In a recent report of Nasscom and the report which is doing rounds in the Mail boxes of everyone is what says that 75 percent engineering students in India are unemployable, education experts said that the Indian higher education system is not giving skill building and practical training equal importance as academics to give them an edge.
And the report said that one of the major reasons why engineers, even from reputed institutes, are not easily employed because they lack hands-on skill.
So what do you think guys,Is it really true that 75% Indian engineering students are Unemployable? Share your thoughts on this.
A teenage student doesnt realize the importance of practical knowledge which is essentially needed along with theoretical knowledge. They think by being the topper in class is enough to declare that they are intelligent. Even parents never ask their children nothing other than MARKS. Solution for this is INDUSTRY-INSTITUTE INTERACTION or STUDENT-WORKING PROFESSIONAL interaction
Secondly The ratio between quality & quantity of faculty available to that of technical sanction given for upcoming institutes. The pay scales are stinking with the same old acts. Finally none interested for teaching post .
Instead of increasing Just no of engineering colleges , govt should also focus more on setting institutes offering specialised courses such as textile , health care, energy studies, leather, gems , astronomy, hospitality & tourism, law etc.
Everything is in hands of PLANNING COMMISION & ministers.
there is difference between unemployed and unemployable. Indian engineers are unemployed but not unemployable. US, Europe, Japan etc's brain is Indian born engineers. We produce highest number of engineers. So, this statement is completely wrong....
As far as my perception goes...not only engineering students but many students other than engineering also feel this heat and this is not so apparent. So I have seen some of the ideas..well some say tht it is due to mushrooming of colleges and some say that it is due to higher education....but what I would say is dont u see it riduculous if there are only 20 colleges for our entire population...then people instead of becoming unemployed they also become uneducated...which is far more dangerous...so what I would say is first of all companies dont know for what they are hiring.....
for eg: If there is some xyz company and if they do business in some pqr then y dont they approach final yr students of engg....use tht time period as thier training period and induce into the work....merely just taking on aptitude basis may not suffice in long run..there might be some good candidates where they can really excel...and they bring up many patients etc etc....
I would say this is the other way looking the half filled glass of water. :)
It is only education that obtained from bookish knowledge might not be sustainable in these industries where skill and creativity is required.On the other hand the management looks for lucrative profit in short time; they dont spare time for searching skillful labours as their remuneration is not affordable at their end due to mismanagement.Rather they seek for low wage labours without planning.They depend upon a master pice who offer to the management for a package of huge profit which sincreate the management and loss her honest, industries and needy workers.
Majority of them are not and it is true. Reasons being the following:
Absolutely pathetic support from Corporates. MNCs coming in India are only looking for cream of talent, very few are bothered to invest in developing the right talent pool in collaboration with the colleges. These MNCs have "Recent Graduates" OR "Fresh Graduate" sections on their career portals meant for other countries. But they dont have similar pages on their Indian site, why? Even if they have it lists a number of colleges where they will visit for Campus and almost everytime these colleges listed are the IITs and the like. Engineers from these are any way going to get good jobs on their own. So what is the difference these MNCs are making to our Human Resource Development. Forget about MNCs, even home grown businesses look almost always for minmium 3-5 yrs experienced people. How many of us have been outrightly said NO by the companies when we went to ask for college project. People are not given projects even if they are ready to work with No Stipend.
Syllabus in Colleges should be crafted after taking advise from industry, but the education department doesnt seem to do that.
You go for any kind of Govt. job, they have a set academic performance requirement. "65% through out, including first and second semesters", the advertisements never misses out on this. But is there no difference between 65 % from say Mumbai University and 65 % from some not-so-good University? You screen out the good candidates even before they could apply. So what message goes to the Students, "By whatever means just bring that first class, whether you understand the subject OR No its just the marks which count." Why will he not study from only exam point of view?
most of the companies are just seeing for experienced people.once they give the opportunity they will have the common knowledge of working in companies & using the knowledge they have studied in engineering
Yes i agree . from collage level ..they tech us old dated courses which is going on from 10 years or more . even some course could not help us in our related field. collage only focus on providing academic knowledge(that only related to studying and thinking) and not technical or practical skills.there only motive to complete there courses and during intrenship..or technical work u have to suffer most. so some modification required.
This is right but problem is not in indian talent and skill but they need expose which is not properly available.Some Engineers employed but they r not in their interested field.Our education system also focus on how much engineer can mugup.It's not focus on practical knowledge as compare to theoratical
Indian Engineers mostly fresher have a problem to set themselves in professional environment.
It's not possible to redesign our Education system whole but if engineers can focus on practical then they will have best.
I am a bit surprised at most of the answers here. Most of the respondents are referring to employment. The issue here is not employment but employability. There is a huge difference between the two. his is what Ms Sarika Singh is trying to highlight.
There could be many people who might be "unemployable", but are "employed".
Industry today is looking for people who are employable and come with the specific skill sets (less technical and more practical) required for them to begin contributing to growth in the shortest possible period of time.
The Nasscom report also spoke of unemployability and not unemployment. We are all aware of the unemployment scene in the country, but how much of this is due to the unemployability factor is the fact that the Nasscom report tries to highlight. The sad part is that graduates and post-graduates from even some of the reputes institutes fail to bag good offers or are burn-out cases in a short period of time due to the lack of these employability skills.
As I have mentioned in my earlier post, this has been recognised by most trainers and now the focus has shifted from general soft skills to training people on employability skills.
It is true that Indian engineering students are unemployed. I'm 2009 passed out (fresher), Still I'm searching for job. Some of my friends are working but they are not in the relevant field. We studied Information Technology but my friends are working in some marketing jobs & so forth. Now I'm undergoing training regarding IT Infrastructure Management. my colleagues are my seniors that is some are 2008, 2006, 2007 or even 2005 passed out engineering students. Right now it is very tough to get placements that too for freshers.
This is true as the universites are preparing the syllabus carelessly and these syllabus is for no use and the practicals are too less By
Shiva Prasad, B.Tech/B.E. student, R.L.J.I.T
| 12 10 2009 14:31:44 +0000
Yes, this is a fact as our education system today lays focus on academics rather than on the practical applications of the theory. This has been found to be true not only of the engineering students, but also with respect to management students. They are found to be lacking in skills that are essentially required to perform (survive?) in today's ever changing corporate scenario.
This has been observed by corporate and has spawned a new category of trainers now specialising in the area of "employability skills".
YES..VERY MUCH TRUE...BUT WHO IS RESPONSIBLE....FEW YRS BEFORE THERE WERE SELECTIVE ENGG COLL...N MOST OF THEM PROVIDED BETTER EDUCATION...HAVING PROFESSORS OF A QUALITY.. BUT NOW DAYS SO MANY ENGG COLLEGES WHICH HAS DECREASED THE QUALITY OF PROFESSORS...AND IT HAS ALSO ALLOWED EVERY CHILD HAVING NO CALLIE, TO ENTER IN ENGG COLLEGES..LATER FAILING TO DELIVER WHT THEY ARE EXPECTED TO DELIVER....THIS HAS LEAD IN INCREASE IN NO. OF % OF FAILURE IN GETTING EMPLOYED..ALSO VERY FEW ENGG COLLEGES PROVIDE THE GROUND EXPERIENCE TO THEIR STUDENTS...WHICH LATER MAKE STUDENTS TO SUFFER...HAVING NO KNOWLEDGE OF WORK..
SO TALKING ALL THESE INTO CONSIDERATION IT CAN BE WELL SAID THAT ITS TRUE...
completely agree with you... i've seen and heard in many collages the lecturers have M.Tech and various degrees but their way of teaching or even their understanding on the subjects are of very low standards.. i guess. i've seen very few people in faculty who have great knowledge of subjects but couldnt find jobs..
i happened to ask few lecturers (around 26-29yrs) who had great knowledge regarding networking about their opportunities in the IT. the response was i am looking for a 50K+ job(as freshers to industry) or i will just continue teaching.
i aagree tht..the kind of infrastructure provided in tech collges is far away from practical skills developmnt and analytical approach towards d motive of learnig technology nd experizing those skills in oneslf....i remebr my collg as a place tht i attnded for only to mke my attndance criteria fullfld...so tht i can sit in my semstr exams...evn we tried lernng those dumb lectures sometme...bt the momnt u raise a doubt u'll fnd a no..or an explnation tht elevate more confusion....so basic need is to replce those self-confused faculties...the reason y those people were thr was tht they weren't gettn jobs in tech field,all they were doing were waitng 4 some opngs.....so governmnt need to tke serios actn agnst the infrastructre....nd honesty mst b expctd 4m d invigilating team....
absolutely this is true.first and the most important reason behind this problem is recession nxt students easily get admissions in engineering colleges.Students are not getting proper practical knowledge.Atlast when they enter in technical world then they realize that still they need to learn a lot.
The students have to be given training for improving the technical skills, Design skills, Communication (oral and writing) skills. For doing this quality faculty is essential. Producing quality faulty is a long term work. The top quality universities in India (IITs, IIITs, NITs, Central Universiities) have to produce more number of PhD holders. For PhD students, a good stipend has to given in oreder to encourage the people to do PHD. Government has to come up with some innovation in this regard.
Universities have to conduct quality refresher programs for upgrading the knowledge of the faculties. Also, all of the self financing engineering colleges have to implement the VI pay commission salary. Mainly, I believe, universities have to take lead role in shaping the fculties of Engineering colleges.
it is true bt it doesnt mean that we r lacking a job in it sector bt this % is bec as we knw today there hav been thousands of collg who r giving engineering educatn the main problem is we r lackng in the quality of education....
We require a massive quality training program for these engineering college students to make them get proper engineering training. For CSE/IT students, IIIT bangalore and IIIT Hyderabad are conducting some training programs. But the coverage is very less. So, we require a massive training program for the students, which can be organized by a combination of Government, NGO, Industry and Private sponsorship.
1. Mushrooming of engineering colleges in all states totalling about 10000 across India. Buildings can be created and where to find so many qualified teachers
2. To fill the seats created the eligibility marks have been lowered year after year by AICTE and State Universities.
3. Students spend very little time in colleges and most of them rush back to homes by college buses by 3 pm. Total working working hours is less than 5 hours per day and there is no time for workshops, library, interactions, and games.
4. Parents pay huge sums as capitation fees to push their kids ahead of meritorious students and expect them to beat the best.
5. Courseware and testing methods are still theory based and Universities which frame the courseware have little weightage on labs and real project work.
6. Focus is to churn out numbers suitable for workers and not engineers who are capable of creative work.
The four years is passed similar to 10+2 years of cramming without understanding. Entire education system needs revamping with emphasis on "Learning" - meaning understanding.
The entire blame for the present situation is to be borne by HRD ministry, UGC, AICTE and State Universities who grant licenses to 1000s of engineering colleges without any real measuring mechanism. Why not even a single engineering college is derecognised for lack of staff and standards?
This year in Anna University Engineering Admission councilling about 30% of top rankers did not turn up!! This demonstrates the sorry state of affliated colleges.
Yes, even I am from one of the colleges where students are taught in a similar manner, even after trying many things to change the scenario but were unable to, we also brought to the notice of these things to the higher officials but nothing happened, we discussed with the corporates many times and the most common thing they said was, in India the focus in most institutes is always on academics and theory than practical knowledge and hands on skills. Thus an engineering student here may actually not know how to change a part of a machine or other practical aspects of engineering. Therefore even if a high scoring student gets placed in a good company, eventually that lack of practical knowledge catches up, and then the organizations should either go for training if the candidate looks promising or else he or she will be simply rejected...
I completely agree with Kavita, but one thing i would like to stress is in India min.2-3 yrs practical work(internship) should be made mandatory for all professional education...medical already has it for some period...before getting graduate degree.
Ya its true that the institutes are not concentrating to provide good practical knowledge compared to theoritical knowledge , and i say that may be 40-50% engineers unemployable.We have good human power but the education system should be changed as well as the man(society) thinking should also be changed, i.e getting marks will not show the students intellectual. By
Hareesh , B.Tech/B.E. student, Jawaharlal Nehru Technological University (JNTU), Hyderabad
| 12 16 2009 07:24:50 +0000
Thats not the case. Engineers are not unemployable. They might have been got more practical knowledge rather than theoretical knowledge. But with environment they can learn and win over rest of the world.
It is not correct to say that 75% of Indian Engineers are unemployable. If this is what the experts and the industry continue to blame the students coming out of Indian professional colleges/universities, then they will have to blame the entire educational system/professional educational curriculam and the corporates themselves and not the young professionals.
It is easy for the corporates in india including mnc companies to comment on the young professionals aspiring for professional job. But what is their contribution in giving adequate opportunities for freshers and provide them the training at corporates costs to fit in to their shoes.
well, whatever you said are the facts. even I agree with this. But this does not support or states that indian engineers are unemployable.. all these things are problems in the education system and implementation...
If you take 10 indian engineers and give them a task, then almost all (or 7 out of 10, worst case) would be completing the task. so they(in fact, we) have the talent and skills. its just that they are restricted or ignored with chances !!!
There could be many many problems in the education system in our country. But still the youth can excel anywhere. They have the talent for that. Its just that, some of them are unemployed. But not unemployable...
Lack of a proper educational system is not mistake of an individual. If a person is talented, he can prove that once the steering given to him. Many famous personalities have reached their heights not because they got a 3-4 year professional degree in same, but because they got a chance in the right time.
As an old story we studied in our english classes, a person put in jail for 10 years became a master knowledge after reading books. That sounds the CHANCE.
After all, HANDS-ON EXPERIENCE begins with an environment. From my personal experience, i had attended Software interviews where i was discarded coz i'm frm Hardware background. And i remember the days i used to teach people from Computer Science background to begin their go in degree. Once they are in, they study in 3 years and become a comparative expert. Probably, i can build myself in 5-6 months, the same thy have achieved. Again ther's the importance of CHANCE.
What matter is not EXPERIENCE, but firms require PRODUCTION from FIRST DAY, they dont have the patience to wait for a development. Has to follow the BIG BILLION companies who give 2-3 months experience prior to joining as full employee..
The main concern is that the people are opening more & more colleges but the government are not making any steps to employ those people. the other main debate is that people don't have exposure as the metropolitants have. There is no doubt there Indians are good workers, But we must admit that we are not good entreperners.
but on the contrary, today the standards of higher studies in india are degrading(not about the IITS,IIMs...). because of the education structure or the faculty. we need to put in more practicality while teaching students and special care should be taken on structuring the course.
i think an engineering student has massive opotunities even today's post recession priod, reason is a technocrat has various options to choose form technical to other fields of jos, yeah a bit i can agree as the desired job opportunities are not existing to that level
Not employable seems to be over stretching the issue... Not employed in India could be a possibility... Employed elsewhere and in India - the number seems to be too big and unbelievable. Not employed in the same profession as the engineering branch that he / she studied in - probable chances.
I don´t think 75% of Engineering students are umemployed. this figure must be wrong. First we have to assertain the actual percentage of unemployed, we have to improve the method or system of identifying the unemployed. Unless we have proper system of measuring unemployed it is very difficult to decide the percentage of unemployed. I feel all the Engineering students will get employed in one way or the other, atleast the get a small pay job if not big pay jobs.
Education policy needs to be changed. We cannot blame the students for this. Still our government institutes are following the old traditional or conventional educational system giving importance to theoretical classes more than the practical classes. Simple example, Diploma holders have more practical knowledge than BTech or BE graduates
No, The Indian Engineers are poineers of world. Now a days more than 50% of Indian students opting for engineering courses, because of their confidence that they can get good job or can make own employement. The unemployable engineers are may be about 25% to 30% due to their strength and caliber or may be other reasons.
I agree that they are not employed but are not unemployable.Some may be cream rest average,even the lowest level are good for something.Since the no. of engineers coming out every year has surpassed no. of univ graduates,the problem has come up.The opportunities are lacking & most colleges dont teach rather sell degrees,without any proper support.In fact they are so mean that they will not refund deposits & hold degree if youdo not pay donation in name of infrastructure grants.
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