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Created by : girija naik, SAP Consultant, Leading IT service provider  | 06 05 2009 12:52:37 +0000
Industry : Human Resources (HR) ConsultingFunctional Area : Performance Management(People Management)
Activity:  559 views;  last activity : 07 06 2010 20:18:09 +0000

Andragogy simulates the employees to a real life situation and they are asked to solve a problem of their own by promoting independency .So employee will be motivated to learn.The Hr dept should consider andragogical concepts while designing the developmental programs for the employee.

 
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Yes very true & it should also include Andragogy with social dimension to it. We should come out of traditional techniques & give importance to social networks, partnerships, collaboration, interaction, and knowledge sharing. In this way we can get feedbacks & groom ourselves well. What do you say?


By Gargi Sinha, Senior Consultant, Hewitt Associates  06 05 2009 14:25:58 +0000
 
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Lets not be limited to either andragogy or pedagogy. Both of them are not utilized in the right fashion. The common misconception is that andragogy is for adults and pedagogy is for children. The swinging opinion deriving out of the intrepretation of learning via experience, where a child is assumed to have lesser experience due to the age factor.

Both these have its own place and the new paradigm would be a system where both are used appropriately. Organizations cannot always afford the cost of the current interpretation of andragogy as conducting such workshops is not cost effective and the desired results are usually seen many months later - which might be what the organization has planned for.

Organizations should adopt and has in most cases adopted this strategy where it is a mix of both classroom kind of teaching - for freshers or for concepts that would require a theoritical knowledge before the employee can put it to practical use. And the workshop mode for its prospective project managers and future leaders where certain skills like that of people management, leadership etc can be imbibed via this method.

A practical training department would be using both these things together effectively. Employees should understand that it is not always feasible to get into the workshop (andragogy) kind of mode without gaining certain theoritical knowledge (pedagogy).

Anyway, this is only the surface. There are many other aspects involved in training than just these stratigies.


By Vijay Bhaskar, COO, Divami Software Private Limited  06 05 2009 19:39:37 +0000
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You are right Girija; the manager must identify and evaluate personnel, operational, organizational, and budgetary priorities. He should initiate and oversee the implementation of effective plans and activities in response to or in anticipation of changing demands. These demands may relate to programs, projects or financial matters, or the needs of personnel, management teams, senior management, clients or the public. Addressing these issues will involve horizontal collaboration, or working with other units or departments at the same level of the organization on related matters, as well as vertical collaboration, to achieve the organization's objectives through exchanges between different levels of the organization. The manager should facilitate partnerships with relevant external organizations and consults with key players within the organization on the future direction of these partnerships. He should ensure that human and financial resources are used effectively and establishes the necessary feedback mechanisms for monitoring activities and costs. Taking into consideration the capabilities and responsibilities of every staff member, I feel the manager should ensure that activities are assigned fairly and optimally. The manager should provide staff with effective guidance and supports their development to promote an environment of continuous learning.


By Shashikant Rajak, Senior Consultant, Technozone consultancy ltd  | 06 13 2009 06:44:49 +0000
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Yes! because it will give the employees a feeling of independency and the motivation of decision making this will help in inculcating in them better decision making and problem solving skills.


By Lakshmi Eyyunni, Manager-Business Value Engineering, Sarvagnya Solutions  | 06 13 2009 05:25:25 +0000
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Andragogy, initially defined as the art and science of helping adults learn.The term currently defines an alternative to pedagogy and refers to learner-focused education for people of all ages.

In the information age, the implications of a move from teacher-centered to learner-centered education are staggering. Postponing or suppressing this move will slow our ability to learn new technology and gain competitive advantage.

Though our grandchildren or great-grandchildren may be free of pedagogic bias, most adults today are not offered that luxury. To succeed, we must unlearn our teacher-reliance.

So I believe Andragogy is a new shift in management learning


By Darshil , CEO/MD/Director, Darshil Cotton Company  | 06 09 2009 09:45:57 +0000
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I agree with you..

We have to move ahead of the taditional methods and adopt the new methods...


By Japan Shah, H.O.D, Oxford School of Management  | 06 08 2009 16:48:21 +0000
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If any one need to be trained and developed, it is highly recommended to get exposed to the real time experience. Therefore Andragogy will sure show the new heights in Training & Development.


By Fazalur Rahman, ManPower Development Specialist (Leadership & Talent Development)  | 06 06 2009 17:39:44 +0000
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yes Its time to move from Pedagogy to Andragogy, here the Learner learns by himself, and he is responsible for his/her own learning and the main thing is there is self evaluation in this form, so Andragogy is the way to go according to me.......


By Nikhil Jain, Senior Consultant, Hewitt Associates  | 06 05 2009 15:00:29 +0000
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So my opinion is that now HR depts. Should  move from PEDAGOGY TO ANDRAGOGY.


By girija naik, SAP Consultant, Leading IT service provider  | 06 05 2009 12:52:37 +0000
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Infact, i agree with your argument in totality. You have beautifully placed the both the methodologies at a moderate stance. 

At this juncture, there are many companies and consultancies still striving to get the right fitment for the jobs vacant with the  companies. In this process, they filter the fitments in search of the best hunt.  Many a times, the companies don't get the right fitment. instead they look for a candidate who comes from a greater exposure but from a different field as a part of their integrity, creativity and ofcourse compromising values, Which is the commonest thing happening in the corporates (Eg., Telecom to Medical, IT to Education, Health to BPO, EPO to Insurance etc.,) today.

Having this done, the jobgainer is a stranger to the culture, application, process, product etc of the company.

Please let me know if i am convincing you to the fact that any individual, irrespective of the field or expertise or seniority, firstly one should go through the child learning process to understand the ABCs of the company, then to the adult learning process to execute, operate and perform.

As a prerequisite, One needs to be mentally prepared to understand, absorb and appreciate the sources provided.

One should not degrade, exploit the training sources being judgemental,  discriminative and dictatorial about the management's decision whether it is pedagogy or andragogy.

Cheers

TEEJAY  


By T Jagan Mohan, Partner/Principal/VP, TRIOELITES  | 10 27 2009 17:10:46 +0000
 
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