Are CA's better than MBA's???

To my opinion both ca $mba have its own value the thing is that  ca attornery power is not given to any other pvt sector that is why ca is more powerful than mba

As a neutral person "Neither CA nor MBA by profession" here is my argument. If you want to save money and make sure you are running business within the ambit of the law and are not wasting capital, CA is what you need. If you want to think outside the box, get the bigger picture, expand, scale etc you need an MBA.

Both are very specialized areas of knowledge and operation one concentrating inward on compliance and numbers (CA) and the other focused outward on the next big thing and numbers (MBA).

cool one...impressed. A quick thought,  to use this story line as a marketing tool to convert all students enrolling for CA to MBA courses. 

If there is a vacancy for CEO of the organisation and a CA and MBA both insider are the candidates in that case the CA will get preference over MBA candidate.

Jyoti one should understand that CA is one perticular subject relating finance but in case of MBA it is all most all the subjects perticularly relating to Marketing inluding finance is being taught so according to me MBA candidate is more aware of the organisational strengths and will decide how to implement the same. Then why a CA is preffered to be a CEO as stated above? It is all about bottom line and nobody understands the bottomline better than the CA of the organisation.

Agree with you dear, its all internal , it cannot be achieved theoritically

A B.Com/M.Com graduate with lots of experience can replace a CA. Except for one thing that a B.Com/M.Com graduate cannot legally be a auditor. Whereas an MBA degree not necessary but a must for anyone who wants to be a 1) Entrepreneur 2) CEO 3) Manager. A CA may need a MBA degree, but a MBA will never need a CA certificate.

It is most amazing story I have ever heard ... Thanks MR Sunil Most mazing story I read today on Web.. I ll be circulating to all my friends

Agreed with your understanding !! Cheers

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However comparison is difficult as a conjugate is necessary for any organization and both are integral part , However as per my exp in Marketing oriented companies it is more suitable MBA as heading of organisation as It is generally seen and observed MBA's are more lively and creative in their approach when it comes to goal setting being innovative and articulate to move ahead , However CA's are noticed to be conservative in above aspects , They are good in saving money and keeping books of account in right direction However MBA,'s are good in bringing money to manage the accounts.

CA are better in understanding the BS and taxation.But in terms of other Areas like HR and Operational and marketing they can"nt be as good as MBA's. Corporate Inc require someone who can steer the ship forward for which MBA is the best choice. For technical issues like taxation CA can do better and CA 's exposure to other functional area's very much restricted.

What tastes better apples or mangos ?

Both are juicy fruits, sweet, feeling etc. etc...

But still the comparison is not correct. The CLASS is different. 

MBA includes, marketing, sales, finances, prodution etc etc... but actually doesn't include accounting stuff. The MBA in finance includes the elementary knowledge of taxation, laws and accounting. But the real purpose of MBA is to create, manage and run business. CA's are all about accounting, company rules and law etc. Both are important. 

Have you seen any company run by CA ? The answer is "NO", its because it's not their business. 

Now coming to curriculum  part, as said earlier

MBA includes basic knowledge of many subjects

and CA includes deep knowledge of particular subjects. 

The debate topic is not relevant hence I opt against it. But this doesn't mean the CA's or MBA's are superior to any.

CA's are definitely intelligent and harworking and very few are able to make it and have hands on apprenticeship experience in going through the intricacies of finace, taxation, accounting, company law etc. but their training seems to be more of the book-keeping type playing a specialist role in the given domain supportive of commercial aspects of business like costing, taxation, profit and loss, balance sheet preparation, audit, etc. the knowledge gained is more through self-study supported by contact classes and practical work.

MBAs from superior institutes like the IIMs with engineering/science backgrounds again the select few have a holistic view of business operations and business strategy inclusive of marketing, finance, hr, operations management, systems management, etc and are trained to be CEOs as team leaders and corporate planners able to integrate expertise and provide global leadership and direction for strategic business success. MBAs look at concept and strategy and strategic analysis and communication with holistic leaderhship skills.

MBA degrees have become too prolific with too many business schools alike commerce colleges the commerce faculty teaching the students many a times; doling out the degrees with inadequate faculty resources and admitting students on fee basis rather than wholly on national merit - the product a shade better than a MCom/BBA student able to play bottom executive support roles needed in large enterprises providing analytical or sales support. to that extent i would guess an average CA with his hardwork and domain expertise gained through vigorous training and aptitude would be better than an average MBA from a common b-school these days,

 the CA is able to quickly able to play an advisory role with the top management in medium scale enterprises. CA would soon be in the top management leadership executive team while only MBAs from national level B-Schools like the IIMs and a few others would be in that cadre.

how if CA/MBA colleges are integrated sharing the ethos and the expertise churning out more valued added products and services in terms of human capital with a equitable pedagogy. we can then probably end this debate.

regards/kshantaram

Hi .. what a bebate ... !!

Who  is not a CA nor a MBA, may be regarded as the best individual to answer this. One may not be biased to judge. But ... what for this debate ?

Both the CAs and MBAs have their respective fields. A MBA may be from varied fields, e.g. an Engineer may be a MBA or a Doctor may have this degreee. CAs have their own field of expartise.

Cos may hire any of them or both as per their requirements.

I agree with Mr trivendar, Both are different fields, and even the applications of the two field differ, and finally at job it is not MBA v/s CA, its who has basics right, who can apply those basics properly , who can adopt well to changing needs, who can keep on learning  and as a matter of fact it could be a person with any background not necessary an MBA or a CA. Financial Know-how and communication skills are not the only parameters to judge, there has to be much more than this

I agree with Rahul's Argument that CAs are hard workers no doubt but MBAs are smart workers.

You are trying to compare two different roles. It is like comparison between a surgeon who operates on live patients and a surgeon who performs a post-mortem.  The role of MBAs is that of the surgeon who operates on live patients resulting in the saving of the patient.  The role of CAs is basically that of a surgeon who performs post-mortem to find out the causes of failure of the operation/death of the patients.  They try to find out the reasons for the financial lapses, shortfalls and so on. 

Just one article in ET and there is theory to prove that CAs are better.

Is there any person who can prove that CAs are better than MBA in over-all value creation and business growth?   

Every body is behind MBA degree to prove them that they are not superior .....So what is the end result ?       JUST OPPOSITE

I would like to recommend people first do a regular programme in Management and then talk . You cannot comment when you are not aware of management educational system.

I would not say that CA's are not good.

But MBA's have smartness to complete a task/work.

CA's are hard workers, MBA's are smart workers..

CA's have all book knowledge, MBA's have good book knowledge with applications(Recho in 3idiot proves only book knowledge doesn't work)

CA's do same audit, B/s every year, MBA's make new strategies every year 

Agree with Nikhil!!

The equation should be; MBA = CA

Reasons: Marketing is concept based and requires a lot of processes to validate the concept and bring it to the edge of being REAL. Processes involve COSTS which MBA's are not essentially good at arriving at but good at guessing it!!

CA's are the root cause of a concept seeing the light of the day as they would provide the basis of the REAL costs that would affect the birth. These two players are extremely important in an organisation and are absolutely equal in their level of competencies and importance.

As a profession, MBA's have a more lucrative career prospect than the CA's as the involvement of these marketing guys involves a universe which has the incredulity of being limitless,whereas the CA's are stuck with cold facts and numbers that can drive everybody around them CRAZY!! No comparision in these people :))

What a silly debate is this. People are just making some subjects simply for posting as debates. What will be our next debate? Is IAS is better than IPS or Engineering is better than Medicine? We need both CA and MBA peoples in our contry both have their own value at least for the time being.

Let us not mix up two issues as their roles are different in the industry, if we look at it holistically. A CA has more to get the finances organised for a business and an MBA is more to carry out the business with the finances allotted.

Both are professionals in their field.No doubt the bottom line is revenue generation .Either it is done by cost control and cost cutting by a CA or the business to generate revenue through leveraging the skills of the MBA in solving the jugglery of all the finances that are utilised for a business and that is allotted.

The MBA 's job is more holistic to the whole business as a whole and a CA helps the MBA in his achievement of the business goals together.

If both think they are running the business then the business is as good as having left to cats and dogs who try to feel more bossy and leave the main aim of business to the fore.

This topic is just aligning to the promoters who would like to push hard the CA to stop spending and the MBA to work under more pressure with limited money.

It's like a parallel line that would not meet any where.This policy of recruiting Vis-a-vis the CA and MBA is on the wrong line of thought for any pragmatic business leader or a promoter.

Business is unique and all the elements in it; the CA, the MBA, the operations, the marketing and all support staff directly or indirectly involved can create a havoc in business thought.hence debating on this subject will never lead to any decision.

Regards

Major M Rajendran(Retd)

this is meaningless debate,because both fields are different and both are very good in own field so that,s not any comparison between C.A. & M.B.A.

and please stop this type of meaningless deabate.this debate like male is good or female is good.

I am not being diplomatic at all, both are good in theor respectiv efeild

I am presently reporting a to CA with 15 yrs experience, but the best part is he still maintains and reads a lot of MBA articles

Well i strongly disagree with the statement since CAs do not possess the proper communication skills which are an added advantage to MBAs. Being just knowledgable is not sufficient to be a leader. To be the best, u have to excel in every area. By just gaining knowledge, if you don't have the right attitude to deal with people, you can't be the best. In today's scenario, Communication skills and Practical attitude while dealing with people matters a lot but it seems CAs have the knowledge part but they are not ready enough to flex themselves in other areas also.While MBAs have the added advantage of knowledge in diverse matters and they are not confined to a single area of expertise. They have good communication skills, better ability to plan, strategise and execute. Along with that their curriculum is more of case study based which helps them in dealing with real life situations. They have much better communication skills and the right attitude to deal with people.

It's a very silly argument that, I have to answer all the way to prove that MBA's are far better than C.A's. In today's environment, major student's gor for MBA.They dont even think for CA. MBA is such a professional degree, it's change the persons entire mode....what a personality it build in a corporate world. They have all the exposure in the Industry and they can be part of any industry in any segment...whereas C.A's job is just a monotonus....I dont think that, in which way they are fit for decision making....

SO, I truely against for this argument and I always support that, MBA's are always on TOP of the world.

I don't think that two people with different sets of qualifications can be compared; both are important to any organization where they have their role to play.

Moreover it also depends upon person to person,,different people apart from formal qualifications possess varied skill set/command over subject or like that so its very difficult to say who's better than who.

I am saying 'no' because the answer to the question is heavily dependent on the prevalent economic and financial climate. Also to say that CAs are better decision makers than MBAs poses the question - what decision making, Sir?