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Created by : Sujit Sood, :-)  | 06 24 2010 00:16:18 +0000
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In all these years of my work experience, i have seen both like corporates being democratic and the way opposite of it, though people like a democratic workplace, but where things are bit strict and where employee policies are strict one gets more productivity, but may fall flat interms of employee satisfaction, and the boss always wants results and nothing else. So, there is nothing like corporates are democratic today, for the matter of fact there are very few corporate organizations which are democratic, and others pretty much opposite of it.


By Nikhil Jain, Senior Consultant, Hewitt Associates  06 25 2010 07:52:18 +0000
 
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yes grow together is the motto not sole profits almost all employees are happy and content
By Aparna.Ranjit , advocate, warrier company  | 03 15 2011 11:00:19 +0000
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Dear Mr K Narayan. Please see in 2G Scam all Reliance & Tata & Some Other Corporate are in a tainted Position.Which is contrary to your earlier Belief.Please open your Eyes.Corporates are not Democratic.But i will say that So many Corporates/ politician/Top Burocrats and Ordinary Citizens are honest in India.


By Suraj Sinha, Propritor, SRS Structure  | 01 06 2011 18:51:03 +0000
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"Power to the people"

Well only power we have is electricity, and even that is not in sufficient amount.

Corporate world has only one objective profit. Corporates can support democracy but not practice it. In reality democracy lies only on paper.

So how can one be democratic

 


By Sama Asif, BD Manager, infonet softech  | 07 15 2010 08:17:32 +0000
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no but india is "" as they say democratic !!
By Ajay Ziz, Dy. Registrar,, University of Jammu  | 07 15 2010 06:27:12 +0000
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Unfortuanately not.. in a dog eating dog environment, just making profits is the only goal .. and team members are waiting to put the other colleagues down at every given opportunity
By Apeksha , IT/Technical Editor,  | 07 06 2010 06:44:44 +0000
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Dear Mr Narayan,

I did not say that Undemocratic means Corrupt.
What i say is Corporate works for Profit.It is the only principle it adapts.
Corporate of any company is not a single person.It consists of the top level
Management ,Middle level Management & Jnior Management.So many variables are
there which can happen at any level.


By Suraj Sinha, Propritor, SRS Structure  | 07 05 2010 20:19:08 +0000
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Sorry if i misunderstand your question, but how come corporates be ever democratic, when they are owned by either single person or say a small group of people only. The employees generally never have any control on the polices and rules of a company. Even I never experienced, managers or higher designations are ever distributed by taking employee opinion .

In any case, being a private property,  it is  very obvious, that the profit distribution or designations are totally based on percentage of partnership, family, relations and particularly in Indian scenario, also depends upon his/her caste.


By Vishwas , -, --  | 07 04 2010 13:19:15 +0000
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What is meant by democratic ? We cannot expect a company to give promotions, recruitments and postings through elections. Also we cannot expect to have an assembly in a corporate consisting of ruling and opposition employees. True, but in some cases important decisions are collective, means suggestion and recommendations flows from one work-flow to other.
By Biswajit Sarma, Project Manager - Construction of Raddison 5 Star Hotel, DS Group  | 07 02 2010 11:39:52 +0000
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Corporate are mirror of our Society.In principle corporate is democratic as Politics.But In actual it is not , & governed by internal Politics of the Organisation. 


By Suraj Sinha, Propritor, SRS Structure  | 07 01 2010 19:10:07 +0000
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Thanks Sujit to have invited mi to this discussion.

Corporates, as quite every other enterprise (with possiby exclusion of NGOs or companies where employees own all the capital, etc) are not democratic in itself. You don't elect the people who "govern" the organization.

Any case, "nothing is written for ever on the rocks". The democracy issue, started some century ago regarding political rights, then involved civil rights and, from the XIX century, it involve social rights.

How, if any, have a greater level of democracy (and what does't means in practice, what kind of participation is possible..) in the work place (private or public) still is under discussion/ experimentation


By domenico fama, HR Business Parner, international Bank  | 06 27 2010 08:59:41 +0000
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                 Many corporations are now global,

                     but governments are national

And thus many corporations are out of the jurisdiction of any governing body.

So the governments are becoming weaker than global corporations.

In this case, then we may need to transform corporations into democracies and provide democratic rights and freedoms to all their stakeholders. I wonder how this could be made to work on a practical level.

Perhaps the way this could be done would be to

  1. To Give employees voting shares proportional to the percent of annual income represented by their annual wage, or better yet, in proportion to the number of hours they work for the corporation
  2. To Open up more decisions to the voters -- not just board appointments and so forth, but perhaps increasing numbers of corporate decisions.

Ideally the corporation could run as democratically as possible on an internal level. i.e. "internally democratic."

 

  1. The next step can be to issue voting shares to communities in which the corporation does business -- whether it has a store there or a factory there for example -- in proportion to the amount of business done in that community.

Perhaps voting shares could also be offered to customers too, in proportion to how much they buy. As voting shares were issued to stakeholder who were not receiving money from the corporation but were somehow affected by its work it would become "externally democratic".


By Divya Priya, K., Lecturer, Nehru Group of Institutions  | 06 26 2010 11:37:24 +0000
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Construction companies are democratic, usually the decisions are collective.
By Biswajit Sarma, Project Manager - Construction of Raddison 5 Star Hotel, DS Group  | 06 26 2010 05:23:54 +0000
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Corporates can never be democratic. These are always capitalistic even in democratic or communist set up of any country.


By PS Dhingra, CEO & Vigilance & Transformation Management Consultant, Dhingra Group of Management & Educational Consultants  | 06 25 2010 13:57:58 +0000
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Corporates have their leaders thrown upon from above arbitrarily, they do not graduate up from the lowest rung, through process and experience. It is easy to lord it over others but extremely challenging to become a natural leader thru excelling. In this day in industry, "it is the boss who chooses you and you do not choose your boss democratically" this organizational structure is bound to fail to deliver us off the general crisis we are in. It is not a particular crisis, it is general and it needs a general and therefore political and strategic solution. Producing teams need to elect their leaders in reverse order upwards and thereby comprehend the entire process and culture of production and service.
By Soumitra Bose, VP - enterprise solutions, Ideationts  | 06 25 2010 10:12:16 +0000
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Not at all. These have set rules for governance. Only changes that benefit the management would be effected.


By Ajay Chaudhari, Chief Executive Officer, Adroit Consultants  | 06 24 2010 02:09:37 +0000
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Corporates the way I have seen in my 11 yr long career are neither democratic nor autocratic. There is a totally unassigned way of governance for a corporate. Wonder if it was applied to a country what would be the outcome.
By Sujit Sood, :-)  | 06 24 2010 00:16:18 +0000
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If the country is democratic,the corporates cannot be otherwise. A truely democratic country would influence the corporates to be democratic and responsive to the environment in which they t operate. All the labour  statutes we have in India are outcome of its democratic polity.


By P.THOMAS RAJAN, Head of the Department, Steel Authority of India  | 07 15 2010 06:03:01 +0000
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Dear Mr. Sinha ,

Every company , and even a country should have a vision ; Hitler had a vision for Germany , Lee Kuan Yew had a vision for Singapore.

The method of governing , whether it is a country or a company , is the means to achieve that vision ; you can have a democratic company and still make huge profits.

Having profit making as your vision does not mean that you cannot be democratic in running the company. Nor does having a hierarchical organization prevent you from being democratic.

A family consisting of grand-parents , parents and children is obviously hierarchical , but it can still be democratic.

 


By K. NARAYAN, None, None  | 07 06 2010 02:48:30 +0000
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Dear Mr. Sinha ,

Corporates need not be a mirror of society , since they are run by individuals.

We can say some countries are corrupt , some countries are unsafe and so on , but that does not mean that all individuals in the corrupt country are corrupt or that all indidivuals in the unsafe country are thieves or muggers.

When Dhirubhai Ambani started Reliance , it was his philosophy that he implemented within the company ; if he was a corrupt individual , then the company would also be corrupt ; if he was ethical , the company would also be ethical.

Today , even when the company has thousands of employees , it is still run by a small number of people ; if these people believe in democracy , its freedom , and its possibilities , then the company culture will also be likewise.

 


By K. NARAYAN, None, None  | 07 02 2010 02:40:13 +0000
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it depends on your organization, My current co is 100% democratic- Vodafone UK,

MOSTLY MNC's are FAR demo.. Than ASIAN or CO's owned By Asians.


By Abhishek Gupta, Director , Skills Factory  | 06 27 2010 10:49:32 +0000
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The best ones are.

Corporate governance can adopt any model that management feels will be the best for their growth - socialistic , democratic , dictatorial ,...

But just as countries which are democratic are more in number than countries which are socialistic or dictatorial , so also companies which are democratic may be more in number.

Since companies are more dependent on individuals than countries , it is more likely that companies will be democratic. Of course , in the corporate setup , democratic need not mean rule by the people ; but it will certainly mean a greater freedom to the individual. Again freedom is not the same as licence ; there will be a full freedom to think and to speak; probably a lesser amount of freedom to decide and act , since a company has levels of responsibility and authority. Employees at a senior level will have more responsibility and authority than those at a junior level.

 


By K. NARAYAN, None, None  | 06 24 2010 04:29:58 +0000
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It does not matter whether Corporate/s are "Democratic" or not so long they may deliver goods to their stakeholders.

If not democratic, Corporates should be :

-- transparent enough

-- pre-determined policy to follow

-- shows sympathy/ apathy to the larger world and contribute for its welfare directly or indirectly


By ASOKE KUSARI, Domestic Private Banking-Executive/Manager, A large leading PSU Bank - India  | 06 24 2010 03:11:48 +0000
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