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Created by : Kriti Das, HR Manager, ANZ Information Technology  | 02 08 2010 10:29:47 +0000
Industry : Human Resources (HR) ConsultingFunctional Area : Performance Management(People Management)
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The India of IT outsourcing and global business, with its corollary of slickly dressed executives in fancy offices, is rarely associated with the other, less-savoury India of caste and gender prejudice. Still, according to a recent survey by London-headquartered outsourcing advisory firm Quantum Step, in continental Europe, the latter impacts on the perception of the former.

The complains which were registered from European companies were, Indians are “awkward” towards women, they don't know how to handle business deals over drinks and dinner,Indians were perceived to behave towards their European clients and towards their own Indian subordinates,they displayed a reluctance to disagree, a tendency to over-commit and a lack of transparency in sharing information and Indians working onshore in Europe made little attempt to integrate with local employees, preferring instead to socialise and live with other Indians.

So users, do you think Indians are over committed to their jobs?

 
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I believe yes. Indian and European work cultures have hell and heaven difference. So, it is obvious that they won't be showing European work behavious right at the beginning rather will take time to learn. Indians are commited to their jobs and because of this honesty, our workers are gaining name and fame across the globe today.


By Kriti Das, HR Manager, ANZ Information Technology  02 08 2010 10:29:47 +0000
 
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I do not use word, commited, because committed means more workaholic, beacuse as said, definitely Japan & Chinese people are more commiited than any one else. I can say, indians are less professional, they do not understand their boundries, theu use emotions even in work place. Commiiment should be towards the job with link to output. If the compare the productivity, we people are far behind.

A new survey conducted by outsourcing advisory firm Quantum Step reveals that in Continental Europe, India's attitude towards caste and gender issues impact India's position as a global business center.Indians not so good attitude towards their peer Indians, that's because Indians self valuation is very low, not to be blames individually.Historically we are in a growing phase as a country, slowly this will get fixed over time.

When we talk about IT industry, it some how true, that we are more committed towards job. Overall, there is a big change is required in the process to identify, provide more focus & solution, for this problem.


By Ameet Ranjan, Regional HR - North India, Maclellan Integrated Services India Pvt Ltd  02 10 2010 08:42:28 +0000
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Yes, Indians are more committed towards their work as compared to their european counterparts. But the sad part is that they do it at the cost of their social life.


By Prashant Kumar, Senior Software Engineer, Marlabs software Pvt Ltd  | 03 04 2010 20:42:14 +0000
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Yes.

In abroad, they have shown tremendous committment to their work. As a result they are rewarded and upgraded for higher posts. They all have learmed the principle of hard work

On analysing of behaviour of europeans and rich country citizens, it was found that great majorty follows some basic priciples like

Ethics, integrity, responsibility, respect towards law and rules, work loving, punctuality, will for super action. And the indians who are staying with them follows the same principle over and above their natural intelligence and creativity. Altogether they are committed and therefore successful.

No. The resident indians are not committed to their work and are fun loving, lazy. They are always in search of quick and free money. Countries llike australia and newzealand who have 150 years of history has added name in developed country. But India has more than 2000 years golden history are still dragging with some basic problems like education and health. If we would have shown the committment then we would have some where else today.

But still there is hope.


By Syed Fareh-uz Zaman, Causal Research Team Leader, Brooke-India  | 02 12 2010 07:06:48 +0000
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as due to the strong determination and   hard  working habbits indians are more comitted to their job as we know that we are lacking behind the developed countries we always thinks to grow much and try to take benefit from every oppurtunities


By anjani nandan, DR .K.N.MODI .INSTITUTE.OF ENGG AND TECHNOLOGY  | 02 12 2010 06:53:22 +0000
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I think Indians are over-committed to their jobs , because , at least when we are abroad , we have no life outside of our jobs.

A friend of mine , who works with the Mittal group , in Bosnia , speaks of how other Europeans believe in having a great time after office hours , which they observe strictly. Very few Europeans work beyond normal office hours. Whereas , Indians invariably stay in their offices ( whether they work or not ) till 7 or 8 in the evening. Indians have no social life to speak of , whereas Europeans believe in going out to the museums , libraries , ski parks or even to the park for a stroll.

Whether all this makes Indians better at their jobs or not , I have no idea. But I have seen that Indians make a greater effort to know more about their jobs than Europeans / Westerners.

I think all that is mentioned in the survey may be true of the Indians who have gone abroad without adequate preparation. A cousin of mine was so fixated on going to the US ( this was in the 70s ! ) , that even when he was in college , he knew the streets of New York like the back of his hand ! He went there after college , for further studies , and never came back to India.

So it is not true that Indians , in general , do not integrate with foreign societies. Yes , most Indians may be so , but there are always exceptions.


By K. NARAYAN, None, None  | 02 11 2010 09:30:47 +0000
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Dear Mr Rao,

I completely agree on slave mentality as this trait alone prevents us from helping others with an open mind.

Insecurity forever prevents rational thinking, innovation or treading into new territories through research and discoveries. Thus solutions to problems as well come from sifted leftovers of developed world that may not be suitable and are of course outlived.


By Ravindra Sharma, Managing Consultant, CHEF-India  | 02 11 2010 03:21:16 +0000
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In the particular context, Kriti, that your posted article refers to this might be correct. But otherwise, commitment to work is not really a function of nationality. Generally Japanese are considered to be workaholics so they could be more committed to work than us. And compared to Europeans - North Europeans who enjoy lesser working hours and more vacations - Indians in the IT sector might seem to be over-commited.


By Azhar Kazmi, Professor, King Fahd University of Petroleum & Minerals  | 02 09 2010 18:41:44 +0000
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Yes They ae very much committed to their jobs. Not only over committed they give more time, thought and at home also most of time mobile rings.Indians are only one who dont switch off their mobiles and aswer the queries related to their jobs when off duty. This culture is in India only. 


By Farzana Rizvi, Hospitality Professional,  | 02 09 2010 17:10:39 +0000
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Geogriphical,historical and cultural behaveour contained in our genes have made us commited to our job and to some extent we are selfish and inclined to look after our family and also to see secured future not only of ourselves but of our offsprings.i feel our commitment to job is virtue


By NL Kalra, Law Officer, Govt. of India Ministy of Law  | 02 09 2010 13:42:31 +0000
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Yes, I am totally agree with you. Indians are very honest in their job.


By Omkar Kulkarni, Accounts Officer, Minilec(India) Pvt Ltd  | 02 09 2010 13:20:06 +0000
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Our level of commitments to our jobs or our partners and or our lives is way above than any other work force put together


By Atul Joshi, Assistant General Manager-Business Development, Flexican Bellows and Hoses Pvt.Ltd.  | 02 09 2010 13:14:54 +0000
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Yes I think so. Thats why Indians end up as slaves most of the time. This is mainly because of population density. There are 100's of people waiting for every available opportunity up for grabs. This results in at least every Indian showing he is a hard worker and tries to prove that he has all the qualifications and requisite experience, through genuine or fake certificates. But he will slog or make his talentd collegues slog if he is good at it. He will then be called capable leader because he gets things done through such techniques as may be required. He will quit the job and tries to find another guineua pig before it is too late. He succeeds because he now has an aquired qualification through experience. Mya be we still have some real honest people


By K LAXMINARAYANA RAO, Freelancer  | 02 09 2010 12:56:16 +0000
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MR. Kriti : as you have written here the report : " Indians are “awkward” towards women, they don't know how to handle business deals over drinks and dinner,Indians were perceived to behave towards their European clients and towards their own Indian subordinates,they displayed a reluctance to disagree, a tendency to over-commit and a lack of transparency in sharing information and Indians working onshore in Europe made little attempt to integrate with local employees, preferring instead to socialise and live with other Indians." unquote.

Now, where do U see 'over committed to jobs ? All negative aspects of an Indian are recorded here either true or false. Back home in India, barring some rare cases, where do U see commitment to jobs leave alone 'over commitment' ? In fact, we do not know what is commitment towards job, work-place, clients, peers, subordinates, other stake-holders, Boss and finally society at large. Earning a living is not commitment.

Had we been committed, our country would have done more rapid development. Look even to those countries who got freedom at our time or after ours.

True, we are to achieve these as early as possible to be "The Global Leader".


By ASOKE KUSARI, Domestic Private Banking-Executive/Manager, A large leading PSU Bank - India  | 02 13 2010 14:32:06 +0000
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No. We can safely say that Indians aren't overcommitted to their jobs based on the following reasons:

(1) The complaints from the European companies do not prove that Indians are overcommitted to their jobs. (For instance, it is mentioned that European clients feel that Indians have a tendency to overcommit means that Indians are hyping up what they can promise.) So these complaints point out or show the perception of European companies that Indians have neglected a large part/aspect of the client culture.

(2) It seems from other comments Indians are focused on putting in more hours. However, pushing for more hours is not the same as overcommittment.


By Shahnawaz Islam, PR & Media Relations Manager, National Institute of Smart Governance  | 02 10 2010 07:59:46 +0000
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Hardworking & Ambitious -------Yes.

Commitment to making quick money and obtain luxuries. It is selective and tilted for self.  Once comfort zone is achieved, change is noticed.

If it was for cause, reason and progress, we would have had a far better developed India in half the years after independence. 


By Ravindra Sharma, Managing Consultant, CHEF-India  | 02 10 2010 05:41:43 +0000
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Commitment to job is directly proportional to

1.Level of discretionary effort into work

2.A heightened emotional bonding with the concerned organization

If,Indians are committed to their jobs then one point is here;-Why attrition rate,job hopping,stress level ; all these features have been highlighted ?


By Ranjeet Kumar, Policy & Strategy, ******  | 02 10 2010 05:29:25 +0000
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No, i dont think the Indians are over committed to their jobs. In fact we Indians sometime think so forward and weired that foreigner's cant afford to be with us for long. Therefore, rather than to understand us they come out with such statements. But i feel we are just being utilized by them for getting their work done at lower cost. If we can do the same work in our country, believe me we are not far away from one among the Developed countries.... I Swear!! ... Thank you, Manish N

Cheers!!


By Manish N Chugh, Officer Trainee, Stock Holding Corporation of India ltd.,  | 02 09 2010 14:43:17 +0000
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