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Created by : Manoj Pande, Corporate Advisor  | 02 02 2011 08:31:25 +0000
Industry : Human Resources (HR) ConsultingFunctional Area : Organizational Development(People Management)
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In a poor zoo of India , a lion was frustrated as he was offered not more than 1 kg meat a day. The lion thought its prayers were answered when one US Zoo Manager visited the zoo and requested the zoo management to shift the lion to the US Zoo.
The lion was so happy and started thinking of a centrally air-conditioned environment, a goat or two every day and a US Green Card as well.
On its first day after arrival, the lion was offered a big bag, sealed very nicely for breakfast. The lion opened it quickly but was shocked to see that it contained a few bananas. Then the lion thought that may be they cared too much for him as they were worried about his stomach as he had recently shifted from India .
The next day the same thing happened. On the third day again the same food bag of bananas was delivered.
The lion was so furious, it stopped the delivery boy and blasted him, Don't you know I am the lion...king of the Jungle..., what's wrong with your management? What nonsense is this? Why are you delivering bananas to me?'
The delivery boy politely said, 'Sir, I know you are the king of the jungle but... the delivery of food is according to your documents.
What do you mean? The lion roared fiercely.

Did you know that you have been brought here on a monkey's visa!!!

May I have your views please : whether its better to be a Lion in India or a Monkey elsewhere!

 
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Its better to be a lion in India and get respect with limited privileges rather than being troubled around as a monkey with assumed higher status.


By Manoj Pande, Corporate Advisor  02 02 2011 08:31:25 +0000
 
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Its the law of nature that everybody cant be the Lions of the jungle. Agreed that its better to be Lion in India.... But the time you take to become Lion in India many would have left this planet.... Thus its also better to be monkeys when somebody's life, dream and aspirations are on stake.
By ANAND M, Freelancer, Human Resources (HR) Consulting  02 03 2011 09:08:20 +0000
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Try to improve your own jungle and rule as a king, instead of going to other jungle and working as slave!!!!!!!!!
By Bandenawaz , MCA student, The oxford college of engineering, Bangalore  | 04 27 2011 08:57:42 +0000
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lion is king of jungle so its better to be king than other
By Prakash Chandra, M.Sc student, S.G.R.R.I.T.S  | 02 21 2011 15:34:55 +0000
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My suggestion is to put on ones efforts and dedication to become the Lion of his land and dont waste the time by being a monkey in either of the places. Surely you will end up the corruption in India.
By Vijaya Thote, Security Engineer, xyz  | 02 17 2011 12:13:16 +0000
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I don't think that it is a issue for Lions or Monkeys. Believe in India, now there are huge opportunities in India. I don't know we are lions or monkey in India. But still, we are working in our country. We have talent that 's why outsider like Indians. Now they are coming in India for work with Indian professionals...
By Vipin Bhasin, Private Equity/Hedge Fund/VC-Manager, Indian Investment Co.  | 02 06 2011 18:52:32 +0000
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when monkey elsewhere gains the same position as the lion in india then what is bad in becoming monkey elsewhere
By dr stabania roychowdhury, Freelancer, Hospitals  | 02 06 2011 13:23:39 +0000
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I agree with all the lions.....
By PREMRAJ , Freelancer, Event Management  | 02 06 2011 07:29:27 +0000
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A lion is a lion anywhere it will go, and a monkey will remain monkey no matter what it will show.
By S mishra, Senior Consultant, inspired tech  | 02 06 2011 02:10:38 +0000
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In todays newspaper ICT Formerly UDCT is declared as RANK 10 in World by research in Georgia, I think This is enough to stop braindrain from India
By Dr. Nitin Nimkar, Owner, C R Analytical Services  | 02 05 2011 17:51:16 +0000
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what ever it will be our country,will be our country itself. No others will be there for us except our brothers/sisters.Its much bettert to live as a lion in our own country...
By Revathy Venkitesh, Traffic Assistant, Global Aviation & Services Group  | 02 05 2011 16:48:07 +0000
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Be a lion in India? I need help! I don't have even a ration card since 1991, what am I??? A lion, monkey or nothing at all?
By Simon Dannie, Freelancer, Teaching/Education  | 02 05 2011 15:39:47 +0000
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if everybody will become the lion then who will take care for the monkeys
By Dr. Shivani Bhatnagar, as co-ordinator, education  | 02 05 2011 14:37:19 +0000
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Manoj, I support you. I want to be a Lion always...
By Sridhar S, Business Technologist  | 02 05 2011 10:46:34 +0000
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Why to choose abroad, now we have full of resources in all aspects, it is your stuff and guts for your better prospects and how you mold your life. I my self i want to be lion and generate opportunities here in India.
By Yugandhar , Assistent Manager - Cost & General Accounts  | 02 05 2011 05:17:44 +0000
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and old saying " apni gali ka to kutta bhi sher hota he"
By HEMANT VERMA, Marketing and Branding, NAVNEET PUBLICATION INDIA LTD.  | 02 04 2011 15:02:48 +0000
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Yes, however you gotta to have a holistic look, may Indians are Lions elsewhere while their counterparts are monkeys here
By Sanjay Bhardwaj, Partner/Principal/VP, Health Management Solution  | 02 04 2011 07:57:59 +0000
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yes i agree for that,but it also depend on what and how are you managing abroad.If you have good background and enough supporting elements,you can manage as a successful person overseas.
By Seraj Ashraf, M.Pharm student, Manipal University  | 02 04 2011 06:44:09 +0000
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My view can neither fit in Lion or Monkey and so I am posting in both the places.

I am quite upset by the fact that most of the Indians think that everybody who has gone abroad has done so on a wrong visa or has been duped. I do admit that there are cases when persons have been fooled (even after doing adequate homework) and have realised very late that they have been taken for a ride. But believe me, their proportion is small. In case their numbers are very, very large, nobody would prefer to go abroad.

And there is another wrong notion that an expat gets very low respect in the country in which he is employed. I have found that in many cases, the expats gets better treatment in his employed country than back home. He is respected for his talents and is rewarded for his contribution. Is there anything more demeaning than being treated like an outcaste (untouchability and caste discrimination is very, very prevalent in India)?

In case all the expats return to India, can you imagine what will happen? India will become bankrupt within a year. There will be widespread unemployment. People will slip down to poverty overnight (there are many construction workers in Gulf who are sending home Rs.10,000/- per month which is much more than what they can dream to get in India and which supports their entire family). For a person who is unemployed, a chance to go abroad is like a God's gift.

And going by the number of corruption cases we see in India everyday, I think it is better to be in a foreign country. Do you realise that you are selling yourself everytime you are paying bribes? In most of the countries, we do not have to pay bribes. Everything is transparent. See what is happening in Tunisia and Egypt? People are raising their voices against corruption. But in India ..... We talk, talk and talk. And do nothing. We are afraid to raise our voices. Fir bhi Dil Hai Hindustani.

I read a joke about Hosni Mubarak. Mubarak goes to a shop to buy shoes for himself. The shopkeeper recognises Mubarak and tells his assistant to bring size 44. Mubarak is surprised and asks the shopkeeper how he knew his size. The shopkeeper says that his shoes are crushing the people's necks so long that everybody knows his size. If this is applied to India, we will have to know the sizes of hundreds of people - politicians, babus, policemen, businessmen, the list goes on ......

I hope people will try to understand the other side of the story before posting such topics.


By Raju V P, Senior Manager, an International Bank  | 02 03 2011 20:34:45 +0000
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A home is a home.It is always better to be around home than jumping away to other countries and then trying to flee away back when things get bad.Let us remember lion or monkey you will always remain a second rate citizen away from home.In places like America you will never know when you got radio tagged...
By KR BALA, Providing HR Services, Independent HR Consultant  | 02 03 2011 14:26:54 +0000
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a suitable one for the present generation
By sudhakar , BUSINESS CONSULTANT  | 02 03 2011 13:56:54 +0000
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great .....eye opener for many
By Navanath d, vernekar, Project Manager, terranova real estate goa pvt. ltd.  | 02 03 2011 11:51:15 +0000
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Good One.

Wish and hope someone from our policy makers as well reads this as they are forever running out of the way to please, offer all niceties and provision best offers for the monkey money.


By Ravindra Sharma, Managing Consultant, CHEF-India  | 02 03 2011 10:40:04 +0000
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I also support this Idea. Which respect and honour we get from Our India we can never get from other nations. No matter Lion or Monkey, In India we have same respects for all. But it will not be tollerated that our Lions will treat as monkeys in another countries.


By Tanima , First Medical Services Pvt. Ltd.  | 02 03 2011 09:21:38 +0000
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Its a true statement! After seeing the helplessness of our students in USA for no fault of theirs vindicate your statement!
By S. Muralidharan, Executive Director, Knowledge Foundation & Campus Around the Corner  | 02 03 2011 09:12:54 +0000
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I support your statement, because lion always want to live with other lions or lioness, than monkeys.


By SHRIKANT MANOHAR DANKE, Project Manager, Phadnis Infrastructur Ltd  | 02 02 2011 13:51:26 +0000
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People are leaving India in search of better career. But when they are feeling threatened with our presence, the possessive power making them behave differently at us. The caste system is compelling some to go out of India to get good education and better opportunities. The discrimination shall be answered.
By Srinivas suravajhala, Asst. Manager.  | 02 02 2011 11:30:03 +0000
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Its foolish to go elsewhere just for the sake of earning more money and getting high status in the society. Does money is more imporatant than your own family, relatives, friends and your own nation.
By Sridevi Ranganaathan, Assistant Professor at Madras University  | 02 02 2011 10:14:39 +0000
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I do agree with Mr.Manoj,its beteer to be a lion in our own country............
By Revathy Venkitesh, Traffic Assistant, Global Aviation & Services Group  | 02 02 2011 09:52:43 +0000
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MONKEYS ARE ALWAYS WISER THAN LIONS, MAY THAT BE IN INDIA OR ABROAD!

I wonder, a Corporate Adviser uses a totally hypothetical, wrong & misfit example. My earlier observation against one post has proved right that we are receiving most of the useless material on this site.

The question arises, how a lion, when taken himself by a Zoo Manager of USA, could be treated as a monkey. If the US Manager used a monkey's Visa instead of lion's Visa, the Zoo Manager proved himself to be worse than a rat having no used his common sense. Even rat has common sense, but the manager taking the lion with him did not have a common sense of even animals.

Mind it, the lion did not try to emigrate illegally in USA, as was taken by the Zoo Manager of USA, himself by a proper Visa!

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Dear Dr. Sudhakar Rao,

Mind it, the example used by Mr. Pande was not yours to be justified by you!

I wonder, while Manoj Pande, being a corporate adviser, has not used his mind in quoting a US manager having taken a lion on monkey's Visa, you have also tried to advocate his wrong & misfit example in very big and bold letters, as a manager, that too supposedly being a PhD Doctor.

I suppose the Corporate Advisers and Managers must have leadership qualities. But this hypothetical & misfit example by leaders of the industry tries to merely MISLEAD people, rather than enlighten them on any count.

 


By PS Dhingra, CEO & Vigilance & Transformation Management Consultant, Dhingra Group of Management & Educational Consultants  | 02 21 2011 08:37:38 +0000
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The considered illustration is purposefully  selected to be simple enough to make a choice comparatively straightforward and following obviously from the illustration framework because of its unique objective orientation . In practice , however , it is not always the case . The analyst would readily find this out by choosing an effective  urban transportation system for a lot to think over . An intently made slip in the illustration-formulation  brings some spirit of alternative in finding an appropriate invitation to satisfy in the best possible fashion .

An especial attention among the educational disciplines should be devoted to patterns to be preferred to an academic comprehension .Unfortunately ,it is rare occasion in Engineering , Biological or Medical quarters that a specialist has a due perception of sense and spirit . It is infrequent that the illustration is viewed to be a sort of magic wand yielding information from nothing i.e. from total ignorance . Those who think so are under a misapprehension since knowledge development is used but to transform the scared before they are easy and can be mastered by intervening human will from time to time . 

The functions of humans are not taken up by a machine , rather , they shift form a basic level to a more intelligent one .To add more weight to the argument , automation has been developed so that the human may actively interact to aid the judgement of a human .

sd/- Dr.Rojukurthi Sudhakar Rao ,

ex-C.S.I.R Jr. Research Scholar @ANDHRA UNIVERS'.

on my personal home business HP L'TOP 520 MODEL 

7-2-'11,Monday, NIGHT IST 11.11 PM    WESTERN INDIA


By Dr.R.SUDHAKAR RAO, MANAGER --MIDDLE MANAGEMENT GRADE --SCALE II, THE DENA BANK [ @ SERVICE BRANCH , MUMBAI ] A GOVERNMENT OF INDIA ENTERPRIZE & CHAIRMAN , THE NEW JAYDEV COOPERATIVE HOUSING SOCIETY LTD , GANDHINAGAR , DOMBIVLI( EAST) , THANE , MAHARASHTRA STATE .  | 02 07 2011 17:44:23 +0000
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I agree with Manoj, that's because lion went on Monkey visa. If you are a lion, then go with lion visa and you will get what you want. I meant when you compromise yourselves and so desperate to go US zoo, then you will end up with these things.
By Anand Balasubramanian, Deployment Mgr,  | 02 06 2011 04:13:20 +0000
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Its better to be monkey out side for few days so that when you will return to Inda, you will treated like a lion.
By Santosh Kumar Mohanty, Civil Engineer-Municipal, Sambalpur University  | 02 06 2011 00:13:05 +0000
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Well nice humor Mr.Anand, you know there are a lot of Indian lions are in abroad holding very high post and making wonders and India has lost them. Probably they might have thought that " Better to be a king in elsewhere rather than a slave.... in..


By NATTERAJA R. ARIKRISHNAN, GM-Projects, Bentec Electricals & Electronics Pvt. Ltd  | 02 05 2011 18:31:26 +0000
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The moral of the story is we are making lot of mistakes in documentation whether it is for Lion or Monkey or even Politician. 


By Rathin Deb, Freelance Retail Consultant  | 02 04 2011 14:04:51 +0000
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Yes few cases of cheating is always there both in India and abroad. But if one has a talent really many monkeys ahve rulled the lions. turned into lions. We better look at success stories and long for the same instead of demotivating people. Let the cow grass on greener patches.


By Gopala Krishnan.H, CMD, DJA-Inc  | 02 03 2011 23:44:54 +0000
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My view can neither fit in Lion or Monkey and so I am posting in both the places. I am quite upset by the fact that most of the Indians think that everybody who has gone abroad has done so on a wrong visa or has been duped. I do admit that there are cases when persons have been fooled (even after doing adequate homework) and have realised very late that they have been taken for a ride. But believe me, their proportion is small. In case their numbers are very, very large, nobody would prefer to go abroad.

And there is another wrong notion that an expat gets very low respect in the country in which he is employed. I have found that in many cases, the expats gets better treatment in his employed country than back home. He is respected for his talents and is rewarded for his contribution. Is there anything more demeaning than being treated like an outcaste (untouchability and caste discrimination is very, very prevalent in India)?

In case all the expats return to India, can you imagine what will happen? India will become bankrupt within a year. There will be widespread unemployment. People will slip down to poverty overnight (there are many construction workers in Gulf who are sending home Rs.10,000/- per month which is much more than what they can dream to get in India and which supports their entire family). For a person who is unemployed, a chance to go abroad is like a God's gift.

And going by the number of corruption cases we see in India everyday, I think it is better to be in a foreign country. Do you realise that you are selling yourself everytime you are paying bribes? In most of the countries, we do not have to pay bribes. Everything is transparent. See what is happening in Tunisia and Egypt? People are raising their voices against corruption. But in India ..... We talk, talk and talk. And do nothing. We are afraid to raise our voices. Fir bhi Dil Hai Hindustani.

I read a joke about Hosni Mubarak. Mubarak goes to a shop to buy shoes for himself. The shopkeeper recognises Mubarak and tells his assistant to bring size 44. Mubarak is surprised and asks the shopkeeper how he knew his size. The shopkeeper says that his shoes are crushing the people's necks so long that everybody knows his size. If this is applied to India, we will have to know the sizes of hundreds of people - politicians, babus, policemen, businessmen, the list goes on ......

I hope people will try to understand the other side of the story before posting such topics.


By Raju V P, Senior Manager, an International Bank  | 02 03 2011 20:30:07 +0000
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Right man for the right job is the philosophy (ethics) of work. But, in this mundane world , many a time we see Donkeys doing pigs jobs and vice versa. Either in the Corporate world or in the  Family life it does not happen. If a Lion  as a Monkey,can do a better job for global out-look , I welcome it. Being a useless Lion is not meaningful than a useful & deserving Monkey. IT MATTERS WHAT IT DOES, THAN WHAT IT OUT TO BE.

Thanks Anand.


By KALIYAMOORTHY , Oil & Gas Area Coordinator, Undisclosed  | 02 03 2011 14:52:23 +0000
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What about the lions being treated as monkeys and monkeys as lions in India ex. The reservation mania, reservation within reservation, quota within quota and so on
By kanukurthy sudershanrao, Operations Manager, Andhra Bank  | 02 03 2011 13:57:32 +0000
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I liked the title very much...But it is wrong to say in General statement that all those who are working outside India is like the monkey in the story....

 The monkey might have been duped by some Indians who want to be Lions. Otherwise there is so many ways to find out whether it is a monkey visa or Lion visa....

If any can remember there are so many indians who is in the topmost position in so many countries... any way thanks for the debate


By Manoj Kumar, Sr: Manager - QA, ARCHETYPE GROUP, INDIA  | 02 03 2011 12:01:38 +0000
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Compromising after choosing.... is not possible take as challenge and roar again as a lion even time take..... and i would like to convey you that LION IS A LION, where it can be..... I hope that INDIAN TRUE LION CAN PROVE AS LION ANY WHERE.....NEVER COMPROMISE... Thank you....
By srinivas , Asst. Manager/Manager -HR, satyavani projects  | 02 03 2011 11:50:22 +0000
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Only to be go on monkeys visa if even on paper there you are mentioned as lion. Means you get are getting better career and growth prospectus in other country because getting a big name will automatically good money + you economy value is automatically increased when you are evaluated by a MNC in India.
By ZOHAR BATTERYWALA, Relationship Manager, TAJ INVESTMENT  | 02 03 2011 11:10:11 +0000
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Monetary issues force people to look at other pastures beyond India. Nevertheless you may also get due recognition
By Phani Mohan krishna, Head/VP/GM- Purchase/Material Mgmt, ANAGHA DATTA TRADE  | 02 03 2011 11:06:57 +0000
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