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Created by : Shikha Malhotra, Product Development Manager, Reliance Petroleum  | 02 23 2010 13:08:54 +0000
Industry : PowerFunctional Area : Innovation(Strategy & Execution)
Activity:  2175 views;  last activity : 09 09 2010 02:08:27 +0000

Indian born scientist Mr. KR Sridhar founded a new way of generating 'clean & cheap electricity'. This box called as "Bloom Box" can generate power-in- a -box that could eliminate the traditional grid and challenge monopolies.

Fortune 100 companies like Google, Wal-mart, FedEx,eBay...have already installed the box in their campuses.

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Large-sized Bloom Boxes of the kind installed at some Silicon Valley campuses(US) will cost around $ 700,000 to $ 800,000. Sridhar estimates that a Bloom Box for the residential market could be out within a decade for as little as $3,000 to produce electricity 24/7 365 days a year. So the device will cost for $3,000, and once installed we have only to pay for its fuel( Natural gas or Biofuel) every year. So, what do you think users, will this Bloom box be a success? Do share your views on this.

 
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Yes, it would be a success in the Indian market.  We have deficit of resources to produce sufficient power for each & every house in India. Moreover the sources producing majority of power are non-renewable in nature. So this new technology will definitely boost the power supply.


By Shikha Malhotra, Product Development Manager, Reliance Petroleum  02 23 2010 13:10:32 +0000
 
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I have some doubts here, the current bloom boxes which are being used in some of the silicon valley campuses like ebay and google data center, we  have no idea how much fuel it consumes on a regular basis, and the cost of those single box which is the size of a refrigerator is at around $700,000 USD - $800,000 USD and the small boxes which will power residential houses will take another 5-10 years in the making by that time companies like GE & Siemens who are pioneers in these tech space will come up with something much more new, but then after a very long time the whole world is eagerly anticipating this Bloom box which has made many of the green tech experts to sit up and take notice... whether it will be a success or not, we have to wait and watch......


By sumitra dutta, Consultant, XYZ  02 24 2010 06:35:24 +0000
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I think the complete prospect of bloom box is really good as compared to the present system. The first thing and major thing here is Costing, like presently how electricity is reaching home, through these big wires passing every city & state even what we can see when we travel around.  Moreover how it is being produced presently. So here's the big difference we can see in that. And the best part is, the cells can run on a variety of fuels, including traditional fuel, natural gas, biomass gas, landfill gas, and ethanol.

And secondly the talk about the so called big companies like GE & Siemens that they will find a better solution than that, that can be right but not the ultimate end of the technology. It always keep on growing and inventing things. Its like an example of "computer", when it was invented, people should have waited for the laptops to come and then to use it. That can not be happening right! Its like an update to the electricity sector and so we all need to update ourselves like we do in other sectors. We should use the present best solution and not wait for the future to give any solution.

Please refer the following link below to get more info on bloom box.

http://factfiles.wordpress.com/2010/09/09/bloom-box-what-is-it-and-how-does-it-work/


By Siddharth K Arora, Freelance Web & Graphics Design Professional  | 09 09 2010 02:08:26 +0000
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Sure, it will be successful.


By Gouri Shankar Patnaik, GM (QC),  | 03 10 2010 12:35:53 +0000
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Yes it could be a sucess provided the hydrocarbons -- natural gas is available readily. Also the fuel cells required for this box should be available at reasonable cost. As there are more and more concerns for producing cleaner energy, this could certainly catch up more attention. The cost factor for the purchase of the box and its maintenance should also be supportive for the sucess of bloom box


By karthik , Tester, Excelacom Technologies  | 02 25 2010 05:44:49 +0000
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Well in a market like India which is power hungry and any amount of electricity generated would be less and considering market demands we can be sure that this type of energy will find its place in the market.It may not be the cheapest or environment friendly but it surely  would be an alternate to energy from the grid, which a country like India so wants!


By deepak kala, Engineer, Ericsson global india limited  | 02 24 2010 16:49:27 +0000
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Tech entrpreneurship always has nay sayers...This techhas proven itself and only needs many users/supportwers to make financially practical. GIVE IT A CHANCE...GOOGLE is Not Crazy!


By Roger Barry, Open, The Prometheus Network  | 02 24 2010 15:50:53 +0000
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In energy sector every thing may be tried for and one is to welcome what is new.

Whether "Bloom Box" may be successful in India.. may be a bit premature to say. Another concern is that this 'box' is using the traditional fuel. Here in India, we require cost efficient technology .. this may take some more years to develop.

Here, we are becoming a leader in "Nano Technology" - waiting for a 'nano' Bloom Box.


By ASOKE KUSARI, Domestic Private Banking-Executive/Manager, A large leading PSU Bank - India  | 02 24 2010 14:31:49 +0000
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Yes it could be a success.


By Ganta Achuthan Sripathy, Proprietor , Sripathy Consultancy Services  | 02 24 2010 12:09:59 +0000
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After it Everybody Take Relief To Power Cut.


By Mahender Vikram Singh Chauhan, Executive Operation, Infinity Advertising (P) Ltd.  | 02 24 2010 12:03:55 +0000
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BECAUASE THIS WILL BRING BOOM IN ELECTRICITY INDUSTRY AND ALSO GIVE RELIEF FROM POWER CUTS. 


By VIJAY JOHAR, AUDITOR, GOPSONS PAPERS LTD.  | 02 24 2010 09:54:47 +0000
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As they used to teach us in industrial engineering classes: t may take a genius to come up with a great idea and make it once. but it takes an even bigger genius to make it over and over again!

If the idea works that is great! at 3000$ it is still INR 14lacs in india unless a cheaper model can be worked out.

Personally at the rate infrastructure costs are sky rocketing, i hope it is a success.

It should be....we are long over due on break through technologies on the energy front...automotive (inter combustion is more than a century old) and power generation (both fossil fuel and hydro electric generation have gone as far as it ca).


By RAMESH KANDADAI, Principal Consultant, ARM Consultants  | 02 24 2010 08:42:37 +0000
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We should encourage this invention. Specially in a country like us wheer most of teh villages/Towns go without power due to a large scarcity of power resources and huge dependency on hydel/Thermal power.

We need to invent alternative source to support our power generation to meet the requirement.If govt.could subsidise such power then most of the Residential and small acale industries can produce their own power to meet their requirements.

 


By Thammaiah Nanjappa, Manager/Service Delivery, Sify Technologies Limited  | 02 24 2010 07:00:04 +0000
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Hi Kashif, tnx for referral.

Yes it’s a break-through, as U rightly put it, how feasible, it needs to be seen.

 


By Shiuli Mukherji, Head Strategy Plan- , Region SEA  | 02 24 2010 06:14:31 +0000
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It is going to compete with some of the existing technoligies like solar for distributed generation and should not be a feasible option for industrial captive use. Since Solar energy technology is on the maturing path, "bloom box" with its high initial cost and a running cost component may be feasible only if it matures faster and provides a stop gap till solar, Nuclear fusion and some of the other commercial research areas are able to throw up a solution.


By Vinay Mehta, Electrical Engineer-Utility DSCL  | 02 24 2010 03:00:11 +0000
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It looks Feasible as of now, though it needs to tried & tested in Extreme Environments like India. It is a Hope for a Better Future.


By Kashif Billal, Training & Induction Manager, H&M Hennes & Mauritz  | 02 23 2010 13:15:43 +0000
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its will be a choice in renewable energy resources but its worth of having in india due to long route of indian process of adopting sources for Developing it for use

i would like to appreciate the idea; lets wait and watch for it

Hope Electricity department should not charge on use of It; just like they do for Generator User


By rupesh yadav, Presales , SOCOMEC UPS INDIA P LTD  | 09 08 2010 18:22:37 +0000
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Too costly for India & many other nations. There are other means of generating electricity in eco-friendly way which are cheaper.


By Akash , International Marketing Shabro  | 03 16 2010 16:37:02 +0000
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In india the product may face extreme enviroments like  diversified opinions for politics , it will have  to  go raj sabha , lok sabha  high courts ,supreme court. there may 110 quality clearance , if product  is seriously good for residential purposes the electrical boards may face a threat to their monopoly , thus country wide unoin protests......

There were instance where electricity from leafs , from potatoes ,from waste ,from lemon etc......but  all become a flop even though it had been less cost & non polutive energy sources , government never ever gave an insight into its feasibility . And now we have a Bloom box  , which  may be a little too costly  for us . 

 

 


By Raghunath C B, Logistics Executive, AYOKI FABRICON PVT LTD  | 03 11 2010 07:42:21 +0000
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Its not every time a great product survives the market. Bloom Box may be a wonderful product that really suggests some answer to our questions, but is it that cost efficient??? what about the quality and product requirement in India's context. And at the current version what is the target market?? Not India for sure!!!


By Sambit , Project Manager, Azurepower India  | 03 11 2010 05:34:33 +0000
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Its a technology success which can be good option for corporate companies with huge energy requirements, but will that relate to commercial success when it comes to individual users - that will depend a lot on how the ROI is worked out. For individual users Solar could be the best bet which can offer a ROI of 4-6 years depending upon the size of installation.


By Balaji Nagarajan, Sr Manager Marketing Services, Congruent Solutions Private Ltd  | 02 25 2010 06:35:33 +0000
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While 64-cell Bloom Boxes can give an output equivalent to 3000 PV solar panels currently, PV cells hold more promise as the technology for panels, batteries and their affordability is improving so fast. While CO as by-product can adversely affect scope of Bloom Boxes, even Hydrogen Fuel Cells- with their improving efficiencies and with water being the by-product, hold more promise. 


By Vinod M Raveendranath, Managing Partner, AmfiOS Technologies  | 02 25 2010 03:48:12 +0000
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I agree with Paul.


By Ted Green, President, Bikini Computers  | 02 25 2010 03:44:17 +0000
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Fine Sumitra, right from GE to Siemens and to your our very own Mr.Kulkarni it is fairly an expensive setup and of course the usgae of the same in the long run...For the moment I dont think hydro, thermal & solar based electricity has any substitute...


By Wayne-Russell Macedo, Procurement & Logistics, Dana Group, Lagos  | 02 25 2010 03:37:12 +0000
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Any power production with fossil fuels will no longer be attractive as renewable power or nuclear power will be more attractive and reduce global warming


By Murali K Balla, Technical Support Manager Atkins  | 02 24 2010 13:46:46 +0000
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Again the bloom box need natural gas or biofuel which will further contaminate the environment.

My dream is a small power generation unit of the size of a washing machine which can generte around 50 to 100 kva electricity.   The input shall be water split into Hydrogen and Oxygen and rendered with nuclear fission to generate enough heat that is convereted into electrical energy. The machine and technology shall be safe and non-polluting, the cost shall be like that of a small car.


By Abraham Paul, Senior Telecom Consultant, FCOMNET- Future Groups  | 02 24 2010 11:24:44 +0000
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As said by praveen varma our country is a cost based.I think with that huge amount of inital investment the residential complexes may not prefer that much.As we know that the solar power which is a natural source and no requirement of fuel are not been utilized. 


By Yellapragada anand krishna naga bhushana rao, Mechanical Engineer-Other, KVK Energy & Infra structure  | 02 24 2010 09:42:37 +0000
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Fortune 100 companies like Google, Wal-mart, FedEx,eBay...have already installed the box in their campuses.... for TESTING. the emissions these boxes put out is a huge NONO, so there is still allot of work that needs to be done. I will not condone or bless this concept, since its really too early to tell. In its current stage, the answer is NO.


By Ted Green, President, Bikini Computers  | 02 24 2010 09:09:18 +0000
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The concept is good and is definitely a innovation.  The question we have to ask ourselves - Can this light up >50,000 villages in India that lack basic access to light (and water)?  the roadmap of USD3000 for each is also going to be expensive.

Are these Bloom Boxes ready for mass production and installation? 

For a country like India, my bet is still on solar photovoltaics.  A stand-alone PV system can power up a house for <Rs.30,000, with CFL lamps.  If designed properly, 3 days of autonomy can be met.  Using super-flux LEDs can improve the system back-up time providing good brightness.

-Kiran

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By Kiran M R, Head of Product Data Development, element14  | 02 24 2010 08:09:43 +0000
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I agree with sumitra. We need to wait n watch and i think at residential level this will not be cost effective. Instead of this setup, people always like to install the solar panel which cost less than this new source which doesn't require any fuel.


By Imran Momin, Software Developer, Aloha Technology Pvt. Ltd.  | 02 24 2010 07:37:54 +0000
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With capital investment of 3000 USD along with recurring fuel cost, I dont think it is going to be a success in India. Our country population is very cost sensitive and for the same reason you can see all the JUGAD at various places. In the Diesel Generator set market also, I wish to inform you that a large part of the market share is owned by local made DG Set as these DG Sets are cheap.

Secondly as mentioned in the post that Natural gas / bio fuel will be required to operate the box. So availability of these fuels will be another issues.

To my mind it is not going to be successful in India but the story may be different in other countries.

Regards

Praveen


By Praveen varma, Sr Manager, Reliance Industries  | 02 23 2010 13:32:55 +0000
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