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Created by : Abhijeet Kadian, Sales/BD Manager, Bharat Heavy Electricals  | 09 07 2009 10:44:01 +0000
Industry : Industrial Products/Heavy MachineryFunctional Area : Business Processes(Operations)
Activity:  796 views;  last activity : 07 06 2010 20:18:09 +0000

Usually in industries during the time of product development, the product engineers define and validate product assemblies and components, and generate bills of material (BOMs) for the various product configurations. And the manufacturing engineers define and validate the assembly processes, fixtures and tools required for assembling the product, along with plant designs and material distribution plans. So will the industries gain by doing these two process parllelly?

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Yes the product development and manufacturing will work together, product development Is nothing but to developing our design to manufacturing a product,

With manufacturing abilities , so obviously we should depend on manufacturing while developing the product. Then only we came to know which are all things is possible and not possible to made our product,

 My final conclusion is both will work together, there is no doubt on that.

 This is my first command on this site, so please forgive me if any mistakes are there.

 Thank you..


By Loganathan.M , Design Engineer, Harita tvs technologies  09 09 2009 10:51:58 +0000
 
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PRODUCT DEVELOPMENT IS THE PROCESS OF R&D WHO TAKES EVERY THING INTO COSIDERATION ITS CONCEPT , BUYER SEGMENT , FEATURES , TECHNOLOGY , RELAIBILITY , COST , PROCESS & MANUFACTURABILITY  ALL THIS HAS BEEN DONE WITH CFT ( CROSS FUNCTIONAL TEAMS ) FROM ALL AREA'S AND ONLY AFTER ALL VALIDATIONS AT R&D AND ONCE THE PRODUCT IS DEVELOPED IT IS OFFERED TO MANUFACTURING . NOW MANUFACTURING IS TO SET THE PROCESS AS VALIDATED BY R&D AND START THE MASS PRODUCTION , OFTEN THIS HAS BEEN OBSERVERVED THAT THE QUALITY DETORIATES WITH VOLUME , SINCE MANUFACTURING ADOPTS SHORTCUTS OR SOME TIME SKIP THE PROCESS TO SPEED UP VOLUMES . IF PRODUCT DEVELOPEMNT & MANUFACTURING IS DONE BY ONE GROUP TOGETHER , THEY WILL ALWAYS PREFER TO DEVELOP THE PRODUCT TO KEEP PROCESS FOR HIGH VOLUME , AVOID CHANGES , AVOID TO ADOPT NEW TECHNOLOGY SINCE MANUFACTURING BENCH MARK IS VOLUME ONLY AND PREFERANCE WILL BE SIMILAR PRODUCT AGAIN & AGAIN


By Bimal kant Gupta, AGM R&D HOD PARTS APPROVALS, Hero Honda  09 11 2009 11:47:46 +0000
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YES ... it can be and it is being carried out through 'suggestion scheme', 'quality circle'

and regular follow up with trial run and implementation.


By Manoj Krishna Sanyal, Head/VP/GM-Production/Manufacturing, Retired  | 09 24 2009 04:22:05 +0000
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"Change alone permenant" This is the best quote suitable for any kind of development process.

More frequent changes are common during product development process. These of the changes due to marketing input, management decision, technical non fesibility in terms of Tooling, part manufacturing & Assy.This is a main challenge in this process.

communication will play major role in case. we can easlily over come this issue, if we keep proper change track record & well accessable data management during the life cycle of Product development,

First We have to form the cross functional team with all dept. repersentative who influnce the product devlopment process, define the clear roles & responsibilities of each member of team, create proper communication flow chart between each process. If any information comunicated in proper way will avoid conflict.


By SGGP , bd  | 09 23 2009 09:40:38 +0000
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Product Design & Development will contribute more than 90% of the End Product Quality & Cost.

During time the product development team should work with manufacturing engineers to finalize the parts manufacturing process with optimal target cost.

It will helpfull to make '0' defect produt to market, reduce lead time for rework the tools & Die, cost of rework in product assembly line , service cost and Improve the Brand image for High quality product at low cost. 

Product & Process Benchmarking will also help a lot in this process. In the competation in present maket situation in the world every manufactures should release new product with low cost with less lead time.

It is possible If we involve manufacturing engineers from the early stage of product development process to settle with proven Low cost MFG process during part design stage. Otherwise Development team will face Big messup with MFG during Release of documents for part manufacturing.Both should work together like family.


By SGGP , bd  | 09 23 2009 08:01:43 +0000
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Though product development and manufacturing are distinct, collaboration between these two in early phases helps come up with a solid product and faster time to market.


By Amit Khan, AGM, mjunction services ltd  | 09 15 2009 09:02:57 +0000
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Nowadays, the product design is regarded more as a verb than a noun ( as book definitions suggest ). As a verb, "to design" refers to the process of originating and developing a plan for a product, structure, system, or component by people ( referred to as Designers ) with intention to serve people ( end users ) .

In its new avatar as now most commonly phrased as “ New Product Development (NPD)”  is the term used to describe the complete process of bringing a new product or service to market. Now a days, within the overall ambit of product life cycle management (PLCM) companies typically see new product development as the first stage in generating and commercializing new products. This is used to maintain or continually grow their market share.

There are two parallel paths involved in the NPD process: one involves the idea generation, product design, and detail engineering; the other involves market research and market analysis. The Idea of “Tata Nano” evolved by positioning it as a “People’s car” after extensive market research for capturing needs and identification of the market segment which was served as design input to the product designers of the company , who simultaneously passed thru concept development to Detailed Design by capturing changing needs dynamically thru back and forth reviews with the marketers , developers, Purchasers , Suppliers in the project team( also sometimes referred to as "Cross Functional Team-CFT" or "Multidisciplinary Team-MDT" ) to launch a final product. The process commonly known as “ Concurrent Engineering”  involved rigorous design practices and design tools while passing thru various stages of its Design and Development with in shortest possible time. 


By Madhukar Sharma, National Head, ASME  | 09 15 2009 08:32:18 +0000
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Yes.

That's the reason why APQP model is used in automotive field.

That's also the activity so called DFx is used in so many field.

With appropiate feed back and development, there will be able to robust conceptual design with robust manufacturingability. Although the cross functional team will be such big that can cause a lot of communication and information back and forth, however, it's worth to do so.


By Boonserm Hongtippayachat, Engineering, Visteon (Thailand) Ltd  | 09 13 2009 04:35:52 +0000
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Yes,Both must be there.If one is not present other will not exists


By Sriram , Engineer- Projects & Services, AVL India P Ltd  | 09 10 2009 14:17:22 +0000
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yes


By vinoth kanna, service, nesapakkam sewage treatment p[lant  | 09 08 2009 15:03:54 +0000
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During early times of industrialistion what was being manufactured was sold. Like the MODEL T's. Mr ford was happy to sell all the colours till the time they were all BLACK. But this has undergone a shift. What is required by the cusotmers need to be manufactured. THe qualititative inputs are taken thru research which are quantified & acordingly manufacturing planned. manufacturing needs to compliment Product development .


By santosh kumar, Marketing Manager, AUTOMOBILE  | 09 08 2009 04:35:27 +0000
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    Yes, the concept of making manufacturing and product engineering to work in parallel is good. This will help in reducing the overall product development time and increase in productivity. The only thing to be done is that the manufacturing engineers should have a early access to design information before manufacturing a product.


By Abhijeet Kadian, Sales/BD Manager, Bharat Heavy Electricals  | 09 07 2009 10:44:01 +0000
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True said.

 Both are two different things.

Requires two defferent mind set.

To get the best things from manufacturing, let product development team interact with manufacturing team or in Product development CFT include some members from manufacturing also.  


By Mani Kant Mishra, SBU/Profit Center Head, FOR CLOSEED GROUP  | 09 24 2009 10:42:09 +0000
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Both streams are altogether diffeent with different motives and objectives. NPD always should be kept away from the manufacturing. Manufacturing starts after successful completion of the NPD. when NPD design face finish, it has to be verified and than validate for all pros and cons. After feedback of varification and validation NPD go through the redesigning process, which is normally called DOM (Design out of Manufacturing) in NPD or Debugging in software dovelopment.

When NPD pass through this all tests, product goes to manufacturing with clear guide line for manufacturing process. Both the stream have very close co-ordination but cannot work together.


By Nitin M Aras, Head/VP/GM-Tech. Support, ODTIN Food Solutions Pvt Ltd  | 09 24 2009 06:31:07 +0000
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   Most companies want manufacturing to work in parallel with product engineering in order to reduce the overall product development time, but there are some problems. The most basic is that they lack access to up-to-date product information early in the design process and as the design progresses because of inconsistent and unreliable change the management procedures. So this will not work and it will causes confusion in life cycle process.


By Isha Verma, Sales/BD Manager, Larsen & Toubro  | 09 23 2009 09:10:04 +0000
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