just read the history of godse then comment. don't believe what you see on T.V . know first history then decide who was correct & who are not . i feel bad to use harsh words but when it comes to savarkar & godse i can't resist myself
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rahul p rinayat, Software Developer, Geometric Solution
| 08 05 2010 06:19:26 +0000
gandhism on naxalism is a very bad idea, as naxals are not the majority or the one in power to rule, they just want to make an impact by violence, if we show gandhism they will be happy to slaughter and make an impact.
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Satadru Shastri, Partner, Mukherjee & Shastri
| 04 13 2010 16:34:32 +0000
I would convert the two sides of argument : Should we face the threat of maoists by force or by non-violence? I would chose to tackle this by force. There was threat from Bhindranwale - operation blue star settled the issue. Srilanka faced threats from LTTE - Sri Lanka has won the war. We are facing twin wars - one at Kashmir and the other against Maoists. No Government can sit back when people are openly indulging in war. Whether it is internal or external. I really could not understand why kashmir was such an issue. We are running a government - not playing games of hide and seek. If the terrain is difficult and infiltration is difficult to avoid, build a border wall - stop infiltration. Use latest electronic technology to record infiltration. Launch a satellite to watch the border there twentyfour hours!! Once this is done, index every resident in kashmir. Remove all privacy laws there. Declare kashmir as a special state where strict national security laws are applicable. Establish a special court to deal with police/defence person attrocities strictly and quickly. Track all telephone calls, emails etc. A citizen should be free to engage in any activity there but his transactions are meticulously recorded and available for verification randomly. I understand that terrorists are using satellite phones there which does not pass through telecom networks. Whenever a signal is recorded, track the phone. Search for it. Either recover it or force them to destroy it. All satellite phone signals should be treated with suspicion there!! Try every suspect as per law in the special court. Provide sufficient appeal avenues at supreme court from the trial court. No intermediary courts should entertain the appeal. Courts should treat a suspect as innocent till proven guilty. With maoists - take one area at a time and route them out. Don't hesitate if some lives are lost. It is a war. In a war lives are lost. But meticulous planning should be there. There should be no hesitation to use air power. Track all sympathizers. If there are abetting crime, act against them too! I speak for my country. I don't like sovereignty of my country being threatened even if it by my own people who fight for a cause. In India, social welfare measures are excellent. We have very active judiciary. Any human being has an approach route to redress a grievance. Some exceptions do take place. India is a very large country. We still have palegars and attrocities do take place. Such exceptions do not warrant establishment of an organisation to wage a war against the country.
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SR Sham Sunder, CEO/MD/Director Technoaid
| 04 13 2010 11:24:21 +0000
Instead of naxalism I opt for maoist.To infuence any person with 'Gandhism' he should have faith upon any God,even upto a micro level, what they do not have, so Gandhism will be complete failure to curb maoist.
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R N Bhattacharyya, Freelancer, Freelancer
| 04 13 2010 06:14:41 +0000
dear all, let us not be single minded that it cannot be achieved Gandhism doesnt mean to sit folding ur hands with out attacking, the word gandhism is eternal which can be applied to any circumstances and the solution is not temporary its permanent if we go by gandhism, first try to prepare a ground plan whats the situation what are the necessities and whay are we fighting to whom are we fighting, who are responsible for the ammunation for the naxalites find it out through ur intelligence, if found block it, use the best technology to find the actual target place of this mavos, if everything is made then introduce para miltry forces, 40%of india is a redcorridor, if u go on in this way in clearing the mavos in violence way the casualtiy rate is doubled, who will be responsible and where does the buckstop????????? answer is unknown same as which is first HEN OR EGG???? gandism tells us to maintain patience and achieve ur goal with minimum casualities and deaths, when compared to this naxalism independence was a very very very big issue whaen we could achive such a big problem by non-violence so called gandism why not this?????? in gandhiji's own words"NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE FOR TRUE LOVE" and the true love is the safety of the nation so this way is also possibe first let us try man!!!!!!!!!! SATYAMEVA JAYATE
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krishnanand , B.Tech/B.E. student, vaagdevi institute of technology and sciences
| 04 12 2010 16:35:05 +0000
Good example given by Mr. Rao, and it is true that these people whether they are kashmiri's or Naxal they are the dissatisfied group of our society but now they are in the hand of professional terrorist and criminals, they are making use of these innocent people, they have do a lot of brain wash of them, so it is very difficult to deal with them in the way of Gandhigiri, rather the govt. need to solve these matter with greate priority by arresting and punishing the real culprit or the mastermind's.
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Mohammed Arif Iqbal, Team Leader -(NonTechnical), Oxfam India
| 04 12 2010 10:13:51 +0000
Yes I do believe thatwe can apply Gandhism to everything. What do you or I know about Naxalism... nothing. Just the fact that they are going around killing policemen..? But did we ever ask who is doing it, is it really naxals killing them, why do we not want to go beyond what the press tells us? Why are we so dumb and naive to accept anything written in the press...? have you or I seen the naxals killing the people..? if they have done so, what reasons do we know for them to do it...? why isnt the society debating on the problems of the naxals at the same time. What I have read in the press is that Naxalism started as a movement to fight agains the rich and evil landlords....!!! So who is the victim and who is the oprressor. Should we also not ask as to why is the government not listening to the naxals and let them talk instead of resorting to voilence. No matter which side, violence is always bad. You cannot cook an excellent dish, when you have all good ingredients, but you are forced to add a bit of smelly dirty water from the sewage right...? Then why do you accept violence in the society
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Syed Muqeemuddin, Project Leader/Managing Consultant IBM
| 04 11 2010 14:22:32 +0000
i accept it sir, those mavos dosent care for the lives of their men, but we are not like them we have to care and value the lives of our men, i.e crpf men, without porper training no one can win a war, in this circumstances its far better to make the strategies which are less devastating to us and more to them and the only way is non violence!!!!!!!!!!1
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krishnanand , B.Tech/B.E. student, vaagdevi institute of technology and sciences
| 04 11 2010 13:04:57 +0000
yes sir, let me elaborate it, gandhism dosent mean not to take any kind of violence action against mavoists, what i meant is first let us dry them that is deprive them from all their necessities, 1.) weapons 2.)networks. what happens if a fish doesnt get water???????? what we are doing is non violence, we do not kill them directly, but instead make them starve which will one day cause the result we need. or let us remove the problem by root itself,
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krishnanand , B.Tech/B.E. student, vaagdevi institute of technology and sciences
| 04 11 2010 07:50:18 +0000
Wonderful topic Anand, but it could have been better if you will explain little more about the two sides you had mentioned. Since there is no fruitful gains from the way the Govt. are dealing with the maoists(I would prefer to call them terrorist) this would be a nice option, but if it also fails i really likes to see an attack in way that would be the end of these so called rebels who are killing innocent jawans
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Manoj Kumar, Sr: Manager - QA, ARCHETYPE GROUP, INDIA
| 04 11 2010 05:52:31 +0000
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Gandhism may be a little too idealistic in today's society (and may have been so before). Naxalism - goodness, what is its definition? Are the 'Naxalites' really following their original mantra?
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Manob Chakravarti, Freelancer, Freelancer
| 04 13 2010 09:41:36 +0000
Though gandhism has proved to be powerful in many situation. It will not work in this situation. Gandhism in itself is a slow process to work on. It works on those species which have there own brain & mind to think and at least a fraction of humanity which is rarely found in naxalists because there minds are already hammered with destructive thoughts.
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Nilay Oza, Software Developer, Logical Solutions
| 04 12 2010 17:45:19 +0000
I believe that one instrument is not at all effective in each and every cases. This is not the 'Panacea' at all. In this current scenario, when one is firing, only a dumb can use the tricks of 'Non-Violence'. This is as if you are trying para trooping with the 'Statue' state. If you are not going to use your hands on time - you are destined to nose-dive. Thats the scene right now. As some of the fickle-minded persons are trying every odd tricks, where comes the question of not retaliating to them...? This is right time to give them lessons. One of the contributor has voiced about the possibilities that even giving 'Maoists' a blow wont be enough to guarantee that it wont be repeated again. Yes, there is no guarantee as such. But, we can not refrain ourself from answering those hardliners. They need a lesson and they should be served as well. We need to plan strategy and work on them to minimize innocent's casualties. But, tough and stringent actions are required.
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Kumar Saurav, Sr Consultant - SAP, Vitalwires Consulting Pvt Ltd
| 04 12 2010 15:03:11 +0000
Gandhigiri is irrevelent in 2011. Here both victim and oppresor are brethren killing their own brothers and sisters. Victims are dying because they are state employed fo rliving. Oppressor are are killing because of revenge on state. Distrudt on both side in in the root of society. Outlet of anger of oppressor i s thru killing( the political thought of killing is terrorism) here and outlet of victims are also thru killing who will bell the cat ? Oppressor or Victim????? OUR PC's "BUCK" stops on both sides..Victim does not know the Junglefare Oppressor does not know the victims( CRPF,POLICE and GOVT) can help NAXAL motivated Tribals( AP, Orissa, Chattishgarh,Bihar,Jharkhand,WB) to attend quality life in society at least Food , shelter, education to progress in the value chain. Debate should be nor gandhigiri but pave the way for gandhigiri , Empower tribal s by providing food shelter education . Educate tRibals will spread social values among themselves to eliminate the menace of ill motivated NAXAL s SO EMPOWER , EDUCATE then ELIMINATE should be debate theme. I congratulate person who thought of innovativenes in curbing NAXALISM
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Prashanta Bhaumik, Head/VP/GM-Tech. Support, ASPIRTEK Technology Ltd
| 04 12 2010 10:52:14 +0000
Mr. Syed, Refer to the recent history: in 2004, Dr. Y.S. Rajasekhar Reddy called them for negotiations and declared ‘Seize fire’ for Six months, as per his poll-promise. Maoists [in those days, they used call themselves as ‘Peoples War Group’ & C.P.I. (Marxist-Leninists) both of whom got merged into Today’s Maoists, as soon as the talks with the Govt. failed] while holding half-hearted discussions with the Government have strengthened their bases and width of extortion network. As the talks failed Dr. Reddy ordered the annihilation of them and they ran away from A.P. only to establish their bases in smaller states having weaker police forces. Whenever they call for negotiations, they either wish to stop the on-slaught of the State Police or wish to strengthen their cadre OR most likely both. It is a fact that many marginal sections of the Soceity like, tribals are getting short-changed by our Socio-Economic Establishment, but it is not them who are taking up arms but the external blood-thirsty, extorionistic, anti-social elements of the semi-urban soceity who are using violence both against the tribals as well as the police forces, unabated, calling themselves fighters for justics. Calling them, once again, for talks is like brushing one’s own hair with a Torch.
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M. Prabhakar Rao, Author of "Mayhem Of The Miserables!", http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/52075
| 04 12 2010 10:49:53 +0000
syed sir, i accept what u are saying but the talks are out of equation, govt called naxals for talks and the reply from them is the massarc which took place in dantewad. still do u belive that talks will work, everything cannot be attained by killing or fighting. they are not realising what they are trying to do, the motto with which the naxalism was started is completely diverted just like LTTE in srilanka, when the motto is getting diverted the policies or the methods of approching the root of the problem should also be diverted, we are to blame for it, and we are responsible to clear it, governament means we people, and we should achive it in some way, we have tried through violence, let us give a try through non-violence is it a mistake or a crime????????????????
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krishnanand , B.Tech/B.E. student, vaagdevi institute of technology and sciences
| 04 11 2010 15:08:12 +0000
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