CASTE BASED CENSUS: IS IT NECESSARY OR NOT

Dear Friends.

Shall have to change to "Reservation, if any, solely on economic basis"

If the present basis of reservation is to be maintained this is an essential not choice.

If the basis of reservation is shifting to economic criterion in that case this is not required. 

Any other way may at best be termed as "Jugaad". I guess....

what is merit ? what is education ? can you say that an educated person behave like as real educated person ? If there is corruption in merit then there is no difference in merit and majority. 

SO CASTE BASED CENSUS IS NECESSARY.

In safety point of view,we can go for caste based census,we can able to identify people belonging to jammu and kashmir,Now a days maoist is on a big group so its helpful to identify them and we can recity corruption in allocation of government quotas especially in central govt.vacanies,some many canditates are working in govt.jobs by providing false community cerificates

Yes - The truth is sometimes painful. Instead of resorting to un-productive arguments, we should look into the facts of these issues.

Everyone can understand the feelings of the poor people who are forced to identify, declare themselves, and placed on record as such in the census.

Similarly we can also understand the feelings of many in the backward class who are economically forward now and so do not like to be distigushed, grouped with and placed on record as such in this census.

The fact is that a large porton of mass belonging to the down trodden poulation of the country were kept cruelly oppressed and willfully suppressed for centuries by the rich and upper class communities and continued to do so to some extent even today.  

So far the majority religions of the country continues to distinguish its followers in different classes and mete out discriminated treatment based on various classes and its sub-classes and groups, and when there are many other dalits who belong to no religion at all, we need to be patient for some more time.

YES- It would have been ideal to use    this census to identify economically backward irrespective of their religion, cast or creed so as to provide them finacial support till their per capita income reach self supportive level.

Since it is going to take some more time for the change over from the present system of cast based reservations in various fields, to a system based of economic backwardness, it is necessary to have recent statistics and the status of the population that are eligible for various benefits under the various present schemes of reservations in order to rectify the current anomalies.

For this, the new Census should have provison to collect right information about economically back ward population so that a smooth change over from present cast based support system to socio-economic status based support system can happen in due course.

The important issue is not how individuals like to list themselves in the census; but what all are the information needed in this census and how these can be used to correct the anomalies in the present systems and practices and use it further to achieve the object of going towards non-cast discriminatory society.

I AGREE

Caste based census is necessary in India. After more then 63 years of independence the population could not forget the caste system. So its accounting must be done with census for future provision. Cure of a snake bite is the poison of the snake itself so to find a solution for caste free population it is necessary to know more and more about the existing caste with census and find some solution for its removal. We frequently come across with the news that the following caste is getting privilege and following is not , all these create  caste  feeling in society and subsequently in the country.

If the census will be based on the caste basis then it will be easy to the government to present the report in public about the percentage of the caste representation of population and the percentage of the benefit given according to their representation on population. This will eliminate the caste feeling among the population.

Latest : All most all Parliamenterians are in favour of such a Cencus. They want to know the ground reality of people's status in 2011 as next census is in 2021. Without latest statistics, no programme may be launched successsfully

Cencus reveals the fact, reveals the present time scenerio. There is no role in Census whether caste system will remain or not. As we all know, this power is vested with the Parliament, such decession requires a big mojority in favour and requires to be ratified by States.

This discussion is not a proper forum to discuss whether "reservation" should remain or not.

Remember .... the decession has come late. No waste of time by the authority.

Useful as a demographic tool. In the  US they have similar stuff based on race - similar to our caste. If you extend the same for other than demographic purposes, the purpose is lost

yes cate based census is very much necessary because it will clear many things about the caste and social structure after 60 years of independence. In fact people think that now there is no caste exist but if you see the atrocity cases and the oppression one will realize the presence of caste system and is deepening in the society like evil.

this caste based census will bring fourth many facts. The fact is of course that the ongoing elite policy on this issue has been like a "three monkeys" policy: see no caste, hear no caste, speak no caste. Those who talk about caste are stamped as casteist; the victims are blamed for speaking about their humiliation and oppression!  There has never been a successful way of maintaining supremacy as denying that supremacy exists.

caste based do not only clear the clouds of statistics about the different facts but also will helpful to track the traditions persistent in the particular caste which may be used to design various intervention programs in social development sectors. For example the practices followed by certain caste may help the public health specialist to redesign the intervention.

moreover I feel that there should be the census about the out caste people also. out caste are those who are de-notified tribes. 

Hi guys, Reservation should be there upto some extent like giving eduaction up to Graduate level, consider the people who r poor and belongs from remote areas, don't u have the responsibility for supporting our frnds, collegues in there eduaction those r belongs to poor. As my openion it should be there, but suppose one person is belongs from reserved category and he got jovt job. then he should committed to his family members not to attain that reservation bcoz now he is in a postion to finance his family or govt should takeoff his reservation for his family members.

Despite Constitutional mandate of equality, caste based decisions have been taken taken and implemented by all the Governments, be it at Centre or any State.

In the circumstances, caste has become an important issue for entire nation.

So long as Governments continue with caste based decisions like reservations, benefits to minorities etc., census will have to be caste based.  

we need it, else ehat si point in doing a census unless you haev all detaisl of caste , creed , rce, we are lnd where race and religion are many

reqd.....caste ..hierarchy ...future job allocation ..better india ..