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Created by : Ramakrishnan P R, CEO/MD/Director, Business  | 04 01 2009 05:14:49 +0000
Industry : Asset ManagementFunctional Area : M&A(Corporate Finance)
Keywords : common civil code
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one law for every citizen Vs law according to religkion
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One law for every citizen. When we will have this in our country? See what is happening is Pakistan? When one differentiate citizen, the same fate is not very far for our country.


By Ramakrishnan P R, CEO/MD/Director, Business  04 01 2009 05:14:49 +0000
 
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Kudos Mr. Murugesan, your views were original, thought provoking and delves into the real situation without being carried away by impractical "Political Propoganda" as rightly termed by you. It really takes courage to think original and voice it standing by truth.

When it is 'Uniform Civil Code', people fail to consider the fact that this so called 'Panacea' in fact would be big problem really and would create dissentions. For instance in United States, the federal setup allows enacting laws for individual states, even for 'Criminal Codes'. While a certain action is crime in one state, it would be allowed in another state. Why do they do that? To be a true 'Democracy'and to reflect the aspirations of the people belonging to a region of their country, and allow the freedom of differing religious or ethic group viz., Catholics, Protestants, Latinos, Blacks etc.,

Allowing a section of people to follow their own customs has been followed by 'Rulers of all Countries' during 'All times'. Only Autocratic and Despotic regimes with unitary set ups have enacted 'Uniform Civil Codes' that has resulted in either their downfall or that of their codes.

In fact the setup of differing 'Civil Codes' has made US (not us) a superpower. While we still bicker on simple, impractical and unreal issues like 'Uniform Civil Code', forgetting the upliftment of 600 million people in our country below 'Poverty Line', whose 'Uniform Civil Code' - 'Poverty', we are blissfully unaware of.


By Doulath Khan M. Mohamed, Dy. Editor, The Masterbuilder  04 11 2009 04:55:14 +0000
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WHEN WE ARE SECULAR THEN WHY DIFFERENT LAW FOR DIFFERENT RELIGION?ACTUALLY EVERYONE IS SELFISH AND EVEN THE TOUGH JUDGEMENT OF HIS OWN RELIGION DISLIKES,ONLY ON SURFACE CRIES FOR THE FAVOUR.


By SB DIKSHIT, STATE QUALITY MONITOR, U.P.R.R.D.A  | 07 10 2009 04:04:17 +0000
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Dear All,

The Indian Constitution has given 6 fundamental rights to all the citizens of our country, most important fundamental rights are , " Equality for all and Right for constitutional remedies."

The Right of equality states that there has to be no discrimination against any citizen on grounds only of religion, race, caste, sex, place of birth or any of them.
Also it states that there has to be equal opportuity for everyone in Jobs and Education too.. But there are some clauses which states that some priority be given to one who need them, which is been exploited by the politicians.

The right to constitutional remedies states that the citizen can approach the supreme court and even the president in the event any of the fundamental rights are encroached. It does not again discriminate.

As per our constitution there is a common law for everyone , but the politicians, courruption has not allowed this to happen, I Believe a clean system will let fullfilment of the objective of our constitution.


By Japan Shah, H.O.D, Oxford School of Management  | 05 12 2009 08:48:45 +0000
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How can one have different laws for different people belonging to several castes,communities etc.Such kind of acts will surely create hatred between people and it won't be good for a democratic nation where every citizen is supposed to enjoy equal rights.


By Jyoti Rath, Sr. Associate, Barclays  | 05 12 2009 08:12:07 +0000
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NANDKUMAR B.SAWANT.,M.COM.LL.B.(MUMBAI),ADVOCATE

MOBILE.09325226691,09271971251

e.mail.adv.nbsawant@yahoo.co.in

e.mail.nandkumarbs@sify.com

REGARDING THE COMMON LAW CODE, KINDLY NOTE THAT

1.INDIAN CONSTITUTION HAS ASSURED EVERY CITIZEN FREEDOM OF RELIGION AND OTHER FUNDAMENTAL RIGHTS.

2.UNLESS LAW AMMENDMENTS ARE PASSED IT WILL BE VERY DIFFICULT TO IMPLEMENT THE IDEA OF COMMON LAW CODE IN INDIA.

3.INDIA IS A DEMOCRATIC COUNTRY  AND NOT A DICTATORSHIP .HENCE EXISTING LAW PROVISIONS ARE FOLLOWED AND UNLESS PROPER LAW AMMENDMENTS ARE MADE THE IMPLEMENTATION OF IDEA OF COMMON LAW CODE WILL BE A DREAM .THE IDEA IS PERFECT AND ESSENTIAL IN THE LONG RUN IN THE INTEREST OF INDIA .

4.WITH BEST REGARDS

THANKING YOU

NANDKUMAR B.SAWANT,M.COM.LL.B.(MUMBAI),ADVOCATE


By NANDKUMAR B.SAWANT, LAWYER / ATTORNEY, LEGAL SERVICES FOR COURT CASES IN INDIA  | 05 01 2009 04:36:59 +0000
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No doubt there should be common laws for each & every citizen of the country.If  the lawmakers of the company itself will laid different laws for different religions then how can we ensure democracy in the country.All People will not feel equal and it will definitely arise feeling of hate against each other.So to make sure that we live in democracy and all citizens enjoy equal rights we have to make sure that there should be one law for all and not try to create differences among people.


By Aarti Gupta, Legal Consultant  | 04 30 2009 08:54:32 +0000
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There is already common civil code for the entire nation, however, so long as the personal matters like marriage, divorce etc. are governed by the personal laws based on the religion. The Muslim law in India is still not codified like Hindu Law. Charistans are goverend by Special or Indian personal laws for personal matters. Since there various religions followed in India, hence, a strict common civil code is not possible. Today India is following quasi Common Civil Code.


By arun kumar, Examiner of Trade Marks, , trade marks registry  | 04 30 2009 04:55:56 +0000
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I would support Darwin and say that equality is main pillar of our country. We need to have one law and it is possible. We do not have to look far for that. Not many people are aware of the fact that the state of Goa has a unified civil code within the state called ‘Family Laws’ that is accepted by all communities – Hindus, Christians, Muslims and others. If it is possible in a small part of India than why not in the entire country.


By Rohini Sondkar, Investment Advisor, Kotak Mahindra  | 04 02 2009 05:24:39 +0000
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Unless v dont have one law for every citizen v wont move forward.. Politicians will continue playing wid minority vote bank


By Venugopal , Business Analyst, Business  | 04 01 2009 15:23:20 +0000
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Unless v have one law for every citizen v wont move forward~


By Venugopal , Business Analyst, Business  | 04 01 2009 15:20:22 +0000
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yes even i agree that the law should be same for one and all, but with so much corruption one is getting away with anything for that matter, so there should be stringent action who breaks the law and it should be the same for everyone regarding his position or status in the society.


By Jithesh Ramesh, Actuary Manager, Tata Aig Insurance Solutions  | 04 01 2009 07:56:02 +0000
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The main pillar of any democratic country is equality. Without equality, there can be no justice and without justice, there can be no equality. Everything changes with time and so does the concept of justice.I personally feel that we need to change some personal laws and if possible have a ’uniform civil code’.


By Darwin Singh, Portfolio Manger, Kotak Mahindra  | 04 01 2009 05:27:09 +0000
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The Constitution of India provides absolute freedom of Religion to all Citizens of India. This means every citizen is free to practise any religion of his /her choice and to propagate the religion. This is true Democracy. Much has been written on Common Civil Code since independence, but it is only a political gimmick which in fact creates hatred among citizens. It is political parties who propagate that different religious law for the follower of different religions is appeasement, but in fact this is true democracy where any individual citizen feels secure to profess religion of his choice and be governed by his own law.

Politically speaking State cannot force the citizens to follow the law which opposes one's religion, if so made, then where the democracy will go?

In my view though it is needed to have some reforms in the pesonal laws where necessary but not in total constrast to one religion. The need of the hour is peace and harmony amongst citizens and eradication of poverty, corruption, terrorisom, check on dishonest polititian who create hatre amongst groups for this own gains. Necessity is in providing education to all, employment to all with no discrimination. The debat on Common Civil Code is only a political agenda which surfaces most of time during elections and thereafter it goes back to cold storage.

There is no honest attempt by any political party to consider and reconsider the question. In fact some times I feel that let the law makers draft a Common Civil Code, present it before all the major religious views and invite suggestions. Take good initiative, educate the masses, re-draft it keep certain provisions which are in conflict as they are like saying certain sections of the code will be divided in (a)... (b)...(c) and so on applicable to those who opt for it under their religious law, then there will be possibility of the Common Civil Code. Consensus is the key word........................


By Ashfaq Shaikh, Private practitioner/Lawyer, Legal & General Group  | 05 30 2009 09:24:46 +0000
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Before talking about 'One Law' for every citizen, we should talk about 'One Law' for Rich and Poor, 'One Law' for the 'Oppressed and the Oppressor', "One Law' for 'vegetarians and non-vegetarians' and so on and so forth. 

If the topic is 'Common Medical Care for All', I could understand. Had it been "Common Education for All', I would have applauded. Without even providing these necessities to our public, if somebody starts this 'Feudal Argument of a Folly', then I am left with no other choice but to state certain facts.

To start with no matter what, all Civil Laws have a orientation towards a certain, Race, Religion, Caste or Creed. What is food for one would be poison for other. The so called 'Common Civil Code' of the west even is necessarily a 'Christian Civil Code', with a lot of changes and allowances for diffent peoples, races and groups. People who read history and legislation would be well versed in these differences and would know the 'Truth' that no Civil code is 'Truly' common.

I would like to relate the following incident in Indian Railways to clarify on this topic that was made into a 'Mountain', when it was just a foolish 'Molehill'.

In a certain A/c coach a 'Vegetarian' opposed a 'Non-vegetarian' having his 'Non-vegetarian' food. When asked by the agitated 'Vegetarian' to intervene, the intelligent Station Master asked the 'Vegetarian' to file a complaint in his 'Station Complaint Book' and took him out for a 15 minute vaccation, by when the 'Non-vegetarian' passenger finished his 'Non-Vegetarian Food' to his satifaction. The Station Master, a prudent man knows that no 'Vegetarian' can impose his will on a 'Non-vegetarian' and took the 'Vegetarian' to task, by making him under go the rigours of filing a futile complaint, while ensuring that the Non-vegetarian excersised his 'God' given right of enjoying his Very Good, Proteinaceous, 'Non-Vegetarian Food' (That might help him win a 'Olympic' gold someday, in this country starved of 'Olympic Glories').

If the 'Station Master' had avered that the 'Directive Principles' of Indian Constitution (Non Binding on any Indian entity and hence not obligatory) discourages 'Non-vegetarinism' and banned the 'Non-vegetarian' passenger from having his 'rightful' 'Non-vegetarian' meal, then he would have paid the price dearly, being served with a 'Penalty' for his unruly intervention with the absolutely legal 'Non-vegetarian' diet of a rightful Passenger of Railways.

Why I state this? If we play with Law for the whims and fancies of a few we will be ending up paying for it with 'strife', as was the case of 'White America' or 'White Australia' where the original inhabitants like Red Indians, Aboriginees, Mexicans and the Blacks were treated like cattle even 5 decades before, until legislation was changed to allow the 'Native Americans' follow their own customs. Curiously, 'The White Anglo Saxans' who captured these nations just 400 years ago, too called their 'Christian Laws' as common civil code.

Another famous example for the folly of 'Common Civil Code' is that of 'Amish Christians' in the 'United States of America' who are allowed to have four wifes as they follow the 'Abrahamic' traditions of 'Christianity'. And the result of this magnanimity has made US a superpower. While 'Turkey' to the contrary was imposing an idiotic 'Western Common Civil Code', due to the folly of 'Kamal Ata Turk' alienating a big chunk of its citizens the 'Kurds' who resorted to a bloody insurgency that cannot be contained by 'Istanbul', to this day.

And that is why Legislation should be left to be dealt with 'Luminaries' like 'Ambedkar' with a staunch background on 'History', 'Sociology' 'Jurisprudence' etc., rather than being approached in a slip shod manner by lay public. That is the best thing for "Indian" progress. Curiously 'Hitler' too supported 'Common Civil Code' for his 'Master German Race' in Germany, which had no place for 'Jews', 'Communists' and 'Non-Christians', until he destroyed 'Germany' and himself. 


By Doulath Khan M. Mohamed, Dy. Editor, The Masterbuilder  | 05 13 2009 19:19:26 +0000
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But in today scenario law relate the personal laws to the religious customs and traditions and are out and out against any tamper of these laws. The other point that they raise is that when 99 per cent of laws do not cent percent percent protect the interests of citizens, then what is the guarantee of ’uniform civil code’ being successful?
The political propaganda is also yet another way to create divisions in the society.


By Murugesan S, Sr. Associate, Kotak Mahindra  | 04 01 2009 06:03:57 +0000
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