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Created by : Sujatha srivastava, Associate/Senior Associate, AT Kearney  | 04 13 2011 11:32:22 +0000
Industry : Human Resources (HR) ConsultingFunctional Area : Leadership Styles(People Management)
Activity:  448 views;  last activity : 08 12 2011 11:24:25 +0000

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Cisco to lay off 550 employees!! The company embarks on a restructuring of consumer business.

The entity would exit some of its consumer businesses and and focus on key areas such as core routing, switching and services, collaboration, architectures and video.

Before this there was a huge lay-off at Nokia.. and it keeps on happening everywhere..

So these companies do not regard the importance of loyalty of employees..

Or it is important to make good profit to pay well and hence they take corrective measures for betterment of the other employees..

Are companies interested in making Profit or the employees are equally important?

 
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A company's progress is the direct measure of the employees success . So if the lay off happens it has some good part too..


By Sujatha srivastava, Associate/Senior Associate, AT Kearney  04 13 2011 11:32:22 +0000
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Employees should understand that people do not start a company for charity. so, all companies directly or indirectly run on the word "profit". Without profit, there will be no employees. Of course the companies can focus a little bit on employees but that is not a rule.
By Munshi Ramchand, Retired  | 06 23 2011 17:23:36 +0000
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All the activity take place in company should be profit centric.and when a company starts thinking about the bigger profit the first priority becomes to satisfy their employee in financial as well as atmosphere site.
By Pankaj Gupta, RO, American Express  | 06 23 2011 16:20:56 +0000
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BOTH ARE MUTUALLY CONNECTED. 

PROFIT IS IMPOSSIBLE WITHOUT EMPLOYEES AND EMPLOYEES PLAY AN IMPORTANT ROLE IN GAINING PROFITS. 


BOTH ARE INSEPARABLE. 


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By Sairam. M, System Administrator  | 04 23 2011 03:32:42 +0000
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Profit is important but not at the cost of employees.. coz satisfied & happy employees help in profit maximisation..& acheive organizational goals..
By Mohammed Sarfaraz Alam, Team Lead - Process Design & Quality Control, Powertech Automation Solutions  | 04 17 2011 07:21:36 +0000
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someting emplyee is very talent but due to some home problem or any financial condition to he got less percentage so in this case his talet or his skill is important rahter than is profile...
By satish , MBA/PGDM student, sinhgad institue  | 04 15 2011 09:58:15 +0000
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our creditors to cash collect on time..and available assets to maintain properly...
By satish , MBA/PGDM student, sinhgad institue  | 04 15 2011 09:40:18 +0000
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For every company the most important asset is its human resource. A company can run without machinery and profit, but not without the human hands and brains. Though for long this asset has been neglected, but its time the companies give some time for this outstanding asset.
By sanjay dey, Tax & accounting , Consultatnt  | 04 14 2011 17:36:15 +0000
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Profit is always important, however the percent of this decision is always depend on vision of management.

 


By sagar chandrakant patil, Management Executive, M & M Industries  | 04 14 2011 12:28:20 +0000
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Well the recent-recession just answered this more or less ... when profits started dipping; Companies started exiting employees !
By Harnish Jain, Assistant Manager - IT (Tech Support), CeX WeBuy Entertainment Pvt. Ltd.  | 04 14 2011 12:05:58 +0000
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For a Company profit is important any day actually the company has come into existence to generate profit. Company cannot do any thing on its own so the Employees  are the main important tools. Who take care of their employees will earn more profit as compared to other companies in general. 

Hence good companies will take care of its employees first.


By Rathin Deb, Freelance Retail Consultant  | 04 14 2011 08:24:13 +0000
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I would want to know how many companies believe in the "Human resource is the most valuable resource" philosophy and how many actually practice it.I would be interested in replies well supported by real Nos. rather than hypothetical ones used for PR purpose.
By vivekanand chaudhary, Human resource Department, HR-Officer,Transport Corporation of India ltd.  | 04 14 2011 07:30:24 +0000
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Without employees, there is no profit. I rest my argument here.
By Suryanarayan Murthy, Asst Vice President (Corporate Finance), A Hydro Power Project  | 04 14 2011 06:11:47 +0000
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It is similar to the action of a captain when the ship is sinking.Some weight has to be unloaded to save the majority of the people.Such actions are inevitable.It is time the Govt. amends the CONTRACT WORKERS ACT so as to benefit the employees and the management.
By MANI SUNDARAM, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR CORP, Super Auto Forge ltd  | 04 14 2011 02:21:29 +0000
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if we take example of a person what he do? he do the things that are beneficial for him. like a company do the things what is beneficial for it. And what is the most beneficial for the company, i think its money and profit. so profile is most important thing for a company. other things lie after it.


By Nitin Mehra, Software Developer, ROBOMAN MICROSYSTEMS  | 04 13 2011 21:39:03 +0000
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Any company has to get some return on investment of share holders otherwise the capital will go shrinking as share holders would not like to continue to keep their monies in a company that does not give return on investment/dividend the moment the dividend starts going down the share holder thinks of disposing off his share to cut the losses. If a company is not making profit in some of its operations/areas it is only natural for the company to shred those operations and try to improve the areas where it is doing well. As regards the employees they are associated with a particular set of skills associated with area of operation they are handling if that area of operation is not turning out the profits the employees should blame themselves for continuing in their job as they will be well aware of the way the operations are going by the way only those people who cannot find greener pastures when the decline starts will be holding on to the jobs.
By kanukurthy sudershanrao, Operations Manager, Andhra Bank  | 04 13 2011 16:10:20 +0000
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Today if companies need to survive they have to think differently,the have to re-imagine their business plans to ensure growth. Sometimes companies lay off people in order to hire much more. No one will talk about it when they go on a hiring spree tomorrow hiring double or triple the number of people they lay off today.
By Percy Doctor, Management Consultant  | 04 13 2011 13:54:41 +0000
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business is not a charity,yes this is true that employees are assets of any company bt this is true without money there is no staff satisfaction.company should take care of his monetary values with employees' satisfaction.
By neha choubey, BUSINESS OPERATION OFFICER, LKG JEWELLERS PVT LTD  | 04 13 2011 13:07:36 +0000
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Every company think and understand the language of money and not employee.For them only money matters not the health, wellbeing of the employee.
By anuradha , Education Coordinator, A to Z Technologies  | 04 13 2011 12:32:47 +0000
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Having an experience of being an employee and now being a business man myself. I would like all the employees to think this way. Employees are very much important for every company. But just because employees are good, the company can't hold them even though its running in losses. If the company has money, then only it can pay the employees. If it's not having money, then the company cannot do debt's for paying the employees. It is obvious
By Md Abdul Quddus, CEO/MD/Director, BotQ Home Needs Private Limited  | 04 13 2011 12:22:19 +0000
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Definately any businessman or women runnning a company is not for social works or charity but for wealth and success. but all this is possible when they have their employees support with them.They have to take care of their profit along with their staff satisfaction to run a successful business.
By Rohit Thakur, Electrical Engineer-Industrial, Quality Engineering and Software Technologies  | 04 13 2011 11:55:58 +0000
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Can a company be called as a company without people working/ employees being present there? A company can go without profit for long but just in case if you take out all the employees then what will be the consequence? Catastrophic disaster enough for complete shutdown, right?
By Ardhendu Pal, Upgrading Knowledge Base, Researching in Computer Software/Hardware  | 06 25 2011 05:57:48 +0000
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Let me add one more thing one enters into an org. because he/she is competent enough. It is an employee who runs the co. not any one individual for profit.
By anuradha , Education Coordinator, A to Z Technologies  | 06 24 2011 15:53:33 +0000
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The asset of any org is people/manpower without them no org work for longer. So employees are more important
By anuradha , Education Coordinator, A to Z Technologies  | 06 24 2011 11:32:36 +0000
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All the Corporates does that and if there is no profit they will shut down or call SOS to the Government to bail them out with the tax-payers money...:)
By konkan SINGHA, Head- Talent Acquisition (IT), OptedJobs  | 06 24 2011 08:08:41 +0000
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Employee first then profit are important. Company can not run without employees in todays scenario. And profit also can not possible without field staff or employees. More or less employee must require. So employee first then profit. And employee is comapny's profit. Thanks Ms.Sujatha for referal..
By Virag Shah, Confidential  | 04 18 2011 08:55:04 +0000
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Ya Sujatha, it is a great topic. In the recent scenario some company thinks about employees prospective, but normally about company profit. In MNC their moto is to gain profit only, they talk more about employee prospective but in practical it is different.


By Jagdeep Ohlan, Engineer Maintenance, ACPL  | 04 18 2011 06:29:46 +0000
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Got nothing to say here..... Everything is said and done . :)
By shivabharathy , Webmaster, Organic Apex  | 04 18 2011 05:18:27 +0000
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Employees are important even when the companies are not doing so well.(As I read somewhere) When employees go (lay off or otherwise) they take the knowledge, experience, domain knowledge and client knowledge straight to your competition!
By Aravind Murthy, Technology Analyst, Infosys Technologies Limited  | 04 17 2011 13:03:52 +0000
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Empolyees are the one earn profit for the companies, hence right employees are very important. Employees need to be professional and accept the reality of business and do the best to earn profit which will result in growth for all or else loss, closing the business and lay-off.
By Cyril , General Manager & Head - Marketing , Bajaj Electricals Limited  | 04 17 2011 08:28:57 +0000
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I agree with Mrs.Sujata if your Employees are Well skills and educated then you don,t have to looking after profit, Profit will come to you. So Employees are Important.
By MD ASIF ALAM, Sap PP Functional Consultant, IT  | 04 17 2011 06:56:31 +0000
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In my opinion both are important. Every company wants to maximize its profits and expects the ROI. The profit generation is the result of group efforts and employees are also important.Some companies are giving importance to their manpower and some may not. But the companies giving importance to the employees are very much sustainable in the long run and others are in the short run and not able to sustain long. Everybody in the organizatios is contibuting for the success. Thanks Ms.Sujatha for the referral.


By NATTERAJA R. ARIKRISHNAN, GM-Projects, Bentec Electricals & Electronics Pvt. Ltd  | 04 15 2011 16:45:16 +0000
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IN ANY INDUSTRY IT IS NOT PROFIT THAT COMES FIRST IT IS THE WORK FORCE. THE PROFIT OCCUPIES THE LAST STAGE IN 4P'S CONCEPT.


By sudhakar , BUSINESS CONSULTANT  | 04 15 2011 16:40:39 +0000
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We can not distinguish profit and employees. To run an organization, profit is must. To gain the profit man power is must. In such circumstances, employer should not decrease the man power for the sake of maintaining the profit. Employer should have broad mind to distribute the profit in a ratio such that either employer or employees should accept it, viewing the present company's condition. It make more profit to the company from the employee's in due course it fetch more for the correct decision taken by the company. This my view. If any has better suggestion is invited.
By Raghotham R, Materials Manager, M/s.Karle Group of Companies, Bangalore.  | 04 15 2011 15:37:24 +0000
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Without worker no person can become employer. Obviously, he might be invested money for company's growth and his growth. If he forget the back bone who has supported him then eventually such organization will perish. Now a days, we observe 95% of the company's strategy is to make money for company and his bosses growth only.
By Raghotham R, Materials Manager, M/s.Karle Group of Companies, Bangalore.  | 04 15 2011 06:36:27 +0000
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Yes, it should be. O support your views, Sujatha & thanks for referral.
By SHRIKANT MANOHAR DANKE, Project Manager, Phadnis Infrastructur Ltd  | 04 14 2011 11:42:24 +0000
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Employees are asset to company. This secret is more important than all, since employees are the first customers of their products. For example...Binny, Madura coats, HM are some of the firms are closed due to the dissatisfaction of their employees.
By Paul Sureshkumar, Manager, Selvan Marketing  | 04 14 2011 10:42:05 +0000
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Of course profit is important, Producing a good employee who believes the company's philosophy is a better profit a company can ever have.
By Kandavel Raja, Project Manager, Sobha Developers Ltd  | 04 14 2011 09:01:38 +0000
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The HR policy adopted from US is of no loyalty from or to the Employee .. 


By Vidhu Dar, CEO/MD/Director, Shiva's Retreat  | 04 13 2011 17:39:26 +0000
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Cause and effect it is clear that people are most important facet that is most important that can lead the companies to profit. It may also be noted strive factory of the empoyees is the difference between a profit making company and ever growing company. If the people are ignored, the ownership is lost, profits if the company is make due to market trend will not last for long.
By srinivas , Head HR, IMNC  | 04 13 2011 17:13:14 +0000
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Employees are considered 'disposible' by companies. That' the policy of most companies, will do anything to achieve bottom line performance and please shareholders. What is needed is new kind of ownership/stewardship models for companies, which will encourage real value creation over profit motive.
By Abhijit Anand Prabhudan, Admin/Facilities Manager, Ca*****  | 04 13 2011 14:20:57 +0000
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Of all the resources available to any organization, people are the most important. Any other resource can be replicated but it is difficult to replicate talent that has been honed over many years. The real problem is that in good times, organizations tend to have more employees than are needed. How else do you explain thousands of professionals being "on the bench" at any given point of time in the leading software companies? Downsizing (or rightsizing to be politically correct!) is inevitable when there is a downturn or a slowdown. Laying off people may be tempting as a cost-reduction mechanism in the short-term but is a poor strategy as it results in loss of human capital and possible loss of morale among the other employees. Downscoping is a better option. Rarely do organizations consider this option. We are probably returning to the Milton Friedman doctrine where the only business of business is to make profits. It is unfortunate because it is no longer valid. Profits are important but credibility is even more so. The best of organizations recognize this and avoid downsizing under any circumstances.
By B V Krishnamurthy, Chief Academic Advisor and Distinguished Professor, RIMS  | 04 13 2011 14:18:22 +0000
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Investing on Employees, certainly, increase the profits. Spending few lac on employee, indirectly ,contributes to enhance their out-put, motivation, morale, belongingness, more result-oriented and also reduce friction between the managements& labors thereby, reduce litigation, wastage in down-time due to strikes, legal proceedings etc.

So, in my opinion, if you gear up the workforce properly, they can be primed nicely to yield your expectations.


By KALIYAMOORTHY , Oil & Gas Area Coordinator, Undisclosed  | 04 13 2011 13:18:10 +0000
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I tend to agree with your point of view Sujatha.


By Rathin Deb, Freelance Retail Consultant  | 04 13 2011 12:48:23 +0000
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its a question of balance sheet... where we have to manage liabilities and assets equal.... so depending on company policy... what they give treatment to employees... its an assets or liability... if its an assets than company should take care of employees
By Nitin M Aras, Head/VP/GM-Tech. Support, ODTIN Food Solutions Pvt Ltd  | 04 13 2011 11:51:34 +0000
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