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Created by : Isha Verma, Sales/BD Manager, Larsen & Toubro  | 01 05 2010 09:52:32 +0000
Industry : Industrial Products/Heavy MachineryFunctional Area : Growth(Strategy & Execution)
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Friends, we know that an international conference was held in copenhagen regarding climate change. The meeting represented an important step forward in efforts to protect the earth from climate change,  which is posing a threat to the survival of humanity.  In the conference the developed countries were forcing the developing countries to reduce the emission of green house gases. But, they failed to reach concrete agreements on funds and technology transfer the developed countries should provide. Many smaller countries rejected the deal outright. So what do you think friends, Is copenhagen a first good step or complete failure?

 
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No experiment is a complete failure. It will stand as a bad example. So Copenhagen can not be termed as complete failure. Long time back. when WTO talks failed, one of our minister, I think it is Kamal Nath, commented that no accord is better than a bad accord. Assume Copenhagen came to a conclusion that all nations shall cut emission equally, without looking at current and past status, countries like India will be affected.

More over reports are abundant in the internet which questions the whole story of Global Warming. Scientific research are conducted towards  expected end result. For example, some body may instruct scientist to look for clues, which indicate global warming, and ignore any thing against it. For example, if one monitors the temperature of our cities, you may feel that the globe is warming. If you take into account of the rural, it may show a different picture.

Under this cloudy condition, India has to collect its own data, at least within India and act accordingly without any external pressure, and guide lines.    


By Kadal Amutham, Head R&D , Fifth Generation Technologies (P) Ltd  01 09 2010 14:26:34 +0000
 
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I think it is not a good step because there are no legally binding targets that the developed countries have to meet. So, in terms of that, that's one of the major premises of how we are going to tackle global warming and climate change. In terms of that we are saying it is a complete failure. We have failed to agree at a sort of solution which will lead us to a viable action plan towards controlling climate change. And we believe that it is a disastrous summit and it is specially disastrous for India's poor and the vulnerable section because they are going to be most severely hit.


By Isha Verma, Sales/BD Manager, Larsen & Toubro  01 05 2010 09:52:32 +0000
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I am an optimistic ....

At least there is a committment to continue the dialogue ! And yes therefore, it is first small - good step however tiny


By anup bagla, M.Phil student @ AHRD and Consultant / Specialist - Process & Environment, Energy Conservation & Sustainability, Stanley Consultants I P Ltd. (On Assignment basis)  | 01 22 2010 09:04:10 +0000
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India is a major power in the world, but does not act like one ! At Copenhagen we were a passive responder, we did not take a lead. If India is not part of the problem (Global Warning), it can be be at least part of the solution...? 


By Uday Kundargi, ENGINEERING CONSULTANT - HYDROCARBONS  | 01 17 2010 14:46:34 +0000
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To get an agreement about climate change will be a very long road. It is unrealistic to expect a good agreement in this first step. Hopefully, there will be some more opportunities in the future.


By Pedro Gonzalez Lopez, Advance Quality Engineer, Alps Electric  | 01 17 2010 01:31:56 +0000
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Though nothing great materialised a first step is always a good step. At least now there is a background on which to proceed further. The next round of climate talks can focus on the failures and what was not achieved here.

But it should be held at once as mother nature is not going to wait for us to meet and arrive at an understanding to set things right. The world is replete with climate changes charachterised by extreme snow fall and hot temps even in winter. If all these are not indications, what else can be?

All the nations have a moral responsibility to carry forward the copenhagen talks and bring it to a fruitition. The Industrialised nations have to take the lead here as they are the ones who have reaped the benefits of all this industrialisation and contributed to its accompanying downfalls. But it would be a complete failure if there is not progress on this first step.

Like Neil Armsrong commented, "Its one big step for mankind" when he landed on the moon, so also this is indeed a huge step for mankind provided it is acted upon.


By Jaygopal Raghavan, Marketing Manager, Landmark Group  | 01 16 2010 07:23:11 +0000
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YES THIS IS THE FIRST GOOD STEP.

 


By VINAY VASUDEV MANDAN, PRODUCTION INCHARGE, RIGIDPAK CONTAINER'S LTD.  | 01 11 2010 22:14:26 +0000
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It is first good step. I had an oppurtunity to hear Dr. R.K.Pachauri today speak on strategic management of energy & environment for sustainable development. There were many questions raised by the audience on existence of development models ,if any , which were not energy driven.Dr. Pachauri cited the example of Japan.He also mentioned of the impact that BASIC (Brazil , South America , India & China) group countries had on the proceedings of Copenhagen summit. Extensive Development of  Railways network by China was cited as a good example of controlling emissions by proving efficient public transport with state of the art technology. Of course there were other views also like India should first make all out efforts to improve its per capita electricity consumption to the standards of the developed countries .


By sushil kumar singh, Engineering Manager, indian railways  | 01 11 2010 16:34:42 +0000
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We should lead the world rather than led by others


By Kadal Amutham, Head R&D , Fifth Generation Technologies (P) Ltd  | 01 11 2010 12:46:28 +0000
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I believe that it is the FIRST GOOD STEP. I heartily agree with Mr. Amutham as I find his thoughts completely progressive. Thanks for the referral :)


By Makrand Bhave, AGM - Corporate Business, E18, part of Network 18 Group  | 01 11 2010 10:57:17 +0000
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Copenhagen is not a complete failure. It didnt bring out anything concrete like the Kyoto meet which introduced the concept of Carbon credit trading and emission targets.

Developed countries didnt make any great commitments but focussed on rising economic powers like india and China. Though this may sound a bit discriminatory, it is in fact a blessing in disguise as it will lead to an emphasis on environmentally sound development in these countries.


By Jos Conil, Architect, Ace Group Architects  | 01 11 2010 10:51:16 +0000
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this is the record because most of the nations participated.
By AJUY SUNDAR, B.Tech/B.E. student, G.C.T.,COIMBATORE.  | 01 11 2010 09:11:31 +0000
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At least a step is taken..

the problem is so wast that it cant be solved in a day or two. At lease some of the thoughts were raised. Consequences were measured. It is now worry of entire universse not a single country or a nation.

Yes the developed countries should have actively imposed some of the acts on themselves and should have lead.

But Indian voice politically raised but not technically. Indian way of life is the only solution for all environmental related problems


By keshav m, Project Architect, adonis designs  | 01 11 2010 07:55:00 +0000
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Writing in capitals or using bold letters are equivalent to shouting. Unless you want to shout, kindly do not use it


By Kadal Amutham, Head R&D , Fifth Generation Technologies (P) Ltd  | 01 10 2010 05:54:31 +0000
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I AM STRONGLY SUPPORT ON THIS, BECAUSE WHEN WE IDENTIFIED THE PROBLEM AND STARTED TO PUT ALL THE HEAD TOGETHER, THIS IS THE WAY TO SOLVE ANY PROBLEM IN THE WORLD.

ALSO MY STRONGLY BELIEVE IS THAT WHEN A PERSON HAS ACCEPTED THE PROBLEM AND COMMITED TO SOLVE IT THE 60% OF THE PROBLEM IS SOLVED AT THAT TIME.

SUPPOSE WE NOT DID THIS MEETING AND IN THE COOMING FUTURE WE ARE DECIDING TO SOLVE THIS PROBLEM THIS WAS THE FIRST STEP TO DO AT THAT TIME, THAT WE DID TODAY.

SO IN ALL THE ASPECTS THIS WAS THE FIRST STEP WE HAVE TO APRICIATE THIS THING.

VINAY MANDAN

 


By VINAY VASUDEV MANDAN, PRODUCTION INCHARGE, RIGIDPAK CONTAINER'S LTD.  | 01 09 2010 22:59:45 +0000
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I THINK THIS IS THE FIRST GOOD STEP. BECAUSE WE IDENTIFIED A PROBLEM AND COMMITED TO SOLVE THIS. ALL THE HEADS ARE TOGETHER.

THIS IS THE WAY TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM, AND EVENTHOUGH WHEN EVER IN FUTURE WE START TO WORK ON THIS PROBLEM THIS WAS THE FIRST STEP THAT WE ALREADY DID.

SO I AM STRONGLY SUPPORT THIS. THIS IS A FIRST GOOD STEP.


By VINAY VASUDEV MANDAN, PRODUCTION INCHARGE, RIGIDPAK CONTAINER'S LTD.  | 01 09 2010 22:50:53 +0000
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It looks to me that it is First good step. In terms of legal binding its complete failure. But in terms of awareness it is 1st good step. Like India & China's step to migrate to BSIII & BSIV. Many private sector companies are coming with new idea. In coming days I am seeing that term "carbon footprint" will status symbol.

After 3-4 more try it will show result. 


By Mani Kant Mishra, SBU/Profit Center Head, FOR CLOSEED GROUP  | 01 09 2010 13:40:10 +0000
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Prashant well said I support you. I love the line which you have stated " Words need action to support them"  this best suits this issues. So there is no use of speaking we should do something to bring a change. :)

Thanks..... 


By Aarti Gupta, Legal Consultant  | 02 15 2010 10:19:32 +0000
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Global warming and it's propogation is a HUGE SHAM!! Please read ClimateGate. Here are a few links. This is going to make history of all time!!

http://www.climategate.com/

http://www.eastangliaemails.com/index.php

Let us not waste time on global warming anymore. The New York times has already reported this last month. Please read-up.

By Stephen O. Rajan, Technical Architect, Zenith Software Limited  | 01 25 2010 14:55:47 +0000
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The basic problem with the developed world is of confusion. They are not genuinely enagaged in resolving the problem.


By Mohammad Bakhsh, Consultant(Civil), Rail Vikas Nigam Limited  | 01 22 2010 06:57:49 +0000
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Vinay, we identified the problem long back but the meet was held recently. You mentioned that atleast  now they are speaking about this issue. But they did not come to a conclusion what to do to solve this problem. Then what is the use of conducting such meet where every head join together and not in a position to solve the issue.  


By Isha Verma, Sales/BD Manager, Larsen & Toubro  | 01 22 2010 06:17:03 +0000
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The complete failure is in the sense,that it has failed to evolve consensus.The debate was directed at the developing economy.The only silver lining it has left that developed economy has to ultimately adjust to the fast changing world economy.


By Mohammad Bakhsh, Consultant(Civil), Rail Vikas Nigam Limited  | 01 17 2010 03:54:09 +0000
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A good step is one to initiate resolution.The fact is that climate change is due to fast paced development of the developed countries.They have now realised ill effects of tranferred technology. The developed economy is on the other side of tropic cancer.The change will affect them primarily.It is therefore their bounden obligation to support developing economy by latest technology and fundings.Instead they disperse without resolution.In the sense,it was a total failure.


By Mohammad Bakhsh, Consultant(Civil), Rail Vikas Nigam Limited  | 01 12 2010 12:18:28 +0000
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the copenhagen summit in denmark failed to conclude a cost effective and feasible alternate energy solution to especially the developing and underdeveloped nations.

Those nations which still fight for their daily bread couldn't afford the big loan amount that the developed countries are offering and in turn becoming a country whose GDP was flowing to the hands of developed contries which will inturn make them more poorer than they already are.

Now coming to the global warming, the countries those depend coal as 90% of their energy source and who are running a V8 or V12 powered engines should control themselves before putting an argument to the other world.

One of the alternate solution put by America was shale oil which involves a very expensive and complex procedure for extracting the oil and the amazing fact is the world largest deposit was found in America at the Green river bed formation, which is greater than 3 times the oil deposit in saudi arabia.

Personally i believe in an argument said by a scientist that ' the climate is always changing and it will keep on changing and human has very little to do about and is not due to human'. In Antartica, which is in the picture of climate change, the climate is cooling up than heating up which is contrary to all arguments.


By sandeepspillai , Construction-Heavy, Al-Naboodah  | 01 12 2010 09:12:02 +0000
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I think this is not a good step because, Literally the so-called leaders of American Continent do not have any commitments from their side.

its like :I say,you do, you must do or else face the consequences, whereas the broader concept would be: Let us work for the green earth save movement, I as a leader will work and prove myself, then you follow my steps for a better world ; this would be good.

But, Alas the Morlds BIG BOSS Thinks that they are the Authortariants for any issue and others must obey.

This is not acceptable from everyone who has the will, wit and wisdom to do for a better business than bitter deed!


By keshava prasad, executive-EHS-BPS , MNC  | 01 10 2010 07:18:52 +0000
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The problem with developed countries in general and USA in particular is that they want to maintain their economic presence.The developing economy which is the resultant technical know-how of what they have supplied or dumped?.It is their own folly.No target is binding unless developed countries ease their purse to support the developing countries and they themselves fix the targets to reduce the pollution.In a way Copanhagen meet was a fiasco.


By Mohammad Bakhsh, Consultant(Civil), Rail Vikas Nigam Limited  | 01 10 2010 03:31:55 +0000
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this was a costly picnic which heads of states enjoyed coz no significant accord was reached, it was far away from stockholm conference...Words need Action to Support them
By Prashant Mali, President, Cyber Law Consulting  | 01 09 2010 08:13:51 +0000
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