i have worked in Syntel pvt ltd . and as i have seen there that the people who have done MBA and do the job that work is also done by the 12th pass out boys.... and one thing that in these days people can take degree without doing any coching...so i think the value of degree of B .TECH MBA like a patato and onion's cost.
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Shashi Bhushan Sharma, MBA at IBMR pune
| 12 02 2011 11:12:59 +0000
Purpose & Reason Are Important. Industry and business are least interested in length of degrees added to individual's name tag... their interest solely lies in how much an individual can earn for their entity and this is where relevance of simply collecting degrees without understanding of the subject gets somewhat exposed....
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Ravindra Sharma, Managing Consultant, CHEF-India
| 10 11 2011 03:15:17 +0000
i think it works both ways....the value of the degrees is lessened by the fact that these are relatively 'easily' accessible by the mushrooming of professional colleges; thanks to the govt policy. the youth for which it is aimed at get admission by paying good amount of money to the colleges and the pass out without necessary skills for the industry ( this is a significant number). with minimal infrastructure the colleges are imparting 'minimal' education..enough to pass the exam! on the other hand, we can not visualize someone getting a job in the industry without the requisite 'qualification'! there are no means employed to judge one's ability to perform...with or without 'the' qualification.
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Abhjit SIngh Pahwa, anesthesiologist, sps apollo hospital
| 10 09 2011 17:14:58 +0000
Yes they are loosing its value as there is so much competition around us and one has to deal with it on daily basis.
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anuradha , NECC Ltd.
| 10 02 2011 12:41:49 +0000
Agree Degrees are now becoming irrelevant..till you get the first job, degree is imp....but once you hit the floor, people look into what you do...not what you can... We see engineer working as finance executives, and all
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MANISH KUMAR, Business Analyst, ICICI Bank
| 10 02 2011 05:00:59 +0000
Ms Pi very well said I ditto your views.
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Rathin Deb, Advisor and retail consultant, currently as Branch Manager, Tower Infotech Ltd
| 09 22 2011 05:06:33 +0000
degree shows the qualification nd knowledge shows the intelligence so that degree has been overtaken by knowledge so any where degrees are loosing their value
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prachijindal , Pursuing MBA in Aviation management, Banasthali university
| 09 21 2011 16:47:46 +0000
They are valid upto entry point. After the entry skills take over.
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MS_Pi , Top Management, Confidential
| 09 21 2011 08:26:48 +0000
A Job is a Job, please do not undermine by saying that a 12th standard can do it. If you say this than you are the worst moron I have seen in my life. Engineering or medical studying students are more intelligent than the the students of Arts, Science, Commerce is not true. So, a 12th standard pass girl/boy can be more smarter than you, do not under estimate and compare. Break that jinx you have in your mind.When jobs are hard to come by, you need not say that as it will hurt the dignity of a person working in a BPO and other non-engineering jobs which are by mistakenly classified as Intelligent Jobs by our so-called ridiculous Indian society. For your reference- Read Japan and its work-force, how they compliment each other in doing their duties. Remember Japan...:)
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konkan SINGHA, business DEVELOPMENT, SpeechWareNet
| 09 07 2011 07:04:46 +0000
@Sheetal, (have seen BE grads taking BPO jobs because they do not get jobs in development fields.) Tell me one thing, do you think BPO jobs are very easy to get and anyone can apply for it. Do you know the word "DIGNITY", I don't think you know. Please do not undermine any kind of JOB as you should also paste this in your mind that this so-called BPO jobs are ensuring bread and butter to the needy. What have you seen? I have also seen Engineering Grads students wanting to work in the BPO, night shift, they like the ambiance and I also have friends, though Engineers by qualification but they wor in BPO's because they like to work in a BPO and can sustain their families. Okay it is not the issue altogether, I want to tell you one thing, since Jobs are less day by day, Fresh Grads are not considering to work in their respective fields as time is very less, pressure is building and the whole diaspora of Job world is shattered. For example UK collapses, Ireland, second largest Software manufacturing country bailed out., USA, Job cut, foreclosures are a daily scene.
I get resumes from the Silicon Valley every week looking for Jobs in India as they fear they will be laid off. they agree to whatever decent salary the company offers, they seems to be okay with it and do not offer to negotiate in terms of salary too but, they need a Job here in India to succeed and sustain their families.
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konkan SINGHA, business DEVELOPMENT, SpeechWareNet
| 09 07 2011 06:56:51 +0000
in this era, I believe that it is not the degree or the qualification that defines the quality of a person, but other skills such as personality, leadership, capability etc. I have seen people climb the ladder from being a cargo loader to the highest echlons of multinational companies!
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Levin Samuel, afrgsdf
| 09 06 2011 17:48:15 +0000
i have seen that in,on campus placements company also tries to average student not only topper ,because they give more preference to wide knowledge with good communication skills.
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prachijindal , Pursuing MBA in Aviation management, Banasthali university
| 08 23 2011 15:42:38 +0000
absolutely ur right sheetal.
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puneet , Manager Admin
| 08 23 2011 10:34:41 +0000
Our degree is only for showing purpose that I am graduate, but the fact is that we are nothing........if u compare and engineer graduated from iit and an engineer from private college u will know the difference...........if u r iit u r going to get job easily but if u have done it from other private institue u have to find ur own way.......and further quality of education is different at both the places......so which degree is having the value?
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abhijeethprasad , Testing Engineer (power transformer), vijai electricals limited
| 08 17 2011 16:51:35 +0000
I too thnk so. Degrees are loosing their values. When we see our elders even if they were secondary school pass but it had its value. It is also becos we are gvng too much emphasis on education and not its value. One must judge the other person other than marks on his/her talent, ability and interests too. That is more imp.
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anuradha , NECC Ltd.
| 08 14 2011 12:17:57 +0000
We do not have a robust education policy specially higher education nor do have a uniform standard for recruitment.Eligibility criteria varies from one company to another also from time to time. Every university awards Degrees but not a single university guarantee for a success in the undertaken course.
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Ranjeet Kumar, Mech. Engg,Kurukshetra University
| 08 13 2011 18:30:33 +0000
Dear Sheetal, Thanks for referring this debate to me. To an extent I am in agreement with you that the degrees and qualifications are loosing their importance, but just spotting problem would not help. If we try finding the cause there are mainly two reasons which are leading to this scenario 1 - Educational courses are loosing relevance with the available career streams and at the same time there is a lot imbalance between the demand and availability of Human resource...
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Prassan Kumar Sharma, Content Writer and Domain Consultant, FREELANCER
| 08 13 2011 14:31:06 +0000
Though i agree with you generally, i disagree on one point - todays recruiters dont know to spot talent, they take it easy and go the referal route. Even in a company if there is someone very senior to recommend you to HR, then you could land the job inspite of not being fit for it. This is the sad reality of today !
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Jaygopal Raghavan, Marketing Manager, Landmark Group
| 08 12 2011 17:23:17 +0000
yes, actually i don't know much because i still in learning process and have to face companies in the commencing year.
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pragati parihar, MBA/PGDM student, banasthali university,jaipur
| 08 06 2011 13:57:02 +0000
Sheetal you are 100% correct. At least that is what I feel.
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PRANJAL SARMA, SUPERINTENDING ENGINEER (MECHANICAL), ONGC
| 08 06 2011 13:11:36 +0000
Big YES @ limit
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manish , My a/c is not showing ..help toostep
| 08 05 2011 18:33:10 +0000
Today, degrees are just window dressing!! Most of my colleagues in other organizations go by their gut feeling and not by the wad of paper that some candidates. Today with all those scams and examination hoaxes one needs to be really in the know of the weight of an institution and the value of its degree. Now it is how much assurance can the recruiter derive from your profile and personality. By the way the new ops manager in an associate company is a Kendriya Vidyalaya schooled rural graduate holding his own in the ivy league.
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Capt. V.S. Kartik, CEO/MD
| 08 04 2011 15:45:42 +0000
i too believe that judgeing a person only by his/her Degree is completely incorrect. There r people who have smthing in born qualities like creativity, intelligence etc. why don't we recognize that..
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anuradha , NECC Ltd.
| 08 04 2011 07:54:49 +0000
ya Sheetal I also agree with you and thanks for referrel . You said the exect thing but sometime when a candidatd interviewd the candidate with degree can't answer the question. The education level in Pvt. colleges also decrease and they are producing the only degree student, not the technical engineers and professionals.
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Jagdeep Ohlan, Engineer Maintenance, ACPL
| 08 04 2011 07:52:41 +0000
Yes you are correct now a days talent values more though degree is necessary coz with talent degree is also required for any sort of jobs, so both are valuable
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Seema , Partner/Principal/VP, Angel Associates
| 08 04 2011 06:59:55 +0000
Sheetal every thing said and done formal qualification is required. I think talent and qualification are two different things and if matches perfectly on anybody sky is the limit. There is probably a shortage of openings and in order to earn people with varied qualification are taking up small time job.
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Rathin Deb, Advisor and retail consultant, currently as Branch Manager, Tower Infotech Ltd
| 08 04 2011 04:38:35 +0000
The examples of Rahul Dravid and Anil Kumble are highest in our minds!!! Engineers in their own qualifcations but better known for being Cricketing greats!! What would you do with your skills if your qualification was to be an Engineer in some MNC or Technical brand??
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Makrand Bhave, AGM - Corporate Business, E18, part of Network 18 Group
| 08 04 2011 03:03:38 +0000
All that I have received from the corporate world, and gained from the market, has come to me because of my ideas, and ability to discuss huge domain of subjects, not my qualifications. (Although a Double masters, I prefer not showcasing the paperwork of my profile, rather the knowledge i possess. it builds a stronger rapport)
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Sujeet Vishwakarma, Managing Director, RCA Group
| 08 03 2011 15:49:05 +0000
U R Right, the mafd rush and crowd is making the things difficult. Earlier there were lesser Institutions for Technical/Professional knowledge and there out put was being consumed in the market easily and those requiring better opportunities and higher returns were going abroad. But the things changed with time as greed for quick money and donations etc attracted more and more Institutions and Government put no check on quality and quantity . The things became difficult and now even the Institutions are not getting students.
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PRITHVI RAJ DUBEY, Managing Director, RAJ ENGINEERING INDUSTRIES PVT LTD
| 08 03 2011 13:46:29 +0000
Sheetal I agree with you..... after all the extra curicullar activity play's vital role in carrier shaping.
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Rajesh Jain, Pharmaceuticals Mfg.
| 08 03 2011 12:43:06 +0000
we may get better entry due to qualifications but future depends on our talent only
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Vidhu Dar, CEO/MD/Director, Shiva's Retreat
| 08 03 2011 12:24:05 +0000
In a way yes! Degree and Qualification is giving way to SKILLS! Skill sets that can define the KRA of a person in a given working area are looked into more than the degree and qualifications. Obviously this is not applicable to the tech sector at all. Its in the service oriented industry that these liberties are being taken!! Thanks Sheetal
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Makrand Bhave, AGM - Corporate Business, E18, part of Network 18 Group
| 08 03 2011 11:41:27 +0000
Yeah, they are. Quality of degrees are degrading day by day. Engineers are working as constables in my department, MBAs are working as clerks. There is no dearth for opportunities in the market. But, those who prove themselves can only get the opportunity.
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Srinivas suravajhala, Asst. Manager.
| 08 03 2011 11:40:16 +0000
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not so..degree open the door of enterance of a good organisation and help you in geeting a good position in the organisation.........if you had done it in a good manner
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Anuranjan Kumar Mishra, Script writter, Hammar TV,patna
| 12 02 2011 10:31:49 +0000
Every qualification is valuable and useful to some industry
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Eng. Aziz Tariq, SBU/Profit Center Head, Manazel Al Ain Mercure
| 10 06 2011 20:24:31 +0000
Its not degree losing its value..its about the degree holders with zero skill losing their opportunity, now a days students are only bothered about campus placements but are not determined to improve their skills.Another reason is they take up courses which they are not sure...they only want to become an engineer,doctor or an MBA, only bcoz their parents force them to be ,they miserably fail in recognizing the right talent in them.
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RAHULR , Senior Software Engineer, M/s Clarence Technologies
| 10 06 2011 18:38:41 +0000
upto some extent you can say yes because nowadays company using to educated people only in those fields where company feel requirement of them..whether they are completely related to them or not. but i also would like to share that it's upton you that how you can use your qualification to bright your future....thanks
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CMA Dinesh Singh Adhikari, Assistant Manager - Costing
| 10 06 2011 08:19:04 +0000
every qualification is valuable and useful to some industry,unfortunately both candidates and industries look for best candidates /organizations instead of right fit.
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Vivek Kumar Srivastava, Competence development Manager-Global Services , NSN
| 09 06 2011 10:29:23 +0000
College degree or a qualification that is achieved through hard work always has its own value,because it has added value to you as a person.
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Uday B.Mhatre, Proprietor, MIPL
| 09 06 2011 06:36:37 +0000
If you ADD VALUE to your education, it never looses its value. If you just buy a Degree, then there is NO Value in the Degree. There is more in What you give/ add than what you take!
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Paul James, Job Consultant, ESS
| 08 05 2011 12:23:35 +0000
An educational qualification would never lose its value. The reason why people are today opting for jobs other than their basic qualifications are many,.. the one most important one being that they have not developed skill sets necessary to be able to fit into a job profile based on the qualification. An engineer working in a BPO is probably because he would not have developed skill sets necessary to be recruited as an engineer! Organizations today are looking at what a candidate brings to the table beyond the obvious degree, how one would perform under stress, what soft skills have been developed, what kind of analytical prowess he has and so on. Another main reason that comes to the fore is that most students today do not have any inkling of why they are ding a particular course and what are the prospects on completion. Decisions are mostly taken based on what is perceived to be the best course today, without realising that it might or might not be the best once they complete (2-5 years hence) This is very sad and also surprising given the fact that today tons of information is available on any subject and one needs to understand and probably look for a mentor who would be able to guide in the right direction. However, the point to be remembered is that if you have the a qualification, the right attitude and an understanding of what to expect, there is no reason for you to be doing any job other than what you are cut out for.
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Inderpal Singh, Director - Academics and Admissions, MILE - Management Institute for Leadership and Excellence
| 08 04 2011 08:26:21 +0000
Hey Sheetal, its not completely true. Our qualification is the first thing the recruiters see when they look for candidates and filter who do not match. May be as Markand said its not true with all sectors but only in some service oriented jobs. The Education background is of prime importance in anyones career. Some people would be in irrelevant jobs because they might not have right skills of fall short of required standard.
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Vijaya P, Internal Sales, Endress + Hauser
| 08 04 2011 05:50:26 +0000
No,sheetal,degrees and qualificatios are still valued.Whatever,you posseses is due to formal education.
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Mohammad Bakhsh, Consultant(Civil), Rail Vikas Nigam Limited
| 08 04 2011 04:18:41 +0000
ppl widout degrees n qulaificns wil think like this!!
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neha singh, Content Editor, Avestia Corp
| 08 03 2011 15:34:05 +0000
hello Sheetal,degrees and qualifications are not losing any values in reality instead there is a big failure in recognizing it and presenting it.bcoz of this attitude degress are becoming just for namesake and nobody is interested in knowing or testing that particular person with any appropriate degree is fully knowledged regarding the subject or not.
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jairaj shyam prasad, Production Manager, BOSCH Ltd
| 08 03 2011 14:52:41 +0000
Not really, organization look for the combination of degree + talent. Nowdays, company dont look for the certification. Many company is adopting policy of "hire talent, not qualification". Degree is also first step toward candidates career path, but after all your talent, your experience & of learnability is going to take you to next level.
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Jatin Kacha, .Net & SQL Tech. Leader
| 08 03 2011 11:57:45 +0000
No, the major one factor is that we are facing high job turnover ration and it gives negative impact in market. Therefore, we are perceiving that the value of degree is going down. Today, market is became tough,highly competitive but it does not means that there is no value of degree. To reach at top management , you will require good degree, post graduate because it give many advantages to organization. Due to the negative impact in market, this is happening otherwise you will not find such things before 4-5 years. It was going good...Thanks Sheetal for referal
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Virag Shah, Confidential
| 08 03 2011 11:51:31 +0000
It is not the case for everybody, as there are ample of opprtunities are available in the service sector. Thanks for referral, Sheetal.
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SHRIKANT MANOHAR DANKE, Project Manager, Phadnis Infrastructur Ltd
| 08 03 2011 11:15:50 +0000
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