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Topic : Perception--- THE ENEMY WITHIN
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Created by : Dinesh Arora, Web Analytic, Hindustan Times  | 05 30 2010 09:53:32 +0000
Industry : Human Resources (HR) Consulting
Keywords : boss grow female
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Yes why not?

If female boss got promotion then she will act as a boss. if female subordinate is better than male then obviously she would promote her. Same with male bosses. What do you think that if female subordinate is not doing well even then male boss will promote her. NO. And one more exception in sales field.

In short, In professional world you can't desire from your boss as per your thinking. Your boss is your boss in organization. He or She can't take abnormal decision only depends on the sex matter because it would harm them... Yeah but out of two similar subordinate male or female, Male boss prefer the female because in India "LADIES FIRST" rule is still applicable.


By Vipin Bhasin, Private Equity/Hedge Fund/VC-Manager, Indian Investment Co.  06 01 2010 18:49:14 +0000
 
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No female employees not grows very well working under the female bosses in comparing to working with the male bosses. It will be little funny to say but it is there, that somewhere opposite sex feelings works better for the employees. Opposite sex use to appreciate your work more than the same sex. So in my opinion they may not grow more working under the female bosses
By Krishna Bhardwaj, Lyrics Writer, Freelancer  05 30 2010 12:02:20 +0000
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may be but contra more grow up
By bharat , Legal Consultant/Solicitor, bharatkumar lawyer  | 03 03 2011 04:44:09 +0000
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Yes and I'm a living proof.
By Rashmi A Cuellar, Fit Specialist/Sales, Foot Solutions  | 03 02 2011 02:55:50 +0000
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Yes, female employees can grow working under female bosses. Your performance counts for growth rather than who is the boss. So concentrate on the performance and growth would follow.
By Vijaya P, Internal Sales, Endress + Hauser  | 03 01 2011 14:56:09 +0000
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If you have ability you can work under anyone and can grow anywhere.
By Nilesh Pawar, Legal & Secretarial, Valencia Professional & Management Services LLP  | 03 01 2011 12:24:08 +0000
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This is a wrong question. it should be - Do female bosses allow female subordinates to succeed over them ?. Because career growth is an individual problem, not his/her boss's headache.
By Basil Cheriyamadathil, IT Specialist ( System Testing ), Genting Malaysia Berhad  | 11 26 2010 10:08:31 +0000
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I think this issue of male and female should not enter in to the organization not even in public places. That will be better for all of us however what i was saying i know very difficult or almost impossible to happen. but that will be good if we treat each other as human.
By Nitin Mehra, Software Developer, ROBOMAN MICROSYSTEMS  | 11 19 2010 09:28:44 +0000
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yes definitely,i think there must be no question about gender.....if anyone is  honest towards his/her job then it will not affect them whoevr  is their boss ............talent is must for every success...work is worship....


By Riya Bhati, B.B.A student, Institute of Technology & Management,Gurgaon  | 11 09 2010 06:54:10 +0000
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Ya they do to a certain extent. It also depends on the industry. I have come across cases where business heads allow subordinates to grow till they are a threat. There are industries like media and mass communication where cut throat competition and sheer need of networking does not support the argument.

So it is all the more necessary in general for all and especially for female employees to be in good books of the next superior !!


By Simit Desai, Client Servicing/Key Account Manager, Larsen & Toubro  | 06 09 2010 01:50:20 +0000
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Gender harmony works best among women and they always promote each other sidelining males


By Nikhil , Senior Manager, Insurance  | 06 08 2010 11:16:10 +0000
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Growth has nothing to do with gender if somebody is talented and hard working he/she would grow does not matter whether they work under male/female bosses.
By Sanjay Jat, HR Operations Manager, Bharti Airtel  | 06 04 2010 04:24:04 +0000
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Yes if female subordinates are good in working then she will grow more than male, whatever the boss will be male or female....


By monika arora, Freelancer, ITES / BPO / Customer Service  | 06 01 2010 18:58:18 +0000
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I don't  think it matters whether you have male boss or female boss.

Growing up in any profession depends on once personality..how well he/she performs and use the skills to resolve issues..


By Jyotsana Patil, Trainee, The Larvol Group,LLC  | 06 01 2010 03:31:48 +0000
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hmmmm
By naufal t basheer, CIVIL DRAUGHTSMAN, S&K ARCHITECTS  | 05 31 2010 14:10:47 +0000
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I donot think it does matter a lot whether your boss is male or female.A boss who has the qualities of a good boss anybody feels free and proud to be his/her employee.If your hard work and sincerity to work counts u will get time and space to develop yourself and to serve your organisation the better way.A boss who is a good human being counts not by his gender.
By Pragati Pradhan, Assistant Professor, College  | 05 31 2010 13:04:38 +0000
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ya because she is not jealousy i think so
By Bindu.M , Direct Marketing Executive, Tricube Marketing India Pvt Ltd  | 05 31 2010 12:08:00 +0000
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Male or Female boss does not make any sense to grow the employee..  It depends on performance..  Performance is the main criteria to grow a employee...


By Saibal Ganguly, Executive Secretary to CEO-Enterprise Business, Reliance Communication  | 05 31 2010 11:53:16 +0000
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They have no long life, just use n throw .
By omveerchouhan , Accessory Designer, clay craft india ltd  | 05 31 2010 11:41:56 +0000
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It's depending up on us only . dosn't matter of gender. it's depending up on our skills and our charecter and our guts.as my experience male boss supports female many times .
By Hareesh. Devina, Phlebo Incharge, Olive Hospitals  | 05 31 2010 10:46:21 +0000
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depends upon the guts of the herself weather boss is male or female
By Manoj Kumar Poonia, M.Pharma (Pharmacology), NMIMS University, Mumbai  | 05 31 2010 09:48:43 +0000
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yes of course..i think females are good leaders as they have great balancing skills
By mansee , counselling psychologist, nalanda public school  | 05 31 2010 09:38:41 +0000
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There is no male or female boss, everyone boss should be a leader to help his/her employees to grow. There is nothing that a female should work under a male boss to grow......

I think a female employee  can grow more under a female boss because then can be more open and friendly.......  :)   


By Dipika Das, Associate/Sr. Associate -(NonTechnical), ABC Consultants Private Limited  | 05 31 2010 09:26:25 +0000
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No. There is reverse discrimination amongst female bosses for their lady employees, Maybe the attitude "I am special, I can manage a job and a family, do justice to both. But You ?"
By V. Srinivas, Freelancer, Information Technology  | 05 30 2010 14:19:01 +0000
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I do not think so but still i heard from some of my friend that they are not getting required support and growth from their boss


By Dinesh Arora, Web Analytic, Hindustan Times  | 05 30 2010 09:53:32 +0000
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If the boss is female, the female employees would be more comfortable sharing their problems with the boss. The boss in turn would be able to understand the needs of her female employees and get the work done better.
By Shweta S, Senior Manager - Client Relations and Recruitment, Professional Marketing Services  | 07 07 2011 05:56:05 +0000
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First We have to understand you are talking about personality, professional or overall growth. Well I Think What matter is the approach of the person of its own. Who ever is the boss either male or female, old or young who will have the right approach will grow.


By Nitin Mehra, Software Developer, ROBOMAN MICROSYSTEMS  | 03 01 2011 20:23:13 +0000
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I think debate topic should not be for growth of working it should be only for working.
By Vinod kumar, MBA (Finance) student, Punjab College of Technical Education  | 03 01 2011 15:02:29 +0000
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No, A wo,man's enemy is an another woman. Simple - so you cannot expect another growth. very rare do you see like minded female employees working and applauding each other
By Apeksha , IT/Technical Editor,  | 11 26 2010 07:49:06 +0000
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I don't think so that a female employee can grow only under female bosses. It depends upon the person whom you are associated with. If the boss is flexible enough and give space for thegrowth of his.her subordinates it doesn't matter whether you have a female or a male boss. many a times it might happen that a female boss would not want a female employee to grow as her employee would prove to be better than her in some aspects.
By KRITI A BHATNAGAR, HR Executive  | 11 19 2010 09:15:31 +0000
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I have seen female employees growing like anything under the boss depending on their flirting ability.
By Joe Antony, Retail Sales and Marketing, JSW Steel Limited  | 11 19 2010 08:48:32 +0000
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No, due to simple rule , as there is attraction between opposite ends & repulsion in same. This law is applicable in this case.
By SHRIKANT MANOHAR DANKE, Project Manager, Phadnis Infrastructur Ltd  | 11 19 2010 07:10:24 +0000
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no never


By kamlesh raval, Freelancer, FMCG/Foods/Beverage  | 11 09 2010 10:13:15 +0000
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I dont think, there is discrimination on gender in India. Quality of work will surely give you the lift you deserve wherever you work. If it is the question of getting favouritism, its the male bosses may give extra notch to the females working under them with the reasons best known to them. Sorry, if I am sounding differently.
By Srinivas suravajhala, Asst. Manager.  | 11 09 2010 07:12:39 +0000
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I dont think, there is discrimination on gender in India. Quality of work will surely give you the lift you deserve wherever you work. If it is the question of getting favouritism, its the male bosses may give extra notch to the females working under them with the reasons best known to them. Sorry, if I am sounding differently.
By Srinivas suravajhala, Asst. Manager.  | 11 09 2010 07:12:20 +0000
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No, hehehe :) It is same like magnetism property - Same pole repel each other, opposite pole attract each other.
By Chandra shekhar, Technical Writer/Quality Assurance, CMMI 3 Software Company, Hyderabad  | 11 09 2010 07:10:57 +0000
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No, A women's enemy is another women as goes the popular saying.So even if an woman employee is capable, she will be not be given her due credit if one of the hierarchial managers is a women, the woman employee will be down played by her female boss. Why not- Women thy name is insecure and selifish and manipulative.


By Apeksha , IT/Technical Editor,  | 07 01 2010 07:40:02 +0000
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Female Bosses have too much ego and they always favor the men and sidetrack women at work!! they are very bias


By kamlesh raval, Freelancer, FMCG/Foods/Beverage  | 06 09 2010 17:19:42 +0000
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Now a days there is no difference between male & female employees. Employees should grow based on there abilities & hard work.
By Sharad Pachapurkar, Freelancer, Management & Strategy Consulting  | 06 08 2010 19:13:46 +0000
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Dear Miss, this will make no difference in growth aspect. If the boss and subordinate are opposite sex, then there is something to tell . Otherwise, their attitude matters. A phychologist told that generally women are possessive and self-centred. But my personal experience is not accepting this.


By Venugopal K, AM ( Lean tools), SPB Limited  | 06 08 2010 16:48:23 +0000
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It is a mith.Women are in general anti-women.They can be better bosses/subordinates with men. Males can be handled by understanding their ego which women can handle whweras jealousy rules relations between women which cannot be controlled by a women boss. Inherentally women wish to project that they are better off than any other woman
By VINOD KUMAR VENAIK, Manager -(NonTechnical), PNB  | 06 08 2010 11:37:56 +0000
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I fully agree with Mr. Sanjay Jat. Growth depends both on the boss as well as the employee.
By kaveri hazarika, Project Officer, Numaligarh Refinery Limited  | 06 04 2010 05:25:13 +0000
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Thanks for the referral Dipika, but I couldn't support to you because

The REALITY is that working for female bosses is a living Hell, and even my female Feminist friends openly admit that they that female bosses are a nightmare, and they would much prefer to work for a man.
Women usually treat other women like crap. Most women can't stand to have women bosses. Somehow it doesn't seem as bad having a woman boss when you are a man. Women must learn to accept responsibility if they are to be taken seriously as bosses.
Men leave their home life at home, where females seem to bring their homelife into the workplace. A male boss for me.

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By Vinay kumar Pusarla, Manager- Formulations, A Leading pharma company  | 06 03 2010 10:47:18 +0000
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well i don't think so because it doesn't make any difference whatsoever if you are a professional, and have a passion for the work you do.

besides never seen two women acting out for each other

there is always a cold war kind of situation between them. more reasons to argue with each other than to co-operate with


By Sama Asif, BD Manager, infonet softech  | 06 03 2010 10:16:44 +0000
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there is nothing like male or female only talented or not capable or not that is the thong that matters
By Moparthi Sai Ramya Sree, Software Developer, Virtusa (India)  | 06 03 2010 04:48:40 +0000
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This may be a subject matter of a research or a research-work for a PhD. If female subordinates/ employees/ staff do not come out with their experiences, we may not get an idea.

In an ideal situation, some positions like Boss, CEO, Chair-person, Leader, Mentor etc may not have "gender identity".Thus, such a question becomes redandand and may not be taken up for discussions.


By ASOKE KUSARI, Domestic Private Banking-Executive/Manager, A large leading PSU Bank - India  | 06 02 2010 18:47:22 +0000
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Here comes again a debate based on gender. Why we have to differntiate our boss based on whether he is male or female. Concentrate on your work, Show your boss that you are competant enough, irrespevtive of male or female.


By Manoj Kumar, Sr: Manager - QA, ARCHETYPE GROUP, INDIA  | 06 01 2010 16:35:49 +0000
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Practically, it does not work. It sounds strange but yes have to accept the reality.  There is 30-20% of growth chances with the female boss.


By Sharu Grover, Commercial Assistant, Department of Commerce  | 06 01 2010 13:05:51 +0000
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Rare woman can see the success of other woman.


By snehal mohitkar, Freelancer, Hospitals  | 06 01 2010 05:19:59 +0000
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it depepend upon who is your boss


By dr.rajendra , physician, self  | 06 01 2010 04:35:03 +0000
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As I practically seen that no female boss give a chance to grow female employee bcoz she feels insecure with another female.why?I don't no.
By avinash bidwe, Medical Rep., medical company(synergy)  | 05 31 2010 18:44:53 +0000
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Nidhi : This is what I had exactly said . A female has restrictions under her own gender while under a male she grows beyond her shoes .


By S. Jayaraman, Freelancer, FMCG/Foods/Beverage  | 05 31 2010 17:15:12 +0000
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Unfortunately  NO. The chemistry does not gel together . Basically a man feels proud when he helps his opposite gender to ascend and proclaims as his rate of success , while female to female the ego always works and in practical experience I have never seen two female colleagues grow together as a boss and assistant . In a girl's school near my vicinity I ve seen the HM sticking to rules rather than accommodating when became a boss . There was an all Ladies Branch of a nationalized bank in Kolkata which never succeded owing to internal bickering .  Even I do not think Indira of Pepsi, Kochar of ICICI Bank have immediate female colleagues. It  is the great sense of uncertainity which prevents a female to promote another female . In politics too its no exception . Maywati do not have a female minister nor do I can recall our own Indira Gandhi had any minister of stature under her .  So very naturally a female always prefers to works under a male boss simply because the amount of leg space they provide in their work environment and the instant acknowledgement they get .


By S. Jayaraman, Freelancer, FMCG/Foods/Beverage  | 05 31 2010 17:09:13 +0000
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boss always want best efforts/good results from his employes either of males /females.but, female bosses could not control over female employes. female oss will give some favour for some female employe, male boss doesnt like that.
By ramumatcha , je, awho  | 05 31 2010 15:06:00 +0000
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I do not think it really matters. There are good bosses and not so good bosses. Women communicate more but that is not necessarily  a substitute for good organizational skills and leadership. There is a feeling of friendliness with a female boss but this does not last over a long period.

I personally prefer any boss who is smart, not prone to mood swings and is confident in his or her abilities and can take suggestions and thinks things through.

 


By SUGGANTH DANIEL, Pathology Resident, Columbia University  | 05 31 2010 14:48:17 +0000
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MMMM... I do not really agree that females grow under female bosses only. Yes, females do make good bosses but it is not necessary that females grow under females only. Learning is only a matter of realization.... As soon as one realizes that one needs to learn, learning begins...


By Aditi Sharma, MBA/PGDM student, Sri Sharada Institute of Indian Management - Research  | 05 31 2010 13:35:16 +0000
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I totally second your thought!!


By Nidhi Sehgal, Sr. Account Executive, Saatchi & Saatchi X  | 05 31 2010 12:52:11 +0000
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I think no...cuz female employee hv the jealous factor...


By Sangam Kudal, Mechanical Engineer- SKH Sheetmetal Components, Ranjangaon  | 05 31 2010 11:50:17 +0000
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i dont think sucess depends on bosses.if u ve talent and skill u ll b suceesful..
By DR NILSH ASWAR, Gynaecologist, MAHER HOSPITAL  | 05 31 2010 11:48:42 +0000
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It does not matter, who the boss is.In my 40 years of working experinces, I have concluded- 'BOSS IS ALWAYS RIGHT' whether male or female.
By R N Bhattacharyya, Freelancer, Freelancer  | 05 31 2010 11:36:18 +0000
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No its not true for all the cases as per my perception women learn much better under male seniors as they are much more inclined towards imparting their knowledge as compared to there female counterpart.

Jealousy is mainly responsible for this .A women could be a good tutor for male and vice versa as there is less jealousy in opposite genders.


By RAJIV KUMAR, EXECUTIVE-KEY & CORPORATE ACCOUNT, Sanofi-aventis  | 05 31 2010 10:49:58 +0000
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I know its difficult to digest but its a fact that females are more jealous with females and its become untolerable for a female employe to bear her female boss. Idea conflict, ego, beauty etc are some of the many factors which female employes would hate in her female bosses. Even it becomes difficult to convince to a female boss rather than convincing the male boss.


By R , ABC, ABC  | 05 31 2010 10:42:51 +0000
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i hv seen the other way round,there is less bossing and more growth under a male boss


By dr hirendra kumar, Freelancer, allergy and asthma clinic  | 05 31 2010 10:24:44 +0000
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Gender...gender...gender... I dont know when we all came out of this discussion!!! This fight is from the day of life existance, and no conclusion. Still discussion is in progress. Skill is personal not gender specific. Its like asking a question who help kid to grow better..mom or Dad? Employee grows better based on its own inter/intra personal skills and with the help of organization and his team(including his lead/boss). There is 4 different personality: 1. Dominant 2. Influtential 3. Steady 4. Compliant A person (male/female) falls in one of these category or mix of any two. Lets accept each individual personality than digging deep into gender biasism...
By Santosh Kumar, Product Technical Lead  | 05 31 2010 09:56:18 +0000
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With a small precedent .. http://in.news.yahoo.com/240/20100504/1301/twl-7544223_1.html
By D.O. Kaviyanathan, Private Attorney/Lawyer, M/s. Nathan and Associates  | 05 31 2010 09:52:37 +0000
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Female Bosses have too much ego and they always favor the men and sidetrack women at work!! they are very bias


By Nidhi Sehgal, Sr. Account Executive, Saatchi & Saatchi X  | 05 31 2010 09:43:50 +0000
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No female employ not grown under female boss of ego.


By Mahender , Auditer, Onecertasia Ltd  | 05 31 2010 09:36:43 +0000
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