Build your professional network on facebook via our app Go to app
 
<< Prev  3 of 51 in Topic  Next >>
Topic : Leading and Managing People
  Rate : 
Posted in Community :

HR Professionals

 
Created by : Gargi Sinha, Senior Consultant, Hewitt Associates  | 12 20 2008 07:17:01 +0000
Industry : Human Resources (HR) ConsultingFunctional Area : Change Management(People Management)
Activity:  1301 views;  last activity : 07 06 2010 20:18:09 +0000
As there is economic crisis that is happening and which is affecting every industry that one knows and due to this there is huge layoff's that's one is seeing nowadays, so what should as a HR manager  should they keep the present workforce  by training them or should they layoff?? what are your views on this.
 
 Refer 23
Share
 
 
  Rate : 
 
 
Layoffs Vs Training
13
 
 
 
 
30
10
17
Support   Support
Top Argument
2
0

When there's no enough cash flow that HR couldn’t prefer training rather than layoffs. Economy slumped and everyone is aware of it. And I hope that it will not destroy the morale of workers. I imagine that they could understand the present scenario. Before we head layoffs HR should have plan A and plan B and should know how to execute it as well.


By Raju Ramalingam, Business Analyst, Rhytha Web Solutions  01 24 2009 20:46:09 +0000
 
Top Argument
8
0

We can train our employee and enhance them to use them in various sectors to get  more revenue which will be cheaper them hiring new one

it will improve the loyality and moral of old employee as well as keep the companies value higher.

you might think training will cost more well before that think about those new hiring and their training expenditures.


By Sanjib Kumar Jena, Assistant Professor - HR & PLACEMENT COORDINATOR, GITA  01 31 2009 18:35:11 +0000
0
0
Lay offs is the best thing Eg One employee performs 100% other person performs 75 % other 40% 1 &2 Can be considerd ... Not the Third one
By Hemachandiran , HR Executive  | 03 20 2010 06:03:13 +0000
1
0

Your question itself has an answer.Why didn't you asked " What is the best options to surive the company in recession - If not layoffs,then what instead of training.For example-Transfer,Demotion,No-salary hike,Cutting extra benefits or perks etc..?Why do company think of Layoffs,why don't they work on some other tools.

I'll strongly argue that company layoffs their employees to save their cost and maximise their profit.HR person are just mediator of chiefs and they don't have say in continuties of employee.Why layoff doesn't start from HR department,Why generally start from sales,marketing,Finance,logistic,etc..department. Every good company have APPRAISAL Sysytem annually.Why appraisal is only done by seniors,if an employee works and co-ordinates with several department.Their should be lots of strong reason to layoffs.TRAINIG doesn't suits to many HR & chiefs when cost cutting issues comes.It doesn't give you result on sales or profit graph immediately.BUT LAYOFF DOES.  Companies play dual game with job aspirants/employee.Employees are interviewed & re-checked by reference & others detective means and post satisfaction they offer job.When slowdown comes they start layoff and hire MULTIPLE of employees at very lower salary.

Excellent example: One of the major IT company in DELHI NCR region.They ask employee to work for 4 days instead of 5 days a week and pay them as per 4 days.Gradually,if person is not performing well thenafter asked to come 3days ,2days a weeks.Henceforth,making employee feel as non-performer or giveback appropriate result. This give tremendous help to employee rather getting sudden blow of NO JOB rather then SLOW out-of the Job.

There're multiple of Retail & Other companies coming up monthly list of Pink slip employee.As a result Entire day & night employee have nightmare.Do HR people still think of Training & making employee more job specific.

regards,

Rajeev jha

 


By Rajeev K Jha, India Head - Permits & Liaisoning  | 06 26 2009 08:27:02 +0000
1
0

Purely from an HR perspective - Yes!

Whenever there is a 'cash crunch' the senior management always takes a hard look at 'how many?' people and is it really necessary? The axe falls om people all the time because the most physical thing to do is to reduce work force! I feel that training st such times is not the 'solution' at all. Its the ROI that matters.

Penny saved is a penny earned! Getting old trained people back is out of question because as such these personnel would be prone to 'negotiate better' than what they are already getting and that would land the organisation in more deep waters than required! Yes, training helps people realise the seriousness of the situation and perform accordingly, but if the organisation is looking to save as mush then 'layoffs' are necessary. The snowball effect of such an action would be that not only is the investment on the person being saved, but the organisation also saves on costs like perks, travelling expenses, bonuses etc!


By Makrand Bhave, Marketing & MICE, WIZCRAFT International  | 05 02 2009 04:49:42 +0000
1
0

Laying off and then, if necessary, hiring previously trained staff.


By Ahmed Sultan, ITC, Airline Consultant  | 05 01 2009 18:29:06 +0000
1
0

We should see ' lay off ' not in isolation but we must see it as a strategic decision that organisation takes as a last resort.

Training is a continuous process and it definitely increases the KSA of the employees of the organisation but we should not forget that at the the time of recession, the problem to the company is demand slowdown , decresing revenue and profit. Thus company has to take cost cutting steps in order to stay affloat in the business. and Lay off in one of such decision.

the cost involve in the training is not a small amount so if it is necessary to give training at the time of recession give it to the innovator or the employees who have been generating profit for the organization to increase their efficiency..


By Dipayan Sarkar, Student , Siva Sivani Institute of Management  | 03 28 2009 06:02:31 +0000
1
0

Being in a risky position where we could be one of the victims of lay offs, we tend to forget that no company would directly opt for laying off its employees. No employer would want to waste the time/ money and several other resources invested in bringing the quality of its workforce to its current level to save a few pennies today. I think any company that decides to sack people must be in serious trouble of existence, beacuse i think layoffs are the last resort for survival.


By Sonal Gokhale, HR Executive, PSPL  | 03 24 2009 05:53:39 +0000
1
0

In this recession phase, cost cutting is bound to happen and different companies have different ways to implement it.

But doing cost cutting in the form of Lay off's is too serious a step because we are loosing the most precious resource thats human resource. Any company which takes this drastic measure must have gone through all other ways of saving its finances and eventually landed on lay off's. Also training can only be useful if it manifests in some kind of job that needs to be done. In this phase where the market is slag and there is no business this training may not even be of any use if the company has no business or projects where it can divert the newly trained workforce.

Inspite of suppporting the fact that training should be given before laying off, this is something that the time calls for.


By Sonal Gokhale, HR Executive, PSPL  | 03 18 2009 03:04:45 +0000
0
0

with so many discussions that is going on the debate is more towards tilting at training, but then with still the economy still looking rather gloomy, even if HRs prefer for training, but company will go for layoffs, so i still believe it is better to go for layoff than training, but i thank all who have shared their views, as this gave me an insight from people from various organizations.


By Gargi Sinha, Senior Consultant, Hewitt Associates  | 03 12 2009 11:18:59 +0000
1
0
According to me in the present scenario one will go for layoffs than the training program which will cost more for a company, where every company is trying to cut cost, one can't see investing in training and retaining the employees, so to me layoffs is better than training...

By Gargi Sinha, Senior Consultant, Hewitt Associates  | 12 20 2008 07:17:01 +0000
0
0

Training is the best way to keep the existing employers to well versed with new technologies and method, than recruiting new, they will take time to settle in any company for couple of months, we will be wasiting time. The same time can be used and we can groome the existing and such employers will have faith and belief in the existing company.


By Rajabharatari S Lagali, Customer Service Representative, Vxceed Technologies LLC  | 03 25 2010 11:33:17 +0000
0
0
I prefer training is very important because training is the way to reduce layoffs. Its required to make the organization more effective & efficient!
By SNEHA SINHA, Executive - Advertisement, Images Consumer media  | 11 14 2009 07:05:51 +0000
0
0
BY DOING SO WE EVEN CAN MOTIVATE THE EMPLOYEES AND THAT IS WHAT AN HR SHOULD BE DOING RATHER THAN LAYING OFF RETAINING THE EMPLOYEES AND ENHANCING HIS / HER SKILLS CAN IMPROVE THE QUALITY AND STANDARD OF THE ORGANIZATION.
By kanika kathuria, HR Manager, icbm-sbe  | 08 28 2009 18:34:58 +0000
1
0

I guess... I chose training because, most HR professionals I have met believe layoffs to be stigma for their company PR...

With due respect though ,this argument by itself may not be all relevant.. because realistically i have never heard the HR deciding on whether to layoff or to train its employees. its always the business.. and logically so. HR in a corporate role only plays the facilitator and the co-conspirator:)  (if I may use that word) in either of these situations...

It sure makes sense for the HR to try and retain people than to recruit similarly talented people while the economy is slowly moving to the north.. (age old formulae ... recruiting a new employee is 4-5 times more costlier than retaining one.. )

MY two cents.. and as always.. I stand corrected..

Prashant

 


By Prashant BalaDhanvi, Associate Consultant, Futurestep, a Korn/Ferry company  | 07 31 2009 14:51:55 +0000
1
0

Layoffs can not be an option in any circumstance. There could be many other way to avoid lay offs. Training is one of them. The employees can be given training so that they can perform better in their or other domains.

Layoffs also put question mark on the ability of decision maker as why this is happening?

Layoffs also hamper the image of company as a whole among employee, clients and corporate world.


By Sanjay Kaushik, Resource, TalentEquity Solutions  | 06 26 2009 07:09:47 +0000
0
0

Swapna ji i definitely agree to your point.If a company believes in laying off employees rather than give them training then the only one to lose out in this scenario is the company itself because when the times will improve and if the company will higher new recruits then they have to give them training which will costs the company more as opposed to  give a short training to a person who is already working in the company for some time.

So yes a company should give training to their existing employees rather than laying off. what do you say?


By Ajit Khan, Sales/BD Manager, Future Group  | 04 09 2009 09:56:31 +0000
0
0

Moreover.a downsizing strategy reduces the scale (size) and scope of a business to improve its financial performance


By Gargi Sinha, Senior Consultant, Hewitt Associates  | 03 24 2009 05:32:17 +0000
2
0

Hi,

Being in the same department I would never go for layoff. As we never want to loose our loyal and hard working employees. We can train them better and if needed can transfer them to other department according to their abilities.

Instead of hiring somebody from outside its better to have the one who is been loyal to the company. By giving him/ her some training we can easily accommodate with the field/ department where we need people.

It will reduce the cost of training as well as that person would be having some knowledge about the working techniques of the respective department of the company as he has been working for the same company.

Secondly, it will save time...as he'll be already aware of the rules, policies of the company.

Thirdly, as he is already working with the company he doesn’t have to make relations as the he will be working with the same company and people.

So, it’s better to provide training to the employees instead of layoffs.

Regards,

 


By Rohini Kaushal, HR Executive, Etech, Inc pvt ltd  | 03 14 2009 11:51:23 +0000
1
0

I think we are in this position because of poor Leadership and we must train our people to turn things around.


By Ruchi Batra, HR Manager, Mosaic ITES Services Pvt. Ltd.  | 03 11 2009 19:25:33 +0000
3
0

WOuld support the training, identifying the gaps in the skills and knowledge levels and helping them bridge the gaps in troubled times such as this will help the organization for future challenges.  YOu may not always want to go for external trainings, infact the focus should be encourage internal trainers in the organization. 


By Swapna Subramanian, Asst Manager - IT Services, Tesco  | 03 11 2009 17:08:16 +0000
1
0

I think there is no comparison between training and layoff. If layoff is due to cost cutting then training of existing employees will cost more but we have to find a way between the two. We have to make use of our old employees to find the way of cutting cost as there always remains many ways of tackling a situation to every individual. And in order to find the suitable way we should motivate our old employees into that way of thinking. So I think only training will not help.


By Ajay Kumar, Accounts Manager Shri Ganesh Apparels Pvt. ltd.  | 03 07 2009 05:45:43 +0000
1
0

Agree with Sanjib Kumar Jena's argument

 

Mostly employees are multi talented or skilled so we can take advantages from his/her experience and control some valuable expenses. Even more we create a better relationship with our old valuable employees.

 

 


By Dr Ahmad Ali Malik, Assistant HR Manager, GOL Internet Services (Pvt) Ltd  | 03 03 2009 06:39:03 +0000
2
0

we need to have training programmes for HR manager rather giving them lay offs.Because they are the back bone of the organisation.


By Napoleon.S.Kumar , Operation in field and as Lab Assistant., VRS  | 02 26 2009 06:46:26 +0000
2
0

Yes, manpower is crucial, especially in times of crisis. Organisations need to understand that mass layoffs are the easy way out, but what needs to be looked at again is the cost of hiring employees once the downturn scenario has reversed. Organisations, more so senior managers, need to identify good talent and help such employees to enhance their skillsets. This could be used as a tool to grab more business by conveying to clients that skills of the employees have been enhanced and more business could be garnered by the organisation.


By Inderpal Singh, Director - Academics and Admissions, MILE - Management Institute for Leadership and Excellence  | 02 18 2009 13:13:25 +0000
2
0

Though it seems to be the order of the day to go for "Layoffs", I sincerely feel that this is not the option, though a very easy one though. When the trend in the market turns around, it would be again very difficult to scout for people and in the bargain the compnay may land up paying more. Moreover, I feel that during such times the HR is the department to be on the move. With proper homework about the skills of the employees , it is time that they start either enhancing the skills of the lesser ones or educate them to go for courses taht would help them and a the compnay at large. The employees are the base and the foundation. During the good times, we take care of them only by increase in salaries, but I feel the HR should do a deep study and find ways and means to keep this balance in respect of the employees with respect to salaries and the in the interest of the organisation. Employees who would understand this give and take would respect the organisation and would stick to it.


By Ramprasad Murthy, Director  | 02 04 2009 04:59:11 +0000
0
0
No i don't agree with gargi, layoffs is not a good thing to do, it just destroys the morale of the workers present in the company and the performance will be reduced due to that by thinking everyday when will i be in the firing line, and once when the market becomes stable, when there will be more jobs and projects, then they'll be having no workers to do the work, so to me retaining them is better option than total layoff.

By Rohit Khanna, Project Leader/Managing Consultant, Accenture  | 12 20 2008 07:36:24 +0000
 
Viewers also viewed
Many companies provide some sort of introductory training or orientation for most of their new...
 
725 referals 32 arguments, 2204 views
Few companies have taken a clue from the famous game Farmville which gives you a virtual tour of...
 
2540 referals 45 arguments, 647 views
It is a general situation everywhere. Employee attrition is on rise with companies losing their...
 
1066 referals 41 arguments, 1761 views
more...  
Recent Knowledge (5)
WE HAD A GOOD NUMBER OF INVENTORS WITH GREATER VISION ABOUT THE SOCIETY. INVENTORS HERE NEED NOT...
 
2 referals 2 arguments, 97 views
These days as I switch on the tv or radio or look at a hoarding I do feel that power of ads I...
 
3004 referals 23 arguments, 482 views
C vs B
 
0 referals 3 arguments, 51 views
more...  
More From Author
Lay-offs are back?
Dear sir the pictures are4 broken and the attachments are not working so please help:)
Priceless thought. Thanks for sharing.
more...