Dear Domencio, These are not self doubts. These are firm convictions that we can and have the capacity and capability to do much better than we are performing as of now. And at best directed to iron out glitches and get sincere to fix gaps.
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Ravindra Sharma, Managing Consultant, CHEF-India
| 04 29 2010 10:50:53 +0000
Dear Gargi, Someone being able to get requisite mandate or backing or power to self elevate or fill a situation where there is absence or lack of intent of anyone to take the lead does not make one a Leader. Regrettably majority that are addressed as leaders do not even possess the minimum basic virtues or sense of responsibility that are essential to qualify for a leader. Hence the present situation and expected results.
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Ravindra Sharma, Managing Consultant, CHEF-India
| 04 26 2010 05:48:15 +0000
They hesitate to make independent decisions but it doesn't mean that they can't. They are not making decision for their family but for the whole country, huge population. That is why they make any decision after their party opinion where a group of leader discussed on all parts including oppositions....
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Vipin Bhasin, Private Equity/Hedge Fund/VC-Manager, Indian Investment Co.
| 04 25 2010 11:32:04 +0000
dear gargi. i agree with u. we Indian people always ignore to take independent decision.we fear to take any responsibility. leaders think that if any thing wrong happen after decision then it may be i will loose my leadership.
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maheshtiwary , Retail Store Manager, essar telecom
| 04 24 2010 07:39:04 +0000
Gargi, I agree with you , I take any proposal to my boss and she reverts no it cannot be done, after a lot of persuassion I point the Cost benefit analysis she will sit on it for a few week sand then say its too late to discuss now it is over now....man so frustrating
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Nikhil , Senior Manager, Insurance
| 04 24 2010 07:13:15 +0000
Do we have leaders in the first place? leaders lead the country and masses. Our so called leaders are termites eroding the country's wealth.
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Saurabh , Captain, Airline
| 04 24 2010 06:43:07 +0000
NO..""They can take independent decisions"" ... but they ask others to secure themselves if the decision is challenged by others..Which u know always ia there !!!...
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sukhdev singh, Project Manager, Firefly Group
| 04 22 2010 12:47:01 +0000
yes Indian leadres are not decision makers but they have a natural tendency to oppose any decision which is in favor of national growth, they look towards others for making decisions on their behalf and their decisions are also inspired by their personal interests, they seek power to amass wealth for their families and obstruct any development stand.Indian leaders must be progressive and determined to make the nation way ahead,solve the age long problems with other nations.
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Dinesh , MBA/PGDM student, PROTON bschool, ahmd.Gujarat
| 04 22 2010 06:41:18 +0000
Gargi I agree with you on the topic.Most of the indians beat behinh the bush.There is nothing called black and white and everything moves in grey area.Internationally people are very blunt about what they feel and take decisions independently...
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Vikas Bhatnagar, Manager Finance, Tata Motors Ltd
| 04 22 2010 06:12:43 +0000
we indians are grown in a community/family culture, the panchayati raj system where collective wisom prevails and a system where the opinion of the karta of the family or the community prevails - hence in our culture our mind is not trained for taking independent decisions and if taken support would not be coming forth for the execution thereof calling for a roll back of the decision. the art is to take a decision and get it vetted by people who matter rather than appear to take a bold independent personal decision, and this needs patience and takes time - or you may not get the support at a given point of time for political or emotional or other reasons. by the way in astrology the planet uranus for independence belongs to the west, while we in the east have not incorporated it in our system so far! we believe more in mutual interdependence within the family or community system rather than independence which is more a virtue in the western culture. however, delegating a bit of independence down the line could make governance speedier and effective for the aam admi and could make people leaders feel more personally effective and respectable rather than depending on the high commands for everything. this needs laying down a clear longterm policy with all its key principles and rules within the framework of which one could take an empowered decision. but we are not ready for this sort of empowerment afraid of the unknown and liking to delegate upwards to remain personally immune to the responsibility of the decision and thus the viscious circle of mutal emotional dependance continues to rule our DNA where we would like our thoughts validated by the hierarchy higher ups feeling cosy and secure. why regret, why not accept our cultural milieu and play the game within this milieu making decision making a collective art rather than an individual skill which could culturally prove counterproductive paying higher personal costs. just a shade of view to this debate, regards/kshantaram
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kshantaram , GM-hrd/hr professor
| 04 22 2010 06:12:23 +0000
THANK YOU GARGI FOR YOUR REFERRAL. IT IS AS TRUE AS SAYING SUN RISES IN THE EAST.DECISION IS A CHOICE BETWEEN ALTERNATIVES. INDIANS ARE VERY CAPABLE OF FINDING OUT MANY SOLUTIONS FOR ONE PROBLEM.FOR VARIOUS INEXPLICABLE REASONS DECISIONS THOUGH TAKEN ARE NOT REVEALED.SO LET US NOT UNDERESTIMATE OUR CAPABILITIES. IN A LIGHTER VEIN MANY WOULD HAVE DECIDED NOT TO DECIDE.
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s.baalu , Consultant, XYZ LTD
| 04 21 2010 13:15:50 +0000
I agree that delegation is the lost resort to the most Indian Leaders, but I don't think they are afraid of taking independent decisions, when it comes to that. But, the only place where independent decisions are required to be taken is in the battle field by the field commanders. In corporate or Public-life battles or wars, if you choose to call them so, independent decisions are not preferred over the collective decisions. Ultimately it is the top-man or woman, whose say holds the sway, to a great extent, but still they wish their views to be endorsed by the team-mates to ensure that the decision gets the stamp of the team and is also owned by the team when being implemented. The classic example is our First Prime Minister, who was known for a great wisdom and a vision for India (right or wrong), who always ensured that a thorough brain-storming was taken place on each and every proposal so that each Cabinet Member would have the satisfaction of participating in the decision making process (whether his or her views are incorporated in the final decision or no), while the decision itself might have come from Nehruji himself and was passed as a Cabinet Decision. I have been watching similar discipline being practiced by scores & scores of successful Indian leaders – wheather in public life or in corporate one. Any shrewd Leader knows that it is not his stamp on all his ideas that is required but it is the stamp of the team that is requried for the successful implementation of each decision; so they go by this moresensible procedure than indulging in ego-trips. And finally Prof. Pawan Budhwar of Aston Business School appears to need greater time in understanding the decision makng process of Indina leaders.
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M. Prabhakar Rao, Author of "Mayhem Of The Miserables!", http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/52075
| 04 21 2010 11:33:56 +0000
As far as the one man /woman show is the key word in your working area, you will not be able to take decision.This is true to our country's histroy.As already said leaders look elsewhere instead of looking inside their own think-tank ,for many leaders it's their party & party's prospects which are important.This has become as reference to many upcoming leaders,ultimately follow the self-centered ideas followed by their leaders.We lack leaders who thinks out of the box, to be independent decision maker.
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c.s.manjunthan , BUSINESS DEVELOPMENT MANAGER., ENTREPRENEURSHIP
| 04 21 2010 02:12:38 +0000
yeah,I do agree ,we indian first put forward our past experience in takin the decision,rather going ahead & to see ,it may not always happen.may be I am among those, but for me ,if u have a support behind may be ur friend, then u can overcome it.
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SUHAIB ATIQUE, Project Mannagement , Jubilant Chemsys Ltd
| 04 20 2010 16:52:03 +0000
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Dear Gargi, Very well intended question but requires some clarification: 1. If, Referring to decisions for self interest or benefits? The Answer is "they are most efficient in this world". 2. If the question is for the cause of nation or its citizens? .....did anyone mention a speed termed SNAILS. that too with biggest If in first placel. So dear friends, It is not hesitation without "cause and effect", it is with a lot of purpose and motive.
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Ravindra Sharma, Managing Consultant, CHEF-India
| 09 15 2010 07:04:52 +0000
I am supporting Domenico on this one. The view of one professor is not good enough to underrate Indian Leaders. My big question is who is really running this country with such a large population if the leaders are hesitant to make independent decisions? Who is really making these decisions? Will you condemn all by mistakes of some or a few?
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Devi Kaladeen, Audit Manager, Health Sector Development Unit
| 04 29 2010 17:35:43 +0000
As a matter of pure logic, it seems to me it's quite strange you have doubts like this, considering that India is one of the fast growing countries in the world and your big corporations are ready to make direct investments/ acquisitions in western countries.... Of course, this is only the perception of an external observer
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domenico fama, HR Business Parner, international Bank
| 04 28 2010 12:59:11 +0000
Indian leaders .... U mean Indian Political Leaders ? Even in Corporate world, decession in matters of big affair, is not the Board consulted ? In recruitment interviews, more than one person is not seen to occupy the chairs ? Political world : In Indian democracy, our President is not authorised to take independend decession - s/he is to consult the Ministerial (Board) -- Again, the Ministers are to get affarmation from the Parliament - in some matters both of the Parliaments. An exception : no authorisation was taken from Parliament when Nuke deal was done with USA though it was an International agreement. Now, problem errupted to get Parliament's nod in "Safe-guard Agreement" .. ! May Aston Business School understand our way of functioning ? Or may we illastrate our system which has differences that with USA or so ? ----------- Decessions are decessions whether single man or collective. The moot question remains : Is / was the decession taken keeping in view the larger interest of the stake holders ? Was the decession reviewed ? Was the impact judged ?
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ASOKE KUSARI, Domestic Private Banking-Executive/Manager, A large leading PSU Bank - India
| 04 26 2010 14:56:32 +0000
The issue of managerial leadership in the context of cultures of the world has been best dealt with by studies by scholars like Hofstede. Indian managers come out as leaning towards collectivism and having high power distance. In other words, Indian culture encourages participative decision making yet the lower-level managers hesitate in taking decisions on their own and look up to their superiors. The situation could however be changing. Younger managers now could be taking initiative and older managers might be adjusting to the new realities.
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Azhar Kazmi, Professor, King Fahd University of Petroleum & Minerals
| 04 25 2010 17:57:13 +0000
Yes you are correct Ravindra Ji. Whether related to politics or business organization, our Indian leaders are capable of taking independent decisions. Since they have to consider several factors like adhering to professional standard operating procedures, developing a plan to accomplish, maintaining situation awareness in order to anticipate needed action, developing contingencies & considering consequences, and also handling the rapid changing environment. Therefore it can not be construed as hesitating to make independent decisions. Moreover, the decision making process involves many to convince and to have unanimous and collective consensus to implement. Decision making is collective participation to be successful.
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NATTERAJA R. ARIKRISHNAN, GM-Projects, Bentec Electricals & Electronics Pvt. Ltd
| 04 25 2010 09:40:03 +0000
"It's a recession when your neighbour loses his job: it's a depression when you lose yours." it has been the word's of world leaders who talk in a sense of wisdom but whenever this is shown by us indian in a haste tone we make dumb decisions ?????? i mean why we blame those fellows when we don't go outside and tell them to stop !!!!!!! please atleast the good we can do is not to justify them rather give our voices in form of our voting rights "vote then quote"
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prateek choudhary, PG Diploma student, maya academy of advanced cinematics
| 04 24 2010 20:54:25 +0000
making this as " Indian " oriented , dont you think we are being a little racist .. There may be many other races and cultures that are hesitant, confusing ( if thats what u call it ) and negative. Come down to an individual and ask for yourself -- how many independent decision have you taken in your life ( ...18 years passes just like that be it indian or non-indian )
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mun jas, IT consutling & network architect
| 04 24 2010 19:28:27 +0000
I beg to disagree. We are a country of collaborative living. We respect the thoughts of other people. May be this has made some best brains to declare that we are not independent thinkers. We Indians do make most of the Independent decisions. Indians think of a plan put it across the board and fine tune it thats it. We are a independent decision makers.
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deepan , Sr.Research Analyst, Beroe
| 04 21 2010 08:23:28 +0000
leader sitting in his bungalow at alpha janpath..thinks .. reaction occurs at mehrauli ( aka biharis) gentleman .. politicians are masters of dispersive decision activation.
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Ajay Ziz, Dy. Registrar,, University of Jammu
| 04 21 2010 03:39:02 +0000
if indian leaders cannot take independent decision, then whole definition of leader fails. Who make a leader a leader ? It is us i.e. we. Wherever a collaboration of work comes, or team work is involved, a collective decision is essential although a leader initiative for that collection decision and leading from start to finish makes him/her a leader. Leadership is not constraint to country but character. If we want to see the change, we must become the change. Enjoy.
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vaneet , IT Project Manager, Peregrines Computing Family S.L
| 04 21 2010 01:27:20 +0000
Yes I agree with you they took as you said it brave indipendent desicions. yes when these desicions were taken they were at the top of the helm of affaires (Headding the Governments). Any honest person who have worked for Government, in particular near the seat of Power, that is in a position in the executive branch either near State or Central Capital would know who is responsible for these decisions or what made them agree to take these decisions. In general Indians in India are copycats and do not have the confidence to take decisions. That is one of the reasons why Indians have shined when they were working for Other Countries. Lets not boast and take pride for life long because of few notable exceptions in this country. Most of our political decisions brave or not, inteligent or not are mainly with the intension of getting political gains and make himself a hero or leader and originated not by the leader but by others. People who doesnot know how a budget exercise goes on and who all contributes think it is the finance minister who has done it all. Minister only gets briefed by the people down in the line what a decision if taken will results in, what are the options available, what is likely to happen if a decision is not taken etc. His contribution may be some times based on what political / financial, he or his party is going to get and the lobies and that too in the form of directions like I want this done or I want this kind of result I dont know how you will do it, I will give you all the freedom and will punish you if your idea fails etc. given to the executives down in the line. A good speaker and inteligent Minister will read, understand, hear to people and prepares himself properly. Some / or most of these decisions have resulted in converting our education system in to a pure business of making money by selling degrees and creating brand images, increase in curuption at all levels, increase in people worship, has taken our country to Stone age. Take for example the recent BT brinjal episode. Any common man will know what is important for India and needs to be taken as priority to acheive Food security, Nutrition security and Micro nutrition security. Our Yields of Cereals pulses and Oil seeds or very low when compared with International yields. We were not in a position to solve the problem of sunflower oil seed yield which they say is due to polination problem, We were not able to improve the cashewnut yields and still import raw cahew nut from Brazil and AFrica and 10 years from now if we dont solve this all our cashew nut processing units will have yo close down. We are not in a position to solve problem with Pomegranate fruit in Karnataka which is facing a threat of extinction now (Retail Pomegranate price has sored to Rs. 180 a kilo from Rs 30 a kilo two years back as a rsult in Karnataka). We didnot solve the problem in Nanjangud rasabale (a variety of banana) which is almost extinct now ( poor mans fruit which was just Rs 2-5 a kilo 5 years back is now Rs 40 a kilo), we are not preseving Muttu Gulla (A variety of Brinjal grown in Udupi area) known for its quality/ taste and medicinal properties. But the Minister thought it fit to waste time and money on BT Brinjal isuue which he successfully used in the Road shows conducted and showed he is good speaker, inteligent and for the people and will not take any hasty decision. He could have simply rejected the BT Brinjal at this juncture woth out all these Tamasha simply stating that our priority is Staple food, Edible oils, vegetable proteins ( to ensure food security, and nutrition security) first and then Cheap fruits and vegetables to ensure micronutrition security, in that order and should have told them that Brinjal can simply wait. That would have been a bold decision. He probably saw an opportunity to project his image in BT Brinjal. Yes we cannot be complaining all the time.
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K LAXMINARAYANA RAO, Freelancer
| 04 21 2010 01:00:55 +0000
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