http://www.indianexpress.com/news/china-deploys-11-000-troops-in-gilgit-area-in-731occupied-kashmir/673770/ Not that I fear the Chinese more than any other army, I fear them all, but apparently armies are active in the zone, so, yes, it is a serious reason to be afraid to go there.
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andreu ginestet, Corporate Planning/Strategy Manager, ginestet
| 07 07 2011 19:41:05 +0000
it sounds dumb but it is the real fact which people do not say.
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puneet , Manager Admin
| 07 05 2011 09:37:31 +0000
Government of India has been headed by persons belonging to Kashmiri Pandit families for 37 years, YET many Pandit families has been living in exile (some where close to 400000 people) since 1990, leaving behind their property in JK, living in tiny, cramped, unhygienic, 9 by 14 foot rooms for more than 25 years in migrant camps. They do not have strong leaders, failed to maintain equi-distance from both the BJP and Congress and in that process couldn't bargain with both the state as well as the central government. End result - refugee camps...Shame!
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Munshi Ramchand, Retired
| 07 04 2011 15:14:40 +0000
Why is nobody talking of those lacs of Kashmiri Pandits who had to leave their homes & belongings and live in refugee camps in Delhi & other places in their own country? Why did this happen? Can somebody please throw some light on this?
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Raju V P, Senior Manager, an International Bank
| 07 03 2011 19:10:31 +0000
Why is nobody talking of those lacs of Kashmiri Pandits who had to leave their homes & belongings and live in refugee camps in Delhi & other places in their own country? Why did this happen? Can somebody please throw some light on this?
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Raju V P, Senior Manager, an International Bank
| 07 03 2011 17:32:13 +0000
My last visit was in 2005, that too to Katra , a base to Vaishnavdevi Mandir. After that I have not even thought of visiting it. I like to go over Dal lake, Baramulla . Still, I am just harping over it.I think valley is , still, not conducive for tourism / a free pleasure trip.
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KALIYAMOORTHY , Oil & Gas Area Coordinator, Undisclosed
| 07 03 2011 16:04:37 +0000
@Arif: Your comment "How many times did u visit kashmir, did u ever see how the ppl spend their lives there, are thier and our mornings and evenings same, do they enjoy the same rights as we do..." Yes they enjoy the same rights as we do..but they preferred to mortgage their hard earned freedom for "non sense" from across the border - will any sensible people do that? They gave shelter to separatists out of friendship and sometimes out of fear...and they are paying a price for it. There is no need to blame anybody else. Do you know how much money is getting wasted in the name of "security" for kashmir?. That money does not come from heaven. That money should have been used for some other development activities had the people and leaders of kashmir not gone mad with "religion".
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Munshi Ramchand, Retired
| 07 03 2011 10:57:27 +0000
@Srinivas: Unlike you we must not think irrational.Kashmir is part of India and so are kashmiri people.Nodoubt the harrasment and bloodshed has made them rebellious, but that does not mean that Human Rights voilation occurs. What exactly are you referring to By saying Telengana People are crying for Withdrawl of police...? If situation tends to return to normal by the withdrawl, i think that should be appreciated. Lastly on a visit to Srinagar, i was taken to surprise by behaviour of police when they where frisking the senior citizens.What if same happens in Bangalore or in Delhi, would we apprecite that. The local kashmiris are arguing about being looked upon as intruders in their local land in their own country, how would you feel if we feel if we where treated so. So the point here i want to make is INDIA, pakistan and KASHMIR together need to come to the dice to fix the issue once for all and we should not play a blame game or appreciate communalism as true Indians...<PEACE>
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Saahil , Associate Consultant, Accenture
| 07 03 2011 06:27:57 +0000
@srinavas: A lil sugestion for you dear.. Y dont u go to Talengana,North East or Kashmir and stay for sometime as a local to visualize the things. I think u need to know the gravity of situation of our country more than anyother else here. PS: We dont believe in communalism , we r a secular country...
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Mir Arif, Principal Consultant, Infosys Technologies
| 07 02 2011 11:22:22 +0000
@All who think Kashmir is disturbed area, i want to ask u a simple question. Do u like kashmir as place or kashmir as nation??? If u like the place, what about the people?? When you people can support AnaHazari for voice against curroption, why do you people hesitate to support the innocent kashmiris when they raise their voices against the ongoing opression and bloodshed. What makes you feel so indifferent. Isnt it wrong when innocents are killed and women are raped.
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Mir Arif, Principal Consultant, Infosys Technologies
| 07 02 2011 09:09:55 +0000
I agreed with Gargi Sinha. Even I am also feeling fear. Before few years we called Kashmir as "Heaven of Earth". but now a days we called it a place of fear & terror attacks. There has regularly be a resurgence of violence in the valley. Although tourists haven't been targeted, it could happen. If we want to go, be extremely alert and careful. You seen their always signs of trouble. Valley of Kashmir is beautiful, but as long as their is violence, it's not the paradise it once was and might be again. If you walking around Srinagar, you can't help but notice that there are nervous-looking soldiers armed with AK-47 about every fifty meters along the main roads. There's a lot of barbed wire, too. Doesn't make for a delightful ambiance. The Trouble in Kashmir started with the Partition of India that took place with Independence. Diving India on religious grounds has turned out to be a disastrous plan, which had resulted in nothing but trouble for everyone concerned. We have seen 'Liberation' again and again throughout the world, is generally a sham, a means to gain control a people for motives that nothing to do with improving their welfare. The 'Liberated' people generally wind up with conditions of extreme poverty & hardship, worse than what they were suffering before their 'liberation', while the leaders of the 'liberators' live in the lap of luxury. Would Kashmir be free from operations??? No way!!! I had like to clarify that I am not against the visit of Kashmir, but I am against terrorist activities and this is certainly terror.
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Hiren Sheth, Cust. Service Manager, ICICI Bank
| 07 02 2011 08:18:09 +0000
It Noraml argument for all , now tell me in the local person person why choose the daljhil,ladhak, and some more important for the place for the honeymoon, so why afraid the Valley of the Ture Love
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DEEPAK MITTAL, GENERAL MANGAR,
| 07 02 2011 06:23:16 +0000
There is a great Misconception regarding Kashmir in the minds of most of the people. Media is responsible for creating such exaggeration Off and On.This Misconception gets its strength among those people who have not yet visited the valley. Once a person visits the Valley of Kashmir he finds that most of the people are innocent,hospitable and peace loving. Obviously, Kashmir is Paradise on earth & one can visit it without any hesitation because one is as safe as anywhere in India. So, make your mind and enjoy the trip to paradise.
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Kaisar Ahmad Mir, Program Manager, Jan Shikshan Sansthan (ANHAD)
| 07 01 2011 18:09:05 +0000
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I agree with you Vrushank. I had been to Kashmir so many times during early nineties to late nineties. Kashmir is a beautiful place and one must visit to enjoy the beauty.
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Rathin Deb, Freelance Retail Consultant
| 07 04 2011 12:21:04 +0000
@Raju: You are just confirming my comment by saying that kafir means 'unbeliever'. Just because non-muslims dont believe in your prophet, you call them as 'kafir's? Posted in wrong thread... plz get back to original thread for answer
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Mir Arif, Principal Consultant, Infosys Technologies
| 07 04 2011 06:58:08 +0000
@Raju: I too recently came across this eyeopening link... Kindly check it for more clarification. It reveals the truth which almost everybody is unaware about about kashmir and its people mujslims and non muslims http://youtu.be/1FSgYx2ozV0
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Mir Arif, Principal Consultant, Infosys Technologies
| 07 04 2011 06:36:14 +0000
@Arif, your comment: "@Raju: Dear Friend Do u know meaning of Word Kafir... Generally the word kafir means ' unbeliever ' and it is not meant as a derogatory label (unless it is used against Muslims by another Muslim). Absolute kufur is the denial of God." You are just confirming my comment by saying that kafir means 'unbeliever'. Just because non-muslims dont believe in your prophet, you call them as 'kafir's?
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Raju V P, Senior Manager, an International Bank
| 07 03 2011 19:06:42 +0000
@Saahil: Your comment "Lastly on a visit to Srinagar, i was taken to surprise by behaviour of police when they where frisking the senior citizens.". Whenever you allow a large deployment of police force to a place, you should be ready for some "major" inconveniences because the police force is not made of mohammed the prophet, jesus,ram and buddha. Instead, they are of people like you,me,thugs,crooks and our jokers. So, it is normal for them to frisk seniors in a "bad" way or whatever. Such behavior will not happen in delhi or bangalore because there are no police deployments there. Ice,apple, lakes and insurgency are the major products of kashmir...who will listen to them? "The local kashmiris are arguing about being looked upon as intruders in their local land in their own country," The local kashmiris created this situation, so why blame others?. I have to borrow a sentence from serinivas to complete this, " Who made the situation to this level and who is crying for normalcy."?
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Munshi Ramchand, Retired
| 07 03 2011 11:09:25 +0000
Life is uncertain everywhere. Your time is over on the Earth, you can die even inside your home. Terrorist are not only in Kashmir but they covered majority part of india. Kashmir is very beutifull place though i have never visited. But one should not miss the chance to visit that due to fear of terrorist. I advice you all the people of opposition spare your time and money and visit Kashmir pls......I will also do the same......thanks
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Vrushank Bharatkumar Dave, Area Business Manager, Elder Pharmaceutical Ltd
| 07 02 2011 15:23:46 +0000
you can visit if you dont get the unpleasant emotion of danger, i have been there twice with family. Afterall, people there have not fled from their home. I think all Congress ministers should visit there without security and pay homage to Mr. JL Nehru.
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Mohan Murari, Marketing Manager, Confidential
| 07 02 2011 13:19:17 +0000
I dont want to continue this argument anymore. You know I am in Telangana now. I now the situation here. I know what is going on here. Observe word to word comments of Mr. Rajeev. You come to know. What is going wrong with the nation. When you are an Indian, be an Indian. Dont take the sides of the neighbours on something or other. Its became passion to criticise the nation. Im sorry, I cant agree. Every country has its problem. If Kashmir is separated will it be free from problems and peaceful. Do you believe that the neigbouring friend who scripted the story of separation will keep quite. What is the fate of people of POK. You dont bother about.
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Srinivas suravajhala, Asst. Manager.
| 07 02 2011 11:34:29 +0000
Yeah, I am suggesting you the same my friend. Your broadmindedness failed you to use the word "we", and confined you to the shell "you". Am I correct? Its not pinching you my dear friend, I am reminding you.
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Srinivas suravajhala, Asst. Manager.
| 07 02 2011 10:45:14 +0000
Take the situation in Telangana. People crying for withdrawal of Police Force in the areas. Who made the situation to this level and who is crying for normalcy. Deployment of forces is to maintain the Law and Order situation.
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Srinivas suravajhala, Asst. Manager.
| 07 02 2011 10:35:22 +0000
I visited Kashmir as a journalist at least 100 time in the most turbulent period of insurgency there between 1991-93 and reported from there. The last time I visited Kashmir was last year. I can speak on the basis of my experience that a common Indian is unafraid of visiting Kashmir valley. The situation there may not have normalised completely, but it is definitely far better. The reason is not because the Indian security forces are doing a fabulous job now. They were doing a fabulous job even earlier at the cost of their lives. But the reason for near-normalcy in Kashmir today is that the fountainhead of terror in Kashmir -- Pakistan -- is facing its own moment of truth. The hunter himself is getting hunted. The jihadis and the terrorists are the same; the only difference is that they have turned the barrels of their guns from India to Pakistan!
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Rajeev Sharma, Strategic Analyst, Columnist, Publishing
| 07 02 2011 10:28:10 +0000
Have you visited Chattisgarh, same is the situation there, people cant move, because of Maoists. Since there is a problem, forces are deployed. When the situation is volatile, forces have to take a hard stand. When militants are taking shelter as a common of the village, every house has to be searched and those who have given them the shelter has to be booked. Dont talk like a human rights activists who always take sides with Maoists or terrorists.
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Srinivas suravajhala, Asst. Manager.
| 07 02 2011 10:25:21 +0000
Mr. Arif, you are taking a biased stand here. Who are doing this. Dont you know. Please come out of your religious shell and observe. The separatist parties and the Pakistan are fueling these things. There may be sporadic incidents of rape by police man, they are happening everywhere. You just cant generalise it. Where from you. Are you not from India. Are you trying to represent Pakistan r a separatist party of Kashmir. If not, why you, used "you" instead of "we". Its not fair on your part.
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Srinivas suravajhala, Asst. Manager.
| 07 02 2011 10:09:18 +0000
Yes, I do agree with Kaiser. People are innocents undoubtedly. The most notable thing here is, tourism is the livelihood for the Kashmir people, how they can kick out the tourists. But, the terrorist activities in the valley is the cause of concern. Separatist parties trying hard to get the heaven on earth separated from India. They are creating tensions and Pakistan is fueling it, funding it to create a fear psychosis.
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Srinivas suravajhala, Asst. Manager.
| 07 02 2011 07:49:05 +0000
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