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Created by : RAMAN , LEGAL, KAPSONS AGENCIES (P) LTD.  | 07 14 2011 16:59:13 +0000
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There is a legal maxim, 'It is ok even if 100 culprits escape but dont let even one innocent man to be punished'.

The Indian judicial system has carried this out to the extreme.  It is ensuring that every criminal escapes punishment so that not even a single innocent man gets punished.

But the system does not think that justice is not being done to those who have been wronged. 

First, the system of granting postponements should be totally abolished or atleast restricted to only once.  Secondly, there should be a timeframe within which a case is disposed.  Thirdly, the judges should be above board.  And lastly, the lawyers should do justice to their profession.

The above basic changes will go a long way in ensuring that justice is delivered.


By Raju V P, Senior Manager, an International Bank  07 14 2011 19:53:09 +0000
 
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No we do not need change first.

We need the implementation of laws first.

Once they are implemented properly then we can think of change.

How will change be helpful if pre-existing laws are also not implemented? 


By Aarti Gupta, Legal Consultant  07 16 2011 06:48:47 +0000
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By Puran Maurya, Freelancer, Law  | 01 25 2012 03:11:02 +0000
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Dear Suhaschandra,

If the legal system of India is the best in the world, why it takes decades to decide cases, why hearings are postponed frequently without any reason, and even in several cases judgments are not delivered during lifetime of the accused or litigants. The Bhopal Gas Tragedy case took about 25 years to decide, while several of the dependants of deceased/claimants had to wait for justice for all those 25 years. Even then the main culprit remained free and could not be sentenced for the cold blooded death and disablement of thousands of people of Bhopal.

The Sikhs whose relatives lost lives in 1984 Delhi riots have not so far been able to get justice for the last more than 27 years.

Several innocent people get jailed in false dowry cases without their fault by misuse of the provisions of sec. 498a without any remedy to book the false complainant and the police for their atrocities during their investigation. Not only that even the agents of criminal lawyers approach to the relatives of those victims to convince them to hire their principals on a very big fee and then on hire the demand of the lawyers start continuing to dish out more and more of money in the shape of their fee that too without any receipt granted and for just getting the dates postponed by one or the other pretext.

These are just a few examples, you can find several such examples if you make proper research.

STILL YOU THINK YOUR LEGAL SYSTEM IS THE BEST IN THE WORLD?


By PS Dhingra, CEO & Vigilance & Transformation Management Consultant, Dhingra Group of Management & Educational Consultants  | 07 22 2011 12:47:13 +0000
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The present legal system is heaven for the legal professionals, police and the affluent people of the society in combination, while it mostly proves as hell for the common man, who is ignorant of law or cannot afford to bear with the exorbitant cost and extraordinary time of litigation and is unable to get justice.


By PS Dhingra, CEO & Vigilance & Transformation Management Consultant, Dhingra Group of Management & Educational Consultants  | 07 22 2011 12:29:09 +0000
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Your absolutely right , the courts are used not  for getting  justice, but  are used  to restrain the aggrieved  to get the justice delivered to  him  speedily


By Lakhbir Singh Sokhi, Freelancer, Freelancer  | 07 22 2011 08:07:41 +0000
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The legal system in India is misused by White Collared cream for their survival and not for justice at Large.Fabrication and manipulation had polluted the courts with 3 Crore cases which are still pending for years though lakh of cases are .decided by courts every year by courts.There exists hardly 80-100 Lakh disputes which are having multiple litigation which are continued in chain of litigation, made to misuse manual hours of court to fabricated cases,resulting in nothing, as onus of proof lies on the defendant.While claimant/ petitioner applicant/prosecution should approach the court with clean hands but it is done to harass the public at large.causing injuries and injustice to public at large.Section 195/340 Cr.P.C. should be hardened with punishment from 7- life as per case. Sec.175- 186 of IPC should be hardened to imprisonment not less than 7 years.to avoid illegal practice of misusing the law to mis inducement of the courts for their interior motives.
By Lakhbir Singh Sokhi, Freelancer, Freelancer  | 07 22 2011 08:04:46 +0000
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yes,and agree with Mr.Raju comments 


By karthikrathnam , Branch manager,  | 07 21 2011 09:49:50 +0000
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There's definitely a lot of changes that is required in our legal system. At last count atleast 70% of our laws were outdated as they had no relevance in todays time. Plus a lot of laws are skewed towards a particular individual or society as they were passed at the whims and fancies of the political masters. A lot of laws are not logical and have not been formulated for the society's benefit.
By Jaygopal Raghavan, Marketing Manager, Landmark Group  | 07 20 2011 16:37:45 +0000
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Yes all of cases of Family & SC & ST like that more law are not transparent. More to more innocent peoples are suffer that's law.
By Puran Maurya, Freelancer, Law  | 07 19 2011 14:14:19 +0000
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Dear Srinivas,

I have not thumbed down your post. However, I must say, since you do not seem to have faced the rigour of the law against you or not tried to see closely what happens to some of the innocents, you cannot understand what disservice the present legal system is doing with the innocent people who are not able to afford legal fights. Being within the system, you cannot feel the punch several people would have faced.

TRY TO INVESTIGATE, AS AN IMPARTIAL PERSON, YOU WILL FIND THE NAKED TRUTH IN MY PREVIOUS POST.


By PS Dhingra, CEO & Vigilance & Transformation Management Consultant, Dhingra Group of Management & Educational Consultants  | 07 18 2011 12:20:32 +0000
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yes we definitely need to change the system. then only can the pending matters in the courts can be solved and the interest of common people will be protected..
By Tapolina Bardhan, Deputy Manager - Legal of Saregama India Ltd.  | 07 18 2011 07:02:15 +0000
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of course, we need to change our legal system since there is so much lacuna in our whole systems and unless there has been some changes in that we don,t see any hope for common people.
By shashi b prasad, Accounts & Finance Manager, I & S Communique P Ltd.  | 07 17 2011 17:54:49 +0000
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It requires a complete change in a way that innocent people should not suffer and the real victims should not escape like it is happening today.
By Gurleen Kaur, CMD, GKM IT & Engineering  | 07 17 2011 12:49:25 +0000
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A super computer can substitute most of the functions of Judicial system
By Abraham Paul, Senior Telecom Consultant, FCOMNET- Future Groups  | 07 17 2011 06:59:24 +0000
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I think not only legal but the whole system need a change.There is a large no of laws but nothing working properly.everywhere corruption & noone getting proper justice.Even police dont write FIR.you have to move from one police station to other but noone will write a FIR.For justice you have to move from one court to other..& one lawyer to other till then you will become bankcorrupt.
By sudhir kumar sinha, Founder & CEO, Inovogen  | 07 16 2011 13:16:56 +0000
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I agree with Raju sir, postponement and timeframe is very much expected here. But its not visible even in cases of terrorists, corruption and crime against women. Many times people also complain that police is not filing the FIR, there is need to change such attitude. Law should not be effective only against, thieves and picpockets it should also be used against terrorists, corrupt people and high profile people.
By Mohan Murari, Marketing Manager, Confidential  | 07 16 2011 08:36:28 +0000
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Presently, we are operating a system which was adopted from the england way back during the time of independence.. but at present our requirements and atmosphere is different. presently, we are emerging as a powerful nation... so i personally feel that there is a need to change our legal system to suit our nations requirements...
By RAMAN , LEGAL, KAPSONS AGENCIES (P) LTD.  | 07 14 2011 16:59:13 +0000
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Our legal system is the best in the world...but needs to be hastened up for speedy justice....!!
By suhaschandra deshpande, Marketing Associate  | 07 19 2011 17:17:38 +0000
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Mr. Dhingra ji, I respect your views completely for the reason that in this country in 8 out of 10 cases, justice eludes common man (especially, "have-nots"). The reason being, there is none to take up their case. I've initiated a cause to support some BSF jawans who have been deprived pension and in many cases even terminal benefits because they opted for VRS. However, after a gap of two-three years, the Ministry of Home Affairs issued notification that the VRS was an error and they have been asked to resume their duty to fight Kargil war. Many Jawans were even drawing pension then. After retirement, they refused to join. Their terminal benefits and pension are withheld soon after for those who refused to join! They are running from pillar to post to get the justice. No justice is done till date!
By S. Muralidharan, Executive Director, Knowledge Foundation & Campus Around the Corner  | 07 19 2011 11:54:28 +0000
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@Mr.Dhingra, sorry if I sound differently to you. I received a notification on toostep about thumbing down with your name, so I mentioned your name. I appreciate your concern sir. Sorry anyway. I know it since I am closely watching being in the Department. My contention here is that we know what the loopholes are. They can be plugged. Revamping the entire system is a big task and there is no guarantee that there wont be any loopholes in the new legal system.
By Srinivas suravajhala, Asst. Manager.  | 07 19 2011 06:09:32 +0000
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Just follow it from your side...you'll need no change in it...
By Nagpal Singh, Sales and Business Development, Babel Group of companies  | 07 19 2011 03:27:18 +0000
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In short, a better infrastructures & modern facility to make the deliverables effectively such as networking, internet & computer, database access without restriction, linking all courts & providing archives online for referral etc.


By KALIYAMOORTHY , Oil & Gas Area Coordinator, Undisclosed  | 07 18 2011 12:13:02 +0000
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Since Independence, the legal system is same that is to say, the number of courts at various level is same. But, the population growth has gone up any where in billions. Number of Lawyer is not adequate as there is no multiplicity of Law colleges in proportions. There needs to be a reasoning on "increasing the number of courts as the load(demand of work) increased ". Inadequate professionals with inadequate courts makes CASES pile up in racks. Adding to it, the abrupt transfer, retirement of lawyer / ministers concerned delays the legal process.

By changing it & making it functional, it needs a lot of resources & training, I do not think that, any Govt will come forward to do it.

Rather, where we find set backs, there we need to bring in amendments, new laws, bylaws etc. For that , we need a supportive political environment. What we see in, any bills put forward are turned down & makes blocks for the desirable progress to that section.

It is not the system that is going to do wonders for the people. It is the people who dwell in it to bring bout the Wonders.


By KALIYAMOORTHY , Oil & Gas Area Coordinator, Undisclosed  | 07 18 2011 11:36:00 +0000
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@Mr. Dhingra, You have some opposite view of it. Instead of thumbing down, if you post your argument it will be good. Am I correct?
By Srinivas suravajhala, Asst. Manager.  | 07 18 2011 08:56:08 +0000
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Stricter implementation of provisos is more than enough instead of going for total revamping of the legal system. But speedy disposal of cases is required. Law Ministry and judiciary has to think on this aspect. Those who need to be punished are escaping while some innocents are lodged in jails for simple reasons. Our slogans sounds better, but we are failing in implementation . "Everyone is equal in the eyes of law", it remains as a a beautiful slogan. The biggies particularly the political leaders and bureaucrats know the ways on how to escape. These loop holes have to be plugged.
By Srinivas suravajhala, Asst. Manager.  | 07 18 2011 06:36:27 +0000
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ofcourse Aarti, the lacuna is in implementation. and that leads to governance issue which is the culprit of all the woes.


By Ravichandar S, investment  | 07 17 2011 16:02:32 +0000
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Not at all,we need to first organize ourselves to follow/abide the legal system. Legal systems can'nt be Re-inforced again& again.
By VISHWA DEEPAK MISHRA, HR-Talent Acquisition Cum Business Development Manager, Leading IT Giant.  | 07 17 2011 08:21:36 +0000
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Amendment can be done but to change the system at this stage!! it's never going to be easy in a democratic country.
By Rohit Thakur, Electrical Engineer-Industrial, Quality Engineering and Software Technologies  | 07 17 2011 03:39:58 +0000
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Change is as good as new, undoubtedly many of us do agree with it but real question which arose for consideration is what kind of change we are expecting and in what way we are going to implement the same. What I mean is change in anything is of no use till we are not aware of existing law or the about the changes we are supposing to made. Proper implementation of law is what we required rather than making new changes alonwith the awareness about Law in society.
By Amit wadhwa, Senior Consultant, C & W Law Associates  | 07 16 2011 19:40:42 +0000
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Yes I agree with you. Present legal system of Munshif to district to high to suprecourt is ok.

We need more courts & professionals to deliver the goods in time. May be a set of FAST TRACK court can be formed in addition to what we have so that, based the urgency & severity of case, it can be dispensed with at shortest time.

Clearance of old cases at the fast rate will infuse more confidence in the mass.


By KALIYAMOORTHY , Oil & Gas Area Coordinator, Undisclosed  | 07 16 2011 15:28:58 +0000
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I support your views, Aarti & thanks for referral.


By SHRIKANT MANOHAR DANKE, Project Manager, Phadnis Infrastructur Ltd  | 07 16 2011 13:26:17 +0000
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Thanks,Arti,though my views are in conformity to Mr Dhingra who has painted picture perfect of the state of legal system.I am supporting your argument on the premise that there is a need to re look in to the procedural part of the legal system.A seasoned lawyer can felicitate the proceedings postponed months or years together.This leads to ill will for the legal system among the most  of victims. 


By Mohammad Bakhsh, Consultant(Civil), Rail Vikas Nigam Limited  | 07 16 2011 09:30:34 +0000
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Aarti I ditto your point of view on the subject.


By Rathin Deb, Advisor and retail consultant, currently as Branch Manager, Tower Infotech Ltd  | 07 16 2011 08:15:23 +0000
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The Government of India, officially known as the Union Government, and also known as the Central Government, was established by the Constitution of India, and is the governing authority of the union of 28 states and seven union territories, collectively called the Republic of India. It is seated in New Delhi, the capital of India. The government comprises three branches: the executive, the legislative and the judiciary. The executive branch headed by the President, who is the Head of State and exercises his or her power directly or through officers subordinate to him.[1] The Legislative branch or the Parliament consists of the lower house, the Lok Sabha, and the upper house, the Rajya Sabha, as well as the president. The Judicial branch has the Supreme Court at its apex, 21 High Courts, and numerous civil, criminal and family courts at the district level. The basic civil and criminal laws governing the citizens of India are set down in major parliamentary legislation, such as the Civil Procedure Code, the Indian Penal Code, and the Criminal Procedure Code. The union and individual state governments consist of executive, legislative and judicial branches. The legal system as applicable to the federal and individual state governments is based on the English Common and Statutory Law. India accepts International Court of Justice jurisdiction with several reservations. By the 73rd and 74th amendments to the constitution, the Panchayat Raj system has been institutionalised for local governance.


By ALOK KUMAR SINGH, FIELD EXECUTIVE, QUALITY RESEARCH & PROMOTIONS  | 07 16 2011 08:00:04 +0000
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I endorse the views of Arti. We have adequate provisions in LAW, but what is mis-leading is their enforcement and implementation in true spirit.
By S. Muralidharan, Executive Director, Knowledge Foundation & Campus Around the Corner  | 07 16 2011 07:01:01 +0000
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