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Created by : Eswaran Sivasamy, Resource Management, HCL Comnet  | 03 25 2010 05:37:15 +0000
Industry : IT ServicesFunctional Area : India(Markets)
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One of the big differences that managers notice when they move from the US to India is the way employees look at the concept of salary disclosures.

 
In the US it is unusual for any one to divulge their own salaries or seek to know it from any one else. I am not sure if this is simply cultural or if this is to avoid any legal complications. In any case, this behavior actually suits the employers very well as well. Although pessimists can look at it as another weapon in the hands of the employers to negatively discriminate employees, the overall result, as far as I can see, is that this allows employers to be completely fair. This allows the employers to recognize the excellent performers who are valuable to the business by "discriminating them positively" by giving them higher raises. This builds motivation in those employees to perform even better.
 
 
In India however, the situation is very different. Employees in India generally tend to discuss each other's salaries and increments quite openly. In fact I sometimes see cases where the employee walks out of his manager's cabin after his appraisal discussion straight into the hands of his waiting peers brandishing his increment form. To most people this looks fair. This makes sure that the company treats every one fairly as the veil of secrecy is lifted. However, the one thing that many people fail to appreciate is the fact that humans by nature are consumed by envy. We covet what some one else has and often compare ourselves pretty harshly with our peers. And this comparison is seldom objective. In the case of the salary increments, it is not often that one looks at his/her peer in a positive frame of mind and try to assess the reasons for the difference in treatment. Rather, the human mind looks for extraneous reasons like favoritism etc to explain the difference. This breeds resentment and a sense of unfairness which could then reflect in his/her work . In a business environment it is even more difficult to explain some aspects in terms of how the value of an employee differs from another to justify this difference in treatment.
 
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Eswaran amazing debate.......

Yes we should have some positive discrimination toward salary and hike. Because many of the employees are disturbed  when his\her colleague gets a hike. So we should try to reduce this or else it will affect the workplace and the productivity.

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By Priyanka Dixit, HR Executive, Leading IT services  03 25 2010 12:17:26 +0000
 
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In my opinion finding hard and prompt enthusiastic employees with out any age and qualification bench mark and offering suitable reward by the employers is definitely a positive attitude by the company. This will change other employees mind to change their attitude and in turn which help to grow themselves and build up organization.

Raghotham R


By Raghotham R, Materials Manager, M/s.Karle Group of Companies, Bangalore.  | 03 26 2010 05:59:09 +0000
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I personally agree to the points raised by you.


By Raghotham R, Materials Manager, M/s.Karle Group of Companies, Bangalore.  | 03 26 2010 05:41:29 +0000
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yes

 


By muthruaj , B.Tech/B.E. student, maha college of engineering  | 03 26 2010 04:49:53 +0000
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Unfortunately in India, salary is in the public domain. Everyone knows everyone elses salary. This is the culture prevalent today. As we move foward from attendance - punch&lunch oriented salaries to performance oriented salaries this may not be totally a bad idea.


By V. Srinivas, Freelancer, Information Technology  | 03 26 2010 02:51:28 +0000
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Yes, I believe that 'Positive Discrimination' is the need of the hour. Every employee who proves him/herself a class apart from the lot, needs out of the turn incentives. 

Okay, we can say that circumstances in India is not ripe enough as compared to other countries - US in particular. But, I would like to mention that this is not the case. Given us a chance to change, we happily accept that. I would like to give one example here -- in early days of 80's, coming up of 'Fast-Foods' were also protested by some quarters on the pretext that Indians don't have a palate for that. But, what happened afterwards, it is obvious to all of us.

One more thing, this approach is not a new concept altogether - as is being apprehended.  Most of us have seen the news related to Out-Of-Turn promotions given to exemplary staff of Govt of India by Govt themselves. We are exposed to this concept already but yes, it is not as widely practiced as in US. 

Every action has some takers and some opposition. If anything is going to contribute positively, that should be encouraged. Therefore, I can say that this 'Positive Discrimination' should be practiced in general to provide clear examples of 'Great Works-Great Perks'. 

Thanks.


By Kumar Saurav, Sr Consultant - SAP, Vitalwires Consulting Pvt Ltd  | 03 25 2010 15:38:35 +0000
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You work hard and earn better.If someone is assets to company then he will surely will get benefit but if someone is a liability then its better that company throws him out


By mohan radiya, owner, Kaak Media and productions  | 03 25 2010 14:34:15 +0000
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When we compare ourselves with Americans then we need to count other things as well.We Indians have tendency to know every personal details of other's whereas in US people dont like to discuss their life with anyone even earnings.While my stay in LA I never asked anyone his earning and never tried to discuss my personal life with them.

I am completely agree with V.Sushant Abhishek,


By mohan radiya, owner, Kaak Media and productions  | 03 25 2010 14:30:57 +0000
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Definitely this is the need of the hour.

However, it might do us well to understand the cultural mindset of an Indian employee. In India (in Asia largely), everybody is very relational. Nothing matter more than your relationship with the other person. Also that there are no serious boundaries most people lay around themselves and what comprises their world. Whereas in the US (western countries largely), everybody lives their own individual lives and people are not allowed to go beyond what you are willing to disclose about yourself. You can't even take your dad and mom for granted and go meet them without calling them to ask if it is ok for you to come.

Where there are pros and cons to both, this difference in the cultures is what leads to the openness about pay in India. Because in India, all the employees are always have the mindset of "Us and the company"; this makes all the employees feel in one boat and hence the openness about the pay. Whereas in the US, it is "Me, my work and the company" and therefore everything is kept shut (the workforce is never a group).

That being said, i do believe that we're moving in that direction (in terms of the way the employee views colleagues and work; not the relational aspect). I think 10 - 20 yrs down the line, people will not want to disclose their pay so openly.


By V. Sushanth Abhishek, Senior Manager - IT, Seva Bharat  | 03 25 2010 14:02:24 +0000
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I feel employers know their interest and thus have every right to positively discriminate in favour of the sincere and willing employee. Lack of recognition from the bosses creates a kind of stagnation as far as motivation is concerned


By Devdutta Mukherjea, Sr. Project Manager, Adept Software Avenues Pvt Ltd  | 03 25 2010 13:40:22 +0000
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It all depends on how the management handles the same. Secrecy as such can leak over friends and slowly everyone knows. But as no one is supposed to talk everybody keeps quite about discontent. If it is open then performers are not noticed and people who enter at lower base lose out on beneifts....and finally lost to rivals for fetching higher salaries.

Better strike a balance where in performers are noticed by quantifiable figures and announced / honoured publicly as well. Then whatever they get will also be seen differently....others will see the performance difference and try to catch up.

 


By Rajaram Khanolkar, Business Manager - East Africa (Nokia), Redington Africa  | 03 25 2010 12:56:29 +0000
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I think it all depends on Market, US employers has far better flexible rules & regulations for employees to reach them on any concern, whereas in India, no way


By Eswaran Sivasamy, Resource Management, HCL Comnet  | 03 25 2010 05:37:15 +0000
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