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Created by : Saket Mishra, Asst Manager-BD, TEC India  | 05 15 2010 13:14:16 +0000
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Yes it really works good !!!

Today almost every corporate companies depend on reference. This is one way they can reduce the attrition rate. Today it becoming difficult for the employer to recruit people who stick to the organization for long period. So the employees who are working in the organization can refer people they know and who will fit in the job. 

This is a better better way to recruit..... and it works....


By ANAND M, Freelancer, Human Resources (HR) Consulting  05 17 2010 11:33:30 +0000
 
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In the present scenario it is no. As an employee is not sure about the performance of the new person and if anything goes wrong the image and the existence in his own company would end up into troubles. Thus an employee would not take risk of his own future by helping the person. 


By T V Srikanth, Deputy Manager - Operations, SQL STAR International  05 17 2010 17:35:00 +0000
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Initially it works at the time of entry in any new company but after that it all depend upon an individual to be continue.
By SHRIKANT MANOHAR DANKE, Project Manager, Phadnis Infrastructur Ltd  | 12 15 2010 13:07:56 +0000
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yes.reference is a god father to get increment,leave and promotion
By alagappan , Analyst, geomechanics technology , ahamedabad  | 05 30 2010 08:19:22 +0000
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references do work in the corporate world but just for the sake of introduction te rest depends on our skills
By Anaz Asimudeen, Asst.Engineer, KSEB  | 05 29 2010 07:57:17 +0000
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Yes it is true for almost every corporate.

It is good for organization & bad for job seekers(without ref.) & HR consultants........


By Vipin Bhasin, Private Equity/Hedge Fund/VC-Manager, Indian Investment Co.  | 05 29 2010 07:11:47 +0000
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Reference do works out in the corporate world as applicant who is not even getting a chance to sit in interview they get that chance very easily cos of reference. As when someone refer someone then before referring he or she analysis whether referring will be right  decision or not for the particular person. Referrer analysis so much because his/her image will also reflect on the individual performance. And the best part of reference job is that it helps to reduce job attrition and even helps to select the right candidate for the right job.


By Javed Akhtar, Sr. Executive - Logistics, Keventer Agro Limited  | 05 29 2010 04:30:46 +0000
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more than  50% candidates get placed due to referrals


By Sudhakgar Aditiyaa, Data, Mer  | 05 29 2010 03:33:12 +0000
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yes,today we dont expect the better job without the reference, i m facing this problem because i hav no ref for the job
By anal , MBA/PGDM student, srm university  | 05 22 2010 04:42:36 +0000
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THANK YOU ANAND.

GONE ARE THE DAYS ORGANISATIONS WERE RECRUTING PEOPLE KNOWN TO THEM AS FRIENDS OR RELATIVES OR FROM KNOWN SOURCES. REQUIREMENT OF HUMAN RESOURCE AT VARIOUS LEVELS KEEP ON GROWING.EASIER OPTION TO ABSORB UNKNOWN PEOPLE.TO PLAY THE GAME SAFE REFERENCE   AS MENTIONED BY THE APPLICANTS OR FROM THEIR PREVIOUS EMPLOYERS SERVE VERY WELL ON MOST CASES.


By s.baalu , Consultant, XYZ LTD  | 05 21 2010 11:46:52 +0000
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The idea behind calling for refrence is to improve the chances of selecting a right candidate. It is not always easy to judge a candidate perfectly in an interview. A good candidate may at times not do well & vice-a-versa a bad candidate may end up posing very well in the interview. Hence, refrence helps both the candidate as well as the organisation.


By kiran pandya, Zonal Manager, Piccolo Mosaic Ltd  | 05 19 2010 06:28:13 +0000
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Sometimes the interest in a job overtakes many other factors like quality, experience, education etc. His interest makes him work sincerely and references generated mostly from the lobby of the candidate. I think the references are useful sometime to get good candidates.


By Santosh Kumar Mohanty, Civil Engineer-Municipal, Sambalpur University  | 05 18 2010 11:47:41 +0000
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Always, straight away establishes a comfort level with the candidate


By Atul Joshi, Assistant General Manager-Business Development, Flexican Bellows and Hoses Pvt.Ltd.  | 05 18 2010 08:03:45 +0000
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yeah to a great extent coz the credibility surely is high when a person refers somebody
By Swati Gaur, Deputy MAnager - Marketing, Kotak Mahindra  | 05 18 2010 07:12:07 +0000
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This goes without saying. Don't we make choices that are supported by strong references?
By Aditya Iyengar, Product Lead - Bullion, Base Metals & Energy, Kotak Mahindra Bank  | 05 18 2010 06:54:45 +0000
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YES... REFERENCES ASSURE THE MANAGEMENT... That they are Recruiting the 'Right Cadidate'.

This saves Time, Money & Assures Good Resuts for the Recruiters. It also helps in Building the 'Right Team' for the Future Growth of the Company.

References also CUT DOWN the uncertainty of TRIAL & ERROR, that HR is always afraid of...

Happy Debating Friends !


By Naushad H.L., Creative Director, MAD COMMUNICATION  | 05 18 2010 06:08:24 +0000
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Definitely. Saves time and money. However, the source of reference has to be credible.


By Ramesh Babu, Head/VP/GM- Purchase/Material Mgmt Retired  | 05 18 2010 05:48:11 +0000
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True Anand, references are an essential part of job searching and networking. A solid reference can often mean more than experience or education when it comes to beating out the competition....
By neeta menon anand, Freelancer, Advertising/PR/MR/Events  | 05 18 2010 05:13:03 +0000
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i agree with Anand so far as reference is concerned,but it helps in reducing rate  of attrition is a moot point.


By Mohammad Bakhsh, Project Leader/Managing Consultant, Freelancer  | 05 18 2010 04:49:40 +0000
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Yes, I do agree with Mr. Anand M. in todays corporate scenario employees get benefitted for the reference also.


By Mousam Chakma, Sales Manager, ICICI DIRECT  | 05 18 2010 03:39:52 +0000
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Of late most organizations not only seek references but they also follow up and call the references to check out the applicant.


By RAMESH KANDADAI, Principal Consultant, ARM Consultants  | 05 18 2010 03:38:12 +0000
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Yes. But this is only one of the many parameters. But what if the person referred to is not preferred by the recruiter?
By Balagopal , Independent Representative, SAHARA CARE HOUSE  | 05 17 2010 23:42:36 +0000
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Agreed....! to Mr. Anand.

Reference will really work out when u fit to that position also


By Mohammed Abdul Bari, Network Support Engineer@ETISALAT, Dubai  | 05 17 2010 20:31:09 +0000
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refernce give some prefrence but ultimate happing is given many other things also
By anilgupta , Branch Manager/Regional Manager, Cholamandalam Ms General Insurance  | 05 17 2010 18:13:51 +0000
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Surely it works, especially for vacancies in the top management.Everything else is secondary.

 

 


By akshaya bhatia, HEAD IT, Mega Cabs-GROUP MEGA Co., In a transit mode now  | 05 17 2010 17:56:08 +0000
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It works and works really well.Today's corporate market is really very much bothered with the quality & devotion. Its either with the manpower or with the business. In both ways reference works. Getting more business, reference gives you a comfort of fast & favorable deals. Seeking employment, it offers a comfort of fast & favorable response.
By Vishal Jindal, Head - Operations, Globe Automobiles Pvt Ltd  | 05 17 2010 16:46:06 +0000
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Everyone knows it does works ... So no comments from my side... Truth here needs not to be proven!!


By Ashutosh Gupta, MBA/PGDM student, Tecnia Institute of Advanced Studies  | 05 17 2010 15:48:09 +0000
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Definitely it works in the corporate field, my own experience but imporatant thing is that, we can refer, influence but at the end the person has to perform well in interview.


By drvijaya , Regional Medical Advisor, AstraZeneca  | 05 17 2010 15:28:39 +0000
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Yes it works in  corporate world.


By Wajid.Pathan , Enterprenuer (Designer /Developer/Supplier), Self Employed  | 05 17 2010 15:15:51 +0000
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yes because I saw in many industries when they start screening their main focus on reference part.it may be work lot of for them


By neha mittal, lecturer in jnv university  | 05 17 2010 15:09:44 +0000
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Yes, of course that really do work. It means that someone has really the faith laid upon u, your skills and all 


By Harbinder Kaur, Analyst, IBM  | 05 17 2010 15:08:44 +0000
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Certainly, Reference is working everywhere. Someone's reference makes a company to have a strong believe and faith in you. But later on you have to prove yourself because it can be introduction but not the guarantee certificate for permanent place in company/corporate.
By Krishna Bhardwaj, Lyrics Writer, Freelancer  | 05 17 2010 14:33:43 +0000
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IT GOES WITHOUT SAYING THAT REFERENCE WILL DO A LOT IN THE CORPORATE .

OF LATE ALL LEADING CONSULTANTS ARE ASKING THE CANDIDATE TO QUOTE SOME REFERENCE NOT AS A PRECAUTIONARY MOTIVE BUT AS A SAFE BET


By sudhakar , BUSINESS CONSULTANT  | 05 17 2010 14:27:22 +0000
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yes, surely it works. 


By suresh asher, Agency Associate, Max New York Life  | 05 17 2010 14:24:52 +0000
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Certainly. A known devil is better than an unknown angel.

Seriously , if someone you know and trust recommends an individual who will be an asset to your company , you can have more confidence in the candidate than if the candidate were a total unknown.

Of course , it is obvious that this is not nepotism , which is employing relatives whether they are good or not. So for the recommended candidate to be employed , he / she will have to go through the normal recruitment procedure , and assuming he / she does as well as the other candidates , he / she will be preferred.


By K. NARAYAN, None, None  | 05 17 2010 14:06:09 +0000
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Not necessarily a reference gives out an identity to the individual's skill. May be, at times, it is biased. However, it gives an assurance sort of thing for his conduct & character. To an extend, can be used same as police verification.


By KALIYAMOORTHY , Oil & Gas Area Coordinator, Undisclosed  | 05 17 2010 13:51:37 +0000
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References and Networking are important aspects in the industry. References lead to better trust and loyalty and the member is also more focused on his work....


By Badri N Srinivasan, Head - Quality, Valtech India Systems Pvt. Ltd.  | 05 17 2010 13:37:37 +0000
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Today almost every corporate companies depend on reference. This is one way they can reduce the attrition rate. Today it becoming difficult for the employer to recruit people who stick to the organization for long period. 


By SARABJEET SINGH SALUJA, Head/VP/GM-Business Alliances, CE Info Systems PVT LTD  | 05 17 2010 13:27:43 +0000
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I think as of date one of the parametre is reallity check of the selected candidates in order to get maximum out of the candidate.

At times it backfires in those cases who take their HR in confidence of their quiting.


By Rathin Deb, Freelance Retail Consultant  | 05 17 2010 12:57:55 +0000
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Corporates normally want to be sure about a candidate. Reference reduces the risk of the potencial candidate in terms of work skill as well as background.


By Swapan Kumar Gorai, Head/VP/GM-Finance/Audit, Foster Wheeler Bengal Pvt Ltd  | 05 17 2010 12:42:18 +0000
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Sort of yes and no both. Mix thinking about it.


By Praveen Tripathi, Sr. Sales Officer, Heinz India Pvt. Ltd.  | 05 17 2010 12:32:01 +0000
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In short run, yes it really works out in corporate world. But in long run, the person who is using the reference to grab an opportunity need to have commensurate ability to fulfill his/her obligations towards the opportunity. I don't personally feel dear that this topic is really worth debating. Most of the votes you are going to get in favor of - YES. 


By Anand Hisaria, Branch Manager/Regional Manager, Ceasefire Industries Limited  | 05 17 2010 12:05:03 +0000
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It is one of the time tested system to recruit people. Yes it is traditional and deep routed system


By Ravi , Project Manager,  | 05 17 2010 12:03:56 +0000
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I do agree; reference has a major contribution in recruiting people in corporate world.

But I deny that it would reduce the attrition rate.

Unless employer satisfies the employee would be along with him. 

So the thumb rule for employer of reducing attrition rate should be like "Recruit a person who can satisfy my needs and I can satisfy his needs", a close to real forecast of give and take.

But in IT this is almost impossible since the demand of skills are very high.


By VIJAISENTHIL, P. K., Project Manager, Infosys Technologies  | 05 17 2010 11:58:02 +0000
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Sort of yes and no. Yes, if the source is trustworthy i.e if the company has quantifiable trust on the intellect, integrity of the person on whom it has bestowed the responsibility of referring someone then the search process of reference becomes that much more easy. It it's vice-versa then augumentation of useless manpower takes place.

Hanu


By T Hanumantha Rao, Mentor, Macher TechnoConsults  | 05 17 2010 11:51:27 +0000
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yes it does work in many organisation. but i feel sometimes its better and sometimes its not.


By Mohammad Asif, Sales Executive/Officer, ITC  | 05 17 2010 11:49:39 +0000
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It works out very much as in public enterprises the so called word "Sifarish" .It happen same in Corporates world now.
By Saket Mishra, Asst Manager-BD, TEC India  | 05 15 2010 13:14:16 +0000
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i don't think reference will really work in corporate world. in corporete world people who are productive are boon to corporate sector. Sighting example two guys one who came with reference and other with good knowledge and communication skills came to be interviewed. so the second one has 99.99% possibility to get employed without any reference.


By abhishek paul, Designer Trainee, pennar industries ltd., patancheru, medak dist., hyderabad  | 05 22 2010 03:54:31 +0000
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Well, first we need to understand how individuals use this process of 'references'. Most of the times they are done for ones personal contacts, it depends on the situation of the organisation and individual at that instant time. Individual may or may not suitable for the position or it may cause to even ignore a better candidate. Some companies have tried to compensate the employee how in involved in the process but let causes people to get more greedy and they forget the welfare of the organisation over personal gains.. 

I think that reference has nothing to do with iteration rate because if someone is being offered a better package and profile then the individual will take a call on it. Ironically, in some cases there might be another reference involved. 

At middle and lower level, the references in the majority of the cases just cater largely to the needs of individuals. These individuals may not be satisfied with their existing job or may not be working at all or maybe freshers. Thus, these individual needs create a gap in achieving the exact job fit or organisational fit.   

Reference is a tool and it has to be used effectively but in India, we may need to reconsider the different strategies for implementing it. 

Last but not the least, 'reference' is the another jargon given by the management world to a simple hindi word which is 'Jugad'. It has be in the system and will remain forever. 


By Rochit Rajvanshi, MBA/PGDM student, Institute of Management Technology (IMT), Nagpur  | 05 18 2010 07:35:33 +0000
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Depends on what type of reference do you have...a personal one or a regular kind of...in the end what matters most is the one's talent and ability.


By syed zuber, Manager - Marketing & Admin, cerebiquitous services  | 05 17 2010 12:58:08 +0000
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Present system of referral is not perfect though it works in many cases . This can only be useful if the person/s referring  has a proven  record of trust in the company not just in terms of position alone , I will suggest the HR of the company should propose a core group who can refer( and later it should be approved  by senior manager/s). at many instances the current system limit chances for a best fit hitting target, as HR always has to give preference to referrals. In a situation where referring group are not strictly controlled HR can easily get flooded and biased on referrals than the one best fit in open market .


By Sunny Kunnumpuram, Project Manager , Sonyericsson  | 05 17 2010 12:33:43 +0000
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Referal has a very limited usefullness unless it is done by someone much higher up the ladder than the referree...also if the earlier line of work has been different , it has little weightage. In the upper echelons of Mgmt: yes this is a very good means of catching the right guy for the right job...SK


By S.Sushil Kumar, Freelancer, Freelancer  | 05 17 2010 12:04:52 +0000
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