it is the women oriented country from the begining people call sita ram or radhey krishan so how one can expect good for males in a country like india in matters of domestic violence male ssucidal ratio is double of females it can be checked through govt records even but our govt is blindfolded 1.One married man commits suicides every 9 Minutes and 20 seconds. 2.Difference between suicides of men and women is substantial only when the wife is associated (literally/legally) with the man – refer suicide statistics of married men/women and separated men/women. 3.Since the 63 years of Indian independence, not a single rupee has been allocated / spent for men’s welfare. 4.Indian Govt. has no National Commission for Men to look into issues of men. 5.Men pay close to 82% of all the taxes collected and pay more tax at the same salary levels compared to women. 6.Indian Govt. has a welfare ministry for children, women and even animals but not for men. 7.Indian men face the brunt of 15 anti-male gender obsessed unconstitutional laws which treat all men as criminals and “Guilty until Proven Innocent”. These laws are just a tool of extortion to be used against innocent men. More are in pipeline. 8.Men are subjected to rampant domestic violence which kills on an average 14,791 Indian husbands annually. (Refer section on Domestic Violence below.) 9.Men are forced to live a “sub-human” existence with social memes like “Male Dominated World” and “Women Empowerment” which quintessentially gags the communication channel for men and leads to infringement of their basic human and constitutional rights. 10.Most risky, menial and dangerous jobs like firefighting, army, police, plumbing, climbing buildings, working in mines, working in hotel kitchens, working in railway pantries, distributing newspapers early morning, and so on and so forth are thrust onto men sans any recognition. Men are like salt in food, whose presence is mandatory yet inconspicuous. 11.Men face 3 times more chance of getting killed in a road accident and 5 times more chance of getting kidnapped and yet there is no exclusive law to protect men – rather there are anti-male laws to persecute men. 12.More male children die compared to female children during child birth. 13.Men face unwarranted “media-trials” and “media-convictions” becoming a prey to the trend of “alarmism” because on one hand where the media happily brandishes men as criminals and aggressors, most irresponsibly it does not make amends when the same men are found innocent later on. - Husbands – 58192
- Wives – 31300
- this is figure of year 2009
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Sonu Gurnani, Branch Manager/Regional Manager, indraprastha automobiles pvt ltd
| 05 09 2012 09:43:51 +0000
sometimes...some might do..but that doesn't stops their rights..
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ujjval jain, Retail, Retail
| 10 13 2011 19:54:18 +0000
All the major historical world wars were caused due to women. Even in households, women are so demanding and never satisfied, even sexually. I agree that women have achieved a lot, but thats bec men let them. If they were to fight face to face, it would be an infinite battle!!!
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neha singh, Content Editor, Avestia Corp
| 10 13 2011 12:30:12 +0000
Many women make it a big deal, dont men require security and safety?? They are also made of flesh and blood only. In many families u see women really abuse their husbnads, fathers, brothers etc just to get that extra advantage. So many men live like sissies and doormats, its disgusting. If u claim women's equality, why do u want special security???Im not partial to women bec I knw a lot of manipulative, greedy, sexist, trouble maker women, so this case is solved, out and over!!!Women make a big deal crying and weeeping, but that could probabaly be just a cover up or con job!!!Even after so much reservation and benefits, women are still cry babies, and the oprressed sex, in this century, its pathetic!!!
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neha singh, Content Editor, Avestia Corp
| 10 13 2011 12:26:57 +0000
unless and untill "MEN" think and accept that women are equal to them and there is no difference b/w men and women these rights are meaningful which has been granted by govt
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Sindhu S Manja, visiting faculty, St george college
| 05 05 2011 16:22:32 +0000
bcoz they led and autocratically men comes through this picture
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JAGADEESAN S, Project Leader/Managing Consultant, Project Consultant
| 05 05 2011 12:03:22 +0000
womwn are misusing their rights
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Ashok Saini, Legal Advisor, District & Sessions court Kaithal
| 03 15 2011 14:21:55 +0000
The laws of this country are outdated and women have to bear the brunt of outdated partners and outdated laws.
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neha singh, Content Editor, Avestia Corp
| 03 15 2011 14:01:02 +0000
It is true that women take disadvantage of the law. For Example, Domestic Violence Act, If we verify in courts in India, most of the women are misusing this act and filing cases against their husband. In another case, if the husband files a petition for Restitution of Conjugal rights before the court where both of them lastly resided. Then if the wife files a petition for divorce before the court where she resides or from her father's place. In this case if the wife files a petition for transfer of the case filed by the husband to the court where she files the case, Immediately the courts will grant permission to transfer the case in favour of the wife. so women are taking disadvantage of law
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Suresh , Freelancer, Law
| 03 15 2011 06:36:54 +0000
Thank you Swapna for inviting me to this debate. The Indian constitution has set equal rights to men and women citizens of the country from its very biginning and this is an admirable feature of Indian Constitution. Problem is activities of human being cannot be controlled by laws - however proper these are! And derogatory attributes like 'dishonesty' or 'cruelty' or 'arrogance' cannot be attached only to men. There are women involved in criminal/offensive activities and these kinds of women obviously try to take advantage of being women before the law or society.
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Kathakali Mukherjee, Asst. manager - functional, Wipro Technologies
| 05 15 2010 06:40:32 +0000
No law is flawless and there is always ways to take advantage, laws enacted in favor of women are directed more towards the rural, uneducated women, they are still not provided equal rights and they form the major part of our society. A handful of urban women may (and are) taking advantage of such laws. Here i would like to add that there is good and bad in every society, community, religion and gender forms no exceptions. There are evil in plenty to defame the fairer sex.
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Satadru Shastri, Partner, Mukherjee & Shastri
| 05 13 2010 17:44:23 +0000
Good day, Interesing topic, but you have to accept one thing. கோபத்துடன் இருக்கும் போது பேசுங்கள் , அப்போது தான் நீங்கள் வாழ் நாள் முழுவதும் வருத்தப்படும் படியாக ஒரு பேச்சை பேசியிருப்பீர்கள்......... Yes, the above Tamil message gives one message. Ofcourse, Swapna Das asked about one message which is not acceptable to say Yes or No. Clearly i will tell about the present and i will tell about it why these issues has been raised nowadays. Firstly: Thiruvalluvar has written kural about 10 nos. which is talking about men and women are equally live and both are must adjustable however anyone will do mistake another one should take responsible and try to correct it or atleast make them to understand. PURITY IN ACTION: The good external help confers is worldly gain; By action good men every needed gift obtain. Thirukural (66: 651) When we started to talk about this rights, before Rajaram Mohan Rai or before Bharathi. However Olden days, women came out for studies and work. Afterwards, when our country become as a slave to the other coutries those days onwards for security and women health, which are the rules stated to protect in their house after attending age. After we left out those other country people, we never understand that why we are keeping women inside house and made them to be as a slave. Even many of the villege still is being like this. some of the Town still has some kind of mis leading talks and happens are alive. Ok, let me come to the present point; Government has been seeing some problem for womens, so that Government never made any rights but it is reacting to show and bring the women from the misleading path. Many of the womens are being correct with themself as well as in their family, working place and this society. Very few womens are not understanding the real and they want to speak in stage and conduct one small / big group to talk about the rights. However according Swapnadas question, some womens are taking as advantage to mis lead their rights for woment itself. Finally my conclusion; Either man or women, even there are many rights from the government; which is not acceptable or protectable. Either Man or Women must realize and be a nice partner with Well understanding with Faith. These two things only Thiruvalluvar, Bharathi, Vivekananda, Aravindar, Annai Meera, Annai Therasa and many unknown to the world whoever suffered and made their voice to this world. Please don't make any mislead question or don't give any wrong opinion to many of them. Man is some time taking advantage also women is taking advantage but both will suffer in the end. (you can refer any case or anybody) Thanks for all that giving me the chance to write it. So final conclusion: Don't look for rights. Man or Women should understand eachother with Faith, then there is no need for Rights. If you look for rights, there are some habits or our relations or our beloved ones should be left out from us. Be as Bee Pray ~ Please ~ Practice Until Something Happen. Your's M.K.Thamaraiselvan
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M.K.Thamaraiselvan , Oracle AppsDBA cum Oracle ERP Product Integration Manager - Senior Consultant, HCL Singapore ~ Deutsche Bank Singapore
| 05 13 2010 16:38:00 +0000
thanks Swapna for referal.any law that is enacted to be free from prejudice and flaws as we cannot turn out the possibilities of misuse by anyone irrespective of gender.but today i think we are in an era of almost equally strong in all aspects.
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jairaj shyam prasad, Production Manager, BOSCH Ltd
| 05 13 2010 14:21:12 +0000
Giving right is not a problem. If a women misuses the law to get husband into the Legal Tangle what are the repurcussions? The people have to be equally protected. What ever are currently available if they are implemented properly, then there is no reason for us to debate.
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NeilKiran Vulchi, Sr Consultant, Precise Software Solutions
| 05 13 2010 09:42:48 +0000
no
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Ajay Ziz, Dy. Registrar,, University of Jammu
| 05 13 2010 09:31:43 +0000
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Rights that are given to women are good, but the only problem is that they are unable to utilize it properly. Women's should be educated properly so that they can use their right properly which will surely give the positive result.
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Pavan Sadashiv, Team Leader, Theorem India Pvt Ltd
| 05 09 2012 10:12:14 +0000
Yes, i agree with Swapna. One should appreciate Indian women even after the law is made to secure her. She knows her values for her culture, family and her upbringing. She has enough patience to tolerate.......when the limitation exceeds, then only the………. approach.......so only the women is suffering; the death rate of women are more till today......why are u not asking about it SIR?
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parimala.c.wagh , Tech Architect, freelance
| 10 13 2011 09:39:17 +0000
GOVT. should do it much before to give these rights to women. It will work as empowerment of a Indian Woman. I support your views, Swapna.
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SHRIKANT MANOHAR DANKE, Project Manager, Phadnis Infrastructur Ltd
| 05 05 2011 14:23:37 +0000
Law is for security only.Anyone found breaking the law is subject of jurisdiction of the Hon'ble Court.The debate herein referred sugggests that women have been crushed like anything from the time since long.Let us refer Section 498(A) of CRPC. Any woman opens her mouth only when the water level crosses the brim and limit. They have too freedom for living peacefully and comfortably then why due to a handful of people they should be ignored from getting their fundamental right.
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KUMAR SAURABH JHA, HR Manager
| 05 05 2011 13:58:09 +0000
Why do you think woman take disadvatage of the law. Most people in this country are like that. Attitude is only I should survive even if it mean at the cost of others. The attitude of sharing and surviving is vanishing slowly. If only men come out of their age old relegious thinking and woman them selves start thinking that they are not slaves of men the there is no nedd for any law to safeguard womens interest. There are many cases where section 398A is missused by many woman. But then what about those men and inlaws who really creat problems for woman? So dont make an issue out of such laws. At present these laws are required to safeguard womens interest than mens. Because it is men who have been treaating woman like their slaves.
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K LAXMINARAYANA RAO, Freelancer
| 03 15 2011 12:33:10 +0000
Yes you are correct Ms.Swapna. i agree with you.
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NATTERAJA R. ARIKRISHNAN, GM-Projects, Bentec Electricals & Electronics Pvt. Ltd
| 07 04 2010 11:08:42 +0000
Swapna you are absolutely right govenment has not grant any thing extra,its only what womens deserve. And i dont think that women take undue advantage of there rights
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Rupesh Badjatya, Manager, Rosy Blue
| 05 18 2010 06:15:15 +0000
women has got equal right and they do not go illegal.
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puneet , Manager Admin
| 05 17 2010 17:34:13 +0000
THANK YOU SWAPNA. IRRESPECTIVE OF WHETHER GOVT HAS GRANTED MANY RIGHTS TO THE WOMEN,MISUSE CAN BE DONE BY BOTH MEN AND WOMEN AND WOMEN CAN NOT BE SINGULARLY RESPONSIBLE.ANYBODY WOULD ONLY LIKE TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ANY SITUATION OR LAW.
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s.baalu , Consultant, XYZ LTD
| 05 15 2010 13:15:56 +0000
Dear Swapna I think you are unduly worried about the privileges that may be misused by women. Dont worry and let women savour this privilege granted to the women of India so early. In fact India is the only country which gave the women right to vote along with women at the beginning itself, its not a mean achievement. Women need to be protected. Please dont forget that the entire human civilization has always been male dominated and women seldom had thier say in any important matters of the social customs or religion or economic decision. Since ages women have always been confined to play second fiddle to men and this feeling has been conditioned to the future generations too right from the beginning. But, thanks to the West and general concern of human rights that have compelled the govts of the world to give equal rights to women in all walks of life and a giant step has already been taken by this govt towards empowerment of women by passing of the Women's reservation bill in Rajya Sabha. Women needs to be suffiiently empowered and protected so that the entire family gets benefitted and hence the country. It may happen sometimes that some women may take advantage of this and make unduly demands, but so be it. I am all for it, after all even stringest of laws have loopholes but it doesnt mean you dont make a law!
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Prabhakar Srivastava, Director
| 05 14 2010 07:29:56 +0000
There are three distinct class of women: - The first one are those educated or otherwise beleive in our tradition which tells (Na stri swatantryamarhasi) that women are not fit to have freedom and become slaves of men and slaves in inlaws house willingly.
- The second, educated or otherwise wants to have laws and regulation, reservation and other policies which they might use or misuse for the benifit of their family (Husband and children) in public they show they are using the freedom they have and in private they are willing slaves of men.
- The third category educated or otherwise not bothered about laws, regulations reservation and other policies and know how to tame their husbands and inlaws and make them to dance to her tunes. In most cases husbands and inlaws may dance to her tunes because they beleive their all good things are happening in their family and the husband because of bahu (Kalguna). If bad things are happening to the husband and inlaws then they migh burn their bahu or send her back to mothers house.
Such being the case any policy, reservation for women law, rules and regulations for women empowerment is meaningless without reforming and modernising our society. At present what ever is being done for women empowerment in India is to a large extent because of International (Developed nations) pressure. All those women participating in this discussion should ask themselves a question: do they want a male child or girl child? do they want to work after marriage or not? do they beleive educational qualification is for gaining knowledge or for getting married or for earning livelyhood and for getting fiancial indipendamce? How many of you feel that you have a resposnibility to your parents like a son and also want equal share in parents property? How much time you are willing to spend your time after marriage to take care of your parents financially as well as physically like a son? If you are in love with a boy do you consider discussing with him about your resopnsiblity to your parents like he has responsiblity to his parents? In India people who beleive that girl is a paraya dhan and liability do not have any right to ask for equality and freedom for women. So gentlemen we have to reform our society first and do it fast. But what is happening today. Almost all TV Chanels broadcast astrology based programmes and Temple based programmes which preech male dominated socety and is spoiling the society. If you think of equality instead of horoscope matching match the blood, match the genetic factors, match the mindsets and determine if you match tempermentally, genetically so that your behaviours are complimentaing each other and your child is healthy. If you dont want to go for work after marriage under the pretext of taking care of home and children and inlaws dont take away the opportunity of a male by competing with him to get college admission. If you want to be a home maker then you only need training in reading, writing and understanding languages, about health / public health, sanitation, about food and nutrition including micronutrition, knowledge of first aid, beauty and skin care, fashion and how to look beautiful ad greate so that you please your man. If you just want to be a home maker only then chose any other course in the collegae which are usefull as a house wife otherwise you will be wasting Nations Capital by depriving the opportunity for others who want to work after marriage or men who would contribute to the economy of the country. Of course as a home maker you will definetly creat an atmosphere so that your husbands productivity will improve and if you take care of your childrens properly (Many dont) their future also will be bright. SO chose what you want to be.
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K LAXMINARAYANA RAO, Freelancer
| 05 14 2010 07:24:24 +0000
I agree with Swapna on this. The women folk of our Country will not derive any advantage being women. The exception may be there in case there is any hidden motive.
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Rathin Deb, Advisor and retail consultant, currently as Branch Manager, Tower Infotech Ltd
| 05 14 2010 06:03:32 +0000
Dear Rajesh, a nice topic and Swapna thanks for the referral, It could have been better if Rajesh might have been explained i little bit. We cannot say blindly that women are taking any advantages of the reservation given to them. It is the system as Rajesh written. May be in few cases it will be disadvantage for men. Police will take men on a ride over a women's complaint. But that type of some instant not at all coming into the category of this topic
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RAHUL SMITH, Freelancer, Radio, TV & Films
| 05 13 2010 15:28:56 +0000
I do not know which are the laws which give an undue advantage to women. As far as I can see , women are under a disadvantage in several areas in our society , and wherever they are given an advantage , I am all for it. Consider the case of seats reserved for women in buses ; in any culture , women , especially those who are pregnant , or those with children in their arms , or those who are elderly , deserve to be given courtesy. If this does not happen , then by law , a few seats have to be reserved for them. When we do not do the right thing on our own , the law takes away our freedom of choice , and forces us to do the right thing. There is nothing wrong in this.
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K. NARAYAN, None, None
| 05 13 2010 12:47:25 +0000
Men and women have equal rights. IF at all ladies are given the preference what is bad in that? This is our culture. I am very sorry that now a days people are not respecting this. Yes in few cases women also misuse this advantage.Immediate step is to be taken to ensure the security of the women.
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Krishna Bhardwaj, Lyrics Writer, Freelancer
| 05 13 2010 11:02:07 +0000
womens take advantage of the soft corner males have for them nad giving rights is the point of equality govt.is giving to the womens.
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shubhasish chakraborty, Cards-Sales Officer/Executive, Jagran Prakashan
| 05 13 2010 10:49:34 +0000
i support Swapna,Equal rights particulaly need enfocement so there is nothing wrong if complainant being a woman moves the police promptly.
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Mohammad Bakhsh, Consultant(Civil), Rail Vikas Nigam Limited
| 05 13 2010 10:32:36 +0000
NO, THEY DONT MIS USE THE RIGHTS
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Krishna Murty, CONSULTANT ON BUILDINGS, IRRGATION PROJECTS, CIVIL ENGINEER
| 05 13 2010 09:27:43 +0000
women have been exploited by men since....a fair long time. now they are not just sitting in the homes, but working with men & they have equal rights too...but still, men community (some of men) do not want them to work with them, so just to make themselves secure, there may be some women taking advantages of the laws...
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Nandakishor Bharati, Production Manager, Dabaga Veg & Fruit Canning Co Ltd, Iringa (Tanzania)
| 05 12 2010 05:34:46 +0000
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