Anand I agree with your point of view.
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Rathin Deb, Advisor and retail consultant, currently as Branch Manager, Tower Infotech Ltd
| 07 26 2011 10:20:46 +0000
actually i am not sure where to post regarding this topic, i need another option, "Corporate should be away from academia" let me tell why Corporate biggies want people who are like production line components, they don't want to train the people using their money. if a corporate wants SAP, they want academic institution to teach that as syllabi. If the requirement is for cobol then they want that as one subject. They just don't care about basics. The indian corporates provides 5 days training and give certificates as " certified" and bill their customers. Rather i want education institution to provide quality basics. It would be best if academic institution provide training on how to fish rather than how to fish in river, how to fish in lake etc, it will be helpful. Most of the institutes just say the syntax of a language not the concepts behind that. A person who is stong in concepts can use any language to develop any code, a person with no understanding of concept will use Google to code. Industry ready can't be expected from freshers, because most freshers are either bookworm or carefree. bookworms knows only books (never the concepts), some carefree knows concepts but needs fine tuning. Anyway IMO corporates must shut their everything and never interfere in academics.
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albert arul prakash, Product specialist, Consona Software Pvt Limited
| 07 25 2011 20:10:42 +0000
Absolutely right anand.....basics cannot change.........newtons theory could not be different for corporates and students......efforts from the students is required to know and undersstand the theory ....application comes next......lets not blame others....
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Navanath d, vernekar, Project Manager, terranova real estate goa pvt. ltd.
| 07 25 2011 10:14:02 +0000
Corporate can do something only if institutions work on the practical aspect of thing, rather than remaining only theoretical and giving no knowledge on the practical aspect of things.
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Jasmin Pawar, HR Manager, HR GLOBE CONSULTING
| 07 25 2011 10:04:05 +0000
What corporates can do when the syllabi and pedagogy of education is decided by the Academics and the policy makers in the UGC? Unless and until the outcome of college education matches with the objectives of the corporates' requirements, further induction training at the corporate level will be a debatable point!
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S. Muralidharan, Executive Director, Knowledge Foundation & Campus Around the Corner
| 07 25 2011 09:19:27 +0000
How can you expect a man made entity to be perfect? The whole idea of business is to cheat, and why are you trying to be a saint among demons???
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neha singh, Content Editor, Avestia Corp
| 07 23 2011 10:33:38 +0000
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First of all we have to understand the fact that our educational ystem is not industry tuned. It is only learning by rote. Actually industry cannot be blamed for the present situation. In a system where govt or the education body calls the shots with no input from the industry, what else can be expected. Corporates on their part have to invest in manpower training. The induction program that most corporates have only imparts knowledge of the organisation and its founders and not how to approach the task on hand. If need be Corporate should have employees sign a bond of 2-3 yrs and then invest in training them for a whole month on their business process before the employees are handed down their responsibilities. This should be across levels and not just for the trainees or newly inducted.
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Jaygopal Raghavan, Marketing Manager, Landmark Group
| 08 09 2011 12:09:05 +0000
Corporates are made up of average Indians and an average person`s level of INTEGRITY IS VERY LOW SO HOW CAN WE EXPECT CORPORATES TO DO GREAT THINGS ?
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dinesh kumar sharma, ZONAL SALES MANAGER - NORTH, WOCKHARDT LTD
| 07 26 2011 16:47:08 +0000
It is solely responsibility of an individual/candidate to fulfill the requirement of the corporate & should not expect such things from it. Thanks for referral, Anand.
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SHRIKANT MANOHAR DANKE, Project Manager, Phadnis Infrastructur Ltd
| 07 25 2011 15:50:07 +0000
It can be happened that acadamicaly strong candidates have poor professional track record and acadamicaly poor candidates have excellent professional track records. Practical knowledge is required to fullfil the professional need of the organisation and this can be devloped only when the organisaion take intrest for the professional devlopement of the employee. University can teach only theoritical knowledge, How to utilise the ability of the employee that is the job of organisation. No organisation select any employee without prior intrewe and after the selection of the emplyee they cant blam to the university.
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Vrushank Bharatkumar Dave, Area Business Manager, Elder Pharmaceutical Ltd
| 07 25 2011 15:48:10 +0000
Why expect corporates to do this?, Most of them just consider employees to be disposable components of production line!
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Abhijit Anand Prabhudan, Admin/Facilities Manager, Ca*****
| 07 25 2011 12:49:43 +0000
Right Mr. Vernekar ! Newton's laws will not change. However, the practical application of the knowledge needs to be updated ! And we are trying to see how corporates can help in making the academic delivery current ! And lets not forget, that this initiative will be at the cost of the University / colleges and the beneficiary will be corporates ! If companies can "force" governments to make roads / elevated highways closer to IT parks, no reason they cannot influence to make the syllabus an updated one !
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Samir Kagalkar, Director, eMBArkers (www.embarkers.in)
| 07 25 2011 10:58:19 +0000
Beg to differ: The corproates can take the UGC syllabus as the "base" minimum and then try to build the super structure of what " the corporates require". UGC cannot and will not stop ! And yes, instead of cribbing that "75% of students" are not employable, its better if corporates try to be part of the solution!
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Samir Kagalkar, Director, eMBArkers (www.embarkers.in)
| 07 25 2011 10:55:50 +0000
yes, corporate is not doing enough, as they cannot do much.Our Indian education system is so rigid, though it is showing transformations, yet it has its own shortcomings.I don't think corporates have double standards as till date they have been entertaining students and have been nurturing them to grow in their organizations.Education has always given the capability to grasp what you are being trained at and it has been successful in doing that.A lot needs to be done on part of education ministry to make a platform for the students before they take train to the corporate sector.Alone corporate is handicapped to initiate the. change
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Jagdeep Kaur (vp@hrglobeconsulting.com), Vice President, HR Globe Consulting
| 07 25 2011 09:57:10 +0000
Coporate india needs to get involved in depth with the collages to ensure that quality is part of the education scenario. They are the end-users of the product of our education system. To merely stand aside and criticize is a luxury that they cannot afford and must not indulge in. Off late I find most students cannot write a proper sentence in any language leave alone english!! Their technical skills are all programmed in to them by an education system that seems to produce zhobies who cannot think outside of what they have been taught! While i dont want comment like some of our corporate founders (!!) i am definitely of the opinion that greater - much much greater - interaction is called for between academics and industry in just about any field.
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RAMESH KANDADAI, Principal Consultant, ARM Consultants
| 07 25 2011 09:56:23 +0000
We are not expecting perfection from the corporates. Nor are we expecting them (or ourselves) to be saints. Its simply a matter of self interest that corporates must partner with academia, not as charity !
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Samir Kagalkar, Director, eMBArkers (www.embarkers.in)
| 07 23 2011 16:11:44 +0000
- HR Heads (including the so called L&D) hardly interact with academic institutions.
- There is no contribution in terms of inputs for syllabus preparation
- No key focus areas are given as pointers to faculty
- No time for faculty interaction (the key levers who can make a difference!)
- Not involving faculty in assessing the fresh hires to inform them where they lack and how to improve on this?
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Samir Kagalkar, Director, eMBArkers (www.embarkers.in)
| 07 23 2011 06:25:45 +0000
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