Fatwa issued against 'Vande Mataram'

If not VANDE MATARAM then what? can anyone please answer this well I find no replacement for this masterpiece 

NO NOT AT ALL THE FATWA ISSUED AGAINST VANDE MATRAM IS UNDEMOCRATIC AND UNPATROTIC.SUCH PEOPLE MUST NOT BE SPARED . THEY MUST BE PROSECUTED BY THE GOVERMENT OF STATE / CENTRE . LIVING IN THE COUNTRY AND FORGETTING ITS OBLIGATION SHOULD NOT BE FORBIDDEN.

ANY WAY I PERSONNALY CONDEM THE FATWA.

JAI HIND.

"Vande Mataram" ke viruddha fatwa jari karna ghor nindaniya hai . Is prakar ke ghrinit karya se rastra virodhi takaton ko bal milta hai. Aatah is prakar ke karyon ki ninda ki jani chahiye.

Dear Readers, this issue is still alive and debating on Toostep is amazing!! I referred before also,  be frank, how many Hindus or so called Patriotic Indians can sing Vande Mataram without a copy in their hand? many of us do not even know to sing "Janaganamana" fully, including many of our MPs and MLAs [A news caption  was telecasted  somedays ago in some TV Channel] How many can sing "Vande Mataram"? i am also against this FATWA which was not at all needed at this juncture! What is a common man or a common muslim's role in this? When Fatwa was passed, none of the common muslims were taken into confidence, and also these leaders are in no way directly represent the whole community? But if you ask the opinion to a common muslim as we are doing now, it is surely they would support their leader and religion!!let us stop this becoming and looking good factor by making others "WRONG"

@Abdul Rashid, and all those claimants of Fatwa justifiers on name of Supreme God “Allah” and the religious book ki Duhai “Quran”, You want the blunt side of truth, Pl answer the following:

There are many muslims who sing Vande matram. Do you’ll then de-religionise  them?

  Find out all national anthems around the word that have worship of motherland/fatherland and ask Deoband to issue fatwa for those too.

 Sri Lankan anthem also worships motherland so are sri lankan muslims committing shirk by singing it?

It is also haram to use KAFIR’s donation to perform Hajj. Why don’t they issue fatwa against that? They can also issue fatwa about muslims making money in hindu holy sites such as vaishno devi? Why should they consume food bought from kafir money?

You live in India you avail all its facilities and you want to term the national feelings as per your suitability on religion. (Make the cake and have it too.)

There are lots of good things written in Quran .. Please read those things rather issuing Fatwas...

Dayanand thanks for the referral.

I was trying to avoid this topic, but couldn’t resist long.

Firstly, this time mostly media print and electronic have reframed themselves from making this a national uproar, therefore I would request Ms.kavitha, who herself is a media person to be a little more judicious. Let’s not our biases intervene in our professional work profile.

Now the issue, well if you talk about principles, I agree with you, a secular state should not support such activities. But in the ultimate analysis I do not blame muslims but the govt. As, I have said, in a democracy, people will ask for the moon. The political class wants to appease; the issue is how we can get the political class to be disciplined.

Earlier when it was BJP rule, they imposed the song to be sung in every school, now the Congress opens up minority aid with issuing the minority education division of the Human Resource Development Ministry, which oversees education, during Singh’s tenure, had approved a recommendation that now makes madrassa certificates recognised by state madrassa boards equivalent to CBSE certificates for job purposes.

A madrassa certificate made equivalent to that of the CBSE may appear to be tempting enough, but in reality, this will only accentuate relative inequalities between the two systems of school education.

And Mr. Chidambaram goes to a small function at Deobandh and thus the subject of minority and appeasement takes a role of national integrity: To be Sung or Hung, as the Ulemas bring Allah to preview over Nation. Making once again the focus on religion which is being questioned right, left and centre.

Whether you are Khan or Pran, it does not count but what counts is being breathing and living in a Secular Republic and enjoying Secularism, which by definition, excludes a state role in religious affairs and a religious role in statecraft, any religious body should think twice before coming out with politically incorrect statements.

Mr. Mohammad Ali - if you mean Pakistan will give sherters to all the muslims in India, they wont for they cant - that country will die of the extremely over population.

As for Hindu's, they will get more than half of the world to stay for its humanity the nation is identified with not the narrow ans shallow minds of religion.

its lame infact disgraceful for a secular nation.

I, for one, believe in the sanctity of Islam and am full of admiration for the manner in which the Holy Koran has laid down explicit code of conduct for universal brotherhood, rich caring for the poor and man's duty to the women.  

As instances of the past (Jewish and Christian) loomed large and when the life of the Prophet Himself was under  threat, He might have, in His infinite wisdom, deemed it fit to put an end to further dilution of the Divine message and successors misinterpreting the Divine message. Hence, the Holy Koran from Allah as revealed to the Prophet became indisputable forever and a seal was put upon Prophet Mohammed. 

My view - I may be right or wrong.

Be it the fatwa issued in the case of rape of the daughter-in-law by the father-in-law or the current one, we must remember that whosoever is claiming to issue fatwa on the basis of the Holy Koran, do not belong to the same category as the Holy Prophet to whom Allah deemed it fit to send his message for humanity. Powerplay and ego increase the distance between Man and God. We can only offer prayer to Allah or God or Brahman to once again bring level playing field and destroy power-brokers as in the past.

Be it ancient Hinduism, Buddhism, Judaism, Christianity or Islam, all faiths have undergone the tortuous twists brought about by the power-brokers and have helped the politico-religious nexus to ensure that the common man lives amidst a spew of venomous hatred, insecurity and mistrust.

By whatever name called, God is one. Whatever may be our religious denomination, all of us are children of the same God. Once this is accepted, my lay Muslim brethren may not have any difficulty to understand that "Vande Mataram" united the entire India against the British Rule - including Pakistan and Bangladesh of today.

Islam does not permit paying obeisance to anyone except the invisible God Almighty Allah; in the same vein, no lesser mortal has ever been allowed to be depicted as the Holy Prophet. This is a fundamental Islamic faith and has got nothing to do with patriotism, love for one's country, etc.,

Having said that, I would put forth a humble argument - Motherland cannot be equated to Allah. But motherland is as sacred  or more sacred than the Holy Shrines and thus occupies a pride of place in every citizen's heart. The enlightened Muslim may not see this as unIslamic if motherland is accepted as a proud creation of Allah.

Regardless of religion, a mother is precious - the father comes a distant second. 

A pluralistic Society can thrive and flourish only by accepting harmony. Not by driving a wedge among people under the flimsiest of excuses. 

I am proud to say that I belong to a country where my faith not only allows my intellect unshackled freedom but does not recognize religious divide.

There is neither a majority community nor are there minority communities.

Together, all of us have to wage a united fight against Evil - eradication of hunger, poverty, illiteracy, malnutrition and prevalence of money and muscle power - so that we have a 100% empowered citizens of India. 

Allah or Christ or Eshwar will be glad if we achieve that instead of indulging in petty squabbles, killings, rape, looting and plunder - all in the name of protecting God's faith.

If God is omnipresent, omniscient and omnipotent as all of us believe, then let us not humor those who do business in the name of God while innocents lose their lives, honor and belongings. 

A long one and a bit tangential too. But I wanted to utilize an opportunity given.

JED and other such institutes who claim to be be so called "THEKEDARS" of muslims are only exploiting people.I'm surprised to see that even educated people also adhere to such fanatic ideas.Ask them one thing-is there religion feeding them OR India ,so why feel ashamed in bowing to it.And ideas like bowing to anything thing else than Allah is mere distortion of religious texts by mean religious fanatics ,since all religions are great and the learned ones of these could have never said such nonsense.

Kavita and others, it is purely an religious issue and as for as nation is concerned, we are all Hindustanis and no doubt about it, but these political and religious leaders are the one who really does not have work or accountability, it is as if there is problem in pak they say kashmir, if there is a problem in Tamil nadu internally, the CM will say Cauvery! this is to just make to feel their presence. what is FATWA? I personally went to Azmeer and Gulbarga Durgass, the vibrations i got there were commendable, the treatment even though i am a bramhin [RSS, BJP] was touching and moving,  i donot mind visiting these shrines as many times as i visit our Tirupati, it is just the mindset which neet to be changed, these HINDU mutts and Muslim Law boards, Christian Missionaries need to focus much on reality and practical problems and try to see if anything is common between the religions and honestly should unite "INDIANS" irrespective of anything under the sun, can we dream a day before we die to say together "God is one with different Names" or All Dharmaas are Equal?!! at least let us start our thinking from today!!

Vande Mataram case cannot be analysed in isolation. It has different understanding in different time at different historical context. vande Matarm during 1905 was different than Vande mataram during 1947 & also different post indipendence. At the present context issuing a fatwa against Vande Mataram citing religious reason is uncalled for particularly when there is no mandatory provision in constitution to sing compulsorily national song to remain a citizen. You are as much as the citizen of the party irrespective whether you sing naional song or not.

A fatwa at this stage only iritate people & may fuel provocative & fanatic politics. The Ullemas instead of focussing on these ridiculous issues, should focus on allround development of their community.

"Bharat Ma ko jo kare na naman, Chhod de keh do usse ki wo mera watan,

Mazhab Pyara hai jise Bharat nahi, Iski mitti me wo ho na dafan "

Chhod do mera ye watan...

VANDEMATARAM...

I SO SO SO agree with Man, the SEA should be the best place for such thinkers, image the Audacity they have, i think they should legally sued for even issuing s stupid fatwa or whatever they call it....huh even when left alone THEY FIGHT AMONG THEMSELVES differentiating on terms of SHIA or SUNNI...these people have never learned to live in peace when it is not the HINUDS then they fight among themselves 

Hahahhahahhahahahahahha............Few pandits sat around and started talking about the whiteness of moon and its light.......but in all discussion they forget that moon has no light of its own......its just shining with a third source .........sun. 

Muslims says......they wont bow down before anything except allah.....and non-muslims picked up their collars for their underestimation of patriotism. I apologise  for being a bit blunt........but truth is.....they both are Simply Fanatic......someone in the name of something. 

For those who are patriotic : Please tell me......from where India and similer country-like names came....What if this current country 'India' be divided by politicians into 20 different segments and termed as Independent Nations.....then for whom/which part  ..who will show his/her loyalty?

For Muslims: if you can not bow down except before 'Allah' then please let me know....who has made this beautiful world , this beautiful life.......Allah or someone else.......if only Allah then .....how can you love the Creators without loving his Creativity? Its like I will bow down before the Artist but will not appraise his Art, I will love 'Mother' but not his 'kids'? ........what sort of love towards Allah it is? 

No its not a religion which any Muslim is following.......because the very basis of Muslimism.......Shukarallahmdilliah....."I thanks to God" is not there.

Either it be hindu or muslim or any other religious ......all are satisfying their Very Intrinsic Super Personal Ego of satisfying themselves as a part of something. 

Nobody cares of experimenting teachings in their own personal lives......but gives them their own meaning and make it available for other.......

It is a good piece of information for all

What ever your faith is nation comes first. Whether you are in India or in Britain or Japan or Australia or in U.A.E. orin any other country you are bound by some basic things like you have to honour the constitution, the judiciary, the Govt., and all acts of the Govt. unless they are inhuman. If your faith contradicts with any of the things than you have the option of going to the court for rederassal. If you are issuing 'Fatwa" like things than it means you don't honour the Govt. in any way. If this is the case than you are an offender. A thief can also justify his acts by giving justification to satisfy you. But that does not in any way justify his or her acts. When the  constitution was enforced, some 60 years you had the option of saying look these are the things which are against our faith so we will not follow them please make an exception for us. But once you have accepted it in toto you are bound by it. Passing a 'Fatwa', is only politicing the thing. If in any way your demands are met than tommorrow you will say I will not honour the judiciary and day after tommorow you will say I will not honour the cosntitution etc. etc. Which means the more your demands are met the more they will become. So we should act in a just and right way.    

Dear Farah Fatima,,if bowing to anyone else other than Allah is Haram than Lakhs of Muslims Bowing in front of Dargas are Kafir ,,,,,right ??? Please Dont make stupid excuses...to hide ur Ignorance......

Hello all of us So called Indians & patriots,

  I have been seeing this debate taking ugly shape. I am nobody to reprimand to any of us who is posting his/her thoughts but hey let me ask few Questions

1) Is fighting on Vande Mataram real problem we are facing? Is it our nations top priority to just keep singing Vande Mataram all the time while our neighbouring countries are planning dastardly activities against us?

2) Is it necessary to keep fighting all the time over the patriotic lines of Vande mataram. As we say secularly that no nation is against a particular religion & same holds true for religion against nation. then why are giving importance to such trivial issues?

3) I would like to ask generally, why it took almost 90 years for Jamait-e-Ulema Hind to decide few lines in "Vande Mataram" r against Islam??????? As Jamait-e-Ulema Hind was established in 1919 & song was first sung on 1896 i.e. 113 years back.

4) I have seen one cheap thinker here who was speaking like child saying about shelter & other Islamic countries. I dont find interesting to reply to that fellow but to just laugh at his thinking limits...

5) finally, WHO ARE WE?? Its 60 yrs n above our independence n still we r.....

Their is nothing which can stop us as one nation and singing national song is our pride . Nation is above any religion and caste or race.

who say it is against our religion to sing national song are not Nationalist.They wants to divide the country again for religion.

This is the answer to every1 questions...

Meaning of Vande Mataram as translated by Shri Aurobindo:I bow to thee, Mother,
richly-watered, richly-fruited, cool with the winds of the south,
dark with the crops of the harvests, the Mother !
Her nights rejoicing in the glory of the moonlight,
Her lands clothed beautifully with her trees in flowering bloom,
Sweet of laughter, sweet of speech,
The Mother, giver of boons, giver of bliss!
Terrible with the clamorous shout of seventy million throats,
And the sharpness of swords raised in twice seventy million hands,
Who sayeth to thee, Mother, that thou art weak?
Holder of multitudinous strength, I bow to her who saves,
To her who drives from her the armies of her foemen, the Mother!
Thou art knowledge, thou art conduct,
thou art heart, thou art soul,
for thou art the life in our body.
In the arm thou art might, O Mother,
In the heart, O Mother, thou art love and faith,
It is thy image we raise in every temple.
For thou art Durga holding her ten weapons of war,
Kamala at play in the lotuses
And speech, the goddess, giver of all lore, to thee I bow!
I bow to thee, goddess of wealth, pure and peerless,
Richly-watered, richly-fruited, the Mother!
I bow to thee, other, dark-hued, candid,
Sweetly smiling, jeweled and adorned,

The holder of wealth, the lady of plenty, the Mother! It may be seen that the first two stanzas except for the reference to the country as Mother, the hymn does not contain any symbol or imagery which might affect communal sentiments. However, the next stanza equates the motherland as a goddess to be worshipped in a temple, in fact, evoking Durga, the destroyer of enemies, holding her ten weapons of war.  It is pertinent to mention at this stage that in the time of Bankimchandra, Bengal was under the rule of a Mughal Governor and the novel Ananda Math, which is the vehicle used by the author to launch this hymn, is a story based on the militant revolutionary activities of a group of Hindus in the background of the Sanyasi rebellion. In this view of the matter, the hymn attacked the Muslim rule of the day and, in the larger context, it was a battle cry for a resurgent Hindu India while challenging the British imperialist rule.With the emergence of the Muslim League and the Hindu Mahasabha in the first two decades of the 20th century, communal sentiments became polarized. Between 1922 and 1927, there are official records of at least 112 incidents of riot and bloodshed which were precipitated by Hindu-Muslim conflicts in which Vande Mataram had some direct connection.Bankimchandra Chattopadhyaya’s understanding of his social context, his concern was the resurgence of national spirit and the novel as a literary form gave him a platform to launch it. The controversies over its acceptance, both, by the Colonial administration of the day and sections of Muslim community could not have been anticipated by him and in any case these developments took place long after the author’s life time.  Not all Muslim intellectuals adopted this line of thought, however. In Bengal, Rezaul Karim, wrote a critique of Vande Mataram and Ananda Math during this period titled ‘Bankimchandra O Muslim Samaj’ in which he argued that the main reason for this concerted move around 1937 was to draw the Muslims away from the freedom struggle. He goes on to say that in spite of all the reservations, the song gave language to the dumb and courage to the faint-hearted and this remains Bankim’s lasting gift to his country. If writers bring literature into the confusion of the political arena, then it is killed — robbed of its delight. Bankim should be seen, read and understood in literary terms. We have no other claim on him, and even if we do, he is not obliged to fulfil them.”

what ever our religion is

 think it nis anti national to think like that

Dear Mr MOHAMMED IMDAD ALI, I'd like to request you to give references to know where in Holy Quran, it is mentioned saying you love your country, love other religions. This is for my knowledge only.

And one more thing, what u said is...
"If you All Hindus get out all the MUSLIMS from India we have another Muslim country to take Shelter.
If we ALL MUSLIMS get you out of India then you don't have any Shelter ACCEPT THE SEA."

Please go at other places, take shelter and compare the kind of liberties you get there. Hope you understand the meaning of Mohajir, what the world's Muslims calls you. I bet even for Muslims, there can't be better country than Mother India.

I think there can never be a convergence in thoughts and actions when it comes to this community.  And thats the reason they had been seen as a menace across the world.  Speaking about India, I feel that government should part with JnK by making strict arrangement and agreement for leaving each n every Muslim to settle there only.  Its kind of trade-off for a states, JnK and Muslims.  Let Rest of India be Muslim free country.  Because its always observed that these people have dual face and will talk in same religious/extremist language even thou they are highly educated.  Let them leave with piece/terrorism there and make others safe without any conflicts in rest of the India.

So the only ultimate solution can take JnK and be leave this mother India.

Till then entire nation will keep paying hard for somebody's mistake during partition.

Will any of my Muslim Brothers tell me the verses in the National Song which are against Islam ? We just want u to love & respect India as u respect ur Family.So wats the Harm in singing the National Song & showing ur affection towards the Country ??  & Y do muslims follow their religious leaders with thier Eyes & Ears closed,,or rather with their Minds closed??If u follow Islam so much then make wearing of ''Burkha'' compulsory,,dont lend money,,dont earn Interests from Banks,etc,,etc then oppose the National Song..If u dont want to love India & abide by the laws ,,kindly leave..This is just a Publicity Stunt.....

This is the issue to be discussed and everyone in this country to realize that nothing comes above the country even any one`s religion. But the saddest thing is it is only possible in India, and this type of insult done to the country in front of Home Minister is regrettable. I support that suitable legal proceeding to be started, since this country is ruled by law not religion or people or fanatics. This rule of law had been proved many time in this country and of course, it is  very few time only and we believe and trust in that few times.

Why is thyat after so many years did these people found that that some of the words are against the muslim community. It is nothing but a publicity stunt. So instead of putting restriction to the National song these groups need to be banned.

Jan Gan Man..... has a verse "Bharat Bhagya Vidhata". If we take the argument of "Vande Matram", the same applies to "Jan Gan Man" as we can't call Bharat as our Vidhata. So next time the Fatawa will be against "Jan Gan Man". Let nation look for some other National Song, where country will not be worshiped. The Fatwa shows that religion is above Country. I just want to ask my Muslim brothers on what is happening in the name of religion in Pakistan. Are they supporting the same and would like to live in the same atmosphere?

its really a shame a hillarious issue to bring FATWA over WANDE MATRAM. i would like to tell this to few of Muslim friends here  who say this is their religious opinion to bring fatwa over wande martam so sir why dont you realize  you should think about the nation first and then your religion.nation is aboove all religion.do u remember the incidents when  wande matram song filled patriotism in every indian's blood and they didnot care to give their lives for our nation.if you are talking people should care your religious sentimental..ok..i agree..but do u think u are playing with the nation's sentiments and its an assault on the nation's dignity...u better realize it. 

Those who find hard to respect our motherland may please quit from here.

You may like to read the Analysis of Mr. V. Sundaram (ref: http://www.boloji.com/analysis2/0131c.htm ) wherein he had delineated the historical background of "Vande Mataram" song, and how it was opposed by the Muslim League then, etc.  The point to ponder over is the remark by the Prime Minister of Australia, I quote, "

Prime Minister John Howard of Australia last month called a meeting with 13 senior Muslim leaders to map out a joint approach to curbing extremism within the 300,000-strong Islamic community, and obtained pledges of loyalty to Australia. But he was criticized for excluding Muslims considered 'radical,' and yesterday's summit was called by the uninvited Islamic leaders.

Howard told the Muslims of Australia: ' If you want a country which has Sharia law or a theocratic state, then Australia is not for you....If you can't agree with parliamentary law, independent courts, democracy, and would prefer Sharia law and have the opportunity to go to another country, which practices it, perhaps, then, that's a better option.' "

Mr. Sundaram sums it up, thus:

"Unlike the Muslim Clerics of India, the 'Radical' Muslims have pledged their loyalty to Australia'. On the contrary, our Pan-Islamic clerics are pledging their disloyalty to the sacred National Song of Vande Mataram!!! I hope that our learned Muslim Clerics will not issue a fatwa against the Australian Muslims for their declared loyalty to their duly constituted government.  "

MAY SENSE OF GOOD WILL PREVAIL!

May we Hail this Country and Country Men and infuse in them Nationalism and not fight for Petty Issues which will not take us anywhere! The Rule of Land transcends all religions, castes, creeds and gender and let us not divide the country on Religious Sentiments, as we have lofty challenge to fight against terror that is mushrooming and germinating from all corners!

It is as simple as  that, the song entiles only the greatness of our motherland and its resources.the essence of this noble song was that of broader view, irrespective of caste,creed,religion with only one goal of Mother and Motherland are greater than heaven.

If somebody have the review about this, let them come on open stage, with valuable language expertise and show the least religious content in the song.

then we shall think.

or else, this is of no use for debate.

The simple truth is that MOTHER and MOTHER LAND and ONE MUST BE PATRIOTIC TO MOTHER> 

If you agree as an Indian, whether Muslim or Hindu should know to respect mother, father, teachers, elders, nation, society etc. Then only comes individual faiths. If one does not know to respect the respectables, then he can not  be an Indian. Allah will never forbade any Muslim not to respect the nation. Most of the Indian Muslims might have read the Holy Koran since it is in Arabic. What ever their knowledge of Koran is what taught to them my Mullahs. One can definitely say that Prophet Mohammed would have not said anyething which will sow hatred among fellow human beings. It is the vested interest which twists the meaning of the Prophet to divide the people to keep their personal interests alive.   

Mr. Imdad Ali,

   Control your emotions. Words and weapons once launched cannot be taken back! If out of India which place you are referring to... Pakistan!!! Do you know how MUHAJIRS (as they call them) are treated in that country!!! Kindly check! Our mother land is the best place on this earth. Ask those Muslim friends who work in Gulf countries.. How they feel. You cannot find a more free country than India. However, though a Hindu, I will not oppose that FATWA. I understand that islam does not allow sun-moon-earth worship. So that FATWA is OK for me. But We Place Mother, Mother tongue and Mother land in the same strata. No religion will oppose worshiping our.... mother 

Its totally an anti national activity.

Kavitha, I appreciate your well tempered arguments. I hope all participants emulate your approach when discussing a sensitive subject of this nature.

Cdr Nagesh

There are three issues here. How correct is it to issue fatwas against activities that should be best left to individuals to choose? I have Muslim friends who love their mothers as much as they love their prophet or may be even more. in fairness to all, in a secular society like ours everyone, irrespective of the faith he/she belongs to, MUST learn to respect the sentiments of all. It is not a big thing to ask all schoolchildren to sing a patriotic song. Why did we have the song " Ai maa teri soorat se alag bhagwan ki soorat kya hogi" so popular amongst all Indians (not just Hindus but Muslims too)?

The second issue is that of a home minister attending a function that is in no way the business of a person in government to attend. If he did it in his personal capacity he should make it amply clear and known to all that he did not represent the nation as its Home Minister. He did not do that. He was there for political reasons.

The third and most important of all is the issue at the core of it all. For sixty years politicians of all hues have exploited the Muslim population by ensuring that the benefits of education, healthcare and economic prosperity do NOT reach the common Muslims, who like their brethren of other faiths will turn against these politicians if they had these benefits. And so the best way to ensure continued political support in the form of votes, it serves the political expedient motive to have the so called religious leaders of Muslims (who in reality are just milking the political cow for personal gains and not for their community) in their political fold. That is all that Mr. Chidambaram was trying to achieve. If you think he has welfare of Muslims and protection of their faith at his heart, you have got to be either naive or simply uneducated.

Cdr Nagesh

I can't agree to the Fatwa as well as some comments made against the Fatwa by some friends here, like Kavitha.

Dear Muslim brothers, don't you show respect to your parents, teachers and elders? Don't you standup  or bow your head when a teacher enter the class or during singing national anthem? Are you equating this respect to the supreme respect you give to the Supreme Creator? Will a Fatwa be given against all these also later? Where in Vandemataram its told that our nation is equivalent to Allah?

Respect to your God with the due importance and respect your nation with its importance! Don't fall into the hands of the Muslim/Hindu fanatics imagining religiousness into anything!

To friends like Kavitha- Lets not give out statements like 'Nation is equal to Allah God'...n so own. These irresponsible statements 'll help the anti secular propoganda only- its an individual's religious freedom to equate/not equate his belief to anything. I agree to you that JEU is a nuisance..nowadays these nuisances are coming from everywhere- Valentine's day ban(Shiv sena), ladies being banned from entering pubs(Manglore-Hanuman sena), conversion propogandas by some Christian missionaries- Let the educated just dismiss these with the deserving pettiness!

Muslims in India should realize that it is disheartening to reject a song of high caliber due to religious sentiments. I think, as their population grows like anything, the day is not far when our home minister would be addressing their meet and pass a resolution that Vande Mataram should be abandoned for good.

India's biggest disadvantage in terms of religious democracy is that it is a secular nation. There was hardly any need to make india secular when the Muslims had already got a new nation. But the tainted politicians think only short term possibilities and endanger the nation all the time.

I think, if Vande Mataram can't be recited by muslims and should be allowed to do so, we shoudl also stop the broadcasting of Namaaz as this is against Hundu religious beliefs. They can offer prayer but why do they broadcast the azaan with loudspeakers?

I am not against Muslim religion but I don't think that we should always think them as minority and so avoid their misconducts.

This is nothing but a reflection of the fact that now HINDUS are a MINORITY, which is a nicely hidden fact by the Government of India. And i guess if I am a Hindu and (GOD FORBID) was living in Pakistan, do you think this kind of  freedom would be allowed, HUH, lets leve that, do you actually think a congregation like the Jamait-e-Ulema Hind, would be allowed to FORM AT ALL. People wake up if we as the young generation allow this to happen then we are bound to teach our children the same, and again GOD FORBID there are riots , we are doing nothing but preparing them for SLAUGHTER. I have muslim friends i could kill for but they DONT think like this, these are a handful of deranged idiots who have nothing to do but corrupt peoples minds and gain importance, it is such a pathetic attempt to do so. This is India not Ilamabad or any other oppressive muslim country, these acts should be dealt with an Iron Hand.

This is the height of Fatwa. There are lots of things stated in the Holy Kuran as against Islam. Drinking wine, lending money on interest are said to be worst things as per Holy Kuran. Still all muslims do this.

Serving and helping the poor people said to be equal to serving the GOD. Holy Kuran is a guide for leading a better hounered life. It can't be dictator and boundry of life. It applies same for Hindu, the holy Geeta, Veds are guidelines for life, creating value for life. Guru Granth Saheb holy book is guidelines for Sikh.

For me, my country comes first as it keeps my freedom. Then comes my mother who brought me to this world and then the GOD who gave me the life to servive and serve the people and nation. 

After such a long time i am writing something...I understand that the religion is very much important to any human being. That's how we live & we faith in our religion. Do you think that expect Muslims no body believe in their religion.... the answer is every body believes... & they have self respect.

I would like to highlight what people said...we all are educated people how can we talk like Ishan Ali, Private Equity/VC-Manager, CLSA,   Farah Fathima, Commercial Manager, Leading Auto Co,   Hasnain Sayad, M & A Advisor, E.Sun Financial & Asif Naqvi, Accounts Manager, ITC Infotech (All participant are well educated) however once it comes to the religion they are like nothing.

Boss think from the other point of view... nothing is worng in that. if your mother has given birth to you & your father has given you the life you should obliged to them.

The country is like your Mother & Father... I bet... Duniya Luta sakta hai har saskh apne Ma, Baap ke sadke mai......

I think Asif Motherland is not a nonliving thing ....You may have not surved without this mother land my dear .. think about food that u eat .. the water that u drink and shadow that u have and the last grave that holds u tight when u leave this world....So respect it and dont encourage these people who come up political amitions and use educated people like u for fullfilling there cause.

I would like to ask every Indian as an Indian, Why there is a Fatwa in the first place, it is difficult to understand, though there might be religious sentiments attached to it, but we should not forget that there are somethings which are way above than everything and country should always come ahead of religion, we should learn to be Indians first. Though there are many castes and Religions in the country which comprises of more than Billion people, we should first be under a roof which gives a common platform for all and we really don't want to be differentiated based on other factors, acts like these will not be helping in that regard and will be constantly reminding us that though we live under one roof but really don't want to see each others face when it comes to take a stance which requires to show the strength of oneness among Indians,  So this fatwa and all should not be entertained which is time and againg trying to create a divide, we don't want to be the sufferers of wrong deeds of one person, a country has a better future if people have respect to one another and their beliefs and their views, but fatwa against "Vande mataram" was something which will annoy many people's sentiments across the country, why should  one do such a thing which will create that drift, we don't want that to happen, we as Indians want to live in harmony rather than hatred among ourselves.

I fully support you Kavitha....

This is outright insult to the nation. This is the law of the land, and if one cannot respect it, they should go to the Islamic nations and test for themselves how much freedom they enjoy there.

Very relevant issue, thanks for raising that. Coming to the point, its very undemocratic to issue a fatwa or like that for a particular community comprised of different people who have their own wisdom. But the irony is that there will always be such people who knows how to exploit emotions of the people in one way or the other. Its the onus of all the people in India (& people every where) & in particular to that particular community for which such fatwas are issued to stand united hand in hand with all the countrymen & say in one voice that we are matured enough to know that how to live in our nation & how to love our nation. VANDE MATARAM.