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Created by : Yogendra Singh Chauhan, Civil Engineer-Highway Roadway, AECOM  | 05 25 2009 10:25:39 +0000
Industry : ConstructionFunctional Area : India(Markets)
Keywords : managers engineers
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GOOD ENGINEERS CAN BE CREATED IN CLASS ROOMS BUT GOOD MANAGERS CAN NOT BE CREATED IN CLASS ROOMS.........ONLY U CAN ENHANCE/POLISH MANAGEMENT QUALITIES IN CLASS ROOMS...

 

 

 
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Engineers need knowledge and its application Vs Managers need talent to utilise all type of resources
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For being a good engineer all u need is technical knowledge and its application which can be taught to any person. But managers require talent to utilise all available resources and general understanding of human behaviour and system..that is why...

GOOD ENGINEERS CAN BE CREATED IN CLASS ROOMS BUT GOOD MANAGERS CAN NOT BE CREATED IN CLASS ROOMS.........ONLY U CAN ENHANCE/POLISH MANAGEMENT QUALITIES IN CLASS ROOMS...


By Yogendra Singh Chauhan, Civil Engineer-Highway Roadway, AECOM  05 25 2009 10:25:39 +0000
 
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for any professional knowledge obtain in classroom is just an introduction.real skill comes to effect when one get an experiance of handling different situations.ability and eager to learn constantly will make one successful in carreer.i think it is not correct to differentiate between manager and an engineer as they have different roles to play.sometimes both may have to put leg into others shoes and work.a true professional is a good decision maker and team oriented rather than self centred.only foundations will be built in class rooms for any one and structure has to be erected and shape by concerned indivisuals only.


By jairaj shyam prasad, Production Manager, BOSCH Ltd  06 30 2009 15:08:23 +0000
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I agree with Yogendra to a large extent. The work of an engineer depends a lot on what he has learnt in class. Concepts are more mathematical and easier to put into practice after learning in the class though while applying in practical life the engineer may face some difficulties which can never be taught in the class. However, for the manager, most concepts are theoretical and application is highly dependent on people and situation. Only experience can teach a person how to apply theoretical concepts effectively. An MBA can only make a person familiar with business concepts but to become a good manager there is no other way but to experience management in real life.


By Dr. Siddharth Varma, Professor, International Management Institute  | 07 02 2009 09:47:28 +0000
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Yes, I am agree with you.


By Chetan Dapolikar, Sr. Manager-Project,  | 07 01 2009 03:57:31 +0000
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I agree with you partially. An IAS officer is basically an administrator. He expects things to happen as per plan and procedures. This is where, Engineers in Govt. organisations make themselves vulnerable to domination by IAS officers. I have also noticed that Engineers turn into adminstrators and lose their professional inclination towards work as they go higher in the hierarchy in govt. departments. So when one becomes an administrator, he is prone to domination by super administrators ( IAS). As long as a person stands his ground on the basis of his technical competence, any IAS officer will give him due respect.


By M.L.Suryaprakash , Regional Director, National Productivity Council  | 06 23 2009 11:56:10 +0000
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Till IAS are the bosses of engineers none of the engineer can be good manager in govt. jobs


By SB DIKSHIT, STATE QUALITY MONITOR, U.P.R.R.D.A  | 06 23 2009 10:56:48 +0000
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YEP i am agree with you


By Abhishek Tiwari, Team Lead | Web Servers | Network  | 05 25 2009 13:05:36 +0000
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yes, I agree with you 100%


By Dhanaraman , Project Manager, CRN  | 05 25 2009 12:50:40 +0000
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Well greetings to all for the day. Though the ideas mentioned here are to the best of beliefs from people but with all due respect to differ from the same. In the topic there seems to be a talk about GOOD managers & GOOD enggineers. Well I generally start with a question. Here it is: Are we talking about the good or the best? For I am an enggineer and now upto some extent a manager also. My major in studies being Mechanical and work being Sales. Yes, I have shifted from one field to the other, but have experienced both the fields, latter to some extent. First, engineers will from classrooms because that is where they are made. Where else do you find one? And whether it is being a manager or an enggineer, it requires a lot of honing to get the fundas straight. I would like to ask if any of you have seen a fresher coming in from any feild getting a job for a manager except for the MBA's because management is what they learn there just like an enggineer in any class room.  And not all from the either field get selected. I wish this answers the question asked in the starting. We all are suceptible to faults and no matter how in bred we are for a particular work, we need practice for mastering it.

Yes the bright ones go and make a name because they excel in their respective fields but at a faster rate and that too in both the fields.

Coming to the point of management. I think an enggineer in a working profile has to manage more things than a manager in a sales profile. To give an eg: A Senior enggineer working on a production floor of a reputed MNC has to: Manage & forsee the labour requirements over a perod of time ensuring nobody is on OT(overtime), see to the quality of material being produced, see to the inventory management, bring down the cost of production with any innovative ideas that may include minute details regarding the way a worker works or improvising on the packaging to reduce the weight for the freight and then recording all the data on daily basis. It is just that the factors that he managing are still in his control whereas in our case we have some uncontrolled factors. But it doesn't make him manage less!

 

Eg: I might know about all the procedures to my company's working,but I need to do it first hand to do know it the next time.

And i might tell to my subordinates when I am a full manager!


By nirbhay acharya, Senior Sales Representative North , Tyco Fire & Security  | 07 01 2009 06:58:03 +0000
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