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Created by : neha singh, Content Editor, Avestia Corp  | 03 24 2011 16:13:31 +0000
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Knowledge is utmost Vs Love and relationships are the most important
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Im a Hindu and I prefer to follow the Gyan Marg. Here, it is not said that love is lowly or beneath us, but Gyan tries to show that attachment leads to suffering and unrealistic expectations. As such Gyaanis reach the truth through analysis, application and direct experience. Shiva has two beautiful wives all over him, but his mind is totally detached. Vishnu has a loving wife but he is never shown hen pecked or effeminate. The Western world preaches love, but that has reduced to lust for many people. Love without attachment is pure love, which humans are not capable of, as they don't have pure minds. The Western concept of love, in all probability, is an outcome of the inability of the western people to realise themselves, and live in that non dual state. And the result of that love is that evrybody is in love with each other, that is not what religion preaches. What happens when the one you love dies or leaves you? For such people Bhakti is preached, that is in duality, when an individual is in love with the deity. Christianity talks of this love for Christ, but there is no mention of non-duality or realisation. In Hinduism, the individual has to realise his own state of bliss, there is no God to protect us or take us there!!!!
By neha singh, Content Editor, Avestia Corp  03 24 2011 16:13:31 +0000
 
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There is no compariosn between knowledge and relationship. Both should be perfectly balanced.
By Smita Dalvi, Sales/BD Manager, Hewlett-Packard  03 25 2011 09:49:54 +0000
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it cann`t.Knowledge is the utmost power.Its not only KNOWLEDGE,its love NOT AFFECTION.knowledge can be attained. Love is to be given for all to get love from all.IN tamil there is a slogan  ANBE SIVAM.ie the utmost knowledge (lord or GOD is Love)It has to be attained  means you have to move towards HIM. Its by LOVE (MEERA,HARIDOSS,KANNAPPAR)iTS by yoga or knowledge (VIVEKANANDA)Its by KARMA (KARNAN ,BishmarImahabaratha)its by vedantha (brhma).If you are moving towards God God will come to you surely because HE is full of Love.A Mother wont let her child cry for along time. GOD ,The KNOWLEDGE IS  MOTHER how HE allows to cry.

A question is; GOD  is love, why I have to go for  an approach with Knowledge.yes But God is the KNOWLEDGE .YOU CAN SEE HIM.YOU CAN Realize HIM.Yes atlast you have to or you can realize HIM only for that you require knowledge till you can realize the sweetest and brightest thing of all.

Then only you can wake up if you want to ive in this.because  you require this world .


By pandianarjunan , project manager  | 04 06 2011 12:05:09 +0000
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Gyan: Kisee anuyai ke margon par chalna ya unka anukaran karna dharma hai, na ki uska anuyai hona. Saccha sandesh dharma hai ore vyakti ka Aatmiy gyan hai. Chetna uska Aabhas hai, shanti ka pratik hai, prakash ka deep hai, vikash ka paryai hai. Manvata ek Aadhar hai, paropkar ek gun hai. Udarata ek Adarsh hai avam sabhyata jeevan hai. Vidhan ek niyam hai, darshan uska roop hai.In the last on today's life Gyan bikata hai agyan lutata hai Faishan ek akarshan hai sundarta ore santushti nahin kyon ki es par adhikar laza ka hi hai. Jeevan ka vastavik avam vyaktigat shukh laza mai hi nihit hai. Faishan yadi chand hai to laza ek tara hai jo kabhi nahi chhupata. If you are agree with then wrote on this board more.
By Nem Singh, Consultant, Consultancy Firm  | 04 05 2011 08:29:38 +0000
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Gyan marg, as you claim, is good! But we should know what sort of knowledge (gyan) one should aspire to get! Writing a few sentences here and there by grappling knowledge on a few mundane subjects is not knowledge. Our real knowledge is "Vedanta" - a great combination of four vedas, 108 upanishads, Bhagvad, Vishnu Puran, et al! Vedanta is our "finite knowledge" - excerpts from such knowledge is taken by great philosophers in the world, scientists (Einstein, Rutherford et al), Max Mueller, etc.
By S. Muralidharan, Executive Director, Knowledge Foundation & Campus Around the Corner  | 03 29 2011 04:06:54 +0000
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Another thing ----- There is no rule that one man can have only one woman or vice-versa. Love may or may not be physical. It depends clearly on the individual's perception. Quite explicit descriptions can be found even in the Mahabharata. What matters is how you interpret it.
By K.R. Manish, Mechanical Engineer [Mainetenance], NTPC  | 03 26 2011 06:42:47 +0000
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It is truly said that "Love makes you blind". It makes you lose your sense of reasoning. Lord Indra begged before Karna for his kavacha kundalas so that his son Arjuna could defeat him in the Mahabharatha war. Indra, though himself a god, was so blinded by his love for his son Arjuna that he lost his faith in his son's ability to defeat Arjuna. Knowledge on the other hand, is a very tricky thing. Right knowledge is very hard to come by but if you manage to get it, then one can become truly powerful. But then the question arises ---- How do you classify friendships??? How do you classify your teachers or gurus??? ---- Most often than not, a bonding or relationship is developed between the teacher & disciples and also between disciples themselves while sharing knowledge. The same is the case with Matha [Mother], Pitha [Father]& Guru [Teacher]. The relationship between knowledge & relationships is certainly non-linear and they are some-what similar to the time-space co-ordinates which cannot be separated. Also, there is nothing known as absolute/true/pure knowledge or love. Everything is truly relative as Mr. Tanmay Gaur has rightly pointed out.
By K.R. Manish, Mechanical Engineer [Mainetenance], NTPC  | 03 26 2011 06:38:04 +0000
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Love between one man and woman. How do u explain so many affairs, broken hearts and extramarital affairs?


By neha singh, Content Editor, Avestia Corp  | 03 25 2011 15:53:33 +0000
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Love and relationships give peace???? Only self abidance gives peace. What is wrong with u ppl?


By neha singh, Content Editor, Avestia Corp  | 03 25 2011 15:51:49 +0000
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U pl read what uve written. Does it make any sense? You say knowledge is basic, but that is the most important. a person with less knowledge cant survive only L&R, but a person with lots of knowledge can survive alone.


By neha singh, Content Editor, Avestia Corp  | 03 25 2011 15:50:33 +0000
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I disagree, for knowledge seekers only realisation is imporatnt. Its like a scinetist in a lab who makes a lousy husband, but is a fantastic scientist.


By neha singh, Content Editor, Avestia Corp  | 03 25 2011 14:35:32 +0000
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Dear all In sanskrit a quote is ; Nahi gyanena sadrushan: it says that theres is nothing equivalent to knowledge,but if we go in depth, knowledge mof mwhich tye and subject is much important. Bhakti- Means single minded devotion towards your/our power of belief or God. so, The relation ship between gyana and bhakti is that of culmination of trust and belief and confirmity. knowledge is attained after, whereas Bhakti needs your proactive concentration with practice. education through pro-active approach is knowledge.

knowing things is knowledge and experience of the ones known things is bhakti.


By keshava prasad, executive-EHS-BPS , MNC  | 03 25 2011 14:13:59 +0000
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The balance between the two will take u to the new heights.Bhakti Marg will give u peace and Gyan will give u confidence.
By Uday Deshpande, Freelancer, Freelancer  | 03 25 2011 12:44:17 +0000
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I will say all marg are important but If you follow Gyan marg, you will analyze your true self and true meaning of the world. You will feel that nobody is doing anything and everything is happening by wish of God and that al mighty decides your "Sukh" and "Dukh" based upon past karma. Once you identify this fact, you will not hate anybody in the world and will try to do the work to please the god and not to a human or animal. So gyan Marg will lead you on the correct path of the Karma marg too. simillarly when you realize that the objective of the life is to please and pray the god, you will automatically progress on Bhakti marg too. So out of three Gyan marg is the most important.
By Anil Kumar Gupta, QA/QC Manager HP  | 03 25 2011 11:24:52 +0000
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right smita


By puneet , Manager Admin  | 04 24 2011 15:05:52 +0000
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Whatever path you fallow, that will ultimately reach the god. One has to choose the way which suits her/his self. To select the path "Gyan Marg"as you is very difficult to practice for a lay man.Gyan is nothing but knowing oneself,which tells you are none other than God. How to know oneself? By reading books or doing penance or conducting rituals or taking sanyas. Is it possible to practice with concentration now a days. Impossible. Very simple and nearest way is to see god in every livingbeing, doing alloted responsibilities with devotion,showing love to others and getting love from others. Above all treating our parents with respect and love. As god created universe, our parents created us, without them there is no existence for us.Finally, we are here to do our duties to our family, to our society and to our society. Neglecting them on some pretext or other is nothing but escapism. 


By P.Satyanarayana , Freelancer, Radio, TV & Films  | 04 05 2011 11:33:23 +0000
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I don't know why I am writing this again but may be you asked for it. Great wars, all wars shows you the absence of "Love" and relationships. If you talk about Hinduism, Ravan had all the knowledge of the world, but no love and relationship for his sane brothers and wife who alarmed him before hand. Shiva was unsustainable without his love. Thats how sati reborned. Vishu and his wife took part in all his reincarnations to restore the faith of this world in love and relationships. You certainly need knowledge. Thats was, when I say, this very knowledge have different meaning for you and me. Love is faith, respect and presence of your God with you. Relationship is when a person can slap you but not let you go the wrong way. Your spouse in love do it most of the time. Your parents, your brother/sister do it. Its the absence of this love when you have many affairs, broken hearts and all that. As for the West, they are the same people like you and me. Go an see popular movie "Cast Away", and you will know what I am talking about. Watch "Father of a bride" and you will get your answer. You definitely need knowledge but it will take you to love and relationships. Bhakti and Karma. Bhakti for your spouse and parents and karma for your kids and dependents.


By Tanmay Gaur, Freelance Software Developer  | 03 29 2011 04:31:22 +0000
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You posted perfectly balanced statement, Smita.I support your views.

Thanks for referral, Smita.


By SHRIKANT MANOHAR DANKE, Project Manager, Phadnis Infrastructur Ltd  | 03 28 2011 17:11:14 +0000
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I agree with Smita, that love is universal and needs no religion .The root cause for all our sufferings is desire.We believe that whatever we have is our own( relations, wealth, fame ), but we are only care -takers. if we understand Whatever given can/will be taken one day, there will be bliss. i don't agree with Neha
By sheriff r mohideen, General Manager -Technical, Origin Foods Limited  | 03 26 2011 06:17:58 +0000
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for supporting L&R ,it's not that knowledge is not lacking behind , it's also basic thing to follow.....it should be balance between them.what we do of extreme knowledge when we can't share our feeling with anyone..
By ritesh kushwaha, System Engineer, Micromax (MLABS)  | 03 25 2011 15:12:58 +0000
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Desire to know it all, or beyond others cannot give the peace to the soul but the love and relationships. Further, Gyan also follows the law of relativity. You can understand only in relation to the position you hold. So you will not be able to know from all positions. Its only the love and your "Dil" that one will carry beyond his life, Knowledge is as material as is your body. Wow! 


By Tanmay Gaur, Freelance Software Developer  | 03 25 2011 12:20:19 +0000
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I entirely agree. With out love, the human evolution would not have happened and I see the bakthi as our love to god, karma as our love to duty and Gyan as our love in pursuit of finding truth. It is the love that structures the society and creates a belief of "One man to One Woman only and vice versa". With out love the harmony in society would not have existed,as the human kind would have done things based on their urges. From our childhood we are loving some one and being loved by someone and it is on this premise, the society and humankind is built
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