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Created by : Sarika Singh, Assistant Professor, BIT  | 10 20 2009 06:09:56 +0000
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In a recent news it is said that the Union HRD minister Kapil Sibal wanted more weightage to be given to Class 12 Board exam for IIT entrance and proposed raising the required minimum of 60% marks to at least 80%.

Sibal said the 60% minimum was unacceptable as the government move came in an attempt to ensure that students taking entrance tests to the premier institutes gave equal importance to the secondary school exam and to check the growth of IIT coaching centres. But then what about people who have scored less than 80% and what if they have improved really good and don't you think the cut off percentage is a bit too high for the entry into the IIT, wouldn't it be robbing them from a really good chance to gain entry into the Premier institute of the country.

What do you think people Should 80% marks in Class 12 be made mandatory for IIT aspirants? Share your views on this.

 
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If the reason for implementing this cut-off is MAINLY to reduce the pressure given to students by those hectic coaching centres then definetely i support it. But i think 80% is bit more. 70-75% would be better. Also they should give seperate weightage to CBSE,ICSE and State syllabus students.  

Since the HRD minister has now given chance for IITs to decide,  lets hope the best from best brains.


By C Nijagunaradhya, Planning engineer, Aarvee associates  10 21 2009 05:35:14 +0000
 
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I don't think this 80% cut off mark should be made mandatory, there will be many reasons why a student wouldn't have fared well in the class 12 exams and whats wrong with 60% what matters is how good he or she is on the given day like when they are going for the entrance exams and showing what they are capable of, there are many instances where i have seen many average students doing really good in the IIT entrance exams and many  80% student category not doing well here, may the percentage is low in that regard, but then why one should rob them of that chance, I think this 80% cut off mark for gaining entry into IIT is not at all good, it certainly brings that divide among student where there abover 80% and then the below 80%, and we don't want that kind of divide among the students at such early age. So why not make it same for all.

And also we can’t agree with Kapil sibal, that the qualifying marks in the board exams should be hiked to such a level. The minister has himself in the past argued for de-stressing students. And now putting an additional hurdle in the paths of those trying to enter IITs — getting a minimum of 80% in the boards apart from clearing JEE — does not go well with that stated intent.


By Sarika Singh, Assistant Professor, BIT  10 20 2009 06:13:37 +0000
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It is better to keep 70% instead of 80% and the idea of Hrd Minsiter is to reduce the pressure given to students by those coaching centres. The HRD Minister has to fix only 70% cut -of
By venugopal , Legal Advisor, private practice  | 10 28 2009 14:16:50 +0000
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It is better to keep 70% instead of 80% and the idea of Hrd Minsiter is to reduce the pressure given to students by those coaching centres. The HRD Minister has to fix only 70% cut-ff
By venugopal , Legal Advisor, private practice  | 10 28 2009 14:15:22 +0000
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Mr Iyengar,i dont think the minister is aganist coaching centers.

It isfor  the benefit of the rural students who can only study the syllabus and cannot afford nor go in for those expensive coaching classes.They will benefit.and i think from that angle it is fair.

But the cut off should be for all universities across the country.


By Charles davison, Project Manager, Douglas OHI LLC  | 10 22 2009 09:58:55 +0000
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A good decision and i feel only a few among the lakhs of IIT aspirants will be affected.It may not lower the competition by a big amount but then will also make a statement.The statement is "Study hard consistently ".

12std concepts are actually the building blocks.These have to be concreate and i am glad emphasis is being laid on it.  


By Shaikh Mohd. Laeeq, Technical Associate R&D , ThinkLABS Technosloutions Pvt. Ltd.  | 10 21 2009 13:11:21 +0000
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I agree with Manoj. Only those students should be allowed in IIts who really deserve it. Who can do hard labour, can study a lot and are really a good students. 60% is a very common percentage. A student getting that marks is an average student so it is not a good idea to waste searching good students in them. By increasing the range from 80%, not only students can be chosen from the population of really good students, but it will also make the average students serious about their studies thus benifitting them as well.


By Dipen Trivedi, Project Manager, 3i Infotech  | 10 21 2009 06:06:53 +0000
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This is a very good decision. In this way, only "Eligible for IIT" i.e, serious students will get chance into IIT. In IIT, students have to study a lot so only those students should be allowed who seriously can do so. Other students, if also get in, won't be able to handle the pressure in IITs. So, its better only those students should be allowed in IIT, who are fit for it i.e, can study a lot. For that students with minimum 80% marks is a very good decision...


By Manoj Chaturvedi, Assistant Professor, Bangalore university  | 10 20 2009 09:33:22 +0000
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1. CBSE is shifting to grading system instead of % of marks to reduce the pressure on students.Then this step is simply backtracking.

2. If H'ble minister finds % of marks important then why an entrance test and vice versa.

3.Again if it is proposed to make so many new IITs and IIMs then its any how going to reduce pressure.


By Amit Kumar, Design Engineer, Bharat Heavy Electricals Limited  | 02 21 2010 14:23:06 +0000
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Can you tell that the present exam system and evaluation system guarantees the actual level of a student. Absolutely ‘no’. So I won’t support this nonsense.
By Surendhar , Network Admin/System Admin, Tatva Networks  | 10 29 2009 01:58:34 +0000
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I think that in intrance in IIT become withought percentage mark because it's not neccessary that the student get in 12th good mark can better position in IIT
By piyush kant singh, content writer, Freelance writing  | 10 27 2009 13:29:52 +0000
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Inspite of increasing the slab he should have taken care of following bringing one standard education thru' out the conuntry :CBSE/ICSE/STATE.

The portions in these streams are very different and thereby pooling all the students in one stream is not a good idea.

 


By Veena , Head HR, Kalki Communication Technologies  | 10 21 2009 12:36:04 +0000
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IIT is not about how well one performs in a read-remember-recapitulate scenario of schools. It is about how best one understands and applies the first principles for questioning the hypothesis and arriving at the solutions.

There are disparities in the marking systems across states. This will create great problems.

Students from rural india who are able to make to IIT's today will not be able to get any entry

80% is a foolish idea. IIT should allow any one to take JEE and only JEE should be test of merit.


By Mod , Global Account Manager, ITC Infotech India  | 10 21 2009 09:54:16 +0000
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My first questions

Does  12th Exam marks and IIT entrance are related?

This is not fair to judge any student on the basis of 12th precentage. Since in india we don't have same education system for all, every state is having its own Board and pattern. In UP Borad its very hard to cross 80% and i'm sure the student who is getting 70%+ in UP board can get 90%+ in CBSE due to exam pattern.

Second thing, IIT-Entrance is enough to test abilities and level of a student and if you put any criteria of percentange then entrance is not fair, let all come into the battle field and the fittest will survive. I don't think that the student who is scoring 50% in exams is dull, just he is not bookworm.

And an IITian doesn't mean a bookworm, it means a finest mind.


By Abhay Misra, Consultant, Novaterra  | 10 21 2009 07:33:42 +0000
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In my school days, I was always an average student. But still in my final exams, I never scored less than 75%. The reason was that I used to stay awake for the whole night before the exam day and used to mug up everything. We all knew what are the things we need to study from (Syllabus) and that worked out. I was helped by my good memory power and theoretical subjects. But had the syllabus been case studies or direct practical ones,I would have never succeeded in this way. Thus is the case with modern school syllabus. Students mug the syllabus, write in exams and forget and even secure good marks. How can we judge good and bad students in this way? Students for IITs should be able to use their learning in practical life. Not just remembering them. So, the entrance exam, which tests the analytic capacity of the students is perfect for choosing students for IITs immaterial of their 12th marks. So, I don't thing, there should be any change in the present way of choosing students for IITs.


By Bhushan Patil, Project Lead, Birlasoft Limited  | 10 21 2009 06:04:22 +0000
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Best way forward is that let the concerned IIT commitee or an expert commitee affiliated with IIT may suggest the crieteria , instead of some politician or people who are not expert in the field thrusting their idea down your throat.


By gurminder dhir, Associate Vice President ( Marketing), ISMT Ltd.  | 10 21 2009 05:12:07 +0000
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In my opinion it should be 70% instead of 80%. 60% was on lower side and coaching shops are forcing students to skip school and ignore CBSE. Eligibility criteria of 70% will balance the CBSE study and coaching for IIT competition.


By Tanzeem Ahmad Siddiqui, Environment Specialist, Petro Rabigh  | 10 21 2009 04:46:06 +0000
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If 80 % is mandatory it should be done for all technical universities why only IIT? what we need is unbiased policy for all courses whether IIT,or state universities.May be it will bring up our universities at par with International univ's


By Charles davison, Project Manager, Douglas OHI LLC  | 10 20 2009 16:43:28 +0000
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I feel 80% of minimum requirement will create lot of vacant seats in IITs. Actually the government should increase the number of IITs so that more and more people will get opportunity to get enrolled in IITs.


By Ramakrishna Perumal, Electrical Specialist Engineer,  | 10 20 2009 13:41:03 +0000
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I also agree with this.Eligibility of students cannot only be counted on the basis on what marks they got? In 12th exams, students my also mug up answers and write in the paper which will fetch them marks. The real eligibility is measured when they sit in the entrance exams. So, whatever process was being followed till now is very good. There is no need to change anything...


By Prasad Rajadhyaksha, Assistant Professor, BIT  | 10 20 2009 09:28:16 +0000
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On one side the HRD minister says that there is too much pressure on students and let us get away with board exams at 10th standard, on the other side, he proposes to hike the eligibility criteria to 80%.... very contradictory. I think 60% is reasonable....I agree that the prospective entrant should be bright enough to score 80% at +2 exams, but there may be many reasonable reasons why the student may not socre that much, he may prepare for one full year, develop himself and crack IIT entrance. Let the minister not fiddle too much with the system unilaterally.
By SHARATH CHANDAR REDDY, Business Development Manager - Insurance, I T C Ltd  | 10 20 2009 06:34:02 +0000
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80% 1st in jee  can be a dud in the practical world ...

60%  atkts in iit   can be a success in practicality ...

a new system :: let the kids do 12th..

introduction of GAP period  of i year ... then make them have a shot at IIT

12th ... 1 GAP year ... iit ( this will make a level playing field and filtering will be effective and god for iits)


By Ajay Ziz, Dy. Registrar,, University of Jammu  | 10 20 2009 06:18:45 +0000
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