For the past few days the news that India's decision not to cut carbon emissions is becoming a topic which is been talked about. Yes, it is true that India is in pace to develop into great heights. But while developing, our govt has also to be aware of the fact that during these developments, the atmosphere surrounding India is being covered in carbon smokes. Was the decision took by our govt for the betterment of the country? Or is it going to harm Indians?
Plase share your opinions on this prevailing issue.....
Yes India has taken the right decision by not signing the carbon emission pact. Why only develoing countries are forced to sign these pacts and the developed econopmies like US are still not anywhere in the treaty. These developed economies are emitting more carbon then the developing countries, so they should take the first initiative by and then ask others to do the same.
One should know that it is not the case of global trade where surplus of food in one country can be exported to the country of scarcity and there by balance the ecological system. In the case of carbon emmission balance cannot be offset if one country is emmitting more carbon and the other emits less the environmental balance cannot be maintained. The country who emits more carbon has to face more severe circumsatances in future but it would also imbalance the global environment too.
My strong opinion is that our govt has taken the wrong decision which can cost the lives of many of our fellow beings. Its true that India is developing but, it should be in a way which doesn't harm the lives of people who have to see these developments & the environment we have to live in.
Carbon emission should be reduced , it is a fact but the question is why india sign a pact to reduce the carbon emission in india. Indian parliament can decide it...
I dont think any other country will sign a pact with india for India 's favour...
By not signing India is not shrugging off its responsibility to reduce carbon emission. All the new plants coming up, all the vehicles produced in the country are done keeping this in mind. But to exactly look into the problem where the CO2 is coming is from the existing plant. If you compare the total capacity installed in the world, the highest contributing villian are US and Europe and more specifically US. The power and chemical plant runs into 1000 of GW and more number of transportation vehicles. India should not sign till US sign and agree to phase out all its age old plant in a phased manner.
Yes India has taken the right decision that not to sign the pact. As Prakashji said Signing the pact & controlling the emissions are two different points.. India has taken a major step in controlling emissions.. for all renewable energy projects, the govt has announced subsidies, tax exemptions etc., this is a sign of controlling emissions.. friends just read what the minister Mr. Ramesh has said in the interview, "We accept our responsibility but we will not accept any agreement which legally binds us to cut emissions".. As we have realised our responsibilities, we have policy decisions to control emissions but We as nation are grwoing at a high pace and we cannot restrict our growth for the mistakes committed by the developed nations.. In an article, released in TOI, it is stated that, India's per capita emissions will be 1/7th of the current emission level of US & 1/4th of UK in 2031 if we grow at a rate of 8% per annum.. So i believe that, India has taken right decision at right time!
The fact that India is facing such pressure is because it is the 4th largest carbon emitting country but what Indian government is advocating is that 'every man has equal right to environment'. So being the second most populous state and still in 4th on co2 emission it is doing fairly good. Mr. Tharoor said 'India is just not in a position to take a legal binding.' which means that India will still try to curb co2 emission. But why not sign the pact then? Its because it will slow down the economic growth of the country. Now just answer its been almost 2 years since slowdown how many people in US are dying due to hunger or are under BPL and suffer from malnutrition and compare the numbers with that of India. So the thing is India cannot compromise with economic growth now and untill we reach to that position from where we can provide basic amenities to all the citizens of India I don't think it is necessary to take a legal binding.
We need to sign international aggrements to improve our standards, So let us make our country and its working in terms of emmisison norms the best place to be and once we are firmly on the way then we go and bargain a position in the world for ourselves. So the govt. has done wright or wrong is not the real issue as far as this issue is concerned, for the debate and opinion it may be. So we as professionals and in our work areas and infuence areas try to focus on small activities which will lead to decrease of the emmision our carbon foot print. That wil be more pertinent and as we all know but we dont want to realise that " Our actions will determine our future" so lets debate but debate as to what needs to be done.
Although India has not signed the pact, she has taken a lot of measures to cut emissions. India should emphasize the developed nations (US and Europe) to cut emissions first. She may think of signing the pact in the latter stage, if everything goes well. Otherwise, our economy will slow down drastically. The situation is bad now itself in the country.
India is right in not signing the carbon emmission pact. The pact is aimed at sharing the burden for solving a problem which was largely created by the developed world and that too by way of forcing(or should we say bullying) the developing nations to pay for it. The onus of reducing the carbon emmission mostly lies on the developed countries who blatantly voilated the ecological norms till the environmental situation became grim. Now to reduce their burden they want to involve the developing countries to share the cost for purification.
You are right Mr.Singh, by signing these emission pact, India will be binded by many rules and regulations by these developed countries which will become a hurdle in the path of India's development....
of course, india should not at all sign carbon emission pact, for the reason indian share to these emissions are meagre to that of developed nations, it can be a diplomancy of tose developed one to halt indian progress, i stronlgy deny this act and we should continue maintaining our stand as quoto protocal
Yes, It is the right Decision, everybody know with current stature it is difficult to control the carbon emission, also we should never sigh something failing which could have adverse effect...
Support this ,because other countries shall pressurize for providing an instrument which they can provide only.They will have the checking on these and pollution, Factories will have another cause to increase the cost and pollution controle officer will have their new place of earning.
I believe that India has done the right thing by not signing the carbon emissions pact.
Even all the developed countries have not signed the pact, the developed countries were putting pressure on India to sign the pact, but they themselves have not been a part of it. India being a developing country has many other issues to be satisfied.
I hope you will agree to me that the emmission by India is not as high as compared to the Developed countries. We must take steps to control the emissions but must not sign the pact..
Very true. The US dictates, but does not in many ways follow the rules it governs. Polution of any portion is a hazard to all mankind, not just one type, or one race, or one religion. It's a mankind issue, that needs to be as said" used then enforced" , in many ways. I agree with your idea !
Yes,it's a right decision taken by the indian government.i am very much agreed with MR. Darshil.The developed economies have a put a large bad affet over the world enviornment and surely they are not going to shut down their large industries even they sign the pact.and india is far better regarding its forests and green belt and government of different states are doing efforts to increase the forests.The changing weather and bad monsoon in india is not caused by india only. it is due to combined affect of all over world.India is an emerging economy and its 80% villages are still facing the electricity problem.
Indian GFovernment has taken a bold step by not signing the pact.
U have brought about a very relevant topic of todat.
I support this decision.
One has to understand that, "signing Carbon emission pact" and "controlling carbon emission" are two different things.
India has already made a policy to take measures to control emissions on it's own, without waitng for any pact.
On global level, India is fifth highest contributor to carbon in atmosphere. Still emissions of the highest contributor (US) are 6 times higher than that of India.
For cutting down the carbon emissions on global, the focus should be on US, China and European countries. Potential of greater results lies there.
The policy of India should be to take unilateral steps to cut down emissions and use the international platform, to bring the major countries on a common platform through a pact, to contribute in proportion to their emission level.
Ms. Malhotra....ur question is nice brain storming session type..a real good question.
For this, my answer is YES, but for present scenerio....No doubt that india is emitting alot of carbon emissions but its just 4% of the total global emissions. In comparision to this US is 30%, Europe is 27% and rest share with other countries. So, if we compare with other developed countries then v dont have to bother about the emissions and even signing the pact. But, we must forcast the near future....over population is expected to reach 1.5 billion...!!!! and also we have to make development....
For this answer is implementing highly efficient and productive projects which will enhance our capabilities taking in mind not to ignore the harmful effects and how to minimise them. thus making the thing in a sustainable manner.
The thing is we have a very bad habit. We think for solutions when any problem arises or it becomes worsen. But now this is high time and we have to change our thinking. Instead of waiting for problems to arise, we can just predict the possible impacts and accordingly take prior steps. This will not only help in reducing our overall emissions but also if any time comes when we have to take steps to get control over our emissions then it will not result too costly and can be easily tackled. I think this is one of the way we can tackle our emission levels but there are also many other options (say better options). The thing we have to do is just think constructively and implement with quality and efficiency.
So, i think i answered ur question.... let me know ur opinion on this...thank you....
global warming is now not just a country or individual topic of discussion. Its a major issue that needs to be dealt with and India should support this. Signing the agreement is for the betterment of the future.
whats the point in having a high growth when there is a shortage of fresh drinking water- a basic necessity
Global Warming in itself is self explanatory. The issue is truly global with reach from pole to pole. Why is Govt. shying away from such a challenging scenario?
It also confuses me to find so many people supporting Govt. for their ignorance.
of all things created by man, can't create nature.
India carbon credit revenue sharing plan stirs unease Plans by India to force renewable energy developers to share up to half their carbon offset revenues could prove complex to administer and deter investment, carbon market participants say.
India's Central Electricity Regulatory Commission issued draft rules in May to harmonise the power price premium which state-owned distribution firms must pay for renewable energy.
The prospective laws would soften the extra cost of the premium by forcing renewable energy projects to share any revenue they earn from selling carbon offsets under a separate Kyoto Protocol scheme.
Under Kyoto's Clean Development Mechanism (CDM) companies in the developed world can invest in clean energy projects in emerging nations like China and India and get carbon offsets in return to help them meet domestic emissions limits.
"The thinking is that since the state-based electricity distribution firms have to pay a higher tariff to renewable energy projects, then they should at least get a share of the CDM revenues," said Vinod Kala, managing director of Emergent Ventures India, a leading clean-energy project developer and advisory firm.State distribution firms are under pressure to buy more green energy from wind farms and other projects that can earn offsets under the CDM.
The draft rules say carbon offset sales "shall be shared between the generating company and concerned off-taker." Parliament must still approve the plan.
The project developer would keep 100 percent of the carbon offsets sales in the first year after the date of commercial operation of the generating plant, falling to half over time.
"The biggest impact of this would be that when we're trying to forward-sell the carbon credits and organising project finance, including equity, that may become a problem," said Kala. "This would mean not all of the total carbon credits from the project are available for sale."
"DISINCENTIVE" Kala said it would be impossible to negotiate with each state and that one option was for state governments to agree to a lower premium without sharing offset revenues.
The proposal as it stood would be "a disincentive, not an incentive, to invest in renewable energy", Pamposh Bhat, chief executive of consultancy EFCON Carbon Market Services in New Delhi, said.
India is the world's second source of CERs after China. So far, 448 Indian projects, mostly wind farms and biomass plants, have been formally registered. More than 1,200 Indian projects have been registered or are in planning.
CDM revenues are not directly taxed in India. The proceeds are grouped under "other income" and taxed at about 33 percent, but most renewable energy projects in India can be granted a 10-year tax holiday, meaning they are taxed at the minimal alternative tax rate, which is around 15 percent, said Kala.
If India's revenue sharing rules become too tough, renewable energy developers could bypass state distribution firms and sell directly to private power consumers, such as a factory owner.
"If a lot of stringent conditions are imposed, then people will not go to the regular off-takers," said Chaitanya Kalia of Ernst & Young in Mumbai, India's top CDM project developer.
I think our Govt is behaving in a childish manner. Eye for an Eye approach makes the whole world blind. We should use the opportunity offered by CARBON EMMISSION limits to support our R & D efforts. We are not spoiled as of yet to the extent of developed countries. We should learn from others wrongdoings and avoid following the same path.
protection, regeneration and management of existing
forests and wildlife habitats
2. Capacity Building in Forestry Scheme
Rs 369 crore (USD 80Mn) approved by Cabinet for a comprehensive human resource development programme for forest personnel, with special focus on training cutting edge frontline staff like forest guards, forest rangers and foresters
3. Intensification of Forest Management Scheme
Rs 600 crore (USD 125Mn) approved by Cabinet for a scheme to improve management of forest areas, strengthen infrastructure, control forest fires, etc.
4. Accelerated Programme of Restoration and Regeneration of Forest Cover
Rs 500 crore (USD 100Mn) Scheme announced in this year’s budget; Guidelines being finalised
5. Inclusion of Forestry within NREGA
Forestry related activities included as part of India’s flagship employment guarantee scheme; Convergence guidelines ready; Pilots being implemented
B.Energy
6. Energy Efficiency Ratings on Appliances
Energy efficiency ratings made mandatory for 4 key appliances — refrigerators, air conditioners, tubelights and transformers from January 7, 2010; more to follow
7. Energy Compliant Building Code (ECBC)
Introduced by Delhi government for all new government buildings; other States being exhorted to do the same
C.Research Agenda
8. Impact Assessment of Climate Change
Scientific study to assess impact of climate change on various sectors of economy (NATCOM-II)
9. Himalayan Glaciers Monitoring Programme
Comprehensive scientific programme to monitor the trend and causes of the retreat of the Himalayan glaciers
10. Pathways of India’s Carbon Emissions
Modelling of India’s Carbon Emission Pathways until 2030 under different assumptions; to be ready August 2009
11. Carbon Sink Value of India’s Forests
Scientific quantification of the carbon sequestered and stored in India’s forests; to be ready August 2009
It's rightly been put-up by Ms. Shikha, when we speak anything related to Environment, there s no question of Developed, or Developing or under-developed countries, It's role of each country, state or individual to save energy both in domestic as well as industries and not to forget the transportation sector. there should be some committment for India as well with population ranking of 2nd.
It's wiser to think about "Prevention better than Cure", the disaster related to carbon is not limited any of country or continent its entire earth with catastrophic effects in future. So, Government has to initiate the such treaties
At first it should have been signed. The major concern is GLOBAL WARMING. The co2 is the main cause. One must do his bit to reduce it. The conecern is how to utilise the over generated carbon dioxide. The whole problem has to be balanced. A calculation is must to balance both. The enegy is as much needed to develop nation but at the sametime the carbon capturing will take care of Global issue. Can Co2 will be utilised to generate or synthesise food like plants do.
There are number of ways to do this - as we can use this carbon dioxide for dry ice. For manufacturing it lot of Co2 is needed and we can commercially use the byproduct of power generation.
As pollution is becoming a major threat to world as a whole, India being one of the huge country by population and area needs to be a active participant in cutting carbon emissions. Carbon emissions are much related to global warming. Global warming is one of the most powerful demon that is eating up the ice glaciers and ice caps, while hampering most of the ecological balances of rainfall, ocean currents etc. In fact, the ten hottest years being measured ever are in last 14 years being 2005 being hottest of all (upto 2006). Also, we can notice, it is in recent years only, the mercury levels are crossing over 50 degree celcius in India which had never occured before in history.So there is an urgent need to cut carbon emission levels significantly, as an infant cub may be domesticated but wild tiger is difficult to tame.
I agree that development and CO2 levels are directly proportional but we cannot trade our earth's health for blind development. If there is no place to live then what is the requirement of development. Developed nations are way ahead in c-level emiision than us, they for sure need to cut down these levels but we being a part of the earth can't betray our mother earth.
Is the debate about nations or is it about life on earth? What is at risk? We should be more concerned about survival of life than survival of nations. In our attempt to sustain our current lifestyles and future aspirations we are compromising the lifestyles of future generations.
If the inventor of the wheel had been concerned about retaining his/her current lifestyle, we would not be travelling in the comfort of our personalised vehicles. Its the debt of these pioneers that we need to repay by leaving behind a world fit to live in for the generations to come.
All the five houses in the street are burning; one is big and another small; Will the small house owner say that the rich man has poured only 5 buckets of water, and so I shall pour only two?
Global warming is like a major fire accident spreading in all parts of the world. In my article, 'Sinking Sunderbans' (West Bengal) I have tried to bring the universality of the problem to the notice of the learned readers.
This is a global problem and we should approach it as global citizens.
We Indians have to lead the campaign, as our natural resources are under the greatest strain and we are the most vulnerable lot.
It is not correct that the European countries and US are not doing enough. They have accepted ambitious targets and are trying to exceed them! Even China has taken up this problem very seriously. It will not be in our own interests to show a 'smarter than thou' attitude in this.
Trying to evade responsibility in this matter is a blunder. We are not trying to help others; it is only in our own interest. We should commit ourselves to control global warming in the interest of our inmates of India. This is not a case for political bargaining.
'Industrialists indulging in false propaganda’ happens everywhere. Let me quote something from www.desmogblog.com
"Democracy is utterly dependent upon an electorate that is accurately informed. In promoting climate change denial (and often denying their responsibility for doing so) industry has done more than endanger the environment. It has undermined democracy.
There is a vast difference between putting forth a point of view, honestly held, and intentionally sowing the seeds of confusion. Free speech does not include the right to deceive. Deception is not a point of view. And the right to disagree does not include a right to intentionally subvert the public awareness.
Although all public relations professionals are bound by a duty to not knowingly mislead the public, some have executed comprehensive campaigns of misinformation on behalf of industry clients on issues ranging from tobacco and asbestos to seat belts.
Lately, these fringe players have turned their efforts to creating confusion about climate change…"
If anybody thinks that stalling global warming efforts would do them good, they are doing it at their own peril; and are also trying to destroy others.
I appeal to all those arguing on the other side: Please correct yourself and come to this side. Let us show some solidarity in this august assembly of a blog in this national, nay, the global issue and send a strong message to all those who are wielding power and who need it.
while was in College Bajaj Chetak was my pride to be owned and at premium.
Rahul Bajaj could not accept other Two wheelers like Suzuki, Honda,etc entering India and he opposed to hilt through Bombay Club, but at the end of the day his son turned Scooter manufacturing to Bike and successfully. Shying away from Challenge will make us obsolete and Carbon Neutral and Low carbon Society betters our lives and we have talent excepting bad Policy decessions which we will rue.
why do we ape to buy all foreign items because we feel they are superior in quality, Rajiv,Narasimha Rao as PM's openend up doors and todays retailing success is due to them.we need better water,soil,air,infrastructure,Mass transit systems, Educational facilities, Research facilities. Unless we open our mindset that we can achieve we will remain with slow progress and inferior life style.
I am disappointed with Indias's view on Low carbon economy or carbon emission cutting.
It is fact that Global Warming is "TRUELY GLOBAL ISSUE" and every country should have obligation towards reducing carbon emissions.
India as largest devloping country should look forward towards greener technology and need to support to bring down carbon emissions.
If Not NOW ---in future we have to agree the fact that we have sowed the seeds of Environmental destruction .
Future is very terrible without green Technologies.
Keeping aside diplomatic or strategic points each and every country need to work towards betterment of ENVIRONMENT.
INIDA as largest devloing country obviosly having large industrial sector. These clusters are mainly situated nearby most of the cities where resiedential areas are in close proximity. Not only Environmental point of view but form Health angle it is ONE OF THE MUST REQUIREMENT to CUT DOWN CARBON EMISSION
India should have signed expressing its view points.
Low carbon technologies require policy support and these need to be enforced.
India is shying away from challenge which helps its own peoples lives, livelihoods this is historic blunder and Mr.Jairam ramesh has to rethink.GOI policies on Carbon emissions, Biofuels are all blurred. we already have fallen back by decade in technological progress in these fronts. unless we act now we will have to buy these wasting resources.
Well this is just so typical from Govt. The global warming is going to hit us hard in near future. With the changes in monsoon patterns, rising mercury levels during summer, higher tides & dwindling resources, we are not going to go anywhere. Though our share as a polluter is less compared to developed countries, we will suffer more than most of them having huge coastlines & many big cities in coastal region. Though small the govt should take some steps in right direction.
Power consumption increases in summer and then we see power crisis. Every time there is power cut we curse govt and wish to have private power connection. Ahmedabad in Gujarat already gets private power suly through Torrent. Should same thing can...
We cannot live with power cuts though there is a lot we need to do. Nuclear power is the answer and till when we do not develop an alternative to this we just cannot help it.
