Dr Gaur, Your points are very genuine, however India has its sight to be a Global Power. To be a global power, India must learn to deal with its problems to be a stable nation first, a respected regional power, and eventually a recognised global power. India is lucky to have a strong media presence and friendly nations in west, who are not doing a propaganda war against us, like against Islamic nations. 74 Indian troopers slaughter to death in dantewala was not really a headline in BBC and western media, however bomb attack killing 2 people in Pakistan was a huge headline. If India cant even have excellent relations with a Hindu Nepal or a Buddhist / Hindu Sri-Lanka, then there certainly is a problem with Indian foreign policy.
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Nitin Ticku, Convener-Marketing, Service Marketing
| 06 15 2010 05:16:38 +0000
Indians are trying to maintain stability, but the resurgent regions are augmenting. Kashmir, North East, Central and East India, are border issues with our neighbours. Earlier there was problem in Punjab, Tamil Nadu (Indian govt has now invested in these regions, but what about others??)
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Nitin Ticku, Convener-Marketing, Service Marketing
| 06 15 2010 05:05:52 +0000
Please see my answers below. -- never poke our nose in others' domestic affairs: Yes we did, Nepal, Bhutan, Sri-lanka. -- did not act as ( self declared ) Big Brother of the globe ? Not around the globe, but in south Asia we did. We have been bullying our neighbours just like Russia has been doing to other CIS states. We must remember that our neighbours are independent sovereign nations now, and we must respect their foreign policies. -- we did not undermine the existence of UNO as world body forum and made it virtually defunct ? Ok agreed, however as a smart nation, we have used them if and when it benefits us. -- did not use our RAW as CIA is/ was : to play hovc world over to gurner to the selfish interests of the USA ? This one I would love to answer. LTTE was sponsored, trained, and used against lanka, bu RAW. That happened after deep links of Lanka with Pakistan. RAW had a huge hand in the breakdown of Bangladesh. RAW is also believed to be involved in AF-PAK border, and creating havoc on both the sides, especially Pakistan.
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Nitin Ticku, Convener-Marketing, Service Marketing
| 06 15 2010 05:00:37 +0000
I completely agree to your points. We should stop in being foolishly patriotic, and work towards prosperity of India people, and practise democracy (not just blow our horns that we are the biggest democracy in the world). Democracy in meaningless to more that 75% of Indian population.
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Nitin Ticku, Convener-Marketing, Service Marketing
| 06 15 2010 04:50:45 +0000
Kavita, I completely agree to some of your points you have made. However you have laid complete emphasis on "Financial Aspects". Financially India is very stable, but when it comes to political stability, India lags behind. With insurgency in Kashmir, North East, Central & East India, and volatile relationship with our neighbours, we must admit that politically India is not very stable and peaceful.
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Nitin Ticku, Convener-Marketing, Service Marketing
| 06 15 2010 04:44:08 +0000
To all those who are touting India as a democracy , I would like to ask : what has India's democratic credentials meant to the hundreds of millions who slave everyday for less than Rs. 100 ? To any middle-class person , who has an assured income of even Rs. 5000 per month , can you imagine what life is like when you slave for more than 12 hours a day to end up with less than Rs. 100 ? Millions of us take out the car keys to buy a cigarette ; can you imagine what it is like to walk 5 kms. for a bucket of water ? Democracy is irrelevant to the millions who do not know where their next meal is going to come from. Let us just compare India's status with Brazil ; Brazil has a history of military dictatorships ; several of its Presidents have lasted just a year or so. Despite all this political turmoil , compare Brazil's standing according to various global reports vs. India's : Global Peace Index - Brazil is at 83 , India is at 128 , out of 144. Human Development Index - Brazil : 75 , India : 134 , out of 182 Corruption Perceptions Index - Brazil : 75 , India : 84 , out of 180 It is only on the Global Competitiveness Report that India is ahead of Brazil. But even there , consider India's ranking in 2009 was 48 , in 2008 it was 50 , while in 2007 it was 49. Brazil has risen from 72 in 2007 , to 64 in 2008 , to 56 in 2009 , steady growth , which indicates that in the near future , it will overtake India on this list also. Stability has meaning only if the resulting prosperity is shared by everyone , otherwise this stability is nothing more than stagnation or even worse , decay.
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K. NARAYAN, None, None
| 06 15 2010 04:18:32 +0000
I support Nitin. Coming out of the recession is no sign that India is stable. I think everyone will agree that with hundreds of millions below the poverty line , India's progress has not percolated to the lower layers of people. The government has failed its people , and only time will tell whether the future brightens or becomes dimmer. All the problems that Nitin speaks of , are real problems , and pointing to our economic progress will not help. Israel is a country in the grip of terrorism. The fact that it has progressed economically and militarily does not mean anything ; given the choice of residing in Israel and another country like Switzerland or New Zealand , which country will anyone opt for ? It is a fact today that foreigners are reluctant to come to India , either because of its lack of development or due to the corruption in this country or due to the militancy in various places. When India becomes an attractive tourist destination , only then can we say that it is a stable country.
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K. NARAYAN, None, None
| 06 14 2010 11:14:33 +0000
The Global Peace Index, released by the US Department of State termed India as one of the worlds most unstable countries in the world today. Indian arch enemy Pakistan, has been ranked forth most unstable nations, just ahead of Iraq, Somalia, Afghanistan and Sudan.
India has been ranked 128th out of total 149 countries, and with issue like Kashmir, Pakistan, North East, Naxalites, LTTE (down south), I guess this position from global perspective is quite justified.
Iceland is the world most peaceful nation, while other nations like United States have been ranked (97), Pakistan(145) Nepal (80) (surprisingly higher than India), Our buddies Israel(136), Iran(105), and our old strategic partners Russia has been placed 131).
Kashmir separatist movement has been going on for over 20 years, and still unresolved, North East around 40 years, while naxalism has not only dented Indian reputation, but also demonstrated to the world that India is far away from being a stable regional power(forget about being a world power).
The question is why is India unable to resolve it’s problems? Why does India have problem with almost all it’s neighbours i.e. Nepal(has developed strong anti Indian feeling, and seen as pro China now ), Sri Lanka (traditional ally of Pakistan, and received support in 1971 war), Bangladesh (did not take them too long to become anti India), China (a high tension relationship )and lastly Pakistan(still there is no sign of peace, despite cultural and linguistic similarities).
Is India still following Russian / Soviet footsteps (as Russia is seen as a bully in CIS states, and treats it’s little neighbours with belligerence, with a colonial hangover? It’s time for Indian think tanks to re-analyse their South Asian policy, if they have are to achieve their ambition of being a global power.
This starts with being a stable country first, a stable regional power second, and then we can think of being a global power!
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Nitin Ticku, Convener-Marketing, Service Marketing
| 06 14 2010 06:29:58 +0000
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India is Stable at all times. I agree what Kavitha said, it is really true that India has managed very well with its strong financial policies laid at the time of recessions where as bigger and stronger countries like US and UK where rolling down to -ve's. We are not much effected because of our stability and that is shown in our economy growth with GDP.
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Greeshma Reddy, Regional Marketing Manager, eInflexion Pte Ltd
| 06 15 2010 04:27:51 +0000
In nearly 60+ years since independance, India has been a stable democracy. Whatever may happen, Indians have shown ( a la emergency) a strong ubndeniable preference for democratic institrutions. In all these years, though the temptation has been there to use arms against Pakistan, India has done so only under highly extenuating circumstances like when more than 2 million refugees crossed over in to WB from the then East Pakistan. India has reacted in a restrained manner for all the provocation from Pakistan. It has taken all issues that can be highlighted on the intl stage only to the intl stage. It has not gone bawling to the intl stage for everything the way some countries do. While we have regional preferneces that do influence our decision making, we have been a very responsible and constructive regional player - like our involvement in Afganistan. India managed to survive the economic problems of the last 3 years without the fuss that was present in the other countries. India has taken a very constructive approach towards the Tibet problem. It has avoided confrontation of any sort with the chinese since the 1960s. I could go on and on. India is beyond doubts a stable power .....more stable than many of the so called developed countries.
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RAMESH KANDADAI, Principal Consultant, ARM Consultants
| 06 15 2010 03:15:30 +0000
Thanks for inviting : Hi ... everybody. Are India un-stable : -- as we never adopted agressive Foreign Policy to bully others around ? -- never poke our nose in others' domestic affairs ? -- did not act as ( self declared ) Big Brother of the globe ? -- we did not underme the existence of UNO as world body forum and made it virtually defanct ? -- did not encourage Arms' Industry to pile up buffer stock for selling to warring countries ( and secretly adding fuel to fire ) ? -- did not use Dollar for buying hunger, proverty of other nations and making "war-bases" in those hunger-striken countries ? -- did not use our RAW as CIA is/ was : to play hovc world over to gurner to the selfish interests of the USA ? ......................................... Ultimately India will win ... we are peace makers, want world peace ... want peace for us also. Unfortunately, our neighbours are in some problem ... ors is a great democracy, an old civilisation. We have patience in built. We do not cherish to be a Big Brother, but one may not ignore our strength, actually "world is calling us". Thanks
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ASOKE KUSARI, Domestic Private Banking-Executive/Manager, A large leading PSU Bank - India
| 06 14 2010 17:17:00 +0000
I am not sure who gave the concept that LTTE is trouble in south India. It is a problem of Srilanka not Tamil nadu now. Coming to point, You can validate the authenticity of the report by comparing the problems of Nepal (Maoist), Political killings etc. Iran's position etc. I don't believe that Iran is a peaceful country. If it is peaceful country then y there are sooo many sanctions against them. y restrictions for those people. Also everyone knows the problems of Nepal. lot of political killings and riots. No idea who gave the peace index to that country also. In India we have naxal issue and Kashmir issue. Other than that there is no issues. Also these indexes are for those people who need to satisfy some country. Remember There is a country which termed our Country's Army as illegal organisation which involves in terrorizing acts. So don't care about these reports.
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albert arul prakash, Product specialist, Consona Software Pvt Limited
| 06 14 2010 15:00:49 +0000
Dear Mr. Gaur , You are right in saying that we should not believe reports from vested interests ; but neither should we bury our heads in the sand and believe there is nothing wrong with our country. The Maoist problem , encompassing nearly half a dozen states , has nothing to do with vested interests. The problem in the North East is also an internal problem. After the recent exposure of fake encounters in Kashmir , no one can believe that the Army / Police is totally innocent ; instead of evolving a solution to the problem , they have become a part of it. Even if we brush aside all these "problems" , we still have the country's population and poverty to deal with ; when will these problems be solved ? Or do you think that these are also not problems ?
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K. NARAYAN, None, None
| 06 14 2010 14:24:57 +0000
i agree with Kavitha's argument.One can take one's own body and biological reactions inside it. Our defence systems is taking care of our body to the extent possible and we are stable..With the same corollary,India's infirmities are being taken care of by its various watch dogs institutions to maintain the stability of the country.
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Mohammad Bakhsh, Project Leader/Managing Consultant, Freelancer
| 06 14 2010 10:48:17 +0000
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