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Created by : Javed Akhtar, Sr. Executive - Logistics, Keventer Agro Limited  | 03 17 2010 12:02:42 +0000
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Invention is the mother of development as is the root of cause Vs Innovation is the mother of development as creates growth
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Javed thanks for initiating the debate.

Navjeet I agree with you, NO invention NO innovation. In my point of view innovation is possible only after invention. For example the bulb was invented and now we have innovated it in different ways. So invention is the root cause of development.

Thanks.... 


By Sonam Kapoor, Software Developer, IBM  03 18 2010 08:30:01 +0000
 
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Thanks Navjeet, my thoughts exactly as far as the quality of the debate goes :)

Not my thoughts as far as the subject of the debate goes. What is an invention in todays world?? I have a very mixed feeling about the definition of that word. As Ankur has rightly put it,

'Necessity is the mother of invention'...

I personally feel that since India is the poorest in terms of solid investments in R&D inventions will be far and few in between. But progressive as we are with sharp business minds, Innovations are easier. To work on someone else's work is what we thrive on. To better an existing cyber crime system, to work on a better engine for an automobile etc. I have a feeling that in todays world innovations are making more moolah than the actual inventions!! If we can create a better interface for more consumer satisfaction in one product, I feel that we are already developing. Innovations are a simpler way to redefine product approach vis-a-vis consumer utility. Thats my take. :) 


By Makrand Bhave, Marketing & MICE, WIZCRAFT International  03 17 2010 13:34:30 +0000
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WITOUT INTVENTION THER WILL BE NO INNOVATION SO I THNK INVENTION IS THE MOTER OF ALL DEVELEOPMENTS


By Davies francis, Analyst, self  | 03 25 2010 10:09:28 +0000
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Yes Mr. Makrand, I am always with this topic and going through it religiously to see the outcome. Even though the given topic has been earlier posted by someone else but no has come to the conclusion till date because we all think that Innovation comes from creativity idea and Invention from necessity. As Mr. Thomas Edison has Invented Light because of necessity and implemented his innovative idea to reach the same. So now I think it must be concluded that necessity comes first then idea which means that Invention comes before Innovation. And when Invention comes 1st comes then it becomes the root of the cause and the mother of development.


By Javed Akhtar, Sr. Executive - Logistics, Keventer Agro Limited  | 03 19 2010 13:01:01 +0000
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dear all,

please check this out.......by taking neutral stand on this debate wd like to share one more article related to the topic..... 

http://blogs.bnet.com/career-advice/?p=387

do share ur feedback on this...

rgds

deepti


By Deepti Kulkarni, HR Manager, Con-Air Equipments Pvt Ltd  | 03 19 2010 12:55:52 +0000
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Thanks for the referral Sonam.Markand

I think that as NECESSITY IS THE MOTHER OF INVENTION, like wise INIVENTION IS THE MOTHER OF DEVELOPMENT.

Any product which is present has been invented due to the fact that at one time or the other a need for some thing arise which was solved by using the particular product, but it is due to continues research and innovations we modify the product and Develop it for better use.

 


By Dr Ali Ahmad, Medical Superintendent/Director, Surbhi Hospital  | 03 19 2010 10:57:24 +0000
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Hey Makrand,

Never knew the debate had existed before, disadvantage of being a late entrant. Had thought this being an INVENTION but never knew it was an INNOVATION instead. Your innovating it further certainly helped the debate in whole.

And yes, this has been a strange observation. The authors of various topics fail to come on board even after the debate reaches some heights. “Hindus being minority in India” and “Mayawati Rakhi Sawant of politics” are just two of recent examples where the authors never came back on the debate after starting the same. To keep the debate healthy with all views and counter views, should we not be expecting the authors to be involved as other members?

Thanks Makrand for correcting me and adding onto my information. Lets hope Javed is not Sulagana Brahma and Kavitha Shankar.


By Navjeet Sood, Business Head, ADI Media Pvt Ltd  | 03 19 2010 07:52:51 +0000
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Hey all TooStepites, have been incidentally following all posts religiously in this debate – why, yes am surprised too? Words that have been repeatedly used are Necessity, Development, R & D, Commercialization, Attitude, Implementation, Faster growth, Improved economy to name a few. Now trying to be a moderator, the views were somewhere near the very topic but not exactly on the topic.

Attempting to sum the posts - INNOVATION AFTER INVENTION UPON NECESSARY DEVELOPMENT AND R & D WOULD LEAD TO COMMERCIALISATION. IMPLEMENTED WITH STRONG ATTITUDE WOULD LEAD FASTER GROWTH AND IMPROVED ECONOMY. Now does this help us in answering the topic – INVENTION OR INNOVATION – MOTHER OF DEVELOPMENT?

Lets take a small example here. Posting this topic and initializing debate is an INVENTION (to me) and the topic to change its direction is INNOVATION (to me), and us all posting views is DEVELOPMENT (to me). Now, for the sake of development, any innovation would not have happened had invention not happened. For any Development / R & D / Commercialization / Implementation / Growth, one needs to first invent and then innovate to do anything further.

Hope this was not a bit too much of MODERATING and FORCING from me?


By Navjeet Sood, Business Head, ADI Media Pvt Ltd  | 03 19 2010 06:35:44 +0000
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invention is the root cause of development.


By Praveen , Software Developer, IBM  | 03 18 2010 11:07:56 +0000
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Thanks Makrand Sir, for your referral.  Really an "innovative" & interesting topic to discuss & I would like to contribute my bit [may be write or wrong still voicing my opinion]  

As they say an Art is always grater than an artist, or the Creation carries more value than Creator him/herself [excluding the World as a creation n the Almighty  ...the creator]

 I agree wid  you Navjeet, cause if we really do/can invest [money+technology+social support] in nurturing genius [by Gods grace we certainly have good amount of potential in India, we are second to none as far as creativity, innovation & out of box thinking is concern] & can dare to make sincere, consistent, passionate n genuine efforts in cultivating some masterminds ; we may become an example to follow for rest of the world & legally we can enjoy many benefits like patents , royalties which is directly related to economic growth & overall development .

 I know it’s simple to say n really difficult while act or implement in practical [risk n cost involved] however it’s not impossible.  Advancement or Improvement in original is very crucial yet being “original” is the sutra that we all need to follow. By giving its due credit to an invention or originality & by encouraging people to invent, to think different , dare to do different even if they fail in most [99.99%] of their attempts - we can start preparing/adapting ourselves for changing times more effectively.  

Being a pioneer or benchmark for others is indeed a gr8 feeling than following others as a benchmark.


By Deepti Kulkarni, HR Manager, Con-Air Equipments Pvt Ltd  | 03 18 2010 10:22:50 +0000
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Agreed..


By Vikas Bhatnagar, Manager Finance, Tata Motors Ltd  | 03 18 2010 10:14:39 +0000
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Invention is the mother of all development.i agree with sonam kapoor's  argument


By venkateswararao , ORACLE DBA, Tata Consultancy Services (TCS)  | 03 18 2010 10:13:06 +0000
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Well its right... Innovation is not possible without invention... but we can not suppress innovation as a concept .. Coz' though telephone was ther ... But mobile has become king of all communications... here innovation is on top.... where in first rocket scientist can take all the credits of today's space related  technology .... coz still the concepts are same... now it can be said that both are important and of one is mother of development other stands as father of the development.... 

Well why do we always debate on such topics "murgi pehele ki anda"


By Anurag Bhusari, Sr. Executive Presales, TSPL, Pune[INDIA]  | 03 18 2010 09:56:53 +0000
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A quantum leap is had from invention. Innovation gives incremental leaps. 

There is no doubt at all that for substantial progress Invention is the key.


By RAMESH KANDADAI, Principal Consultant, ARM Consultants  | 03 18 2010 09:41:00 +0000
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Philosophies live for ever.


By ALOK KUMAR SINGH, FIELD EXECUTIVE, QUALITY RESEARCH & PROMOTIONS  | 03 18 2010 09:15:55 +0000
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Innovation is something new or a new way of doing something old. It can involve changes in thinking or approaches, new products or new processes and often is revolutionary in scope. It needs to move us beyond the pale, metaphorically speaking.

Innovation depends on putting invention into practice, making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear and taking it to market where value is created for a customer. An idea may lead to an invention, but it isn’t an innovation until it is commercialized. The benefit is to improve productivity, create jobs, and prosperity, improve our quality of life and along the way create wealth in a economy.


By ravindra shrivastava, Information Systems(MIS)-Manager, iifs pvt ltd  | 03 18 2010 09:15:51 +0000
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Been a while that we had a GOOD debate in hand. Think here's one.

There's a saying in Hindi "Guru Gobind Dou khade, Kake lagoon paaye. Balihari Guru aapno, Gobind diyo milaye". Read Invention as Guru and Innovation as Gobind. NO invention means NO innovation and thus NO development too. Quite unlike "What came first - Chicken or Egg", this should have a clear vedict.

Thanks for pushing this debate my way, Makrand. Elaboration could be done on hearing more.


By Navjeet Sood, Business Head, ADI Media Pvt Ltd  | 03 17 2010 13:14:20 +0000
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Invention is the mother of all development as it acts as a root on the basis of which innovation works and creates growth on further development.


By Javed Akhtar, Sr. Executive - Logistics, Keventer Agro Limited  | 03 17 2010 12:02:42 +0000
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Thanks Mr.Makrand Bhave for the referral. I agree with your practical argument.

invention means a thing which is newly found out or devised.

innovation means bringing in something new and contrary to custom.

we are also applying innovations and innovative ideas in strategy thinking, planning, organizing, coordinating, comparing & applying reasoning and decision making in SALES & MARKETING MANAGEMENT. They all leads to growth and development for the organizations and in turn contribute to the growth and economy development of our country.

 


By NATTERAJA R. ARIKRISHNAN, AREA SALES MANGER, UNIFLEX CABLES LTD  | 03 19 2010 18:01:04 +0000
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innovation is the root and main cause for invention . innovation is base for invention


By syed farooq ahmed, B.Tech/B.E. student, azad college of engineering and technology  | 03 19 2010 14:25:30 +0000
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hi Navjeet,

According to me the debate was existent, it was also posted earlier albeit worded differently, now since the person in question who posted it is not in network with a lot of people I had this innovative idea to refer it all of my colleagues here :)) (That is called a cat licking the cream dialogue)

Dear Javed, I sincerely hope that you have been able to add 2+2 and make it 5!! Thank you all my friends for being so active. I would like to ask Javed to please come back on this debate and to pen his whole experience and his own thoughts after analysing the answers!!


By Makrand Bhave, Marketing & MICE, WIZCRAFT International  | 03 19 2010 07:27:22 +0000
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I strongly believe that only two things were invented i.e. fire and wheel by a cave man and it was sudden not efforted to get anything ...

I mean - invention is the basic fundamental but innovation is application and thought process.

Unless we find any application of an invention ... it is nothing. Wheel was the application of a concept arouse after rolling of a stone. What wheel we have today that is based on application means perfectly innovation.

Similarly Fire was invented by friction of two stones "CHAKMAK" .. now energy in differnet form is the application of invention again i.e. innovation.

So thought process for application of invention; means innovation is more important. Which helps in creat growths.... My opinion


By Nitin M Aras, XYZ  | 03 19 2010 06:44:15 +0000
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Innovation leads to invention


By harikarthik , B.Tech/B.E. student, sai ram  | 03 18 2010 13:43:48 +0000
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Innovation leads to invention


By harikarthik , B.Tech/B.E. student, sai ram  | 03 18 2010 13:42:51 +0000
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Innovation is the mother of invention.

without innovation you cannot lead to invention.

After invention you require innovation for commertialiation & development of product.

otherwiise it will lead to premature death of invention.

Therefore both are nacessary for development & growth.


By sudhir kumar sinha, Founder & CEO, Inovogen  | 03 18 2010 13:27:16 +0000
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No innovative thinking=No invention

No innovation after invention=obsolescence & hence end,,,

Lot innovation=may lead to new inventions,,,

I feel, as rightly said; needs require us to think innovatory and its the innovative thinking that leads to inventions.

Thanks Makrand for referring.


By ujjval jain, Retail, Retail  | 03 18 2010 12:11:03 +0000
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I strongly feel as Innovation is the mother of Development as creats growth.....

Innovative Ideas always creats inventions and gives higher benefits for LONG TERM.....

Innovativeness in Advertising, Products Launching and Different Strategies always help organisations to creat cutting EDGE over the competition and achieve the set targets and Goals in different ways...

INNOVATIVE NESS ONLY ATTRACTS INVESTMENT IN R & D and PRODUCTS DEVELOPEMENT, REPLACEMENTS Etc...

 


By Sampanna Shastry, Deputy Manager- Marketing & Sales, Arani Power Systems Ltd  | 03 18 2010 10:54:56 +0000
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I think mother of Development is Nescessity.

 

However from the two it has to be Innovation as with Innovation comes Invention and constant focus on Innovation will lead to wonders and development


By ajay moolankodan, handling the goa office, air arabia  | 03 18 2010 10:09:41 +0000
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I would like everyone to read the following : http://www.ipfrontline.com/depts/article.asp?deptid=5&id=16295

You will agree that in today's world , it is innovations which are more important , not inventions.

 


By K. NARAYAN, None, None  | 03 18 2010 10:05:51 +0000
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I agree with what makrand said, innovations are easier than invention. We have almost everything to survive the only thing is to use it in a innovative way. So I believe innovation will lead us to develop and grow faster than invention. 


By Jayant Vishnu, Art Director/Sr Art Director, Creative  | 03 18 2010 09:55:41 +0000
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Innovation is something new or a new way of doing something old. It can involve changes in thinking or approaches, new products or new processes.

Innovation depends on putting invention into practice, making a silk purse out of a sow’s ear and taking it to market where value is created for a customer. An idea may lead to an invention, but it isn’t an innovation until it is commercialized.

A country like india requires innovation to improve quality of life,improve productivity, create jobs and thus incresing the waealth in a economy.

As we know necessacity is the mother of invention, but innovation will bring the implementation of invention in different way.


By Hrudanand De, Area Sales Manager (Modern Trade )  | 03 18 2010 07:33:01 +0000
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Agree with you Jairaj


By Ankur Agrawal, Partner/Principal/VP, PeopleLogic Solutions  | 03 17 2010 13:54:12 +0000
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i agree with u Makrand, u may agree the fact that majority of inventions are by accidents or found for some thing else. anyhow, we Indians are good in further developmenting the inventions and becoming pioneers in it (e.g.IT).Invention and Innovation dosen't arise together but they are two faces of single coin.i mean to say,there won't be any invention if there is no innovative attitude and innovation dosen't come if there is no invention at all.too tricky but very vast to think and act.


By jairaj shyam prasad, Production Manager, BOSCH Ltd  | 03 17 2010 13:42:58 +0000
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I would so "Need" is the word here...


By Ankur Agrawal, Partner/Principal/VP, PeopleLogic Solutions  | 03 17 2010 12:41:34 +0000
 
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