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Created by : Esha Johar, Risk Analyst, Irevna  | 05 08 2009 10:50:23 +0000
Industry : Equity Research/AnalyticsFunctional Area : India(Markets)
Keywords : investment risk equity bond
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Where should one put money to get the best return on investment?  The couple has succumbed to the myth that stocks are more risky than debt.  In fact, the risks in equity are more transparent and you can watch price movements.Similarly ,in fixed deposits, we tend to lose to inflation, but most of us are not aware of this. Just because of the loss in fixed deposits is not transparent does not mean there is no loss.

Equity is very risky in the short run (two-three years) but as we cross seven-nine years, you usually do well. On the other hand, debt is safe in a two-three year horizon but loses heavily to inflation over five-seven years and beyond.

So,where we should invest?

Which one would you prefer lets have a disscussion on that equity or bond?

 
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It is totally depend upon the risk appetite capacity of investor.He is the person who will decide where to go.If he want to go for more return he will go for equity as compared to bonds.As equity is fast money, so high risk.... bond is long term, so lesser risk.

What do you say guys?


By Esha Johar, Risk Analyst, Irevna  05 08 2009 10:50:23 +0000
 
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Agreed that high risk should be rewarded with high returns.And Equity has given higher returns in long run is almost unarguable.

But I think asset allocation of equity or debt  in terms of higher or lower percentage must be done .... based on the age of the investor.As the risk capacity is higher when young and diminishes as investor gets older.

 


By suchita Ambardekar, Director on Board, Vir Rubber Products Pvt Ltd, Vir auto enterprises Pvt Ltd  05 09 2009 17:42:38 +0000
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Please invest smartly with SIP. ( Systematic Investment plan)


By SHRIKANT MANOHAR DANKE, Project Manager, Phadnis Infrastructur Ltd  | 01 28 2011 12:36:42 +0000
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I agree fully with Esha .
By Vidhu Dar, CEO/MD/Director, Shiva's Retreat  | 01 27 2011 18:01:26 +0000
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Sailesh I am with you.


By Rathin Deb, Freelance Retail Consultant  | 01 27 2011 10:13:32 +0000
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Esha Johar ji I am too for equity as in long term investor you get fabulous return,provided there is introspection by the Managers to the Public issue,while placing the equity share on premium,the number of times the face value the dividend also should be accordingly paid out.As earlier under the Controller of Capital Issues the 70's to nintees.After that nse and bse in Demat format,the very concept of Primary Issues has gone see change,but in the process the entire stock exchange other than Bse got a beating. And frequent scam from Harshad Mehta.I am apprehensive the bubble may burst as most of the equity shares are overpriced.
By kasturirangan.r , INSURANCE ADVISOR, Life Insurance Corporation Of India  | 01 26 2011 12:36:49 +0000
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definitely equity is meant for risk takers only not for people who want to make investment being very conservation...but higher the risk higher the returns. one should invest into equities but carefully and go for long term investments
By Jasmin Pawar, HR Manager, HR GLOBE CONSULTING  | 01 26 2011 03:10:15 +0000
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Investment should be according to our need. I would prefer Stock over bond. Investment in bond means losing our money as the interest gained by investment in these instruments not even surpasses the inflation rate in the market. However, it's true that risk associated in stock markets is very high but the more risk you will take the more return you will gain is also true. In these times when inflation is on the hike I personally feel that investment in bonds is a total loss. These days investors are willing to bear great short term risks associated with equities as compared with bonds as they know equities will eventually outperform bonds over the long run but the risk doesn't disappear over time. A further dimension arises when the investor must balance long-term goals with short-term concerns. Greater short term risks are veiwed as the better long term returns. Equity portfolio is virtually ceertain to outperform any fixed income investment over a long enough period.


By shailesh , B.B.A student, kumaun university, ssj campus almora  | 01 26 2011 02:42:57 +0000
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No, Equity is not riskier than bonds because as you seen the scenario of indian economy last decades the interest rate were fluctuated which directly related to bond. As you have amount of money and if you want invest for long term and relax about the remaining life you should be invest in equity because i believe that whatever fluctuations are going on market still it's give return of approx 15% to 17% so i think equity is better option for long term investment.


By Ankit Gandhi, MBA student, Omegan School of Business  | 08 04 2009 07:40:52 +0000
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OFCOURSE EQUITY,since it is based on share market and there are always fluctuations in share market but in the long run there is more benefit than bonds,

if a person can take risk should opt for equity and those who are affraid of taking any risk opt bonds


By SB DIKSHIT, STATE QUALITY MONITOR, U.P.R.R.D.A  | 08 04 2009 04:56:33 +0000
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People should play safe and meanwhile earn handsomely so there has to be balance between both of them. I feel to diversify portfolio in such a way that one can hedgge position over other so to gin more from equity one should invest some amount in bonds but allocation should be more toward equity as that will increase risk apetite of person, as he has already invested some amount in safe holding.


By Abhay Dodiya, B.Com. M.B.A.(Fin.)  | 05 28 2009 04:55:28 +0000
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If the volatility in bonds is so high as indicated by  sumeet ,dushyant. Then F.D remains a better alternative to bonds. Also FCD of companies like Tata Capital can be taken into consideration,whose tenure of longterm time gives the holder an option and also possibility of returns on this bonds beating  the inflation while giving returns.


By suchita Ambardekar, Director on Board, Vir Rubber Products Pvt Ltd, Vir auto enterprises Pvt Ltd  | 05 13 2009 07:49:19 +0000
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Economies that support investments in Bonds and stocks and all types of other assets like, precious metals, ETF's, RIET's, Mutual funds, livestock, commodities etc; are called 'asset economies'.

People in such economies do investments in such assets for imporving their future consumption needs or so to say to improve their endowments.

Bond prices and interest rates move in opposite directions because when prices come down it is highly riky to invest in bonds and when it goes up it is less risky environment to invest.


By Mathew Cherian, Research Associate/Analyst, Western Michigan University  | 05 13 2009 06:59:08 +0000
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I agree. One can look into debts only when need to park money for shorter term,, else inflation is a big worry.


By vijayasaravanan , Partner, MS Contractors and Amway Business Owner  | 05 12 2009 17:37:15 +0000
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You have enlightened me on bonds and it,s related risk feature.Especially with economic cyles swinging so fast -inflation,hyper-inflation,deflation across the globe and continent. This risk feature of bond also must be addressed.

Thanks Dushyant.


By suchita Ambardekar, Director on Board, Vir Rubber Products Pvt Ltd, Vir auto enterprises Pvt Ltd  | 05 12 2009 08:06:46 +0000
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I totally agree with u Esha ji , and a balanced approch in this regard is good, taking ito consideration the age of the invester and his risk appetite.

 


By R.K.MALHOTRA , Investment Advisor, Trainer and motivational speaker, WORKING FREELANCE  | 05 12 2009 08:03:20 +0000
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I shall put it in a different perspective that of Risk.

Suppose one has the opportunity of gaining 15% on an investment or getting your investment back and the second option of gaining 20% on your investment or loosing all your investment you can get. One who chooses the first option is called the 'risk averse' investor or the bond investor and the second type is called the stock investor. 

In stock investment you may not have to forfeit all your investment one might make it if one is a careful investor. Only extreme risk takers or unprecedent events knock off your investment to zero.


By Mathew Cherian, Research Associate/Analyst, Western Michigan University  | 05 11 2009 17:27:35 +0000
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Dear Suchita and Jyoti, Fixed return securities viz bonds etc are more linked to risk in these volatile time where we see seesaw movements in inflation as well as in market interest rate. Returns on bond is combination of face value of security and coupon rate attached to security. When interest rate goes higher side the bond face value goes southward and vice-versa and due to this we can see negative returns in bond market also, beside this Inflation nos also play there part in bond returns and in actual terms they can hamper the positive returns of bonds and turn them to –ve (Discounting of inflation nos to bond return nos)


By Dushyant Hada, Territory Manager  | 05 11 2009 11:22:33 +0000
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I agree that it totally depends upon the risk appetite of the investor. though bond has less risk compared to equity, but still equity is the best investment avenue. the chances of recovery of loss is much higher in equity than bonds. we have to be very selective while choosing both, bonds as well as equity. Equity is riskier in short term but if we are investing it for a period say 4-5 years then it is the safest bet 1 can have with a considerable return much higher than bonds.

In the current market there were few liquid funds which gave a negative return, and a loss from it has not yet required. but in equity it is recovering.


By Sumeet Phalak, Mutual Fund Analyst, Jain Investment  | 05 11 2009 08:52:08 +0000
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The percentage allocation of investment into equity and bond will depend on the risk appetite and age of the investor. A higher allocation of equity may be desirable for young and for higher returns in long term. A certain percentage of bond/debt instruments may help the investor in a bear phase like the one we are witnessing since 2008.


By Upendra Pratap Singh, Head/VP/GM-R&D, SAIL,Bokaro Steel Plant  | 05 10 2009 14:51:21 +0000
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In debt market also there is a risk  but the return is limited. In the case of equity it is high risky but there is no limit for the return. If we are taking the risk we should get a reward accordingly


By Krishnan Thampi K, Head : Research & Strategies, Hedge Equities Ltd  | 05 09 2009 14:20:22 +0000
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Equity is more risky to bond, as well as bond also more risky than equity, all its depend on Inflation and tenure of investment. 


By Dushyant Hada, Territory Manager  | 05 09 2009 10:01:10 +0000
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Bonds are less risk than stocks. When you look at the risk vs return of both stocks returns more than bonds. That tells the whole story more risk you take on ste ocks more return you demand from it.

Corporate bonds yield close to 15% per annum where as equity can go 20% or above dividend yield + capital gains yield. So stocks are riskier.


By Mathew Cherian, Research Associate/Analyst, Western Michigan University  | 05 08 2009 17:46:11 +0000
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I never cease to be amazed by people who simply say that we cannot enter into this instrument or that because it is too risky. The investment in any instrument be it bond or equity depends upon the investment objectives of an individual/ institution. The investment objective in turn are a function of number of factors like the risk/return objectives, the liquidity needs, the time horizon, the tax considerations, the legal and regulatory requirements and unique needs and considerations.

Also, if we look at an instrument in isolation, that instrument may have a lot of risk. That way, equity does posses more risk because in the event of default of a company, the equity holders are the last to be paid. And the debt holders have the first right on the assets of the company. However, because the equity holders take this risk, they enjoy more returns as the debt holders have no share in profits of the company. However, if we look at the equity in the context of the investment portfolio, it suddenly does not remain so risky. Also the famous saying that one should avoid putting all the eggs in the same basket. If we have our investments in around 12 different companies then this risk is diversified more than 90%

 

 


By Noor Aftab, Director Finance, Shahina Aftab Foundation  | 12 01 2009 08:33:11 +0000
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Reward is always associated with risks, but not guaranteed. Risk may lead to very high return - that return may be a profit or a loss. In this light, bonds are the best options like fixed deposits, but tradeable. They give natural returns with better liquidity and better safety. Mutual fund investments in bond funds are always better.


By taranath joshi, DGM Operations, EOL,  | 08 03 2009 17:14:48 +0000
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bonds are rsiky because if you do not want to hold it till maturity and want to sell in the market,there is hardly any retail market.you do not have a exit.

they depend on the interest rate..if the interest rate fall the bonds prices rise.and if the interest rate take a up turn the bond prices tank.

if the performance of the company improves and the stock market are in good mood there is a chance of the prices of the equity improving and you recovering your cost and make profit.the same flexibility is not there in bonds.


By sandesh saboo, Research Associate/Analyst, saboo associates  | 07 15 2009 11:36:57 +0000
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Equity is more risky, but is more rewarding in the long run. I agree with suchita madam, the allocation should be based on the time horizon and risk appetite of the investor. The major risk associated with bonds is interest rate risk.  


By Padmanabhan R, Articled / Audit assistant, Finance student  | 07 14 2009 19:02:09 +0000
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i support her view,i would ask her to broaden her investment ideas beyond equity and bond..the other assest class like ,jwellery,real estate,metals,art.other fixed assests.and other class of investment should also be looked at.

fixed deposits,chit funds,bank deposits..land..diamonds..you have to keep in view how well you can manage your assests.have a wholesitic view..


By sandesh saboo, Research Associate/Analyst, saboo associates  | 07 14 2009 18:40:50 +0000
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Hello Jyoti, bonds are riskier than equity because if there is a loss in it it cannot be recovered but it is the opposite in case of equity, atlest there are chances of recovering the loss in equity. If we see, the volatility in the bond market was much higher than that of equity. But if it is the case of government bonds then there is no risk at all. No risk no returns.


By Sumeet Phalak, Mutual Fund Analyst, Jain Investment  | 05 11 2009 08:58:38 +0000
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Hello!

Dushyant I want to know that how could bond is more risker than equity? I m not able to understand the concept.As far I know that equity is directly linked with mkt, whereas bonds are not directly link with mkt. So equity is mkt sensitive while bonds are unaffected a lot by mkt swings. Bonds offer more security as issued mostly by government and offer a fixed rate of interest in these turbulent times it is better to invest in bonds than equity

Will you put some more light on "bond is more risker than equity" which could be beneficial  for me.


By Jyoti Rath, Sr. Associate, Barclays  | 05 11 2009 06:03:50 +0000
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hi,

Dushyant,

"Bonds are risky than equity" .I could not understand conceptually .Could you please explain for my benefit.

 

 


By suchita Ambardekar, Director on Board, Vir Rubber Products Pvt Ltd, Vir auto enterprises Pvt Ltd  | 05 09 2009 17:38:14 +0000
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One should have a right mix of both.This is where portfolio management or portfolio balancing comes into play.

Currently with low inflation if one had old FD,s then one was beating inflation.Again since march 2009 equity have given good returns.So right and judicious mix of both will help in long run.


By suchita Ambardekar, Director on Board, Vir Rubber Products Pvt Ltd, Vir auto enterprises Pvt Ltd  | 05 08 2009 15:51:56 +0000
 
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