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Topic : match fixing I.P.l.
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Created by : Abhishek Gupta, Director , Skills Factory  | 04 23 2010 08:19:10 +0000
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The way few key foreign players and Indian too throwing away their wickets in last two semi finals, it looks like they are making mullah somewhere else :( Look at the way these people has got out Kallis,Peterson, Gilchrist, haydon , robin uthapa , Gibbs , Symonds, Rohit Sharma .
By Abhishek Gupta, Director , Skills Factory  04 23 2010 08:19:10 +0000
 
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No IPL matches are not fixed. Many are misunderstanding the business behind it and the match. IPL is mainly for brand promotion and they earn more thorough ads. This is a new strategy for business but the matches are played sportively. We can see the real spirit of a sports man in all the matches.

So I don't think it is fixed.......


By Saurabh Awasthi, SBU/Profit Center Head, ONGC  04 24 2010 08:27:50 +0000
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Exactly it is a technique officially & politically designed to make money by some people with vested interest. Thanks for the referral Mr.Namrata Pathak.
By NATTERAJA R. ARIKRISHNAN, GM-Projects, Bentec Electricals & Electronics Pvt. Ltd  | 11 16 2010 17:16:52 +0000
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Majority of the matches are money making schemes & are generally fixed before.
By Namrata Pathak, Accounts Manager, American Express  | 11 15 2010 11:05:04 +0000
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It can be fixed for making money through bookies.
By SHRIKANT MANOHAR DANKE, Project Manager, Phadnis Infrastructur Ltd  | 11 15 2010 10:50:39 +0000
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I know quite a few ppl who bet on matches...hv understood the magnitude of money involved in this too...though it seems hypothetical but matches being fixed cant be ruled out for the sheer magnitude of monies being betted.
By Sujit Sood, :-)  | 05 10 2010 23:51:25 +0000
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Hello Abhishek, May be possible.

K Rajagopalan.


By k Rajagopalan, Area Manager, Amitex Polymers (P) Ltd.  | 05 09 2010 09:11:54 +0000
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Dear Ram and Naushad

First of all, U may not aware that how much money these B type Players have got for 3 year's( its very low compare to some star players) . Second, you dont know, how much a player get to throw a match, if its peanuts as per u than it by of gold.

third, there was a air that 20,000 crore was betted on final.

There are so many good domestic players in IPL, but everyone  knows the mysterious selection of indian time most of time.

why following players have been left out   eg- robin uthapa , murli kartik , pragyan ojha , saurabh tiwari ....... in coming t20,  So why wont they accept it the money as they know or dont know  the way to get in indian team.

There are lot of retired players as well to make money,  YOU dont need 7-8 player to fix, just 2 in any team can make the difference-- Robin, Yusuf, rayadu, tiwari, kallis, yuvraj,   I hope its clear to u...

 


By Abhishek Gupta, Director , Skills Factory  | 04 26 2010 17:44:08 +0000
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Mr Saurabh, Pls provide solid views


By Abhishek Gupta, Director , Skills Factory  | 04 26 2010 17:40:05 +0000
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Those who believe tht, IPL matches were nt fixed, I have just one quetion to asked..

In the Mega-Finals b/w MI & CSK, when Mumbai was badly lacking behind in the Reqd. Run Rate.. Whn sum 70 runs are reqd in 30 balls, Duminy cums out in middle instead of highly potential Pollard, and what he does is scoring 6 in 7 balls & getting caught. 

Jus why was Pollard nt sent earlier???


By Niket Shah, Head of the Department, Niket Communications & Security Systems  | 04 26 2010 13:46:27 +0000
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We cannot say exactly, but it looks like...


By Mohammed Abdul Bari, Network Support Engineer@ETISALAT, Dubai  | 04 25 2010 21:41:10 +0000
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It is the naked truth .....and most shameful of all is that those owning teams and their relatives do these hellish thing with involvement of some big political leaders.


By DEEPAK SHARMA, Business Acquisition through Bidding channels, RFPs, Account Management, Relationship Management, Safaltek Software Pvt. Ltd.  | 04 25 2010 17:48:01 +0000
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My consciousness still say "NO". But, the way my room mate reacts...when some one looses easy catches..i also tend to believe ...yes match is fixed....but at the same time i try to explain him...it is a game of uncertainty ..anything can happen....it is just ur presumption that the particular catch is deliberately lost.
By Rupesh Ranjan, Analyst, Progressive Digital Media Group  | 04 25 2010 16:31:33 +0000
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The I.P.L. has brought India all shame.

--- Yes, now made known that some matches were 'fixed' - further probe may elaborate things

--  Now India is at par in regard to "Money Laundering" that with Morisus and Dubai etc  ... crores of unknown fund was invested in IPL

--- Show of money strength and extra vaganza never done like this

--- Violation of FEMA rules, Company rules, Anti Competation Rules etc have taken place in IPL

--- Not all are political personalities, others got involved in the fisco - including national and international Corporates ( we like to express our 'graze'  against politicans ... as if others are innocent )

--  Further probe may tell us whether D-company was used in this dirty game or not

--  Had there any role of ' women and sex ' in IPL    ? ... probe may say

----------------- A now popular joke copied here :

---  AIDS      ...          =    Humans

---  MadCow desease = Cow

---  I.P.L.    ....          = Cricket


By ASOKE KUSARI, Domestic Private Banking-Executive/Manager, A large leading PSU Bank - India  | 04 25 2010 12:40:21 +0000
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You can see live now it is fixed
By MAJETY CHANDRA SHEKHAR, Construction-Residential, SINDHU INFRATECH  | 04 25 2010 11:44:06 +0000
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Yes..... Now it became trend for cricket


By Vipin Bhasin, Private Equity/Hedge Fund/VC-Manager, Indian Investment Co.  | 04 25 2010 08:48:55 +0000
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CANT SAY
By virender kumar, REGIONAL BUSINESS MANAGER, CELON LABS LTD  | 04 25 2010 06:43:57 +0000
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yes....yes....yes

 


By suresh asher, Agency Associate, Max New York Life  | 04 25 2010 06:25:26 +0000
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Can't say
By Omkar Kulkarni, Accounts Officer, Minilec(India) Pvt Ltd  | 04 25 2010 05:52:36 +0000
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I agree with Abhishek here, the way few matched have panned out, it does seem beyond reasonable doubt that there are some such forces working in tandem. However, it is also true that it's not the case with all matches/teams.

Also, lets get together in  our own way to thwart any out of court settlements being contemplated by these perpetrators.. It is a crime committed against a nation and not just a disagreement between individuals.


By Anupam Patel, Sr. Manager - HR  | 04 25 2010 04:23:00 +0000
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All IPL spirit is gone it was been one best source for having a good economy and opportunity for young players to proove , every thing is gone , donno who can bring this back again we lost the trust building it back is impossible i suppose . Cheers , Dev .
By Dev Reddy, Manager -Business Development, Relevante Consulting India Pvt Ltd  | 04 24 2010 12:51:29 +0000
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Doing business among business is no harm & need no justice. Sport is turned into business by IPL. So, no meaning in finding out if match is fixed or played.


By KALIYAMOORTHY , Oil & Gas Area Coordinator, Undisclosed  | 04 24 2010 12:35:43 +0000
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May be, but a thorough technical probe is required to bring out the actual truth.


By M. Prabhakar Rao, Author of "Mayhem Of The Miserables!", http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/52075  | 04 24 2010 12:20:14 +0000
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Great argument Kaj, but i believe it would be imprudent to apply the same argument to all sporting events across the globe. Anyways, it is too early to conclude IPL matches are fixed. Conclusive, hard core evidence is needed to support this claim. Till then, this debate will remain futile and uncalled for.


By Prosenjit Purkait, Apparel/Garment Merchandising Manager, Fabstract Clothing India Pvt. Ltd.  | 04 24 2010 12:04:14 +0000
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Sorry. IPL matches are definitely fixed. IPL should become a subsidiary of the WWF. The great ease with which matches are surrendered show that there is some other story ruling the roost.


By V. Srinivas, Freelancer, Information Technology  | 04 24 2010 11:24:12 +0000
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Yes, Mr. i think so , it's all about money , where they all can make fast money, by fixed the matches, and also they convert  black money to white income.

In that i am support you.....

Regards

Prashant Ajagiya

Zonal Manager

New Royal Ceramic


By Prashant Shashikant Ajagiya, Marketing Manager, New Royal Ceramic  | 04 24 2010 11:03:51 +0000
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All games are fixed by the rules of the game and the people who decide on these rules. And the main rule is that everything is OK as long as it is not specifically illegal and someone is caught in doing illegal things.  

From the history of the Olympic games we know that the men did not want the women to compete. The women sneaked in and participated, so the Olympic Committe change the rules: All competitors had to compete naked, so you could see if they were men or not.

Money is just one of the means to influence the results. In the good old days most of the participants in Tour de France was drunk and high on cocain.

Money is just one of a series of addictive means used in all sports. The right and obligation to make fair rules are guided by a small group of people. Usually it is the players who cheat and become responsible, the rule-givers are usually seen as above the game. Let the innocent throw the first stone. It is hardly the media who lives from scandals. 


By Kaj Voetmann, Senior Consultant, Beren  | 04 24 2010 10:26:33 +0000
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IPL is a big marketing gimmick, wherein all franchisees, players, advertising companies and all concerned including BCCI etc etc ?? end up making money for all obvious reasons. I do not subscribe to the idea that a player in an IPL team or the Franchisee would go to the extent of losing a match for money. They are making money by the tons. Why would a player who is being paid more than he would have imagined throw away a match for peanuts.  The matches i do not think would have been fixed to suit a particular team.


By Ramkumar Subramanian, Business Head- India Imagewear Project, Fedmac Corporation  | 04 26 2010 11:27:44 +0000
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IPLs main revenue is through sponsorship which is viewed by innocent fans of cricket and if they are lead to believe that everything is fair play and under the table if match-fixing is done, it is not only crime under Indian Laws but also ethically degenerated practice.  To justify such act, if match fixing allegations are true is a shame on the sport itself.

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It is not for us to pre-judge till a thorough investigation is taken place, now that the allegations are in the air.  


By M. Prabhakar Rao, Author of "Mayhem Of The Miserables!", http://www.smashwords.com/books/view/52075  | 04 26 2010 10:09:59 +0000
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NO... I FIRMLY BELIEVE THEY R NOT FIXED...

Lets undrstand one thing... To FIX a Match, U need at least 7-8 Players on your side & to find so many Players of That Nature is not possible. Second... earlier Cricketers were not PAID so well, Today they are HANDSOMELY PAID & PAID TO PEFORM... WHY SHOULD THEY SELL THEMSELVES ?

We are taking all this a bit more seriously... LETS ENJOY THE GAME & HAVE FUN. Even if the were FIXED...Did WE NOT ENJOY THEM.

Another Important Point to note is... This is such an Impulsive Game, that sometimes Players Play unimaginable Shots or Bowl a idiotic delivery... How Do We React ? BOSS... BOLTA THA NE, MATCH FIXED HAI !     Arrey Chill... and Enjoy the game.

IPL 3 was certainly a fantastic LEAGUE & has inspired some memorable Performances from MANY...

I WILL EAGERLY WAIT FOR IPL 4.

Happy Debating Friends !


By Naushad H.L., Creative Director, MAD COMMUNICATION  | 04 26 2010 09:01:35 +0000
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Nopes!!! I think so...Any Team in form or out of form have max. chance to commit mistake. Which has been proved this time too. "Pressure of FINAL'S". This time it was Mumbia Indians which made max. mistakes and played under severe pressure. But What a performance by Chennai Players.


By Achal Chhajed, Business Development Executive, Brainpulse Technologies Pvt. Ltd.  | 04 26 2010 06:22:04 +0000
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IPL is modern technology game of cricket. Just 20 overs, a nano game but sweet, interesting, facinating ,thrilling, motivating- batsman and Bowlers to highest performance of energy . Stadiums full of spectators ,all spectator full of zest, fashion, energy . Tickets are heavy compared to other matches but big flow for participating in matches as viewers . I Think It is not Fixing But love for gameacceptance from people . Viewers on tv ,homes, markets are anxious ,interesting. So it is not fixing . What is there in 50, one day, match it is there in 20 but more widely accepted. Now a days commercialisation is need so 20-20 is labelled as money money . Like industry ,business, Ipl is game cum business . If prinicipal runners of ipl have share capital it is good and legal . They can borrow money to pump up in IPl matches as reward to Cricket players just like taking working capital into Business, taking  working capital loan from bank or foreign lender . If good business cycle,wc  could be returned and profit made, if failed to return loss . so why to get burned for fixing . All the way fix is not good ,keep on changing is the rule of nature ,human psychology to find thrill and interest in life and i,e,20-20. Hope every thing is as per laws and acts .

 


By p-rak , Technocrat, S Tech  | 04 25 2010 15:22:05 +0000
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Thanks for the referral Mr.Saurabh Awasthi.

While supporting your argument, the views by Mr.Abhishek Gupta, Mr.Asoke Kusari and Mr.Kaj Voetmann can not be set aside. why such huge money in crores has been involved in IPL matches that leads to a question mark.

 


By NATTERAJA R. ARIKRISHNAN, GM-Projects, Bentec Electricals & Electronics Pvt. Ltd  | 04 25 2010 11:18:14 +0000
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IPL Matches are not fixed. In general it is used for betting as any other events, in India.


By SHAJAHAN P M, SALES MANAGER, UNION GULF SERVICES EST  | 04 25 2010 07:05:38 +0000
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IPL Matches are not fixed. In general it is used for betting as any other events, in India.


By SHAJAHAN P M, SALES MANAGER, UNION GULF SERVICES EST  | 04 25 2010 07:02:47 +0000
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It is very difficult to conclude if the IPL matches are fixed or not unless conclusive proof is available. However, the amount of money flowing through the matches may indicate that there is more to it than what is observed....


By Badri N Srinivasan, Head - Quality, Valtech India Systems Pvt. Ltd.  | 04 24 2010 14:55:58 +0000
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I do not find space in between yes and No on toosteps. I strongly feel that Mr SHARLOCKHOMES or Pirote should be appointed for inveatigation. It is a big ? who invest in gambling, AND HOW PAISE IS IMPORTANT ,THERE IS NO QUESTION OF CHUTTA  , comman public  could be crazy for gambling or for making money. so real game joy is for innocent viwers to see the game and romance on ground of sixes and fours .


By p-rak , Technocrat, S Tech  | 04 24 2010 14:10:44 +0000
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You can't really say with such confidence that they are fixed. Although I agree there is huge amounts of money involved in betting which could open up potentiality of match fixing, I do not think its happening. We have seen so many close fought games, and players playing with such huge fashion it really has been a wonderful tournament thus far. Though it is getting tarnished a bit with all the allegations on and against modi, tharoor, I believe IPL is still in an unstable state, it would take another couple of seasons before it is regarded as a huge oraganization for cricket passionates. It certainly has been hugely popular everywhere, I hope it doesn't lose its glamour and passion and it stays forever with lot of exciting teams and players coming. 

 

~Abhi


By Abhiram Shivaswamy, CS student, IIT Chicago  | 04 24 2010 10:24:50 +0000
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