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Created by : Sudeep Tarafdar, Senior Consultant, IBM  | 11 07 2008 05:40:51 +0000
Industry : Management & Strategy ConsultingFunctional Area : Organizational Development(People Management)
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Global meltdown is having a cascading effect on India and job cuts are a matter of concern. Which one do you think is the better option keeping Organization & employees in mind.
 
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Wide Salary Cut Vs Lay offs
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 Dayanand i partially agree with you as this would mean that companies dont think twice before recruiting people. Again, laying off employee just mean that you dont trust your employee potential. There are other ways to deal with the situation. if you feel that employees are not as effective in one project, you can shift them to backend job or we can even stop taking services from external vendors and start utilizing your excess staff.


By avena suri, External Communications, , HCL Technologies  11 12 2008 07:14:38 +0000
 
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I opine it should be both Salary cut and lay-off.

Salary cut in order to retain your colleagues is not a good idea. As there is dearth of work (during recession) hence lay-off while if you retain work-force then inefficiency creeps in similar to our Government organisations where less work more people around leads to gossips etc.

As an organisation (a body) it needs to be efficient to survive. Organisation is also an entity and it has to protect itself.

Those who can change over to other professions or find alternate jobs should voluntarily let their respective employers know and help the organisation they love to keep afloat and not let it sink under their weight. When situation improves the organisation will be the first to call them back. Earning a loyal organisation too is as important as you being loyal to it.


By Atul Saboo, CEO/MD/Director, Nashik Flora Pvt Ltd  11 19 2008 10:52:55 +0000
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During Recession "Wide Salary Cut" will be positive approach even mukesh ambani and many more ceo in world made cut in their salary himself. And it is also good for employee than Lay offs during period. Otherwise it is not a unique strategy......


By Vipin Bhasin, Private Equity/Hedge Fund/VC-Manager, Indian Investment Co.  | 04 26 2010 05:29:55 +0000
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I don't agreee with a salary cut ,because that just demotivate an enmployee to perform due to monetary loss, Making aware to an employee in advance before 2 months is prefered, so that he will find another alternative career option or to find a suitable postion in other organiasation.
By Hrudanand De, Area Sales Manager (Modern Trade )  | 04 26 2010 05:08:58 +0000
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Salary cut with a assurance of correction in future is a better approach of correcting the crisis rather than layoffs. This leads to better admin of finances and accountability around various tasks assigned to each. Incase of layoffs, the company gives a very wrong impression as the employees are the proper channels of repute than advertising. Further laying off shows off the vision and management of resources by the company. If you cannot manage your resources, then you cannot manage your vision. This is not a lesson that is taught in some management school but is taught to children to better manage their pocket money etc. Sometimes we need to relate to the basics rather than our gut feeling.
By tono sam jacob, Consultant, Daasl  | 04 26 2010 04:54:24 +0000
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salary cut is very positive because we are retaining the employee and secondly he/she is sharing the current status of the organisation which is again involving n motivating him/her to excel so that the organisation comes out of mess and everybody prospers n grows.
By dinesh kumar sharma, ZONAL SALES MANAGER - NORTH, WOCKHARDT LTD  | 04 26 2010 03:04:06 +0000
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Any revenue driven organization would take decisions keeping the economic scenario in mind..I guess, this is the time for us, espacially the ones in service sector, to create alternative employment opportunities for ourselves and forr others...sounds like a joke?? Hmmm...write to us - info@antscommunity.com
By Inamur Rehman, Billing Manager, Aptaracorp Inc.  | 04 25 2010 21:07:48 +0000
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Yes it is absolutely right. Think more than twice before layoff just because of recession
By Saravanan AV, Software Developer, Motorola  | 09 25 2009 07:15:27 +0000
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I should think so ... that wide salary cut in a staggered manner is a better option than lay offs, if at all there is need to cut costs !

It saves the ignominy for both the employers and the employees... At least, that is what common sense says !

 


By anup bagla, M.Phil student @ AHRD and Consultant / Specialist - Process & Environment, Energy Conservation & Sustainability, Stanley Consultants I P Ltd. (On Assignment basis)  | 04 16 2009 04:11:45 +0000
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Lay offs should be considered as the last step after all other means of saving the company. Salary cut is nothing but forcing employee to share the tough times with the company. But lay off is putting an employee into darkness on a fine morning..


By Shaju George, Facilities/Construction Manager, IBS Software Services (P) Ltd  | 04 15 2009 12:17:31 +0000
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I believe it is always better to try to retain your employees (the retainable variety) in any kind of situation, more so in a downturn kind of scenario. With today's workforce more aware of global scenarios and how it affects at local levels, it is imperative that organisations retain good manpower, whether in times of distress or in booming times. Either way, the lettng go of people results in larger costs to organisations including costs that are not evident in the near foreseeable future. The costs attached with rehiring people, once the downturn has evaporated, would be much more than retaining them. Organisations could invest in training, could take employees into confidence and discuss the issue of salary cuts (which wuld be more acceptable to employees than a lay-off). This gives employees a feeling of being taken care of rather than being shunted out. I am in favour of salary cuts across the board to aid the organisation ride out the slowdown.

 


By Inderpal Singh, Dy. Director, Institute of Business Studies and Research (IBSAR)  | 04 15 2009 06:30:46 +0000
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Right...salary cut is better option rather then lay offs. 


By sachin , Team Leader -(NonTechnical), Infor Global Solutions  | 04 15 2009 05:24:03 +0000
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In my opinion, salary cut is better choice then lay off but many compnay prfers reverse. And finally both if it is inevitable.

1.If we go for slary cut, then company will show the faith in employess as well for there system that they have not recruited anyone without reason.

2. In the time of recession, it is difficult to assign the job for  but resources can be utilised by engaging them in some other task if it is manufacturing or engineering companies. Because this is the time when each company should do some introspection. So this time and resources can be used to make strtegy and planning to make things more better and effective for future.

3. This time can be utilised to give employees advance training and at the same time, as quantum of job is not high than remainingg resources can do the day to day work.

4. If you are not going for lay off, company will get more loyalty of employees and get long term benefit. It is a kind of act whcich develop sense of ownership in each employee and ultimately company grow like anything.

 


By Sanjay Sharma, Sr. Manager, Ultratech Cement Ltd  | 04 13 2009 13:39:58 +0000
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If the company has two options: Salary Cut or Lay Off.

Firstly the organisation should discuss the issue with the current employee and let them know that the company is facing financial difficulties due to Global Meltdown and it needs to cut cost/ reduce cost for a certain number of months. Suggestion of them should be taken into consideration.

If they can come to a particular conclusion its fine else, the organisation should think about cutting down the salary to cope up with the situation and if its not able to, then lay off. Lay offs should be the last option.


By Radhakrishna Marar, Business Analyst, Oracle  | 04 03 2009 11:06:40 +0000
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I support salary cut but that should be valid in all levels and should be slab wise. When time is bad and survival is necessary, then all employees of the company from bottom to top should share the responsibility. Again that cut should be reasonable and should not create a virtual lay off situation.


By Anirban Bhattacharya, Software Architect, Novartis Healthcare Pvt Ltd  | 04 03 2009 08:03:06 +0000
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Salary cut is a better option, lay off wil create more disturbances and panic in a company, this will have a negative effect on the existing employees. But Salary cut should be done in a very proffessional way, giving prior intimation to employees, showing proper reason and this should be effective to all labels of employees in the Org.


By Diptanjan Mukherjee, Team Leader -(Technical), Navayuga Infotech  | 04 01 2009 09:09:13 +0000
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In my opinion every organization should have some degree of cushion mechanism before resorting to to salary cut/lay-off. I believe lay-off will be second in the priority because every employee in the organization is valuable for the organization. Even salary cut should not be on top of the list; what should be on top of the list is salary freeze, stop bonus and cut other expenes like travel, pick up-drop, party etc.

The cost-cutting mechanism along with some sizable fund for the rainy day can help an organization survive in the middle of recession. Like everything, recession will come and go. What the recession will teach us the way you can survive and come out as winner. Periodic review of company expenses even in the best days of economy should be top on the list. And I believe the stricter measures should be taken when you are doing best; that includes stringent performance reviews, not overgrow yourself and finally, focus on innovation and perfection.


By Soumya Kanti Roy chowdhury Kanti Roy chowdhury, Team Leader -(Technical), Polaris Networks  | 03 28 2009 07:04:58 +0000
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It really depends... If this is a short term situation that the company has to manage, it can be more effectively done through a Salary Cut than a painful layoff. If the organisation determines that the staff requirement over an extended period is much less than its current strength, then Layoff is perhaps the best alternative. In such case, I would first like to ease out non or low performance; the people who are responsible for adding these excess staff without proper thought would be on top of my list.


By Raman M, Software Professional  | 03 17 2009 11:28:17 +0000
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I agree with wide salary cut as why to hire unncessessary staff so that you have to lay off. Keep your self organized and focused. 


By Alok Sharma, Retail , Leading Consultancy Firm  | 03 05 2009 11:48:36 +0000
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Yes.Salary Cuts should be the better option than not having salary at all and the cut should be lower at the entry and mid level and higher on the senior management and need to be at more higher level at the CEO/CFO/group head levels.


By Ganesh Ramaswamy, Area Sales Manager - Mortgages, Bajaj Finance Limited  | 02 25 2009 23:28:31 +0000
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I am agreed with this option...coz its irrelevant to retrench employees from the organistaion. When corporate has much better option to save interst of employees like cutting some extent of salary or saving from other Costs by prevention like Energy Cost, Travelling Cost etc... 


By !manpreet $ingh, Management Trainee, PageTraffic  | 02 25 2009 12:10:20 +0000
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Obviously salary cut! No questions asked as you atleast you’ve some some backbone to support your family. Unlike US we don’t have unemployment support prog by government.


By Subhasis Bhattacharya, Sr. Manager Operations, Narayana Hrudayalaya  | 02 25 2009 11:53:32 +0000
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Across the board salary cuts should be the first step in the response to a slowdown, rather than a more permanent one like Lay offs.


By Vinod Yadav, Marketing Manager, L & T  | 02 25 2009 10:11:10 +0000
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If any body needs to understand the answer I hope salary cut is best option :

i) Lay off is done ultimately to reduce cost so the same can be achieved by reducing salary ,perks & expenses.

ii) Lay off ultimately increases pressure on all grades of employees so at a cruch time best staff may also be loosed.

iii) Lay off always have legal hassel when the company is bigger I mean more than 1000.

iv) Lay off always shows that institutional HR system is a failure in many ways.

v) Some how Layoff is not always possible in service industry & therefore it can only be done in labour intensive industry.

at the current economic situtation I think most of the companies should be very cautious in terms of lay off .

 


By PREM PRAKASH, Hospital Administrator, O.P.Jindal Institute of Cancer & Research  | 02 10 2009 12:22:27 +0000
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Maximum workers are mainly dependent on their to manage their liabilities it is better to have some cut in their salary than lay off. In turn lay off again will create problem to the mankind as well as on society.
By Bellala Gopinatha Rao, Project Manager Promax Management Consultants  | 12 05 2008 13:49:35 +0000
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Yes I agree there should a rationalization in the wages. I guess in India its highly unrealistsic. There should be a an appropriate match of the compensation to the performance and eventually the contribution.
By Gopinath L, CEO/MD/Director, iCat Consulting  | 11 23 2008 12:20:29 +0000
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I would be in favor of cutting down the salary of employees irrespective of the designation they hold. However this cutting will be done solely considering the investments they are doing as many of us are concerned as to how they are going to hold the EMI and investment pay off's. Though many of us has already declared their investment which is the most aspect of every individual. Also the organization has already collected the investment details in first quarter of Financial year 08-09, so the only thing they need to do is to give them a sustaining salary for their and family survival. This can at least take the burden off from most of individual.
By Nitin Jagdale, Lead Human Resources  | 11 22 2008 04:44:39 +0000
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Salary Cust or layoffs they should happen at the top management as they should take the responsibilty of not being able to foresee the situation
By Darpan Sinha, Tech Architect, Royal Bank of Scotland  | 11 19 2008 11:53:43 +0000
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I agree with suri, instead of halting recruitment and firing people, companies can look at this as a time to indulge in more corporate social responsibility. And also, if they lay out the problems to the employees and ask for suggestions, it will generate goodwill and loyalty. Employees might also be willing to take a temporary pay cut rather than face losing their job...
By Alapati Bhaskar, Senior Consultant, IML  | 11 10 2008 07:08:33 +0000
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I feel salary cut is better option that laying off its employees. Even at the time of market crisis, if your leadership guides you that we will not throw our employees because for us employees are part of the company and not just any productive agents, employee tends to feel more motivated towards the goal of increasing the productivity. Laying off employee only leave your company's reputation tarnished and what better example than HCL Technologies which supported its employees at the time when all top IT Players were chucking out their employees, HCL stood by its employees and have guided them that they woudl not be thrown out ever and requested them to support company in copying up with market pressure by cost cutting and have shown massive reduction in its attrition rate five years in a row which shows that the strategy - Employee First which is considered as tranformation drive by HCL is not just a dialect, its a commitment.
By avena suri, External Communications, , HCL Technologies  | 11 08 2008 19:47:25 +0000
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ya ... for the sake of employee instead of layoff , salary cut can be considered .coz i feel it not only increase no of experianced and talaented unemployed persons instead of fresher tagged unemployed people. 

so its again one more  big issue...


By varsha , Head/VP/GM-Quality, frac  | 11 07 2008 18:46:23 +0000
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I agree with Sudeep corporates need to resist laying off employees whatever the situation is. Companies should protect the interest of their employees. Whatever they are is because of them. The idea should not to be get rid of the people or staff but to deal with it...
By Anil Kumar Singh, Senior Consultant, GKC  | 11 07 2008 06:29:16 +0000
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I have gone through a report by Assocham, which talked of large-scale lay offs in the near future which is a serious concern over the job cuts. I do understand the situation is grim but definitely corporates should try to retain their people as much as possible and for as long as they can. It is better to have salary cuts than lay offs...
By Sudeep Tarafdar, Senior Consultant, IBM  | 11 07 2008 05:43:45 +0000
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I think the debate should be referenced i.e the debate is for period during recession time or all times and I think views may change with the associated period. In recession period I would say companies should go for wide cut as already there are few jobs in the market and yes ofcourse through lay-offs companies get a golden chance under the blanket of recession, to shed off some not so good employees. During normal times I believe salary cuts would eventually lead to resignation because the employees will be able to find the alternative jobs and usually the switches are on higher salary. So, in normal times making a salary cut would not be a good decision and in normal times the primary reason for the lay-offs will be bad performance of the employee or the company itself.


By Ajay , Business Analyst, Tata Consultancy Services (TCS)  | 04 09 2009 14:08:37 +0000
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I dont think  just by cutting down the salary a company can survive in this economic down turn. Recession concommitantly brings less work! Hence job cuts are inevitable, anyway. Yes a company can do a lot by cutting down the salary upto an acceptable level but it can also focus on any other extravangace, if any, such as minimizing the electricity/water bills, cutting down the fuel costs by decreasing the frequency of its transport system, monitoring the phone bills and many more. 
By Mayank Trivedi, Test Lead (Manual/Automation) and Quality Assurance  | 11 25 2008 19:52:32 +0000
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Suri, Most of the companies have a sizeable percentage of costs invested in human capital. That means it's pretty hard to cut significantly without addressing payroll. So most of the companies especially the big  achieve their cuts by layoff (a vertical approach) rather than salary reduction (a horizontal approach). And its not about employee potential its about the company at the end of the day. If there is no company then there will be no employees. I know companies do have responsibility & definitely they will save jobs to the extent they can but at the same time we should understand that the situation is very different & layoffs are imminent. As Businesses and consumers have slashed their spending and no industry is immune there will be layoffs & one cannot escape it. What else companies can do...
By Dayanand Deshpande, Senior Consultant, Ernst & Young  | 11 17 2008 06:24:09 +0000
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Bhasker & suri, what companies can do in such tough times when they cannot manage further operations where skill sets of employees are obsolete & they cannot use them anymore. The company has to consolidate its verticals in such times to reduce flab and overlap so churning out will be there. Every Business flow from start ups and emerging product companies has been impacted due to the slowdown & all those reactive steps will be taken to reduce cost on operations...


By Dayanand Deshpande, Senior Consultant, Ernst & Young  | 11 12 2008 06:12:11 +0000
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Companies are forced to take the knife to cut costs to protect their bottom line in such times & layoffs are inevitable during this period. Going forward, volume of new work is very likely to be limited and companies have already projected a flat if not declining pricing trends for the rest of the financial year. So their immediate plans would be to defer hiring plans, cut workforce and bench strength, increase productivity and moderate wage increases for their survival....
By Jitena Kumar Rawat, Senior Consultant, GKC  | 11 08 2008 05:24:13 +0000
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Lay off definetly helps both company as well as employee to realign their goals.

In the same region/country companies need to develop attitude to treat layed off people well.


By Ravi Kumar B N, Project Leader/Managing Consultant, Freelancer  | 11 08 2008 02:04:48 +0000
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Layoffs are inevitable in such economic downturn. Companies have begun preparing themselves for a bleak and uncertain economic future by cutting costs and focusing on efficiency. And this has been achieved most obviously through layoffs, which can reduce burn rates quickly and dramatically for companies...

Tech Layoffs around the world: (source cnet)
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Tech layoffs: The scorecard (updated) | Latest Business Tech News ...Oct 21, 2008 ... Follow the companies that are shedding workers with this live layoff tracker, which we'll continue to update as more news surfaces.news.cnet.com

By Dayanand Deshpande, Senior Consultant, Ernst & Young  | 11 07 2008 08:04:42 +0000
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Sudeep one has to understand and appreciate the present scenario as well. This is a different kind of situation altogether. What corporates can do in such a situation when they cannot manage or pay renumeration to employees. At least it would be better to lay off non performers & reduce manpower in some departments.
By amit chaudhry, Senior Consultant, IML  | 11 07 2008 05:50:30 +0000
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