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Created by : Chandra shekhar, Technical Writer/Quality Assurance, CMMI 3 Software Company, Hyderabad  | 10 14 2010 08:56:01 +0000
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yes,  it is possible that the rich people who did'nt do anything wrong become rich. According to me, if someone has capability or have creative mind to earn money without doing anything wrong,  he will  achieve their goal. like we can get success in marketing  by using innovative technology,superior mind, up to  date  knowledge about whole markets condition,                                                                          when product has good quality the buyers easily attract toward the product and marketer gets to earn more profit.


By Riya Bhati, B.B.A student, Institute of Technology & Management,Gurgaon  11 02 2010 12:15:52 +0000
 
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Its a bad world out there, its like you eat from my plate and I will eat from someone's there is too much of corruption and briber in the system, so being really good will not yield results for one to become rich, one has to do something which is illegal and bad, even if you don't want to do, the system is such that it will make you do those things which you don't want to do in the first place.


By Ravali , Sub Editor/Reporter, Creative Advertising  10 18 2010 12:19:21 +0000
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I think no but you have some option like land loard, god gift also make him/her rich without doing anything bad to others. I am also agree with Rajuji, G Kumar and Ravali too.
By Nem Singh, Consultant, Consultancy Firm  | 04 20 2011 11:51:46 +0000
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I dont know about richness in wealth but a person not doing bad to others will certainly be rich in heart, character, friends, society, etc. And he will have peaceful sleep. And his family will be happy. What more do we want in this world? Be good to others and the others will be good to you. You will earn respect and be always happy.
By Raju V P, Senior Manager, an International Bank  | 04 20 2011 11:03:53 +0000
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Let us look at this from a different perspective.

Almost everyone wants to be Healthy, Rich and Happy. Right?

And almost every person has a good opinion about one’s own self. That he / she is good and that he / she will not indulge or involve in any immoral, unethical or illegal activity. This is a healthy thinking and builds a positive outlook about one’s own self and also helps builds a good self esteem.  Also, this positive thought that “I am good”, etc., etc., has been imbibed into most of us by our elders during our childhood and this is one of our strongest thoughts that, unaware to us, keep running in our head (without our being aware of it) many times a day even when grown up.

Now, if we think that one can become rich only by doing bad / dirty / negative things and at the same time we also have a desire to become rich, then we may never be able to achieve this and it would only remain a day dream. The reason for this is that there is a conflict within us.

What is this conflict? On one hand we have a very good and positive strong thought running in our minds that states that “We are good”, etc., etc. On the other hand we have this thought that only bad or negative people can become rich. The moment this thought occurs, then the subconscious mind comes to the conclusion that you must not become rich (Because of the strong orientation that you have that states that “you are good”, etc., etc.). Remember, it is the subconscious mind that acts on your behalf and opens many vistas for you so that you achieve your dreams.

Hence please wipe out all and every perception that you have such as :-

A) Only cheats, bad people, negative persons can become rich

B) He must have done something bad, that’s why he owns a car, house, etc.

C) The richer you become the more disease you get and become unhealthy

D) Rich people don’t get happiness and inner peace

E) Rich people can never attain spiritual heights

F) Wisdom, Knowledge and intelligence does not attract Richness (In Hinduism, there is a wrong notion, which is also hammered into our heads, that Goddess Lakshmi and Goddess Saraswathi do not gel together)

For more please read the book “Wisdom of the Subconscious Mind”.

Follow this and see how it works wonders in your life. 


By G A Narayan, VP - Marketing, KE Housing P. Ltd.  | 11 18 2010 09:47:24 +0000
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First of all why should someones success or failure be dependent on others. There is no reason for that. Even if you become successful by harming others, it wouldnt last long. It would just be a for a short time. A lot of people would definitely say it is possible especially given the situation in todays world but one has to remember that in life things dont come cheap and easy.
By Jaygopal Raghavan, Marketing Manager, Landmark Group  | 11 17 2010 20:22:16 +0000
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yes its possible to become rich without harming anyone...but how much richer is the question...your 1000 rs may be equivalent to my 100 rs because i feel comfortable with that much amount to feel rich...so it depends on the definition of 'rich' that could really answer the question..
By Saibal Ray, SQA, confidential  | 11 06 2010 13:29:19 +0000
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yes its possible to become rich without harming anyone...but how much richer is the question...your 100 rs may be equivalent to my 100 rs because i feel comfortable with that much amount to feel rich...so it depends on the definition of 'rich' that could really answer the question..
By Saibal Ray, SQA, confidential  | 11 06 2010 13:27:36 +0000
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Do you really think that all rich people are in that place beacuse of that bad things that they had made? Defnetly not.Still you can get richer by doing many positive things and there are many positive ways to become richer
By kumar , Sales manager -SAP solution and BI Solutions  | 11 03 2010 13:12:32 +0000
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Yes. And Definitely Yes. It is possible to become what ever you wanted to become and that too with out hurting anybody in the world. To become rich or to become a expert in a particular fields or to become anything, The first and foremost trait required is SOLID SELF-BELIEF that you can succeed in your mission & Planning. Planning means meticulous planning with all the details combined with HARDWORK can take you where you wanted to be. You might think that this guy is talking some crap , but just remember NOTHING HAPPENS BY CHANCE.


By Vijay Kumar Allala, Project Manager, Satyam Computer Services  | 11 03 2010 09:35:22 +0000
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Yes. And Definitely Yes. It is possible to become what ever you wanted to become and that too with out hurting anybody in the world. To become rich or to become a expert in a particular fields or to become anything, The first and foremost trait required is  SOLID SELF-BELIEF that you can succeed in your mission & Planning. Planning means meticulous planning with all the details combined with HARDWORK can take you where you wanted to be. You might think that this guy is talking some crap , but just remember NOTHING HAPPENS BY CHANCE.


By Vijay Kumar Allala, Project Manager, Satyam Computer Services  | 11 03 2010 09:33:53 +0000
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Yes. And Definitely Yes. It is possible to become what ever you wanted to and that too with out hurting anybody in the world. To become rich or to become a expert in a particular fields or to become anything, The first and foremost trait required is  SOLID SELF-BELIEF that you can succeed in your mission & Planning. Planning means meticulous planning with all the details combined with HARDWORK can take you where you wanted to be. You might think that this guy is talking some crap , but just remember NOTHING HAPPENS BY CHANCE.


By Vijay Kumar Allala, Project Manager, Satyam Computer Services  | 11 03 2010 09:31:30 +0000
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No doubt but a YES. It is definitely possible.To become rich or can say successful all we need to have the capability to deliver constantly. If someone has the creativity then he can put his efforts to earn more and more.Thing needed is to keep yourself better than others rather than doing anything bad.   


By Akshay R Shrivastava, Officer -Automated Clearing House (ACH), National Payments Corporation of India  | 11 02 2010 12:31:21 +0000
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A DEFINITE YES. An individual has the call to take as to how he wants to make his/her money, you earn basis the work/occupation you are in and except the immoral businesses all other businesses gives the individual a freedom to earn without harming others, those who aspire to become rich in a short time or who are not confident about their abilities of becoming rich by themselves engage in crab race and harm others to find their own foothold most of the times such people live rich and die poor.


By Niraj S Kakkad, Manager - Wealth, Investascent Wealth Advisors Pvt Ltd  | 10 29 2010 08:52:16 +0000
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We live in the World of "Survival of the Fittest" . Its all up to us to look up and live. If we make sure no one eat from our plates. so...if u born poor , it's not ur fault , but if u die poor , it's ur fault.
By Tiju Joseph, Business Development , ALPHA BYTE COMPUTERS LLC  | 10 29 2010 06:02:07 +0000
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we know honesty is best policy, if we make a product and product quality is good then we survive in market, if we doing frawd with coustomer, we can't survive long term in market,coustemer like ur product then we make money easy from market,if you do think bad think like frawd with all coustomer or any person , you loss your credit
By UBAIDUR RAHMAN KHAN, SHE LEADER, PLANT LECTRICAL & INSTRUMENTATION PTE LTD, SINGAPORE  | 10 26 2010 06:10:30 +0000
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exept india it is possible everywhere in the world.
By Rohit Thakur, Electrical Engineer-Industrial, Quality Engineering and Software Technologies  | 10 26 2010 06:01:33 +0000
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I don't know if it is possible to get rich by not doing injustice to any other human being but I am very sure that if one does not harm any other humanbeing then for sure he will definately find peace of mind. Atleast he will be assured that he has not hurt anyone.

I have also observed that if a true person is in need of any help maybe materialistically OR otherwise things are done for him and all channels are open.

Keeping yourself and others happy & contented is equivalent to one of the richest person.

 


By santosh lakshmi vempaty, Lawyer/Attorney, CrownBridge Group LLC  | 10 26 2010 04:01:22 +0000
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Right and wrong depends on the person's thinking but if you dont hurt anyone than atleast you become rich from heart.

I don kno about money but atleast you will get satisfaction and peace


By manasi bhupendra maniar, MBA/PGDM student, shree jayrambhai patel institute of management  | 10 25 2010 19:35:21 +0000
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Yes, If your idea wins Crorepathy program. And also otherwise, if it attracts millions & turns productivity manifold. Sell your valuable ideas to get millions. Thats what World is doing. Use OPM (Other Persons Money) to multiply money.


By KALIYAMOORTHY , Oil & Gas Area Coordinator, Undisclosed  | 10 19 2010 15:25:00 +0000
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Both Rich and Good  can not be quantified and can not be assessed by the same parameters.Varies from individual to individual and situation to situation.As long as our actions are not  intentionally aimed at creating problems for others and as long as we think we are rich with what we have,answer for your question is a very big yes.


By s.baalu , Consultant, XYZ LTD  | 10 19 2010 07:27:41 +0000
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yes, it is possible without doing any bad, there are lots of people who became rich by hard work and creative mind. so don't think person who are rich doing bad.
By Sharad Gupta, Software Developer, CG Mumbai  | 10 19 2010 06:39:36 +0000
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Sure it is a big yes. Trade is a great service. One should not mistake that trade is looting etc. Selling for a profit is not bad. They are serving the community. Any good trade willbecome wealthy, the tradesmen become rich. It is by doing service, nothing bad in it. ( I am not a trademan. I just understood their plight)


By Gopala Krishnan.H, CMD, DJA-Inc  | 10 19 2010 06:00:45 +0000
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No doubt a great YES. One shall not confuse and think that a tradesman is looting. Just for a day, think there is a bundh, all shops closed. How much we suffer. So we shall assume and it is fact that trade is a great service. A good trade will always grow. Selling for a profit is not a bad event. ( Iam not in the trade. I just understood their role in the community)


By Gopala Krishnan.H, CMD, DJA-Inc  | 10 19 2010 05:56:40 +0000
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Yes.  But what is Good?  What is Bad?  Good for one may be Bad for another.  Good at one time may be Bad at another time.  Good in one culture may be Bad in another culture.  Dont want this to be turned into a philosophical debate.


By Raju V P, Senior Manager, an International Bank  | 10 18 2010 20:32:11 +0000
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1. One has to first define "What is Rich". Define to what extent it constitutes (to each this may vary) of Material Wealth, Family life (family happiness), Work Satisfaction, Mental Peace, Spiritual Growth.

2. Then one must ask the question "for what do they want to achieve if"?

3. Then s/he must ask if S/he what sacrifice must one undergo in order to achieve the goal and if they are ready for it

4. Then S/he has to determine whether the set level/goal is achievable using his/her material resource

5. S/he also has to determine whether it is possible with his or her skill / talent / knowledge / qualification / etc.

6. If there is a lack of anything in point No. 5 then h/she must try and add it

7. Then one must go about his/her activity with single minded focus

If this is followed one need not cheat or do any immoral/illegal activity or harm others in order to achieve his/her ambition to become rich.

Of course, one has to have large doses of good fortune and heavenly grace too.

And then, there are some who are born with skewed up thinking and they would tend to achieve their goals by any means because their brain is wired like that. So, the above may not work for them.


By G A Narayan, VP - Marketing, KE Housing P. Ltd.  | 10 18 2010 16:47:56 +0000
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Of course it is possible! Ethical practices are always favored. To become rich and successful, one has to always think and contribute something to the society. By doing things the right way, it may take time but surely it will be possible someday and not just that, you will also gain a huge amount of acceptance and respect from the society.

We have an example of TATA group of companies. They have always carried out their business by doing the right things and have also contributed in the development of the society. Their success story is a great example to follow for every individual who aspires to be rich and successful.


By Ayushi Verma, MBA/PGDM student, Oriental Institute of Management  | 10 18 2010 15:47:27 +0000
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Why not! It is possible to make money without harming other's interest through your caliber, expertize, labor and concentration. Entrepreneurs who have their vision, design their products,brand and market with all the innovative efforts with the help of the marketing team, Through fair practice, and spectacular planning they achieve their targets and become successful without cutting any body's interest.  Fighting and winning Competition through maneuvering the market and sound marketing techniques are not unfair but a marketing warfare. Everyone should attempt such fare games and win.


By Kanti Mohan Pandit, CEO/MD/Director, Center- Business Intelligence & Forecasting Cal  | 10 18 2010 15:22:32 +0000
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As per my concern...

Todays Fact,A person who thinks about a "good" thing or "bad" thing,whether we have to do or not(i.e.,who is in that dylama)...that person cannot become richest person.

A person who doesnt care about the good or bad thing or willing to do any thing to become rich,that person can become richest person.


By K.S.G.Raughava , IT, CMC LTD  | 10 18 2010 15:20:11 +0000
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depends........


By syamala , MBA/PGDM student, osmanania university  | 10 18 2010 15:13:16 +0000
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Yes, It is possible but not possible to every time because sometime it happen by opposite to our thinking ..........


By Mahajan Prashant S., MBA/PGDM student, Management,jalgaon  | 10 18 2010 15:05:56 +0000
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Yes, it should be possible in general. If you make your money through share trading, it is impossible to make money without making somebody else poor. This is the tradition of our universe to become a successful person after the storage of the Blood of Poor persons.


By Satnam S. Dhimaan, Project Manager, Germanischer Lloyd Industrial Services - GmbH  | 10 18 2010 14:58:34 +0000
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thats not a need to do bad things there are better ways to become rich without doing bad to others 


By adarsh t r, journalism student  | 10 18 2010 14:54:59 +0000
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Yes, it should be possible in general. If you make your money through share trading, it is impossible to make money without making somebody else poor.
By Prof TKG Namboodhiri, Director, Metallurgical Consultancy  | 10 18 2010 14:32:04 +0000
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Anyone who thinks like this should be ostracised. People start thinking in this manner and the result is that entire societies and systems are based on flawed mentalities. This is psychopathic thought.
By neha singh, Content Editor, Avestia Corp  | 10 18 2010 13:29:44 +0000
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Immensely thankful to  Ravali for Referral and Chadrashekhar for framing this question.

In oder to refine and reflect your views on this topic please go to nearest book store and get a copy of I Love Money By Suresh Padmanabhan /Rich Dad Poor Dad by Robert kiyosaki/Secrets of Millionaire Mind by T Harv Ever/Think and Grow Rich by Napoleon hill .Your whole idea about RICH will drastically change after reading four books.Try out and share your results with others!NB:Unfortunately None of the publishers will share any royalty with me for promoting these books!


By INDRANIL BHADURI, Business Associate, Real Estate Company  | 10 18 2010 12:51:28 +0000
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strictly speaking it is a hypothetical question. rich has many meanings.if someone has the vision&passion for what he is doing ie becomes rich over the years and this richness stays. if someone has suddenly become rich that means he definitely must have done something bad for others.


By john peter mendonca, General Manager, Sales  | 10 18 2010 12:35:50 +0000
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Yes, you can become rich if you go for a business in hote/foodl industry.

But what is the definition of ,'Rich'- in terms of money ? What amount?

Please be specific!

The topic of the debate is good.


By SHRIKANT MANOHAR DANKE, Project Manager, Phadnis Infrastructur Ltd  | 10 18 2010 12:34:24 +0000
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I dont think so...
By Chandra shekhar, Technical Writer/Quality Assurance, CMMI 3 Software Company, Hyderabad  | 10 14 2010 08:56:01 +0000
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I agree with ravali.
By Frederick Richard, Community Manager, TooStep  | 11 03 2010 16:59:14 +0000
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In this present world there is nothing called bad cos every thing is good as far as every one get there piece of the cake. If you want to be good to one person it could prove being bad to others. You cant be good to every one. You can never be rich being good to every one cos your competitor is not the same like you.
By G. Senthil Kumar, Marine Engineer  | 11 03 2010 13:50:29 +0000
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thanks Natteraja for referral.I agree completely with Ravali with her point of view which is true today.


By Rathin Deb, Advisor and retail consultant, currently as Branch Manager, Tower Infotech Ltd  | 10 29 2010 11:22:29 +0000
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NO.

Because there are many factors which compel human directly or indirectly to do any bad to others in order to sustain.

And the most powerful aspects won’t come out ever. Though every one will be knowing & following.

If you want to be rich in this life. You have to be Bad. Coz it’s good to be Bad (not worse) in Corporate Sector.

TATA's bad doings is wrapped up in their Social Responsibilities they are doing.



By JOGINDER SINGH CHANDNANI, MMS Student (IES MCRC, Bandra)  | 10 29 2010 05:47:05 +0000
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Thanks Natteraja, i agree with you.But why some one want to become rich at the first place.Rich in money spoils the reach and rich in culture extends the reach.


By Mohammad Bakhsh, Consultant(Civil), Rail Vikas Nigam Limited  | 10 26 2010 05:21:28 +0000
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Ms. Ravali it is nice topic to debate and thanks for the referral.

Practically speaking, the money earned more than the requirements is coming from the unethical way only. That is why the poor remains poor and the rich becomes richer and this does not mean that I am against or blaming rich people. The poor people do not know how to earn money and the rich people know how to earn money and this is the difference. 

The poor people, middle class, and the salaried class are the worst affected in our society whose income level is limited and they have to manage with what they earn.

We may argue that by doing business through ethical way the money has been earned. The ethical way has two sides. The ethical way of practices in business with the customers may be accepted, but the ethical way in making money can not be accepted. Money earned is not through ethical way. For example, all business houses motive is to earn money or maximize its profit only in order to run the business successfully, to make salaries to their employees, and to sustain the difficult periods during the course of any business. However, during the course of business it should be noted that there are certain things which are inevitable. They are black money generation, evading taxes to the government, over valuation of assets in order to get finance from the bankers, sometimes showing less profits in the balance sheet with a view to reduce the bonus amount to be paid to the employees and the list will go.... so friends do you think these are ethical ways... of course they are part of business. But one should not claim the money earned is through ethical ways.

The rich people who have earned money through unethical way have to spend their money for the temples/churches, charitable purposes, and offering in large qty to the temple hundies etc. to set right their irregularities. Above all the unaccounted money kept in the Swiss Bank accounts, do you think it is earned through ethical way... 

To get licence for business or  to get any permit from the govt. money plays the dominant role in getting the things done. In view of the above the process of money making in business is not thru in ethical way. Money is important in business and so money making can not be blamed at large. One more thing you know friends that is No. 2 business which are being dealt at without bills/supply invoices. NO DUTIES AND TAXES PAID TO THE GOVERNMENT.


By NATTERAJA R. ARIKRISHNAN, GM-Projects, Bentec Electricals & Electronics Pvt. Ltd  | 10 25 2010 18:52:27 +0000
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canabalism, carnivorousness, and destruction is rule of the nature itself.

hence there is no bad nor good.

only the result will effect the action hence the question of survival of the firm or the product counts.

party suffering will term as bad and the gainer will say good and after few days the gainer may become loser.

 


By shivanand shenoy, self employed, siddhi  | 10 21 2010 07:48:49 +0000
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Thank you Ravali. It is not possible to become rich without doing bad to others. The basic principle is"One person's gain is the other person's loss". The question is how much a person want's to gain ? Sufficient for his family, for the next gen, for the next 20 generations.??? The moment you earn sufficient money for your family, greed takes over... and it is endless. All principles are forgotten...just earning money will become the sole motto and objective.. Unfortunately You, I and the Questioners, our Friends and Families start respecting them. That is the paradox.


By Suryanarayan Murthy, Free lancer  | 10 19 2010 02:42:15 +0000
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On the assumption that the writer intents money/wealth by stating rich, no!. There are exceptions but very few and far between. It need not necessarily be "bad" but wrong or inappropriate however small the act may seem like a lie for eg. or using others for gain, manipulation which are all wrong but not considered bad in itself these days. Every saint has a past and every sinner has a future.


By David , Parts Manager, Ferrari/Maserati Spa and Bentley UK  | 10 18 2010 13:54:24 +0000
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No it is not possible. In todays dog eat dog world one cannot be both honest and be rich.  In this corrupt and violence ridden world it is impossible.


By kanukurthy sudershanrao, Operations Manager, Andhra Bank  | 10 18 2010 13:40:09 +0000
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