Is it right to glorify Maoists as "Gandhians with Guns"?

if they are really Gandhians with Guns,many problems would be solved.

Yes you are right Mr.Ramesh Kandadai Ji.

Always the violence will lead to further violence only and there will not be any end for that.

wot about proposals of peace talks why cant they step forward if they are really fighting for a cause and are serious about it

EXACTLY,ignoring her is the best way to pay tribute to our soldiers

they are crying foul for killing of 1 Azad,what about killing of thousands of innocent ppl by naxals themselves,gandhiji who was thrown out of a train never expressed anger but used the incident to be remembered not only by us but generations to come,perhaps we will never ever see a person as non-violent as gandhiji-having said that we wont see any 1 as inhuman & stone hearted as naxals,perhaps we will never see any other Indian passing a comment as stupid and unwanted as done by arundhati roy,its a shame!!!

just ignore Arudhati Roy otherwise she will gain uncalled importance. 

ahahaha.  Do you like to justify their killings of innocent people and even tribals in Dontewada.  Dont you think their acts as inhuman

No cultured man could accept the comments of Arundhati Roy comparing the Maoists with the father of the nation.  I consider Maoists as perverted and goalless.  Its ridiculous and meaningless to compare them with Gandhi.  Gandhi never preached violence and his weapon itself is "Ahimsa".  Maoists are character itself is violence, terrorizing people and get support.  I am not able to understand the plans and moves of  Arundhathi and Swamy Agnivesh in supporting the violent and goalless Maoists.

To say "Gandhian's with guns" would be absurd. But if Gandhi were alive he would have been equally disturbed if this was the freedom he ever had in mind!!!!

Glorification of violence can not be justified in any civilised society.  That society has to behave civilised, is as much a truth that we mostly tend to overlook.

Yet the question: has the misuse of authority and power by powerful be it in government or the mafia's, left any alternates with these thoroughly exploited people. Most may be participating as a choice between two devils thanks to thorough lack of care and concern by all those entrusted.

Do, people who thoroughly condemn them for their part of violence ever do anything to make their lives human at minimum. How many of us critical of their violence would be ready to actually take up their cause peacefully, may not find answers.

This certainly may not be the democracy Gandhi ji and many other freedom fighters, would have ever had in mind, where the exploitation of innocent continues only "ers" may have changed, at best.  

The laws have not changed, the thinking has not changed and the use of raw power has not changed against the helpless. Just the faces and number of exploiters may have added for these people.

Violence, Mansa,vacha,Kamana-by thaught words or deeds  is wrong and to take the argument further ,those who commit violence by their thaught and words ,as some Arudhati Roy ,are bigger offenders andshould be punished first and then those do it mearely by thier actions. By her strange comment she has redefined cheap publicity.

Yes i support your argument Mr.S.Baalu.

Sorry I could not support your argument of glorifying them as Gandhians.

You know, how our father of nation Gandhiji had got freedom for India, despite all third grade treatment given to all our freedom fighters. For all Gandhiji had got one answer that is NONVIOLENCE that was the biggest weapon helped to get freedom for India.

Ofcourse, the maoists may suffer as claimed  by you, but the path chosen is not correct to attain their goal. The violence will lead to further violence only and there is no end for it. The violence will never help to find out a mutually acceptable solution for the vexed issues.  

Rahul its a good suggestion. I think Toostep.com should provide a special inviation to Arundhati to get real good ideas as she has mortgaged hers 

I feel sorry to say that I had to argue with Mrs.Arundhati Roy that Maoists are in no way matching  Gandhi's principles even with Guns.

What I want to say is Their motive to save poor people is great but I think they were not showing it in practice, despite of that, they  themselves are troubling poor people who were almost depended on APSRTC very much. 

Disha : It is now known that a section of "intellectuals" and the Leader and followers of a 'rising' Political Force in WB/ Kolkata have all sympathy for the blood thirsty Maoists.

Arundhuti Roy may be one of them who often have a 'fancy' to speak against Govt, and main-stream thinkings. This is possible in a democratic set-up to voice any ideas. But, the Maoists are just eager to destroy this structure of Democracy.

They are killing all poor men only for their Political Faiths ( against them ) in the area captured by them, raising fund from the Contractors, fund for developments from the village Panchayet, resorting to cultivation of Opium in deep forests, recruiting young boys 9-14 yrs age group as Squad members, have looted Banks/ Post offices, blown up village schools and health centres ... etc.  etc ... think good ?

Very recently, they have dis-owned the 'credit' for derailment of Gandhewari Express near Jhargram for fear of public out-lash ... think people are not watching ?

People like Arundhoti Roy may not 'guard' these disgruntled extremeLefts in the name of Maoism ( there is nothing like Maoism ) for long - but, meanwhile, so long things take an ugly turn, Madam Roy shall strive best to keep herself in "lime-light" by saying odd and catchy items like : Maoists : Gandhians with Guns.

...................  need for development/ speedy development, resonable sharing of forest revenues, resonable shareing of revenues for sale of ore/minerals from the mines with the locals/ tribals, access to better living conditions etc  : all these are to be considered immediately. For that, again "Peace is Necessary".

Arundhati Roy knows that she is a country where law of land prevails.  She is not in China where her voice would not have even heard.  The Freedom of expression which is not curtailed in India.  It is only in China where it is.  So let her go to China and point out to her fellow mates about the attrocities on chinese in China.

If you support this argument, you must also accept that Bin Laden was a Gandhian with Bombs and Dawood Ibrahim, a Gandhian with Snipers, coz all of them has got their own reasons to act non-violent.

The death rate due to Maoist attacks compete with those during Kargil wars. And brutal murders are completely non-justifiable. While killing the people to get the attention of govt, are they so ignorant that the concerned are still ruling out there, untouched and safe?

People killed in attacks are those who also have their home, families, dreams and hopes. It is illogical and still brutal to wash out their lives to protect the habitat of the tribal. Can we justify the death of a 150 innocent people with 'a misunderstanding regarding goods train'? You or me, suffered are us, people. N everyone has the right to live, not just Maoists!

Gandhi protested against the real enemies, not his neighbors and fellow villagers to get the attention of the Govt! What he did was to show him in public and influencing the system in direct. These cowards should come in public and fight the authorities. Else, it will so that deaths go exponential, no laws change, no body will notice and the atrocities will be interpreted for political build-ups.

I feel, all those who defy the life of the innocents, are Terrorists, not Gandhian !

Violence is the last refuge of the truly incompetent. 

If you are unhappy with the system, then work within the system to change it. Using violence does not change anything. It only sets the system against you and your cause. It makes it more difficult for you to achieve what you supposedly set out to achieve.

Mahatma Gandhi
An eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.  
 
Mao Tse-Tung
All reactionaries are paper tigers.  (Meant for people like Arundhadhi)
In waking a tiger, use a long stick. (What a funny man.."stick and tiger")
Let a hundred flowers bloom, let a hundred schools of thought contend.(And put one bomb beneath it)
People like me sound like a lot of big cannons.(Gastric problems...!!!)
We shall heal our wounds, collect our dead and continue fighting.(For more dead bodies?)

Success goes to the mouth that is an old saying.  That is what happened with her she thinks whatever she says will be accepted as gospel.  She is quite wrong. Let her go to the places where maoists have been creating mayhem and make her statement and face the consequences

In the very beginning maoists were the people who were tortured to extreme ends.

The people who dint havemoney borrowed money after lending their lands.Failing to return the loans,they were tortured and forced to work under the money lenders.

And now the stage has come where they are just taking their revenge.

I may not be relly experienced to comment on our political system,

but i just want to ask one thing,Is this kind of revenge justifies in any situation.

Speaking about gandhians with guns,then i guess every single terrorist should be given the same title.

every person can preach violence to fight for its right,

In a democratic country like ours,the constituion gurantees every citizen certain fundamental rights.

But the problem arises when these rights are misunderstood with individual thinking and communal approach.

And its not happening because people want to do so.Had it been so,then why the hell  a million population is suffering cause of something or the other.

the problem is our politics.

I hope everyone knows the potentioal of ther indian army.Is it really a big deal to go there and kill each one of them.

Now if some1 says its not the sollution tokill,then i would be saying,"time has moved ahead of thinking about solutions"

Its the time to JUST DO IT.

Sorry, Disha I strongly oppose you.

Crime is not a solution to any issue.

Maoists are fighting for a cause.

It is ok but why they are killing innocent people?

If we can find out the solution by sitting round the table then there is no need

to find the solution by violence.

& who give them autority to go against Govt. decision.

If Govt. take any decision in any perticular area then it may go against some

people. But you should also look for the no. of beneficiaries.

Take example of Narmada Dam- Ms. Medha Patkar & her followers & also Ms.

Arundhati Roy are against it for just a sake of 40 villages.

As these villagers are going to loss their land which would go under water.

But Govt. gave 2.5 times land than original land & because of these idle

people Govt. have to spend 4 times expenditure than intial expected

estimate.( Which is 550 Cr)

& please keep in mind that whenever development takes place, then it have

advantages as well as disadvantags. & you should not stop development for

those people who are less in numbers.

Please don't compare Maoists with Gandhi, as Gandhi fought for the country

& these idiots are fighting against the country. 

Disha then Pakitsan shoudl be awarded Bharat Ratna for 26/11 along with Dawood Ibrahim

Special awards should be given to people like late Veerapan and we should promote local goons

Gandhi had a way of fighting it and it was for freedom, here it not freedom but for perosnal rule, people dont want the companies to mine because they want privacy so how do they ensure it is done by voilence

Why did they blow up a bus with civilians also , if they were so concerned they shoudl haev stopped teh bus and gunned only the security perosnnel

why did they blow teh train it was not carrying any security perosnnel but civilians

Communal harmony is cause of this debate I believe

Ms.Disha & Mr.S.Nagesh Rao has given logical points to create a cause for Maoists and that is not the complete truth. The way Maoists are working and if that is logical then we are returning to Stone Age; Uncivilized, Cruel...

If you can guarantee that Maoists will not kill any innocent , I want to join you favoring them...

Killers; Maoists, Naxals, Terorists or Local Goons including politically strong holds should be shown no mercy and should be killed mercilessly. Population would not reduce by more than 10 millions, rest would live disciplined and peace fully too.

Hold on Disha. I strongly disagree with you. People like Arundhati are either too naive to understand armed violence or are just opportunist. Gandhi saw the same thing in India and used non-violence for the same cause. He is thus respected. He was moved by the same plight or may be even worse. Comparing these hooligans to Gandhi is disrespect to the fight of millions who fought for freedom. Do you even remember the part from Gandhi movie, where he called off his movement when he heard people at protest, vandalized police stations? But instead, what I really don't understand that how can you compare your own Indians Govt. with Britishers. Moist are up against your and mine freedom. They do not favor democracy. They support China and their ways. Can Arundhati Roy hold up to her ideas for poverty and plight had she been in China? or do you think people are not suffering in states like China? We cannot expect people in plight to understand democracy and freedom but being blessed with education and food, is not our responsibility to favor orderly, social, democratic ways to reach out to people in need and stop violent people in every way?

Ms.Roy, a question, simply by connecting a celebrity’s point of view with a cause which is more or less contributing only to major disruption of a day to day system, is it valid?

Mao movement in India- The class struggle which continues even if the proletariats have already overthrown the bourgeoisie. Now the guerrilla tactics that they are adopting are only disrupting the lives of the common man, the military strategies, emphasizing on political transformation through the mass involvement of the lower classes of society, is not happening. Because the cause and effect gets diluted with personal causes and fulfillments, in this manner if thinkers, writers who are not in the actual scenario, put their point of view, how far is it justified?

Crimes can not be glorified

JUST ONE QUESTION, WOULD YOU CONTINUE FEELING THE SAME IF YOU SEE SOMEONE VERY KEEN TO YOU BLEED BECAUSE OF THE " GANDHIAN IN GUNS "????

Awaiting your knowledgeable answers....

Thanks for the referral Ms Disha,

I have to oppose you in this one, calling Maoists as “Gandhians with Gun “ seems like changing the symbol of PEACE  from  THE WHITE DOVE with the OLIVE to HITLER with the OLIVE leaf in his mouth.

Arunditi Roy is a writer who won just one prize for her novel. Since she still has to earn to lead the luxurious life (like having a house, car, etc.), she has to take up some issue or other whereby she is paid by the people she supports. She has just enhanced the pseudo aura of intellectual that was created by the media and others when she won the Booker Prize. People must understand that by writing books one does not become an intellectual person.

She has to oppose the government just for the sake of opposing. This is pseudo activism and is total nonsense. She has to be in the lime light to highlight some issue and she gets paid by the people she supports (and sometimes by the people who are opposed pay up in order to shut these activist).

Maoists are nothing but “Talibanised Pseudo Leftists” who do all criminal activities in order to keep their power centers intact. They are also being funded from abroad and are all anti Indian.

Arunditi Roy must realize that scores of victims of the Maoists are poor and middle class people. Constables, Jawans, Teachers, Railway Passengers, etc., are not the rich and powerful people who she thinks have oppressed the poor villagers and tribal. In fact, many tribal people are also affected by the activities of the Maoists. What about their “Human Rights”. Don’t they have a right to live and act according to their free will? Should they be subjugated to an oppressive “Gun Regime” of the Maoists leaders (who are just power hungry)? Please understand that "Power" / "Total Control" is the Greatest of all "Nashas" and it blinds the person.

Doing good to the local people, et al, are just an eye wash. What did the Brigand Veerappan do to the local villagers. He actually stopped real development that the villagers would have normally had, because he wanted to go ahead with his illegal activities in the surrounding jungles. And when they had problems (like hunger or poverty) he just fed them, clothed them and game them some money. This was done with the same money that he made using his illegal activities. Now, those villagers who did not understand this started praising him.

The Maoists are doing the same kind of thing. Only here, they are being funded by forces from abroad. These foreign money also are used to fund activists who support their greed to be in power. The foreign powers (like China and Pakistan) in return are benefited by these organizations and their supporters (activists).

The Maoists are nothing but Criminals and they and those who support them have to be treated like one.

KILLING INNOCENT PEOPLE FOR PEACE ?

Its Ridiculous, have U ever heard of something like that ? Arundhati has gone over the edge. Well she needs some topic to keep her in the limelight.

HOW CAN KILLING BE CALLED PEACEFUL ? and HOW CAN IT BE THE ONLY WAY IN A CIVILISED SOCIETY ?

If this is True... ALL TERRORISTS ARE GANDHIANS WITH GUNS !

God save this Country.

Violence only brings violent ends. If a system is wrong it can not changed by taking up arms. If we look at all violent struggle world over it has only brought about more violence. If the maoists are fighting for a cause then why kill innocent people. It is indeed very sad to note that Gandhiji is compared to maoists.

HI DISHA.

RUNNING A BATTLE WITH ARMS AND AMMUNITION,AGAINST THE GOVT RULING THE COUNTRY WHERE YOU WERE BORN AND WHERE YOUR KITH AND LIVE,WHATEVER BE THE JUSTIFICATION GIVEN IS UNTENABLE.LET US NOT DEGRADE AND INSULT GANDHI BY COMPARING THESE PEOPLE WITH THAT HOLY SOUL.

to support this statement  means to favour gun culture

there is no need to arrest her, only let her travel on next target train.

Sorry Jilsy dins, but you are being too accomodative

when you are a public figure & when your writing is going to impact on the mass view it is imperative for you to be extra careful. Whatever may be the cause & circumstances she cannot be forgiven for poor knowledge of History. She could have compared them with Bhagat Singh.

With a single statement she has tried to desecrate Gandhiji & his theory of non-violence. Gandhiji being the father of the nation she should be punished in public for her misgivings.

The present congress lead govt which proudly boast about its contribution in bringing independence to India thru the process of Non-violence under the able leadership of Gandhiji should take the remarks with a pinch of salt as she has also attacked on the present govt. Saying that Gandhiji principles of non-violence may not be effective in the present circumstances. Which means that our present govt is worst than the British govt.

Arundhati Roy by making such a statement has also brought shame to the writers community for being so irresponsible.

One good thing that i can see in this is that there is good scope to becoming a writer & also for setting up a training institute for writers.

No.  Dishaji I would like to oppose you in this debate.  I don't find any reason for killing the innocent people for asking the rights and Gun is not only solution to their problem.  There are so many other ways to protest.  I would like to clear it that at its first stage few journalist, intellectuals  and known people were with them to support their demands but the time they start doing all these timid activities, they left it. Glorifying them as Gandhians will be injustice to the soul of that Mahatma. Gandhi and Gun were the quite opposite.  Government must take their demand and them seriously to avoid further any clash.

Killing innocent people can not be supported at any stage. the people who support are just doing so to take political advantage.We must oppose glorification of  this kind of movement which is weakening our country

K K Nareda

maoists are not gandhians with gun coz gandhians follow path of non violence. maoist came to picture during feudal system i.e zamindari system but now the picture of maoist is different as top leaders sold them to hands of corrupt politicians as they support the opposing party to acheive their goal. but have ever anyone thought how to eradicate maoist. i thought about it and came to a conclusion that only we can change it if we act and think wisely. oppose the corruption. like when we go to tehsil office for registration we have to brive them to move things fast . but if all of us stop briving then all the things will be delayed, consequenceses will be govt. have to answer to people of our country.