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Created by : Purvi Ghosh, Marketing analyst, Percept Advertising  | 01 18 2010 11:58:19 +0000
Industry : Radio, TV & FilmsFunctional Area : India(Markets)
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Recently we came across the longest solar eclipse of the millenium and It was a day of Science vs Superstition.  The spectacle of the millennium.

The sight was simply awesome we all at office tried to watch the eclipse from the special glasses, though could not observe the diamond ring but that did not reduce its beauty. After watching it with my own eyes felt even more happy as in news it was told that, the next solar eclipse can be seen only in 3040, more than a 1000 years from now. And also there were many who were superstitious on this day doing and not doing many things.


People are so superstitious that they did so many things on the Eclipse day like,


1. Do not go out during Eclipse, as I observed that the streets were deserted and shops were closed.

2. Pregnant ladies should not observe the Eclipse.

3. We should not eat or cook during Eclipse because there are harmful rays in the atmosphere when the fact is Eclipse rays are the same as normal sunlight rays and the whole cafeteria looked empty till the eclipse was over and people were starving for no reason.

4. And in some parts of the country people who were deformed by birth were buried deep neck in mud and sand during the eclipse as they thought that it will cure them.

So what do you think people, Is Solar eclipse a matter of science or faith?

 
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Its just pure science people. Eclipse is just a simple geometry in space. I think people buy lot of things from astrology, predictions these days as most of them fear of things which are not real. But actually  there is nothing auspicious or inauspicious about an eclipse. An eclipse day is just like any other day, sun cannot be looked at directly on any day just like you need protective glasses to observe an eclipse as well. I was surprised to see people taking holy dip in many parts of the country, but nobody knew why they did that, and people though were starving like anything avoided their lunch till 4 pm, but I was enjoying my meal right at 1pm much to the surprise of many colleagues who gave me a strange look for that matter.

And many people do such things is mainly due to astrology being misinterpreted by half-knowing people, also blind faith of individuals, people do not question, like why I should not eat or cook during the eclipse period, ( What about the grains and vegetables in the field exposed to eclipse?) why I should not venture out during that time, and a whole lot of other things, why people who are deformed should be buried to deep neck during an eclipse, all these things happen mainly due to blindly following, which nobody knows if by following these things something has happened to anybody, and I am pretty much sure I didn't follow a single thing on that day, and I am doing pretty well. So, solar eclipse is matter of science and not faith.


By Purvi Ghosh, Marketing analyst, Percept Advertising  01 18 2010 11:58:19 +0000
 
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My learning of universe is that all the planets, stars, galaxies all posses specific amount of gravity due to their one or other state of motion & thats the gravity that  maintains the status quo viz a viz their emplacement. 

A combined gravitational pull may have some ill or well effects that might not still be discovered.

During this time we remain deprived of our main energy source for few minutes or the total energy patterns towards earth gets truncated & that also might have some effects of its own.

As an energy expert suggests, this loss of energy might vary the bio magnetic fields across body causing changes in physical vibrations.

To remain empty stomach & enchanting mantra might balance it.

So as the science teaches the logic of possibilities, rather drawing early final outcome, I suppose we should search out all the possible factors, after all I belong to a place where Kumbha Mela takes place & you can see there crores of devotees, national-international, poor rich, illiterates & even scientists taking the holy dip at such occasions (eclipses etc) for thousands of years.

How can we draw conclusion so early as the age of the modern science is very less?     

Yes, I find it to be a matter of faith for some, my argument here is for possibilities & I do not personally advocate such restrictions.


By ujjval jain, Retail, Retail  01 18 2010 20:14:50 +0000
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Not at all a debatable question , The solar System is working and all the strars are moving at their own speed. If somebody comes in your way, the shadow is produced, Same is the theory behind, except that Rays are being immitated

 


By Dr. MUKESH RAGHAV, Associate Professor, S.P.Medical College  | 02 04 2010 13:00:33 +0000
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I support what U have posted in ur starting remarks.

Surprised when one  I says ' it is pure science" and  ... then say BUT ( what is 'but' .. either yes or no : may there be anything in between ? ).

And another question : why 'Astronomy" and 'astrology" is being given a same platform ? It is never same ... !!

And .. India, where we live, was once famous for its "Black Magic" .. !! After many success in science, technology, medicine and so many fields, we remain almost the same in core of our minds .. !! One may not really understand ... !!


By ASOKE KUSARI, Domestic Private Banking-Executive/Manager, A large leading PSU Bank - India  | 01 20 2010 13:48:11 +0000
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It is pure science.

The planets, their movements, orbits and time taken are all decided. Their behaviour is what has been observed and written and taught in school. So if we are talking about the phenomenon, its science. But if we are talking about it vis-a-vis the effects on us as a human race on earth... its based on science and faith!!

Astrologers have attached certain happenings in our lives based on the movements of certain strong influential planets like moon, mercury, venus, mars, jupiter and saturn. These are planets that have strong influences on earth when they are in certain positions to it and with certain planets that have interjections during their orbital movement around the sun. These astrologers must have founf a common phenomenon that occurs when these planets are in a certain position related to each other and it has repeated with a specific time difference which led them to believe in the occurence. Hence the predictions were made. And when these predictions reached the common man, it became FAITH!!

But as you may have understood, this FAITH is based on the science of these planets and their movemnets!! Very interesting debate!!


By Makrand Bhave, Marketing & MICE, WIZCRAFT International  | 01 19 2010 06:59:13 +0000
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In my opinion its a 70% science and 30% faith.

Daily we pray god, why? in our gods  sun, moon and earth are also gods. If we believe god, then we should believe in faith.

But, our scientists are done lot of work, they discovered solar system, they proved that sun is one of the star, and earth is one of the planet and moon is the the subplanet of earth.

So Solar eclipse is a science or faith is depends on the individul, if believe in god, its faith, and if believe in science then its science.


By Chandramouli , Sr. Manager - QS & Contracts  | 01 19 2010 04:03:33 +0000
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Well Science is a proven matter. Faith is belief and and awaiting scientific proof. For example the world believe that God created Man and universe. I believe Man created god and universe Because God has born in man's mind. When the first scientist said earth is round or global he was executed by the then church. but later it is proven. Well most of the scientific proofs are research based on faiths and oral teaching by generations. Many thousand years before the distance between earth and other planets were scientifically calculated or proven, our saints were aware of it and orally taught the generations. Hence the science and faith are inter-linked and not parable. Well I believe all the planetary activities are influencing the Man and universe. The early findings of the non proven science is the faith of the man about the eclipse. Well the early Vasthu silpa recommends the kitchen should be at east of the building. We have now proved that the first rays of the sun falling on the earth can destroy the bacterias affecting the food stuff or and health. A faith generated from this theory could be the reason many people not eating when the eclipse going on or destroy the cooked food available at eclipse period.We can find justification for every faith for scientific proofs. So the Pure Proven science is invented from a faith. Hence let us find the clues from faith to find pure proven science.           


By George Varghese, Proprietor, Jecyees  | 01 19 2010 03:12:49 +0000
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The occurance of the eclipse is nothing but pure science since all the planets are moving in their designated orbits and geometry dictates their overlapping etc.

Now, if one believes in astrology, then each planet has a role to play in thier lives. Thus when a rare event occurs they tend to believe that this 'special' event will have an effect on them.

Speaking of 'Faith' reminds me of a short story - a tightrope walker performed the act between the 20th stories of two buildings. The audience applauded his act. When he asked them if they believed in him, all answered in the affirmative. When he asked for a volunteer to be on his shoulders when he again performed, there were none. Thats the difference in Faith. We follow without questions.    


By Ajay Chaudhari, Chief Executive Officer, Adroit Consultants  | 01 18 2010 16:13:21 +0000
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Just as "Saptrishis" can help us find our position any time and cannot change our position, the position of planets at any time 'may' indicate our destiny (if at all), but definitely they cannot influence that. Thus it is futile to try to "please" them.


By Dr. Kirpal Singh, Ex. Director/Principal, Free lance Author and Consultant  | 01 18 2010 14:14:07 +0000
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I agree with manish there is a power ruling this world.Today  science lets us explore this world practically & understand it in better way so that we can live in it by enjoying it rather than getting scared.This eclipse was a treat to watch someting phenomenal which we  might not be able to view again in lifetime.Faith is required to live in this world but when you start beliving things blindly it effects nobody else but you.


By Wajid.Pathan , Enterprenuer (Designer /Developer/Supplier), Self Employed  | 01 18 2010 14:03:55 +0000
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Though the mechanics of the eclipse are pure science, we must not forget the fact that natural phenomena still awaken primal instincts and fears, as well as superstitions, in many people.

More than science vs. faith, there is another element, psychology.


By Robert Moore Bernardos, Senior Finance, Operations & IT Executive - advisor to foreign investors  | 01 18 2010 13:05:20 +0000
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Happening of Solar Eclipse is a science as every object in space are in certain direction at certain space and move at a specific speed in which planets face such eclipse while

THE REASON FOR ECLIPSE IS FAITH Bcoz THE POWER AND FORCE WHICH DERIVES THIS NATURE IS CONTRLLOD BY GOD. SOMEONE IS RULLING THE UNIVERSE BY HIS IMMENSE POWER OTHERWISE HOWCOME WITHOUT ANYTHING - THE UNIVERSE MOVE - WHY?  THEIR IS NO END TO THIS QUESTION 

That's why i voted for FAITH and supported Science...


By Manish Gaurav, Chairman, B2B Logica Pvt. Ltd.  | 01 18 2010 12:57:36 +0000
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I fully support your views


By Dr. MUKESH RAGHAV, Associate Professor, S.P.Medical College  | 02 04 2010 13:02:25 +0000
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I strongly support this


By Onkar Datt Sharma, Manager (Technical), Retired  | 01 20 2010 14:56:52 +0000
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Its pure science and there is always an effect of the eclipse on human life. The astrology is is also a science. We have to take care against the evil effects of such happening. During an eclipse the movement of the planets are not not a routine exercise, therefore its results in some bad effects on the surroundings including on human beings. Due to this bad effect a majority of people start fearing and thus it becomes a faith and the opportunist pundits take advantage of it

What I have seen for last 50 years there had been things which were considered impossible and superstitious, the same things are the part of science. A few examples are wireless telephony, television viewing, mobile phone, GPRS systems, past life regression, ghost etc are now proved to be true. Not only this, some so called intellectuals say that the Ramayan time is an epic only and not the part of the facts. Today we find that there are signs of existence of these characters even in Sri Lanka, therefore the thing which is beyond our imagination are not necessarily superstitions. Perhaps in future these things can be proved scientifically, therefore we can not deny the bad effects of solar eclipse etc


By Onkar Datt Sharma, Manager (Technical), Retired  | 01 20 2010 14:30:07 +0000
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In India...though we call faith....if one were to really follow and ask some learned man...it would surprise many ..but it has some scientific observations...to it..

I do not think..all this is hearsay...we have a very good spiritual barometers...which have been embedded with pure scientific observations...We rarely try and follow that up properly...or try to find out...

 


By suchita Ambardekar, Director on Board, Vir Rubber Products Pvt Ltd, Vir auto enterprises Pvt Ltd  | 01 19 2010 04:17:35 +0000
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The points given by Purvi belongs to Faith not science.

Todays time this can be said that it is science but we are lisitning these points [mentioned by Purvi] since childhood and also seen the impact if pragnent lady does any work. This is FACT.


By R.K.MALHOTRA , Investment Advisor, Trainer and motivational speaker, WORKING FREELANCE  | 01 18 2010 13:26:19 +0000
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Science regarding universe & space is still in its nascent stage. We even have to discover many parts of our own mother earth.

How can one can be sure of calling all these age long sayings & traditions to be only faith, who know the ever advancing science tell us one day that there are some real harmful effects apart from the UV rays.

Moreover no one knows the Treta Yuga existed or not (thousands of year ago where we don't have any scientific evidence), but we believe in Lord Rama & all the teachings the epic provides us.

It may be a matter of faith, but science too has its limitations & yet to go far & hence no conclusion can be drawn as yet.


By ujjval jain, Retail, Retail  | 01 18 2010 12:59:56 +0000
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