@ Mr Abrahm, Regret that you are forgetting the very method that Father of nation used to get what is available. Much more important is "Does one loose their democratic rights immediately after election" Right to protest was very much available in defense of protestors present and this is the reason Supreme court found it requisite to intervene.
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Ravindra Sharma, Managing Consultant, CHEF-India
| 06 07 2011 08:38:27 +0000
Mr Rathin, What you are mentioning is at best a method used by someone to escape. Hope you are not trying to suggest a Satyagrahi is a Satyagrahi only if he keeps surrendering without even support of his own reasoning. All those who were present did not change into lady's attire so just because they were supporting Baba Randev their cause and reason of being present becomes wrong and punishable? The people present there were present for a cause and that is "Corruption and Black money" so they were all at fault is what everyone on RHS is trying to convey.
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Ravindra Sharma, Managing Consultant, CHEF-India
| 06 07 2011 08:30:12 +0000
hello Divya,Govt.did a grave mistake by making forceful eviction.legally they may be right in telling that permission is obtained for Yoga shibir and not for agitation but,people will always look the aggressiveness by authorities first rather than thinking legitimacy or other.
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jairaj shyam prasad, Production Manager, BOSCH Ltd
| 06 06 2011 13:14:48 +0000
We tell u that my neighbor is sick, and you start our checkup, we request you to treat him, for our social good, and you'd rather stop me from asking than work on the needful. makes no sense..
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Sujeet Vishwakarma, Managing Director, RCA Group
| 06 06 2011 12:50:02 +0000
Rather than sensationalizing the whole issue, let us get to the crux of the issue. Right Royal treatment slithering to forcible eviction! In a world's largest democratic country like ours, how do you accept any government trampling down your own fundamental right of our very very hard-earned freedom! Initially, Government thought this Baba could be lured and convinced and they played their polity. I'm not justifying he is right or wrong, and he teaches "Asanas" and not "Ashtama Siddhi Yoga" and he is a crowd-puller - a great advantage for political parties to play vote bank politics. Who made him "larger than life image"? Was there any need? Why the government or party was afraid of him? They did not want to see this as what they saw in Anna Hazare Movement, which would diminish their interest in the ensuing UP elections, as what had happened in TN. They are in the verge of losing out in AP. Now, the issue is getting "derailed" and they are "heaving a sigh of relief" evicting the peaceful protesters in the wee hours. Poor followers (many of them are illiterates) have not read the message of the cabinet minister "if we can reach out we can rein in as well"! Anna Hazare and his team were warning Ramdev from day one to make it APOLITICAL, but it made us now feel that every thing was pre-meditated and politically motivated. We are more concerned about the ISSUES and not the PERSONS concerned! We have every right to UPHOLD our DEMOCRATIC values and we should get united to see that no forces should allow this to get trampled! The highest Judiciary of this country, Supreme Court, therefore, had taken this up on "suo motu" basis! We only bank on this highest institution with the right mix of JUDGES under the Hon'ble Chief Justice of India who are non-partisan and playing a very protective role in guarding our DEMOCRACY! JAI HIND!
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S. Muralidharan, Executive Director, Knowledge Foundation & Campus Around the Corner
| 06 06 2011 12:14:32 +0000
Government is trying to hide their sins, all of us have seen on TV that the supporters were carrying baba on their shoulders and baba was announcing that he is ready to get arrested at the same time he was also requesting the supporters to stay calm. It was the sick mentality of the Delhi police and the government who SWITCHED OFF THE MICRPHONE so that Baba shouldnt address the public and they can defame him. cheers!
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Mohan Murari, Marketing Manager, Confidential
| 06 06 2011 11:19:10 +0000
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Who is Satya-grahi? & What is Satya-grah? There are so many reason which differentiate Satyagrahi & Baba Ramdev this time. I was also supporting Anna & Ramdev before the act. But that night Ramdev proved that he wants to become popular politician rather than Real Satya-grahi. A Satyagrahi never ask for violence to his supporters. Like Mahatma gandhi. They never allow their supporters to spread violence against any one & any reason. But Baba ji giving the lesson to their supporters that how to spread violence. In Democracy all we have rights such as protest etc. But There are some responsibilities too.. We can do our protest with Non-violating manner such as Anna. And more thing i want to share with you is, Corruption is every where we know about it. Not a single political party or politician in non-corrupt zone. I am destroying or wasting my vote to non-party candidate(usually independent) but it never happens that we elect Non-party Govt. According to Baba ji Cong/UPA is corrupt. But we all know that every body is corrupt. Otherwise during BJP/NDA govt.(5-6 years approx) no action taken on BLACK MONEY returning in India. & report showing Black money deposited in abroad is not acumulated within few months. It is the work of many financial years. At last i am saying that Be calm. No one in country who gives the way to "Satya & Ahinsa" because this time we are fighting with own. We are corrupt so we are electing those candidates. Otherwise after election please don't say that ohhhh again this time we have elected corrupt people as our Govt.
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Vipin Bhasin, Private Equity/Hedge Fund/VC-Manager, Indian Investment Co.
| 06 07 2011 17:35:11 +0000
Hi Ardhendu, In Indian democracy, Devils dance where angels fear to tread. It has become fashionable for every Tom, Dick and Harry who have got their freedom very cheap, to talk about democracy, freedom of expression, human rights etc. We have Babas, and many self appointed Civil society members who claim to be representing the billion and odd people in the country and act mad with least concern other than their personal glory.
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Abraham Paul, Senior Telecom Consultant, FCOMNET- Future Groups
| 06 06 2011 17:44:26 +0000
I am happy for once the Govt. had taken right steps in preventing a huge catastrophe that has been planned by the vested interests and implemented meticulously through a politically ambitious Baba. And it was fully right for the senior ministers to go and meet the Baba and try everything on the part of the govt. to stop the so called fast even if they knew very well beforehand that it is not going to work as the motive was something else. Bringing the Baba who teach mostly some ayogya yoga to the fore stage in the middle of Lokpal committee sitting is a plan meticulously thought and executed by the vested interests (who they are, are clear to everybody now) wih a double purpose to defeat making of Lokpal bill draft, the practicality and workability of it without major constitutional change is in doubt though, and to some cause unmanageable situation and by that to bring the govt. down. The behavior of some of the civil society members in the committee in publicly abusing the government side members of the committee in their press conference etc are fully reproachable if not irresponsible and childish. I wonder why Mr. Hegde, a former judge of his stature is incapable of visualising the mal-intentions of Baba and where this so called fast of his would have gone and ended had the govt. not acted the way it did. By this time there would have thousands in hospital due to hunger and fatigue and the movement would have become violent there and would have spread across other parts of the country and by now India would have faced a situation like we see in other regions of the world. With the fallout of internal and external false propaganda, our enemies and friends would have equally blamed India with human rights violations and so on even in the UN. I am also astonished to see that not a single media person is there to put through these things in right perspective to the common man. There were some good journalists in the past. Of late the media in the country have become most irresponsible. It is high time people with common sense boycott most of these channels that are interested only in sensitizing the news and not presenting it analytically to the public without taking sides. As far as Ramdev Baba is concerned, how come Babas are beyond the law of the land. If we are to be led by people like him God save this country. Country's future cannot be handed over in a golden platter to hooligans. I am really sympathetic about the political pauperism of leaders of BJP. Whom they together with the media are trying to fool? In fact they are prostituting the intelligence of the common men like me who is neutral and apolitical. I do not agree with the inefficient and incapable way UPA is handling the governance of many things in this country. There is systemic deficiency everywhere. I am myself struggling for past 10 years with a the biggest PSU bank (a branch of which is my pension paying authority) for a simple thing like settling discrepancies in my pension payments. Nothing happens for years in spite of the intervention of Banking Ombudsman. Such is our system. Corruption is embedded in the fabric of the society. There is no point in blaming the Prime Minister or leaders of any political party for that. It requires a major reform in the social fabric of the country that cannot happen overnight and these Babas are only making things more difficult by the negativity it creates in mass psyche.
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Abraham Paul, Senior Telecom Consultant, FCOMNET- Future Groups
| 06 06 2011 17:29:36 +0000
If he is a peaceful activist, whether right or wrong, he should have surrendered voluntarily & made the process smother. But what happened, I have seen pictures jumping from 3 meter high stage falling on women activist & went hide over among the ladies' crowd. Is it a stature of a leader who come to save people through Satyagraha.? Our people need to decipher correctly what is required for us & WORKING WELL WITH US.
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KALIYAMOORTHY , Oil & Gas Area Coordinator, Undisclosed
| 06 06 2011 14:13:29 +0000
Let me know if this government was in your hands how would you have tackled this unnecessary agitation where you are also working in the same direction of getting the black money? How can a school dropout understand the minute risks involved in the process Now a school dropout Ramdev is foolisly trying to get attention for his political will and everyone is blindly following him and have no ideas so that the government may get back the money. Try to understand that it is a huge amount and not a lollipop that you will ask and will be provided with. That is why I am saying and requesting everytime to grow up and see the things better.
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Ardhendu Pal, Upgrading Knowledge Base, Researching in Computer Software/Hardware
| 06 06 2011 11:42:54 +0000
How can an yogi be industrialist? Why has he not declared the Patanjali Yogpeeth a national property? By only Daan and medicines he cannot purchase what he have and cant have so much money so from where did it came from? Why must I respect a thug, a dropout, and a person with wrong posture? Where his every yoga posture is technically faulty why on earth must I respect him? Just because he is on the television screen doesn't makes him respectable as we can see Osama and Kasab too in the same screen. Why he is interested in everything else from Rakhi Sawant to politics except his main duty ? He has a political dream and wants to fulfill the same so just after Popularity of Anna he started his role playing cheaply. Just like a cheap reality show stunt he was weeping and vomiting false allegations to government like a life threat and so on just to get the public attention.
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Ardhendu Pal, Upgrading Knowledge Base, Researching in Computer Software/Hardware
| 06 06 2011 11:25:14 +0000
My questions directly to all those who are supporting this "Dhongi Baba" or the "Dramatic Dharna" by him :- 1) If the so called "Self made yog guru plus God is such a potential trainer then why he didn't used some real advanced techniques of Yoga like a "samadhi" or the "Jar Yog"? 2) If he is claiming it as a Satyagraha then why on earth he feared arrest? He must have happily accepted the arrest like M.K.Gandhi did? 3) If he is true man then why he took the ladies grown and was out in disguise? 4) If he has accepted the "Gayruwa Vastra" then why is he concerned what is happening to this world and whose fundamental rights as in Hindu religion the attire is worn by the people who has intendedly left all the "Earthly pleasures and rights" according to our religious texts like sastras ? 5) Even after declaring a Satyagrah in delhi how dare he book a place on account of "Yoga Shivir", isn't it a fraud for which he deserved this treatment? 6) Everybody is condemning the government's move against women and children then my point is that who invited them? and are they not grown up enough to understand the sensitivity of an area like this? The responsibility is not of government but the people are to be condemned for an act of utmost irresponsibility
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Ardhendu Pal, Upgrading Knowledge Base, Researching in Computer Software/Hardware
| 06 06 2011 11:24:00 +0000
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