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Created by : Er. Harnam Singh, Project Manager, CPWD  | 06 20 2009 12:37:04 +0000
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Load Bearing Construction Vs RCC frame construction
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I prefer Load bearing constrcution for low rise structure as it is economical.

Constrcution time is reduce due to ommission of Beams and columns

Requirement of shuttering is reduced.


By Er. Harnam Singh, Project Manager, CPWD  06 20 2009 12:37:04 +0000
 
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RCC frame constructuion can perform better in Earthquake prone areas.


By Vikas G. Chaudhari, Manager, Larsen & Toubro  06 20 2009 14:34:24 +0000
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Due to global warming load bearing structure is better option in presence because there is less design of R.C.C.
By Ramananda Chaudhary, ENGINER, CERA PVT LTD  | 05 12 2014 10:50:21 +0000
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The use of RCC framed structure is unnecessarily propagated by people with vested interests like Steel manufacturers,Cement manufacturers etc.History shows that LOAD BEARING buildings have stood the test of time and are still standing tall and strong even after several centuries .But on the on the other hand RCC structures have a life span of 30 to 100 years only.For low rise buildings it's always better to go with Load bearing construction.
By Vkumar , Team Leader-QA/QC, Oceaneering  | 09 15 2013 10:18:43 +0000
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Load Bearing walls are economical and safe if constructed as per Provision of IS4326 code for Earthquake ressistant Masonary Structures.
By Amarjit Singh, Construction-Heavy, Pearls  | 04 23 2012 08:43:17 +0000
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Load bearing structures are only economical for low raised buildings say up to two storied buildings.above that only R.C.C structures is preferred


By Madhusudanan.V , Senior site engineer,Derby design  | 12 24 2009 11:41:41 +0000
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The load bearing walls with stipulation of IS 4326 for earthquake buildings are successful even in earthquake conditions. So low rise structures should be constructed with masonry only. Even four storied structures can be constructed with this method. I have designed the building and it has stood all earthquake since 1995.


By Amarjit Singh, Construction-Heavy, Pearls  | 12 22 2009 14:22:55 +0000
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For low rise Buildings...i think Load Bearing Construction is better and economical.......


By Mandeep K. Bajwa, Architect, RMC (India) Infrastructure Ltd.  | 07 28 2009 12:17:44 +0000
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LOAD BEARING COSTRUCTION ARE NOT PREFERED FOR FLEXIBLITY THEY ARE ONLY FOR LOW RISE BUILDINGS AND FOR HIGH BEARING CAPACITY SOILS STRATA


By SB DIKSHIT, STATE QUALITY MONITOR, U.P.R.R.D.A  | 06 25 2009 12:10:27 +0000
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In Zone V RCC frame shall be preffred and or as suggested by Mr Mallay Pandravada traditional design adopted in Assam. Idea is theses are  lightly loaded structures. Reasons he has given is defficeicy of aggregate in Assam. I have constructed many two storied houses load bearing in Assam, Nagaland and Manipur  and higher ones in RCC frames. Only thing is Load bearing walls are to be suitably reinforced at corners and bands are to be provided at Plinth ,lintel and floor level. At floor level slab itself acts as a band. 


By Er. Harnam Singh, Project Manager, CPWD  | 06 24 2009 10:09:28 +0000
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So, in that case, out of Load bearing and RCC frame, which one shall be used for buildings in Zone V areas?


By Pragya Kothari, Construction-Heavy, DLF  | 06 24 2009 07:53:45 +0000
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I agree and vote Er. Harnam Singh in this topic. My opinion is " I would like to prefer LBC better than RCC, as economical and finish the project with less durations compare to the RCC structures.

But, LBC is not suitable for the Earth quake zones in INDIA.


By PUGHALENDHI .R., planning engineer , PS CONSTRUCTIONS  | 06 23 2009 17:24:39 +0000
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Dikshit Ji , Could you please elbarate it. The advantages of Loadbearing structures for Low raise Buildings.


By Srinivas S.Mantrala, PMP, Executive Engineer, A.P.S.Police Housing Corporation  | 06 23 2009 13:10:36 +0000
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Subject to depth provided as per load bearing capacicity of soil


By SB DIKSHIT, STATE QUALITY MONITOR, U.P.R.R.D.A  | 06 23 2009 12:19:45 +0000
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For a tropical country like India, Residential buildings, Educational institutions, Govt. offices etc should preferably be built with load bearing walls because of the inherent benefits. Load bearing walls provide good insulation from heat and keeps the inside cool.  In extreme winters, they provide warmth inside. They are not only ecofriendly but also save energy. In RCC frame structures, use of 6 or 8 inch hollow blocks does not provide sufficient insulation. However, this presupposes that good quality bricks will be used in construction.

In Assam, they use bamboo reinforced mud walls which are very safe in earthquake zones.

 


By M.L.Suryaprakash , Regional Director, National Productivity Council  | 06 23 2009 11:18:50 +0000
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load bearing structure is more economical as compared to r.c.c. for low rise structures i.e. upto g+1. the thicher wall also act as thermal insulation and reduce hest transmission. also the local materials such as stine and bricks are useful for construction which adds as advantage.


By rajeshwari jagtap, Project Architect and Project Co-ordinator, PRASHANT DESHMUKH AND ASSO  | 06 22 2009 10:09:59 +0000
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Pragya, For every construction, we have to go for RCC framed structure over load bearing is  not sounding properly. for earthquake prone areas and poor soil conditions, places where  good quality bricks are not available, RCC framed construction is preffred. If we go case by  case , where situations are favourable, we may even go for loadbearing construction also for low rise buildings provided it is  properly designed for it.

There are load bearing constructions standing since long time safely also. We may not close the options available.

  


By Srinivas S.Mantrala, PMP, Executive Engineer, A.P.S.Police Housing Corporation  | 06 22 2009 08:40:30 +0000
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Since Prgya's question was about the buildings in North eastern states I would like to elaborate. The constructions in NE states are differently constructed in eath quake prone areas .I served in Chabua Assam.

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are raised plinths using Masonry foundation and wooden frames are constructed (held to plinth by holding down bolts) with sloped roof above them.Half brick wall constructed upto window cill height and above panels are plastered with bamboo thatch as reinforcement.  

SECOND TYPE OF HOUSES UPTO G+2 CATEGORY

These are invaribly load bearing type with bricks as prime buiding material with RCC bands at Plinth,lintel and roof level.

Third TYPE OF HOUSES UPTO G+3 and above

RCC framed structures are adopted.

The problen for massive housing using RCC framed structure in Assam was Scarcely available stone aggreagate. Which was costly for the middle class people there.


By Mallaya Pandravada, GM-Project , Aditya Housing and Infrastructure Development Corporation  | 06 22 2009 08:28:02 +0000
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Well Pargya you have misunderstood my reccomendation. What i have said is for Zone -III and below. Area you are reffering North east India and part of Gujrat are in ZOne V as per NBC classification. and definetly buildings in these zones are required to be earthquake resistant with special detailing as per IS codes.


By Er. Harnam Singh, Project Manager, CPWD  | 06 22 2009 07:53:03 +0000
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For low rise building load bearing structure is suitable because we can use locally available material for slabs (Stone Slabs, brick roofs etc.) if cast RCC slab as say Er. Harnam Singh reduce construction time as well as cost.


By Dilip Singh Rathore, Construction-General Building, Deep Associates  | 06 21 2009 06:17:57 +0000
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I agree with his  view, for low rise structures up to (G+2). I read some where long back that in IIT Delhi, they constructed even 6 storied Load bearing structures for Staff Housing. (Pl.Correct me if I am wrong.) Where we can get good quality bricks / Blocks it is preferable to go for load bearing construcion keeping in view of the Future expansion needs in to consideration.


By Srinivas S.Mantrala, PMP, Executive Engineer, A.P.S.Police Housing Corporation  | 06 21 2009 03:23:06 +0000
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For low rise buildings, economy will be certainly a major factor to consider which may over ride structural factors like earth quake etc.. compared to framed structures, load bearing structure can be built at low expense in most of the cases (depends on soil condition and earth quake factors)


By Shaju George, Facilities/Construction Manager, IBS Software Services (P) Ltd  | 06 20 2009 17:09:20 +0000
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Earthquake proofing make it mandatory now
By Sachin Sabnis, As.Commercial Manager, Arabian Construction Co.  | 04 11 2013 11:48:01 +0000
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Frame structure solves that problem related to type of soil


By Linus Sunil, Regional Director, International Certification Services (Uganda)  | 04 05 2013 05:28:22 +0000
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Frame construction is a great option for those who consider future life of the building
By Linus Sunil, Regional Director, International Certification Services (Uganda)  | 04 05 2013 05:21:45 +0000
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more durable,strength and earth quake proof resistance
By Krishanpratap singh, Junior engineer, D.H.PATEL  | 04 22 2012 18:24:26 +0000
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I agree with Mr. Ghosh, however, partially. Let me explain why. I have been a Salt Lake resident for the past 30 years. We have load bearing construction for our home G+1. Because the house is maintained regularly it is still alright. I have seen most houses with severe cracks and even apartments which use RCC constructions (Ex: Purbachal Housing Complexes) in the Salt Lake City, are equally prone to cracks if not worse.

The problem related to cracks in buildings of Salt Lake city, I feel, is the high degree of salinity in the air due to extreme humidity and high iron content from the source of water supplied and old rusted water pipes which connects the residential units and not from the load bearing construction argument.


By Swati Chatterjee, Freelancer, Teaching/Education  | 04 19 2012 09:25:37 +0000
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hey all sirs please help me in my question my sir asked me why dont we use welding to tie stirrups to reinforcement instead of binding wire


By Faiz Khan, Pursuing Graduation student, abdul razzak kalsekar poly.  | 02 06 2012 16:57:18 +0000
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Keeping in the future requirements and the non availability of quality bricks and non-availability of quality sand (in Hyderabad and adjoining areas, sand extracted from mud is predominantly available), RCC frame construction is better I believe. Ofcourse my knowledge in this area is so limited considering the expertise comments on the other side.
By Srinivas suravajhala, Asst. Manager.  | 09 12 2011 11:48:41 +0000
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what should be the pillar width and depth of a 4 storeyed building, each floor consists of 2 flats in a RCC frame construction?
By Santosh , Project Manager, Dizital Dezires  | 09 12 2011 11:15:45 +0000
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I am not an expert but i feel that RCC will be cheaper since single brick walls can be used. Correct me if i am wrong?


By Hari Prasad, Software Developer, Credit Suisse Group  | 09 14 2010 07:28:20 +0000
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We all know the tedious construction construction process of RCC; however we should not forget BHUJ tragedy and learn from MISTAKES.Afterall "Jan bachi to LAKHO paaye".


By Sachin Sabnis, Assistant Commercial Manager, Arabian Construction Company  | 06 28 2009 13:37:03 +0000
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I dont know much about Civil engineering Calculations but i would prefer RCC frame construction. The reason being flexibilities for modifications at any point of time.


By P.Aftab Ahamed, Engineer, KPIT Cummins Infosystems Ltd  | 06 25 2009 05:15:11 +0000
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It all depends on the requirements, As Mr. singh said it is cost effective and I have seen many houses constructed 50 years back still in good condition. due to the thickness of the walls it takes the load of the ceiling at the same time it is insulated from heat and cold. But When it comes to strength and elasticity there is no comparison for RCC. With the help of RCC we can build high rise structures.   


By B.Mehernath , Marketing & Technical Head, Bondit Construction Chemicals Pvt. Ltd.  | 06 24 2009 13:46:29 +0000
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Generally RCC but not always. All the options available with a civil engineer, be it material, technique, design or construction technology are to be utilised based upon its "particular application". Prevalent practice, material availability, load to be carried, capacity of foundation etc etc etc may guide the selection.

Such questions shall be asked with particular case in mind to make them more useful. Generalisation serves no purpose.

...and yes Latur was not caused because of LBS but because of non engineered buildings. The practice there was to not to use even mortar. Even Uttarkashi was cause due to non-engineered bulildings and incapable foundations.


By Vivek Singh, Project Manager, L&T  | 06 24 2009 12:49:57 +0000
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only R.C.C Frame structure can resist earth presure.


By vishal p. chaskar, Civil Engineer  | 06 22 2009 15:41:04 +0000
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Well i must say that brick available in class 75 designation bricks cataogory definely have strength 75 kg/sqcm and more . STrength up to 100kg/sqcm have witnessed personally by me at many sites. These bricks are used for filler walls also.

 


By Er. Harnam Singh, Project Manager, CPWD  | 06 22 2009 07:55:42 +0000
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Mr. Singh, being in CPWD, I believe you are stationed in Delhi. Tell me, what percentage of bricks that you get in Delhi from the traditional Bhattis will pass that 75kg/ sq.cm strength barrier?


By Basab Ghosh, General Manager (Operations), Saipem India Project Ltd.  | 06 22 2009 07:47:47 +0000
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Mr. singh, no matter the calculations you gave for load bearing construction will make a fairly good and strong building. But how far do you think it can bear the earthquake current in freaquently earthquake areas like states of North east india and many places near Gujrat. How far do you think it will be as successful as an RCC frame constructed building? 


By Pragya Kothari, Construction-Heavy, DLF  | 06 22 2009 06:19:07 +0000
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As far as safety is concerened we should not make compromise and go for RCC frame Construction Provided 

Bearing capacity is low and area falls in EQ Zone 4 and above.

If bearing capacity is good 8-10 t/sqm we can economically and sucessafully use load bearing construction up to 4 storey construction with bricks having strength 75kg/cm2. Ductilty measres for EQ resistsnt construction can also be taken in case of load bearing construction by providing corner reinforcement and plinth and lintel bands.


By Er. Harnam Singh, Project Manager, CPWD  | 06 21 2009 16:53:01 +0000
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I am on this column simply because I think it is too simplistic to opine that load bearing walls should be the preferred building method for low rise buildings. Have we all forgotten Laatur? Haven't we learnt anything from that disaster?

The construction preference should always be based first on human safety then anything else. For earthquake prone areas and for areas with soft soil, framed construction is preferred, because it gives more ductility to the structure. In 1980s, I had proved to then CMDA that RCC strip foundations are more economical than traditional stepped brick foundations for load bearing walls on soft soils and perform much better against differential settlements and in arresting cracks in walls in places like Salt Lake in Kolkata where the SBC is of the order of 5T/sq.m. All the buildings (4 storeyed) we designed with strip footings, RCC framework and brick infill walls performed far better than those designed by others with load bearing walls and / or isolated column footings in terms of even settlements and avoidance of cracks in walls.


By Basab Ghosh, General Manager (Operations), Saipem India Project Ltd.  | 06 21 2009 09:31:01 +0000
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