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Created by : Yash Singh, Coresspondent, Star  | 02 08 2010 08:33:06 +0000
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Victorian police chief Simon Overland has advised Indian students in Australia to keep a low profile and "try to look as poor as you can" to avoid attacks, drawing strong condemnation from the community which called his statement "ridiculous".
     
Indian students could make themselves less of a target if they do not display their expensive gadgets, Oliver told an international students' safety forum on Saturday.
    
It was like "Don't display your iPods, don't display your valuable watch, don't display your valuable jewellery. Try to look as poor as you can," Overland was quoted as saying by 'The Age'. The Victorian Police Chief Commissioner said students could take some steps to protect themselves. But than giving protection to the people they are just telling people to avoid the situation by looking like poor. What sort of advice is that? Do you agree with this statement from Aussie top cop to prevent attacks? share your views people.

 
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Safety concerns are most important...even in India women do not wear valuable ornaments...if such advise works than no harm to apply it...what is required to have such show business...students should be focused on their studies in Australia...not to show up their worth...which is really not matter....

Local authorities are doing their job to stop such noise....its a self protection advise...my opinion


By Nitin M Aras, XYZ  02 08 2010 09:34:24 +0000
 
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Why should we act like poor people? This is disgraceful and I think its a little bit racial in some respect.  It's totally false and misleading comment on the behalf of Australian govt. Most Indian don't carry fancy gadgets (ipods, etc) compare to other asian student but they stills get beaten. Aussie's simply hate the way Indian wear and looks not for ipods. And I don't agree with the Australian cop suggesting Indians to look poor to avoid attacks, it shows how helpless they are as a country to avoid such attacks and this is giving us a clear indication that they are helpless and they can't to anything about it, I would like Indians who are there and who are planning to go there choose an alternative, there is no point in going to Australia where one's life is at stake.


By Yash Singh, Coresspondent, Star  02 08 2010 08:33:06 +0000
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Prima facie the Australian Police advisory may seem laughable, especially understood from an Indian context. Given the fact that Indian Police starts from a presumption that Poor commit more crime and the finger should point at them always to start with. Flaunting an I-Pod or an I-pad and a clipped accent when a cop stops you in India would definitely get you past a local Naka Bandhi since Indian Police have a mindset that affluence cant be a driver for crime. Whereas this may not be the mindset in Police world over. Each Police system profiles crime from its own specific cultural and social milieu. There were muggings and murders in U.S for a pair of Sneakers. The Teen hooligans in London or New York may not be after all your average Indian criminals. They just want your Blackberry or I-Pod. They may even perceive in recessionary times that an average Indian immigrant has a good job or business and is the ripe target to pick. As a lawyer who is acquainted with the way Policing works and the paradox that criminal motives may not be what they are initially thought to be and attributed, my humble opinion is policing is culture and social specific. The Australian advisory may not be necessarily absurd, given the fact that its not Indian Police who are protecting the respective expats.


By avaneendra mudigonda, Advocate,  | 02 09 2010 11:00:15 +0000
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Dear Yash,

Times have changed. But we should not forget how NRIs have survived in other countries in past and they have learnt this hard way. Whether it was US of A , UK or any other part of the world, similar circumstances were faced by the immigrants. We learnt to live and show the next generation a better way to accommodate in the new atmosphere. I remember at one time , you were not supposed to keep more than 10 dollars in your wallet so that if attacked by a drug addict you have enough money to give and come out safe . This way you saved your money and your life too. You were not supposed to visit the area which were hostile towards foreigners specially asians. Therefore this has happened since donkeys years and will keep happening.

We have to learn from our past experience in the other countries and implement to come out of the present situation in Australia. We should also do some introspection and find the truth why this has started happening in Australia. Every society has certain dos and donts. We have to train our students before going there. The agencies who have minted millions in this business are doing nothing about it. They even today do not train their clients to learn the finer aspects of the society where they are sending their clients. They must take steps immediately or this will ruin their  business soon.

We must have sufficient knowledge of the society where we are going to spend a good part of life ( ironically many are going for education as well as job opportunity without any knowledge of social norms in adopted country ). We must understand that even our neighbor has a different atmosphere in his home.

It is good that Australian Police is guiding the immigrants. They must have done it after evaluating the circumstances when these attacks have taken place. Everyone should accept these guidelines for a safer and happy life abroad, 


By Aalok Amist, Director , AB EMULTECH PVT. LTD.  | 02 09 2010 00:07:59 +0000
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Instead of picking on every word spoken by someone, one should have a pragmatic approach in issues like this. Every MNC give a briefing to their persons going abroad to take adequate measures to safeguard themselves. It is quite usual thing to advice them not to be flashy when moving around, not to carry or display too much money, not to wear ornaments and other costly personal items. Others also when they have gone there on their own, it is necessary to abide with such measures not to get mugged by some unlawly persons, the like of them we can find every where including in many of our own cities and towns.

One thing we should to know, all white skinned guys are not rich. A 1000 rupee note nowadays is not a big money for the ordinary person in the street in India, but even a 10 dollar bill is big money for many in the streets of New York or Meborne or London. While I was cashing a $1000 Travellers Cheque in a New York bank, the manager advised me to hide the money in my briefcase and not to carry it in the vallet and to keep small value notes for usual expenses.

Many guys around you may be looking for where his next meal come from. Most of them live on weekly government doll and many spend this in two days on drinks and hash. So much mugging happen there, the victims includes locals, especially the women. It is only natural they also find migrants an easier target. Making big hue and cry, only encourages the muggers who get a an extra kick out of it. I am not saying that we should not protest. At the same time, there is nothing wrong to be prgmatic and take care of ourselves, heeding to the advice from local authorities also, instead of finding fault about the way how the words are framed framed and said.


By Abraham Paul, Senior Telecom Consultant, FCOMNET- Future Groups  | 02 08 2010 15:43:09 +0000
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Prassan good point I agree with you. Why should we act as if we are poor. That is a disrespect for us. This shows the poor control of the Australian government and security system. It is the governments responsibilities to protect the Indians.  

 


By Esha Johar, Risk Analyst, Irevna  | 02 10 2010 10:49:12 +0000
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Can we give the same advice to the Australian Players coming to India for IPL and leave them to their fate. Racial discrimination in Australia is demonstrating failure of the govt. / concerned security agencies in Australia.


By Prassan Kumar Sharma, AVP, Nirmal Bang Securities  | 02 09 2010 21:43:22 +0000
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With all due respect, we couldn't prevent a 9 year Russian Girl from being raped in Goa. The Rapist who raped a British Woman in Rajasthan is out on Bail and the BBC cries foul.Given such instances reported all around ,can we construe ourselves as a  nation had failed to protect those who aren't from here


By avaneendra mudigonda, Advocate,  | 02 09 2010 17:45:21 +0000
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No it is the failure of that country definitely and it is the duty of that nation to protect residents of other countries from the attack.


By Reni sebastian, Assistant Engineer, State government of Keralam  | 02 09 2010 17:16:05 +0000
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I believe it to be another lame excuse given for not being able to or rather to support the people who are involved in racial discrimination. Safety measure definitely can be considered especially while outside India as many such incidents have been reported so far but it has more to do with racial discrimination rather than any robbery incident.


By Rajiv Shekhar Bhandari, Presales & Business Development (U.S.), Magic Software Pvt. Ltd.  | 02 09 2010 11:33:48 +0000
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VICTORIAN POLICE CHIEF SIMON OVERLAND STATEMENT TO LOOK POOR TO SAFE YOURSELF SHOWS THE AUSTRALIAN SECURITY DISABILITY TO SAFEGUARD THE INDIAN PEOPLE OVER THERE IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY. IF THE SECURITY AGENCIES GIVING THIS TYPE OF STATEMENTS THAN HOW, ONE CAN MAKE HIM FEEL SECURED IN AUSTRALIA. ITS TOTALLY PATHETIC STATEMENT FROM SECURITY CHIEF SIMON OVERLAND. HAFL OF ECONOMY OF AUSTRALIA IS DRIVE THROUGH THE MONEY THEY CHARGE FROM THE INDIAN STUDENTS TO STUDY IN THEIR COUNTRY, ITS THE TIME HAS COME TO GIVE THEM A STRONG SET BACK TO AVOID GOING TO AUSTRALIA AND MAKE THEM REALIZE THAT INDIANS ARE LIVING WITH DIGNITY WHEREVR THEY LIVE, POOR ARE THOSE WHONE IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY CANT SAVE THE FORIEGN STUDENTS AND MAKING RACIST ATTACK ON THEM.


By Honey Sood, STORE MANAGER, WOODLAND  | 02 09 2010 11:09:06 +0000
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I think it is just another lame excuse given to protect people involved in beating Indian students in Australia. Looking rich or poor doesn't give anybody right to beat a person. Safety measures definitely can be taken into consideration by avoiding expensive things or gadgets to avoid clashes but this has more to do with racial discrimination rather than money.


By Rajiv Shekhar Bhandari, Presales & Business Development (U.S.), Magic Software Pvt. Ltd.  | 02 09 2010 11:05:01 +0000
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Its lame and its pathetic!!


By Makrand Bhave, Marketing & MICE, WIZCRAFT International  | 02 09 2010 05:30:04 +0000
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Prompt him to dare suggest the same thing to local Australians.

Might as well say that to an extent desperation of Indians to make it rich and quick is as well responsible to bring it to such a state that the statement could emerge. Running abroad by itself is not a solution at the cost of vacating resources development at home.


By Ravindra Sharma, Managing Consultant, CHEF-India  | 02 08 2010 10:00:45 +0000
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