@ Anantha I am sorry for my reply, might have created problems for somebody, but my true intentions are to give a complete picture, which happens to be sad in nature. people just using pride as a pretext is just sad. yeah my earlier replies included words like "Stupid" "Ranting" "Low Level Discussions" "losing Party" against people for some cases had become bad natured. but my intentions are different in the cases of "Low Level Discussions" and "Losing Party". By "Low Level Discussions" i mean discussions with less priority talks, like common things of daily problems, i will be clear next time with elaborate discussions. And by "Losing Party" i just mean that the person in view is just being pessimistic. The other words are just used to show the true picture, which happened to be in an harmful nature to the true light of the discussions, for that i am truly sorry. I hope all of us will go towards a constructive and healthy discussion. Thanks for responding. :)
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Sri Krishna, B.Tech/B.E. student, Birla Institute Of Technology Science (BITS), Pilani
| 02 05 2011 07:58:24 +0000
Well said!
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Anantha Shayana. D, CTO/CIO, RAYSITI
| 02 05 2011 01:17:42 +0000
I agree with Neha. If someone discuss or criticize its helps the country to go in a right direction. At the same time when we are discussing about our country in a social network the whole world going to have a look at it so we should be careful about our words and we should maintain the dignity of our nation.
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Sridevi Ranganaathan, Assistant Professor at Madras University
| 02 05 2011 01:13:56 +0000
Discussion is the first step to Solution. Closing your eyes to the world won't close the world's eyes to you. Come out clear, SAY IT. Few will criticize, few will loathe, but trust me, Many will help.
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Neha Choudhry, Content Writer, Service Magic Info Jobs (for Atoot.com)
| 02 04 2011 06:24:09 +0000
yeh yeh go on boasting about that pride, and someday u will seeing a picture similar to an obsolete economy some 300-400 years ago. WHO IS NOT PROUD OF THEIR COUNTRY???? HUH??? Don't be stupid ranting all those things. Pride doesn't let people to get fed, doesn't have our money concerns go away. then what do u so mean by pride, which has got nothing to offer, except loneliness. We must accept others and begin a constructive approach to solve mutual problems, and at that time we have to cast away our prides and do the right thing.
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Sri Krishna, B.Tech/B.E. student, Birla Institute Of Technology Science (BITS), Pilani
| 02 04 2011 04:06:27 +0000
@ Sindhu You Are right on low level Discussions, which are a non-priority, but these days, a lot of scams and other bad things are happening, which are indirectly affecting our Nation by scaring off foreign investors and Potential high value Individuals (HVI's). Some discussions have to be made global, so that we can tackle situations in an efficient manner. Yeah keeping things to us is the best, if we have a perfect solution; unless we are thinking of face-saving schemes. And by globalization of the problem leads to immense help due to popular humanistic behavior by other countries now a days, thanks to various NGO's and Supporting Organisations.
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Sri Krishna, B.Tech/B.E. student, Birla Institute Of Technology Science (BITS), Pilani
| 02 02 2011 18:08:39 +0000
Blabbering on wrongs committed by certain class of society with the so-called "elite class" is not really going to make any difference. The only difference our comment would make if we disseminate this information to a common man through advocacy campaign. How do we do that? TOOSTEP should contact and support Civil Society (NGOs, apolitical trusts, foundations, etc.) by sharing the content to them to effectively portray the image our country is posited with for the consumption of common man is the only remedy. In India, hardly a few learned persons go to polling booth, and the majority of the polling happens from those who receive favours from the political groups at the time of election. Unless and until we stand by way of making this majority to say "NO" to such favours rendered by the political groups at the time of polling, this apathy will continue!
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S. Muralidharan, Executive Director, Knowledge Foundation & Campus Around the Corner
| 02 02 2011 15:30:01 +0000
I think I will agree with you partly sulagna.
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Rathin Deb, Advisor and retail consultant, currently as Branch Manager, Tower Infotech Ltd
| 02 02 2011 12:23:55 +0000
Nothing wrong in it. If we dont do it then some people, (Govt. officers and Politicos) will take things for granted and rape this country further. Better to change with times than remain old fashioned way which state that "Do Not talk about these things because it would hurt our reputition in the international arena". These politicos are hurting our Country more.
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G A Narayan, VP - Marketing, KE Housing P. Ltd.
| 02 02 2011 06:27:09 +0000
Better discuss..to ascertain whether we understood/misunderstood our country
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Suryanarayan Murthy, Free lancer
| 02 02 2011 06:24:58 +0000
I totally agree with Sulgna....coz, everybody knows whats going on in our country....its need not to hide anything...Everybody should have guts to accept it.
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mohasin sanade, Engineer-Sales & Marketing, Imperial Group of Companies
| 02 02 2011 05:07:01 +0000
Freedom of speech is our right. We have right to voice our view openly without fear. We can say what we feel about the country, government, social issues etc., this is our right guaranteed by our constitution. But if our criticism is constructive and serve the cause then it will good for us and the country at large.
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Shashi Kumar U, Manager accounts & commercial, Mazda Concrete Products Pvt Ltd
| 02 02 2011 04:54:07 +0000
i agree with Sulagna,there is no harm in constructive criticism.
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Mohammad Bakhsh, Consultant(Civil), Rail Vikas Nigam Limited
| 02 02 2011 04:05:32 +0000
As long as information explosion is there, political thought process changes, journalists look for business, individuals aspire to win prizes like BOOKERS PRIZE, NOBEL PRIZE etc. nations are intra and inter dependent, these kind of expressing personal opinion will continue and can not be stopped.
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KALIYAMOORTHY , Oil & Gas Area Coordinator, Undisclosed
| 02 01 2011 18:55:30 +0000
yes it is required for proper functioning of our country infact any other country
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Wajid.Pathan , Enterprenuer (Designer /Developer/Supplier), 3D TECH Training and Consultancy
| 02 01 2011 16:59:05 +0000
Yes it is the nature of human being to take care of personal things. Especially indians are more sensitive and emotional while taking care if it is personalized.
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Abdul Moyeen Khan, Chief Accountant, Obeikan Glass company
| 02 01 2011 16:52:46 +0000
Yes not to be false nationalist but understand without openly criticizing what is wrong with our country you are playing in hands of corrupt politicians .
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Vidhu Dar, CEO/MD/Director, Shiva's Retreat
| 02 01 2011 16:21:31 +0000
I feel, in a democratic country as India, we are courageous enough to express our concerns publicly. And I believe, this is the highest strength of any nation which is on the verge of being the super power!!!
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Sharvari A. Joshi, Chief of Bureau/Editor in Chief, freelance
| 02 01 2011 15:56:55 +0000
The very old adage is coming to my mind and still it is very green, "INSTEAD OF ASKING WHAT COUNTRY HAS DONE TO U , U MAY ASK YOURSELF WHAT YOU HAVE DONE FOR THE COUNTRY. THIS , PERHAPS WILL GIVE US A BETTER PICTURE AND A SOLUTION TOO
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sudhakar , BUSINESS CONSULTANT
| 02 01 2011 15:48:41 +0000
@ Sindhu Every Country is corrupt, Media is only the weapon which can spotlight on the wrong deeds, who do we blame??, birth right, but let it be within us and the system and the country. :::::::: All these statements are good ones from a losing party, of-course every country is corrupt, but due to that people are trying to change things by putting media into place, with proper proof anything can uncovered and yeah as we are living in a democratic country, you have the power to demolish a govt. who do we blame?? You r blaming yourself now, what can i expect from that? Also the so called the call for 'Birth Right' is obtained by people inspired by many other foriegn countries movement, don't you agree?? Ahhh and the finale, Leave us beeeee :X&%*^$&%**(&, this thing is like a statement to monopoly of internal affairs. if this were granted, then the outcomes of war of somalia, the genocides and other so-called un-justified activities would have been justified very nicely, "LEAVE US ALONE, WE WANT TO KEEP THINGS IN OUR WAY", and yeah by that many would simply perish and then you will be the first to ask them to open their affairs to the world.
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Sri Krishna, B.Tech/B.E. student, Birla Institute Of Technology Science (BITS), Pilani
| 02 01 2011 14:11:37 +0000
Criticism is always healthy. One who cannot take criticism can never grow. Same is true for a nation.
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Rajeev Sharma, Strategic Analyst, Columnist, Publishing
| 02 01 2011 05:32:09 +0000
Its is good To discuss about any nation. It will create awareness to the other nation people, There will be cultural change, go on all good things if we think on the positive way. Same way we have negative part too. This negative part help to improve the nation. People point out the loopholes in the system they discuss, share and they keep quiet.
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Kevin Morrison Dmello, MBA Marketing
| 02 01 2011 01:16:12 +0000
Hi Anantha. What a lovely thought and also a well articulated debate item! In my humble opinion one should discuss, discuss...and when all else fails...discuss some more. National pride aside, the only REAL path to finding solutions is through CONSRUCTIVE (even heated) debate and mass platforms like these allow everyone an opportunty to have their say. Be it on National, regional or even trivial issues, communication is an absolutely an absolute MUST in airing thoughts, sharing ideas and trying to understand each other and our many shortcomings.
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Vincent Churchill, Director on Board, Middle Eastern Trade Ltd.
| 01 31 2011 18:50:05 +0000
Country is nothing but people. whatever they do, they plan to do, they achieved till date will define its nature. And discussing the problems with other people will obviously lead to one of the two outcomes : Positive feedback or Exploitation. So we as people are always afraid to show our weaknesses, indeed every person is afraid of showing his weaknesses. but by embracing the bad and abandoning good is a cowards way. Thats y am always On for Open Discussions like here :P
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Sri Krishna, B.Tech/B.E. student, Birla Institute Of Technology Science (BITS), Pilani
| 01 31 2011 18:37:00 +0000
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Sorry, had to respond. :( @Krishna, I am young- you are young and we have our blood boiling when someone doesn't agree about our views and opinion. But shouldn't we be careful about what words we use and what jargon we use in a social networking site like toostep? Let me share with you that I have seen some people in this site who simply pass time by talking about useless or irrelevant stuff! But I agree from the core of my heart that there are some of them who are more intelligent, intellectual, innovative, truthful, humble, respectful, patriotic in the truest sense which I or you can possibly think of! Using words like "stupid" or "ranting" or "low level discussions" or "losing party" against people who discuss/ debate/ comment here in this site is very "unprofessional" and "offensive". Do you think this kind of uncontrolled behavior will prove "constructive"? Please take time to refer any of the opposition offered by: S. Muralidharan, Rathin Deb, G A Narayan, Mohasin sanade, Shashi Kumar U, Mohammad Bakhsh, KALIYAMOORTHY, Abdul Moyeen Khan, Vidhu Dar, Sharvari A. Joshi, sudhakar, Kevin Morrison Dmello, Vincent Churchill //SHRIKANT MANOHAR DANKE, sindhu s m, RAMESH KANDADAI, NATTERAJA R. ARIKRISHNAN, karthikrathnam Why haven't they been "ranting" about their opposition? Our views are ours to make! Yes we need to debate freely, but passing harsh open comments will kill the very purpose of the debate itself! This is what I was talking about when I asked this question! Are we being constructive? Or are we trying to make our point just because we thought we are right? "Freedom of expression" and "Freedom of Speech" is our birth right. This doesn't mean that it comes with "Freedom of demeaning others' rights!" In the process of Not trying to preach anything, but don't you think that youths have more responsibility of being patient and thoughtful towards their fellow beings and thus, their country? I am an animator, film director,ad creator, web designer, branding solution provider, market/ internet researcher. And as per my experience of a decade, I have only learnt that there are people far more intelligent/ well-informed/ creative than what we think we are!
"Give people the time they need to express themselves clearly. The rhythms of thought vary, but sincere self-expression requires careful, and sometimes prolonged, deliberation." From Swami Kriyananda’s new book - Living Wisely, Living Well
Hope you understand :)
Passionate thoughts there in your debate by the way! Your opinions are always welcome- After all, they heat up the debate/ idea/ insight!! Happy debating!
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Anantha Shayana. D, CTO/CIO, RAYSITI
| 02 04 2011 21:02:21 +0000
I love my country & it doesn't matters - how it is? What it did for me? What prospect i have in this country? etc........ Proud to be, " I " Indian.
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SHRIKANT MANOHAR DANKE, Project Manager, Phadnis Infrastructur Ltd
| 02 03 2011 12:23:51 +0000
Deeply humbled by the participation of such intellectuals for the debate! Each one of us on both sides has been "constructive" in their views about their country, thus drawing a thin line between “False National Pride” and “ Corrupt/ Unwanted/ Provocative/ Targeted Publicity of internal Issues!”
Now to the point:
May be off the topic a bit; but look at the image below and share your thoughts. Is media being constructive about what they are showing? 
Is the majority of the population "constructive" in what they speak and "show" about a country? Or is most of what the common man thinks is "Dictated" by Media? Open Debate Again!
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Anantha Shayana. D, CTO/CIO, RAYSITI
| 02 02 2011 21:08:06 +0000
"All these statements are good ones from a losing party" c'mmn krishna says that the bad things about our nation shld be published globally huh??? just grow up and solve ur problems by urself.why depend on others??? ya through media , through ppl we should solve it not by publishing it. till what extent we sit and blame our country.... when all wrong things are taken birth from individual....
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Sindhu S Manja, visiting faculty, St george college
| 02 02 2011 14:58:30 +0000
Certain amount of transparency is required otherwise accountability cannot be sustained. That said, it is also not good to wash ALL dirty laundry in the public domain. That creates de-motivation and damages credibility. A classic example is the talk about black money sitting in foreign banks. I would assume it is more important to take the much-hyped-about list and track each and every amount quietly and repatriate it back to the country than it is to embarass the owners in public. The fact that they cannot get their hands on the money itself should be a salutary lesson. We need to recognize constructive action as opposed to revenge.
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RAMESH KANDADAI, Principal Consultant, ARM Consultants
| 02 02 2011 02:59:30 +0000
I support this side, whatever the problems we have ourselves, it is our country. Despite all, we have unity among diversity.We should aim to achieve our goals. Thanks for the referral Mr.Sulagna.
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NATTERAJA R. ARIKRISHNAN, GM-Projects, Bentec Electricals & Electronics Pvt. Ltd
| 02 01 2011 17:12:29 +0000
any way other country will come to know about any issues happening in any where in the world thanks to the great boom in media today, as news channel's wont leave it,but people of the country should not do that, if you have guts stand up against the government and change it, but making comments about our home and our nation in front of outsiders is never going to give you any thing. people make the nation, there is noting called only nations pride,as we say there can't be home without loving family, otherwise it is just a building, same like there can't be nation without it's people and cultures, so we have to take care about our country, if issues are there solve it within the country borders,
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karthikrathnam , Center Manager , fiitjee ltd
| 02 01 2011 13:53:11 +0000
even my answer is NO coz..... whatever it is it is abt our country . being indian we ahould be proud to be an indian ..... why criticize it globally.... but i do believe that criticism is healthy......which country is not corrupt???..... in which country there is no loop holes in their system ?? so they do publicize it like our media??? but one thing should be kept in mind that media is only the weapon which can spotlight on the wrong deeds.. so we can not blame them also...... so whom do we blame ??? is it the common ppl who are publicizing it??? or is i the word 'I" so instead of pointing out fingers to others first lets start as an individual to love our country and yes we should fight for everything its our birth right...... but let it be within us and the system and the country .......
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Sindhu S Manja, visiting faculty, St george college
| 02 01 2011 13:34:51 +0000
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