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Created by : Kanikaa Dutta, Marketing, Hindustan Unilever  | 06 19 2009 20:17:16 +0000
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While the entire global village was down with the recession "flu", the pharma/ healthcare indusrty were raking in profits. The shadows of wage cuts and pink slips loomed everywhere, while the pharma/ healthcare fraternity basked in sunlight.  Is the pharma and healthcare totally recession proof or its just a matter of time before their sales team start to feel the ripple effect....

 
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I for one completely agree with Mr Mohan Rao.  Pharma can never be recession hit. Also the Industries related to Pharma are immune too...Healthcare, hospitals, Diagnostic labs...none of these will have empty corridors or given pink slips by the dozen as witnessed in the other industries. I disagree with Ms Deepa or Ms Shilpa when they say that Pharma is not recession proof...well how so? How can recession determine a person's health or his need for medication. If a person suffers from high BP, he will need his medication come what may, recession or not.  He will not forgo it just because of cost cutting,  his salary got slashed or worst of all if he's lost his job.  He may cut out on the other frills but most certainly not medication!


By Manisha Chakravarty, Freelancer, Freelancer  06 23 2009 17:50:52 +0000
 
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No not really because if surveying the market all over the world then only indian and china market will not affected till people not awareness about healthcare and pharmaceutical .and in other countries like united states and UNITED KINGDOM thier recession is still their.few points descirbe healthcare and pharma as recession proof industry.

1.Manufacturing of medicines and their foreign trade.

2.Higher expertise and lower income labour available in india and china .

3.Reverse engineering specially availbale woth india.apart from this other countries affected because they are well developed in Information technology as well as other than healthcare segment.But thses sectors are the only which is requirement of every indiviadual as compared to other sectors.


By alok jain, Marketing and Distribution.  06 25 2009 18:28:19 +0000
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I support this point. Pharmaceutical Industries can never be recession hit. Markets may be down or people may continue to loose jobs, but everybody has to take care of their health which means they have to take medicines.There is no other way out. Not only this any industry related to healthcare, like hospital is never effected by marketic conditions. This is the reason Pharma industries are completely recession proof.............


By Bindu Narayan, Product Development Manager, Care Biomedicals  | 07 10 2009 09:37:08 +0000
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Alok...Dude you are on the wrong side of the argument.  Going by what you have penned down, you've supported our side of the argument.  All the industries mentioned in your argument as recession proof, are core pharma/biotech/life science and that is what our side of the janta has been harping around...good to see more people supporting our perspective...Pharma companies ki Jai!


By Manisha Chakravarty, Freelancer, Freelancer  | 06 26 2009 11:51:55 +0000
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The pharmaceutical and health-care industry have historically been relatively immune to economic turndowns, because illness doesn't take a vacation. Yet, with the ongoing recession, financial support will be reduced. Therefore, like in other industries, it is expected that the most affected by the reduced availability in funding will be the early stage biotech and pharmaceutical companies who need funding. But is there more to come?


By sumita singh, Business Development Manager, Spatik Consultants  | 06 20 2009 10:09:19 +0000
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vanity,aging,wear and tear will always keep Health and Pharma recession proof.


By Mohan , Director, Spatik Consultants P.Ltd  | 06 20 2009 07:30:02 +0000
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Yes, I absolutely support the fact that Pharma and Healthcare are both sound recession proof industries.  No matter what the shape of any economy be, people are going to take ill, they will need doctors and more importantly medicines to get them back on their toes. So definately this is one industry one can count on whenever recession strikes.


By Kanikaa Dutta, Marketing, Hindustan Unilever  | 06 19 2009 20:17:16 +0000
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yes indeed pharma industry also suffers frm the economic slow down or recession in contry like ours as we indian still take health care expenditure as a economic burden in our  domestic budget. we only go to doctors when we have extra money in our pockets barring real emergencies.otherwise we have tandency to delay our routine checkups,and medications.


By Hemant Pandhare, Territory Manager, Wockhardt ltd  | 11 28 2009 15:52:22 +0000
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In India, our industry being at a phase of development where DPCO structures that stangled the industry, new investments in R&D, opening up of US to our   products, NDAs (which China is not willing to accept for generics being manufactured or duplicated shameless), has opened a huge opportunity window for Indian firms.

I remember simple anti-biotics selling for 25-40 Rs. in India - costing around 275 - 300 Rs. in neighboring Pakistan a decade back. Of course around that time, the foreign company used to hold 80% stocks and only 20% was tradeable  for which there used to be heavy demand, leading to P/Es being around 45-50 range multiples while the BSEindex would be range bound between 9 to max 20.

Indian pharma is working around certain niches and around products that are out of their patent timeframe windows. The OTC and food supplement industry is yet to open up, with associated NLM chains with trained educated sales force. Opportunity is big, it is huge and many companies like AMWAY, other similar Singapore / Malaysia based companies, are test marketing feeling the markets. Most of them do feel tremendously optimistic and are working to build a core size.

Give it a cuple of years more but for those who are moving in now,  profits will be enormous ...


By Alexander Lewis, Marketing Manager, self  | 07 15 2009 17:53:02 +0000
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Pharma/ healthcare are not totally recession proof. Look at what has happened to the more specialistic aspect of pharma...One reads frequently that most hospitals dealing with superspecialities have very few patients.  People are visiting generalists to save big bucks.  Functions like cosmetic surgeries, cosmetic dentistry etc has been very badly hit.  Also cheaper equivalents of expensive drugs is on the rise.  So yes recession is taking some toll in the pharma fiels too.  As Deepa mentioned and I agree that Pharma fared less badly compared to the rest.


By Ashish Chowdhary, Sales Promotion Manager, An advertising and media firm  | 06 30 2009 01:13:15 +0000
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I dont agree with the fact that Pharma is truely recession proof.I feel we are just talking b'coz IT is hit and not the Pharma vertical.


By Shilpa Jain, HR Executive, Spatik Consultant  | 06 20 2009 10:11:26 +0000
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I feel the recession proof for Heath care and Pharma is more comparitive.  Verticals like IT , Banking, Finance were worst affected during the recession period. So in comparision , the market felt pharma is doing well.  

To be more precise, Pharma fared less badly than anyone else.


By Deepa Bhupendra, Sales and Business development, A IT Distribution company  | 06 20 2009 08:42:59 +0000
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