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Created by : Dayanand Deshpande, Senior Consultant, Ernst & Young  | 12 24 2008 19:54:43 +0000
Industry : Management & Strategy ConsultingFunctional Area : India(Markets)
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Should sales people be given pricing authority?
 
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I have background from Marketing and sales. And we have found that the best system workable depends on size of the company:

1. For large size company with many outlets normally there is a Pricing committee which fixes the prices and sales people are given certain discount bands depending on qty. / no. of a particular product to be sold.

2. In a smaller size company with limited no. of outlets Sales people have more authority to negotiate the price .

Bottom line the people who are expected to do the Collections for you and targets have been fixed for them , they should definitely have some power to negotiate the price , because they are in touch with Customers , consumers and sales price of your product in a competitive market is not dependent on your cost of production but at the Market price of your product and your sales people are best judge of market price of your products.



By gurminder dhir, Associate Vice President ( Marketing), ISMT Ltd.  03 28 2009 07:05:51 +0000
 
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I dont think sales people should have the authority to decide prices as they are mostly ignorant about input and marketing costs.I also agree that they are unable to calculate ROI...the pricing startegy should be with the marketing team with requiste inputs given by the sales team
By Sanjib Chakraborty, Branch Manager/Regional Manager, BIRLA TYRES  12 26 2008 06:13:07 +0000
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it depends from sales persons skills and designation.every sales person cannot be given the liberty to decide on price as he/she may not know the costs involved and tojudge the customer's paying capacity/negotiation tool.decision like these needs to be with persons who have the experience to understand customers genuine decision making process and then call the shots.


By sanjay waghela, Branch Manager/Regional Manager, MeritTrac Services pvt.ltd  | 11 13 2009 06:32:21 +0000
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If sales person is restrained from giving pricing decisions, he is literally restricted in doing his job. Negotiation is one major aspect which a sales person has to master, no doubt. In the present scenario where we have more demanding customers, a sales person’s liberty in pricing aspect cannot be questioned. Customers’ prefer single point of contact and the relationship continues even after the product is delivered. This is what we call personalization which helps the Organization to enhance customer loyalty.


By Resmi Maxim, GENERAL MANAGER - OPERATIONS, SI PROPERTY (KERALA) PVT.LTD.,  | 08 11 2009 10:20:28 +0000
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Agreed but with the condition that MRP should be displayed and then bargaining will give good results.


By SB DIKSHIT, STATE QUALITY MONITOR, U.P.R.R.D.A  | 08 05 2009 07:57:40 +0000
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I completely agree.. of course, sales people should be given the liberty to negotiate. Thats his job.. I will personally not like to talk to a sales person who doesnt know about the pricing and discount etc. It will be such uninteresting job for sales guy to go and just do a survey of the requirement of the client and wait for the marketing team to finally get deal cracked. Not acceptable!


By Supriya Patade, Executive Assistant, Rare Hospitality & Services Pvt. Ltd.  | 08 05 2009 06:28:38 +0000
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Mr.Mohan i agree to your point.If the compnay gives pricing authority to their sales representative then it will definitely help that sales guy to talk to the customer more confidently because he knows that if the customer likes the product then he has the backing of his organisation to do the negotiation for price on their behalf.Moreover in this way the customer will also need not waste his time because if he has to negotiate about the price with another person then it will only consume his time which he may not like and gets pissed off to buy the product.But companies should inform their salesperson about a standard price below which he can't sell the product.In this way the purpose of the company as well as the customer will be served.

What do you guys think?


By Ramdas Pawar, Sales/BD Manager, Flex  | 04 10 2009 07:15:46 +0000
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Sales person can handle pricing matter provided they have adequate knowledge about the product which he is marketing. A sales person is he who actually brings the customer, so he should also have the basic right to talk and fix the price amount with client. But if client is not satisfied with the term then he should also take the client to someone more appropriate and technical to talk about the matter so that he can convince him by showing technical reasons rather than turning off the client.
SALES PERSON CAN BE THE FIRST PERSON TO TALK ABOUT THE PRICE BUT NOT THE LAST.


By Diptanjan Mukherjee, Team Leader -(Technical), Navayuga Infotech  | 04 07 2009 17:18:13 +0000
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This is with respect to a B2B sales situation.The sale is made only if the buyer has confidence in the sales person.Confidence that he is honest,knows his offering and above all has the authority and backing of his organisation to negotiate price,customisation,SLAs etc. In such a case if he is not given the liberty to negotiate price it doesn't reflect well on the sales guy as well as the organisation he represents.Why would I as a buyer talk to a person who has no authority.I would either look to talk to his bosses or to competition who might trust their sales people.Controlled conditioning and training are part of the organisation's imperatives to equip sales persons to face customers.

Mohan Rao


By Mohan , Director, Spatik Consultants P.Ltd  | 03 27 2009 13:03:03 +0000
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Sales people provide the first hand information about the consumer behaviour and buying process.They are very much aware about the customer's perception about various brands and products and also the reference prices against which the customers make comparion. Sale people are present the moment the sale takes place and can help in finalization of the deal, provided they are given some degree of freedom in pricing decisions. Its not correct that Sales person cannot calculate ROI, its mostly because they are not provided with the complete date and proper inputs that the markeing team has access to. Therefore pricing decision should be given to an extend to Sales people to help in increasing decisiveness during negotiations, accountability for profit generated and ownership of the sales, thereby increasing the confidence of the sales people and helping them in achievement of their targets.
By Jaydev Satpathy, Sales/BD Manager, Hindustan Petroleum Corporation Limited.  | 01 29 2009 12:15:07 +0000
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Sales people provide the first hand information about the consumer behaviour and buying process.They are very much aware about the customer's perception about various brands and products and also the reference prices against which the customers make comparion. Sale people are present the moment the sale takes place and can help in finalization of the deal, provided they are given some degree of freedom in pricing decisions. Its not correct that Sales person cannot calculate ROI, its mostly because they are not provided with the complete date and proper inputs that the markeing team has access to. Therefore pricing decision should be given to an extend to Sales people to help in increasing decisiveness during negotiations, accountability for profit generated and ownership of the sales, thereby increasing the confidence of the sales people and helping them in achievement of their targets.
By Jaydev Satpathy, Sales/BD Manager, Hindustan Petroleum Corporation Limited.  | 01 29 2009 12:14:41 +0000
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This is a highly subjective question and will depend upon several factors - the nature of your business, the kind of clients you serve, importantly, the type of people you employ.

Many Electronic retail stores for example have incentives / commissions fixed for each product. When these sales people discount the price, they are effectively discounting their own commissions. This is an excellent way of giving partial autonomy to sales people.

On the other hand, sales people negotiating complex and long drawn deals are often at a disadvantage in taking a price decision. Their emotional involvement will often cloud their judgement in taking a correct call on price and price structure.

The best model probably is supervised price autonomy, where the sales people have freedom to decide price, but in control conditions (like the commission example above at it's simplest form).

 


By Vishwajeet Rajwaday, Marketing Manager - EWD, Wipro  | 01 22 2009 19:25:54 +0000
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I think they know the market and have a broader view of what people are ready to pay for a particular kind and brand of a product.

By Dayanand Deshpande, Senior Consultant, Ernst & Young  | 12 24 2008 19:54:43 +0000
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Absolutely not. Most of the companies have sales force in the front, which are not fit to be in sales at all. They understand only one thing that they have close a deal at any cost and in this process, they make lot of false commitment or hide informations which could have changed the consumer's opinion. With pricing in their hand, they will make company's balance sheet look completely red.    


By Mukul Bhartiya, Head-Sales & Marketing(Organic Food Business), Arvind Ltd.  | 11 15 2009 11:43:51 +0000
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Pricing plays an important role in an organization financial and is a tool derived with various parameters kept in mind. In line with competition, quality of the product, market adaptability and variuous factors which are taken into consideration be a team of professionals and then fixed as a basic price. It also plays an important role for the uniformity reach of the customer support like wise in developed countires and under development companies.

Sales team is highly competent to make their product move let what ever may be the price so the decision of pricing is purely on hands of management & team which also included the feedback of Sales team reflecting their role in positioning the products in the most competitive platform.

Industrial product, Service product, Hospitality and many more countless products and servces has a core team to decide the price which make the success story of any products. So it has tobe a part of management core team or else if the company is so small also then also the pricing is from the Owner's perception or stake holders perception as he is the one who has to survive the company and make every one live up to the expectation in line with consumer satisfaction and many more variants.

Sales force can be given a bouquet of value added services apart from the basic price list to enhance the productivity and reach to the consumer based on the segment of the customers which invariably help in company performance as well as the complete group servicing for the organization.

 

 

 


By Chandan Singh, Marketing Manager, Emirates Telecommunications Corp  | 10 22 2009 11:14:20 +0000
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Everyone in the organisation needs support to deliver on his/her target. For sales team, they can be given some empowerment to decide on discount within a limit so that they can finalise the deals quicker. However if this limit is not sufficient for them to deliver, they can ask for marketing support in terms of promotions etc... But they can not be given complete authority to decide the price, which in some cases may have a negative ROI...


By jp swain, ENOC, Vodafone  | 08 16 2009 19:34:28 +0000
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A company spends lot of money in production. A price of a product contains all cost, labour cost, profit, time cost, tax, everything. A salesman is unaware of that. Still he is been given a margin of negotiation. Not beyond that. So, I believe its better that cost decision should be in the hands of company people only.


By Yash Singh, Coresspondent, Star  | 08 11 2009 15:03:11 +0000
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A good sales guy can sell even a reynolds pen for 500rs. It just depends on how enthusiastic he is about his product. Besides, price is a small part of the information needed to make an intelligent buying decision. Enthusiasm sells. Enthusiasm is contagious. Enthusiastic salespeople radiate confidence and trust!


By JAISIMHA DAS, null  | 08 02 2009 21:22:46 +0000
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Pricing is an important criteria for firms revenue. It should be done taking into account a lot of factors like consumer budget line, consumer willingness to pay and the demand for the product. In a oligopoly market its difficult acoount for what i have mentioned. The reason behind is market is flooded with competitors and sales people face cut-throat competetion and therefore the sales people resort to excuses that price was not flexible to the competitors.

But to change price is the easiest one, becoz it takes no time to change. But changing or rather reducing price affects the profitability of a firm, which leaves no room for further price increase.


By Alok Routray, PGPM 2010 Batch  | 07 26 2009 13:23:25 +0000
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Its very simple. Sales people's realm of activities are making more sales, monitor distribution, give market feedback and collecting money on time. Therefore pricing decision should be the prerogative of marketing department considering all factors and goal of the company. Period.

 

Arun Chattopadhyay

Head - Upcountry Marketing, Jindal Worldwide Ltd., Ahmedabad

http://indian-textile-industry-blog.com


By Arun Chattopadhyay, Head/VP/GM-Marketing, Jindal Textiles Limited  | 06 01 2009 06:48:18 +0000
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The issue about who should control sales should be clear to everyone. The department of Sales is there to  sell. What to sell, how to sell, for how much to sell etc. shall be their decisons.  In the rule book of every good company, it is the consolidate effort of different departments that culminate in Sales. There are clear procedures, starting from Market study, Technology readiness, Competitor positions, Mode and level of pricing, Business strategy etc.,  to be taken into consideration for Sales decisions. In fact in many companies, the Sales persons only carry / handover to the customer, the fine prints prepared by the Marketing department with the help of the technical and other wings.  

Problem seen of late is that Sales persons, often do not follow the rule books, tend to put the cart before the horse and act independently with their half knowledge of the product,  in overselling it, without following the right procedures in their urge to maximize sales target and get credits for that.  

Due to this tendency one may notice that transparency is missing in many of the Supplier - buyer deals. The onus of execution of contract then pushed to others Most of the sales persons escape by then, as the trend is to make some quick sales volume by hook or crook in an year or two in the company, and move to another company, show casing it.

A typical example is the Sales push of  3 G sales in telecom Industry in 2000-2002 era. High speed data on Wireless Technology on GPRS / 2.5 G EDGE were not fully ready, user terminals were yet to be developed, the investment cost was too high for anyone to have a viable business case at that point of time. 

Availability of high bandwidth anywhere, anytime were only in sales talks, because for anything around 2Mbps and beyond, the area that can be covered by a cell using WCDMA technology,  was only about 10 meters radius and the speed of movement of user terminal limited to 10 meters per second, no body knew how hundreds and thousands of cells needed to cover large user areas and roads. Even now the situation is not much different manyexcept that  WiMax and WiFi would be able to boost HSPDA, of course, with attendant problems yet to be resolved regarding security issues etc.  

The technocrats who were knowledgeable and bold enough to point out these to the company at that time were shown the door. Later all those 2.5 G /3G buyers who fell for peppy sales talk, had to bite dirt and entire industry had to suffer.


By Abraham Paul, Senior Telecom Consultant, FCOMNET- Future Groups  | 05 04 2009 17:03:10 +0000
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Salespeople are not decision-making persons. Pricing is to be decided by the marketing department.


By Ahmed Sultan, ITC, Airline Consultant  | 05 04 2009 15:34:58 +0000
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Am sorry gentlemen, The sales person should have only the selling price and MRP and a last figure at what price (maximum discount he can offer) he can sell.There is no need for a sales person unless the top management and decision making authority to decide the selling price of the product, One can ask the sales person at what best price he can sell the product, that's all. If the decision  making power is given to the sales person one thing is sure the company will soon run in to losses.


By B.Mehernath , Marketing & Technical Head, Bondit Construction Chemicals Pvt. Ltd.  | 04 10 2009 11:53:32 +0000
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NO, the sales persons views to be considered but ultimately the pricing is decided based on manufacuring cost, taxes duties, marketing over heads and then the profit. a sales person may not be able  analyse these things, interestingly how many sales people know the expenditure incured for making one call? it's not his salary or conveyance he has to consider the total expenditure of the company and they will be amazed to to see that their one call is costing any where between 800 to 8000 per call depending on the size of the company. Interesting? 


By B.Mehernath , Marketing & Technical Head, Bondit Construction Chemicals Pvt. Ltd.  | 03 25 2009 14:37:41 +0000
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Absolutely Not. It should be the jurisdiction of the expert departments like Manufacturer,Marketing, at least when the sales target is not achieved, you have the final execuse of pricing, to cast the blame on the experts.


By Shiuli Mukherji, Head Strategy Plan- , Region SEA  | 03 25 2009 06:45:11 +0000
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I think there are people who have different capabilities and they should be explored with that itself and not by experimenting with other things.

By Anil Kumar Singh, Senior Consultant, GKC  | 12 24 2008 19:58:47 +0000
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I think this is not the way to improve margins it has been recorded in the past that 68% of the sales people are not able to calculate their ROI.

By Amit Madhav, Senior Consultant, GKC  | 12 24 2008 19:57:10 +0000
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