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Procurment of Materials from CHINA.

Created by : Govardhana , Purchase Engineer, Starion INDIA Pvt. Ltd  | 03 24 2011 08:13:07 +0000
Keywords : procurment of materials from china.
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China Materials are at LOW cost and also the Transit time is low compared to Other Nations like KOREA. They have the High flexiblity of material movement and easy flow.
By Govardhana , Purchase Engineer, Starion INDIA Pvt. Ltd  03 24 2011 08:13:07 +0000
 
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We all know it is cheap but will cheap is not all we need quality. After quality comes the cost.
By Amit Madhav, Senior Consultant, GKC  03 25 2011 09:47:48 +0000
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Hey Mr. Ratin Deb,

For strategically important material, we have a standard of getting a Third party / OWNERS site Inspection certificate. Based on this verification process only , we buy certain items, be it UK,USA,Europe or any other country.

Purchaser can make an agreement with the Supplier, in case, items were found non-conformity to standard of requisition, material can be returned at the cost of the Supplier & due replenishment is to made at their cost. This we can negotiate at the time of entering into contract with the Supplier. Any negation / violation can be introduced with a penalty clause. Any thing, totally, violating (non-compliance) the agreement can be legally bind with Indian penal court(not China). For potential buyer there is no limitation in negotiation.
By KALIYAMOORTHY , Oil & Gas Area Coordinator, Undisclosed  | 03 28 2011 10:36:26 +0000
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Buyers usually have quality inspection of all those materials that are imported from China either through their own quality managers or through third party audit. If the imported materials still did not meet the quality requirements then the fault is at the buyers end.
By deepan , Sr.Research Analyst, Beroe  | 03 28 2011 09:20:17 +0000
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Quality material should by from china, but don't think it will not get half of the price from other sources ....
By SHAJAHAN P M, SALES MANAGER, UNION GULF SERVICES EST  | 03 27 2011 09:33:12 +0000
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Level of risk depends on the specification of the product.if the product specification is precise with no room for mis interpretation, then the chance of failure in manufacture at low cost economy is minimized. Unfortunately, companies try the oldest product first for manufacture in emerging economies and these have often loop holes in specifications
By ARAVINDAN , Industrial Engineer, IIT Kharagpur  | 03 26 2011 21:21:30 +0000
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Companies like us manufacturing almost 70k Ref at intial stage per month it is the Best supporting Company....!!! and When we reach the target of 1 ~ 1.2K it will be the best company for us to support for the Ease in flow of Materials.
By Govardhana , Purchase Engineer, Starion INDIA Pvt. Ltd  | 03 26 2011 08:09:26 +0000
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It is a closest country where we have communication & transportation is comfortably , time-saving. We know well that, Chinese product are quality-wise inferior but cost-wise may be competitive. It serves the purpose immediately for a short duration . For bulk purchase,  we can customize producer/ manufacturer to produce as per our quality requirements. This ,also indirectly,  increase the co-operation in the Asian continent.
By KALIYAMOORTHY , Oil & Gas Area Coordinator, Undisclosed  | 03 25 2011 18:04:04 +0000
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I endorse your view Mr.Govadhan ji China is a sucess model for showcasing its products to the entire world, especially so in electronics.The cost factor plus transittime is less all add to India's favour.
By kasturirangan.r , INSURANCE ADVISOR, Life Insurance Corporation Of India  | 03 25 2011 15:12:22 +0000
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If you are in it for the long term, dont even think of it, However if it is for the short term and are looking to make a good profit, then yes it is a agood idea.
By Jaygopal Raghavan, Marketing Manager, Landmark Group  | 05 12 2011 07:17:14 +0000
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We don`t get clearification for any problem in their supplied items quickly. Also the manuals will be either in china language or the badly english translated one.
By Akilan augustin raj M, Shift Engineer (Mechanical - Power Plant), S V Sugar Mills Limited  | 04 09 2011 02:07:19 +0000
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They are the worlds' Ulhasnagar !!!!
By suhaschandra deshpande, Marketing Associate  | 03 29 2011 11:12:00 +0000
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China is supplying material according to prices/costs involved.Hence here the cost of materials plays the role.Thanks Mr.Amit Madhav for the referral.
By NATTERAJA R. ARIKRISHNAN, GM-Projects, Bentec Electricals & Electronics Pvt. Ltd  | 03 28 2011 18:36:10 +0000
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Amit in order to procure from China one should have strict quality guidelines along with the quality Auditor posted in the factory in china in that case one will be able to procure the best quality at cheapest possible price. 
By Rathin Deb, Freelance Retail Consultant  | 03 28 2011 07:45:12 +0000
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Amit in order to procure from China one should have strict quality guidelines along with the quality Auditor posted in the factory in china in that case one will be able to procure the best quality at cheapest possible price. 
By Rathin Deb, Freelance Retail Consultant  | 03 28 2011 06:45:20 +0000
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Quality of  the material shouldbecheckedbefore it's actual use.

I support your views,Amit. & thanks for referral.
By SHRIKANT MANOHAR DANKE, Project Manager, Phadnis Infrastructur Ltd  | 03 26 2011 08:39:06 +0000
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I exactly accept with you SUSHILji... it is all about the Productivity turn over. What ever me the Quality and Cost.., Turn over is the main AIM...!!!
By Govardhana , Purchase Engineer, Starion INDIA Pvt. Ltd  | 03 26 2011 08:11:46 +0000
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Depends on what we are looking for quality or quantity! But again in the end we don't want to end up being all about quantity or being cheap all the time. In certain things, quality does comes way ahead. And come on Indians, we are way ahead from China in quality, we just need to get our priorities and infrastructure straight! I live in California and I buy things just reading "made in India". !
By Rashmi A Cuellar, Fit Specialist/Sales, Foot Solutions  | 03 26 2011 05:16:43 +0000
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I support the argument. The procurement decision bases the type and use of material.
By Mohammad Bakhsh, Project Leader/Managing Consultant, Freelancer  | 03 26 2011 04:03:23 +0000
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let us not bias with the cover without going inside. Let us not convince with price tag without knowing product history and quality.
By Santosh Kumar Mohanty, Civil Engineer-Municipal, Sambalpur University  | 03 25 2011 17:07:32 +0000
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if one has to boost-up quality, china materials - i don't think they will help, infact they'l only boost up business.
By Rajatesh Nath Barbhuiya, M.Des, Indian Institute Of Technology (IIT), Guwahati  | 03 25 2011 13:27:30 +0000
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Quality is directly proportional to the cost paid. Hence, definitely the quality is risky.

More of concern is - 

A) The impact these goods (Mainly plastic) would have on the environment. Because of its low quality there would be more wastage. If a good quality product lasts for 3 years and sells for Rs. X and a Chinese product sells 5 times lesser but lasts for only 4 months, then over a period of 3 years, 8 units would be used and discarded. The disposal method and its impact on the environment must be of concern.

B) China is communist and method used for manufacture is sure to have blatant misuse of human rights and human dignity. This should be of concern to all sane thinking human beings. 
By G A Narayan, VP - Marketing, KE Housing P. Ltd.  | 03 25 2011 11:43:08 +0000
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As a Materials Manager, your first priority is "Value for Money".... So one should never compromise on 'Quality' unless one intends to source 'Non-Critical, Low Value and mass-produced items...if so then CHINA it is!!!
By S.Sushil Kumar, Freelancer, Freelancer  | 03 25 2011 11:36:56 +0000
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no doubt their products are made with an heavy compromise in quality,
By Santosh A. Jadhav, Sr. Officer Sales  | 03 25 2011 09:59:26 +0000
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