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Created by : kota siva rama prasad, Sector Engineer (Q.S), hiranandani township pvt ltd  | 05 11 2009 17:07:31 +0000
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QUANTITY SURVEYOR (SMART WORKER) Vs PROJECT MANAGER (HARD WORKER)
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sorry guys for writing on the other side as well.

I dont know what has happened to the construction professionals in India. last time i took part in a debate related to Planning Engineer and someone wrote something about responsibility as documentation and again here the same thing is being said about QS. How many guys do the companies keep on one project for mere documentation and who is the person who is really working technitians, labours????

Project Engineers also do mere documentation as they keep a track record and follow deployment of technitians, read drawings and order partial deliveries of material (keep in mind that for complete schedule it is responsibility of Planning & QS) ie they are also just documenting. Same goes with MEP engineers and as already discussed planning and QS are also documenting. As for technical dept (str + arch) they work on drawings which also formas a part of documentation.

So who is actually working if not documenting, please clarify.

Please avoid making the such important roles of planning & Qs as mere document controllers and secretaries.

 


By Mohammad Shariq, Planning Engineer, Emirates Nuclear Energy Corporation  05 12 2009 11:26:35 +0000
 
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Both has to do smart & hard work but still I feel Quantity Surveying profession should move up and be more accountable for the performance of its services. I agree that being in charge of financial matters & data carries with it a great responsibility and the Quantity Surveyor has the expertise to provide independent advice on these matters. The Quantity Surveyor main responsibility should be to reduce the load of the Design Team and Project Manager. Quantity Surveyors and Project Managers from the same company do not regularly work together on projects & this perhaps an indication that
construction companies have not yet discovered the potential benefits of this combined service............


By Pragya Kothari, Construction-Heavy, DLF  05 12 2009 09:49:29 +0000
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Quantity Surveyors are able to manage all the site and also done his work also but Project Manager only manage the site and he is not able to properly work as a Quantity Surveyor so Quantity Surveyors Better then Project Manager
By Zartash Afzal, Quantity Surveyor, Civil Engineer  | 07 09 2012 20:19:15 +0000
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Quantity Surveyor - Manages & Handles Data in a Project

What an unprofessional perception of the role of Quantity Sureveyor that too from a person who proclaims himself as Project Manager. Won't the above description fits in for the Document Controller too? Although the topic of this debate is totally pointless, it is not necessary to demean a profession by recording some improper comments. Quantity Surveyor's role is more synonymous with pre and post contracts management, cost control, etc,. One cannot limit his role to handling just data.


By Mohammed Ali, Quantity Surveyor, Al Rajhi Projects  | 01 16 2010 14:29:18 +0000
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Ms Pragya I think there should  not be  any comparision between both as the most of the persons said. QS & PM both are in leading role  of any project. The aim of both is to success of any poject but there is some differences always occurs at the time of finalisation of rates . At that time most of the PMs do not care the rates / cost of the project because progress/target are  their priorties. On the other hand The cost of the project  is the top priorty of  A QS as well as the time factor. A QS planning always helps to PM to procure the material monitoring the cash flow etc. At the conclusion the smartness of the QS make easy worker to PM.          


By Anoop Chandra Srivastava, Sr. Manager (QS & Billing), Arrow Infra Ltd ( A Hero Group Co.)  | 05 13 2009 09:42:09 +0000
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A Quantity Surveyor is the maker and keeper of project data. He creates data out of Designs, drawings, sketches and need be, even from images. He converts complex designs and multiple drawings into easy and understandable data. He is in thorough understanding of a project even before the project has taken off the drawing board. Based on this data major decisions are effected. The role of the Quantity Surveyor varies from organisation to organisation, while working for a contractor he is the tender winner, when working for a developer he is the person who can hint at various cost cutting measures and when he is working with a consultant he  gives the cost projections. He can create Numerical data (costing), Technical data (Specifications) and Administrative data (Contracts).

To compare a Quantity Surveyor and a Project Manager is not right because in the absence of any one of them the project will suffer. But, I would like to add that the QS builds the field where all can play.


By Khalil Qureshi, Civil Engineer-Other, IGBC AP, Free Lancer  | 05 12 2009 12:09:35 +0000
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QUANTITY SURVEYOR IS CALUCULATED PERSON

PROJECT MANAGER IS PRACTICAL PERSON

INTILLIGENT IS Q.S, HARD WORKER IS P.M

IS IT RIGHT, SHARE YOUR KNOWLEDGE


By kota siva rama prasad, Sector Engineer (Q.S), hiranandani township pvt ltd  | 05 11 2009 17:07:31 +0000
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I support Yogendra,there is no comparision between a projct manager to a quantity surveyor.


By jps kumar, Project Manager, ECI ECC Ltd.  | 07 11 2009 11:19:26 +0000
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quantity surveyor is also in the team of project,and thus the part of project manager.


By SB DIKSHIT, STATE QUALITY MONITOR, U.P.R.R.D.A  | 06 28 2009 17:23:55 +0000
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Definitely there is no comparison between QS and PM.

I agree with Mr. Nitin. He explained so nice.

The Project Manager only person who can take the project towards success.

At the same time good team makes it posssible without pain. 


By P. Sivananda Kumar, Consultant, IL&FS Clusters  | 06 28 2009 15:10:02 +0000
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I totally aggree that ther is no comparision between QS and PM.Infact PM is more smarter and hard working than anybody in the project team.Project mnager is Line manager who generates results.Quantity surveyor documents the measurement and bills them.A smart QS is a real addition to the Project team's quality work.


By Mallaya Pandravada, GM-Project , GSSInfraTech Pvt Ltd  | 05 14 2009 06:39:58 +0000
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Ms.PRAGYA,

Qs.IS a part of project who handels the datas related to project. But the Project Manager has to look after every aspectof the project . If any thing is not operating properly PM has to get it done.Here qs.is only playing a supportive role regarding datas only.No doubt althoudh in running a machine every part even a screw is important,similarly every person is important in project.But PM is the power house of project hence he is more important. 


By rakeshbhatnagar , GM Projects., wig brothers india pvt.ltd.  | 05 13 2009 11:22:11 +0000
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I fully agree with Ms. Pragya as both the members are no doubt important but the PM is always with  generalistic approach and is fully responsible to the success of the project while QS is a subject specialist who supports the PM and so in a mood to have limited approach.


By joshi avinash achyutrao, Head/VP/GM-Corporate Planning/Strategy, water resources dept, govt of maharashtra  | 05 13 2009 03:59:43 +0000
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Roles of QS and PM are totally different so comparision is not realistic. QS has to work in pre construction stage and PM has to work in execution stage. Both can be hardworkers and amart workers in respective fields. QS is to work is as support staff to PM during execution stage to check the deviations from original plan/estimate. Infrence should be role of both are important but PM carries responsibilty of the project hence is more important than QS.


By Er. Harnam Singh, Project Manager, CPWD  | 05 12 2009 16:59:04 +0000
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I agree with Mr shenoy.Nicely explained!!!!!!!!


By BEENA AGARWAL, Head/VP/GM-Corporate Planning/Strategy, ANADI HI TECH AGRO PVT LTD  | 05 12 2009 16:13:18 +0000
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Really speaking, there is no question of comparision between PM & QS. Both are equally important for the project.

But I will give bit more emphasis to PM, as he is leading the project and gives it the physical progress after studying the drawings, contract specification and managing the different resources smartly and effectively.

Whereas, QS is converting the physical progress in to the financial progress with proper documentation & justification in a systematic approach and also strive hard and smart to enhance the maximum monetary  advantages for his company.


By Rashmin K. Pandya, Deputy Project Manager, Simplex Infrastructures Ltd., Muscat Branch  | 05 12 2009 12:18:55 +0000
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Completely agree with Mr.Yogendra.Basically Quantity Surveyor role is to manage and control contracts and costs within construction projects. This involves the deployment of an extensive set of skills acquired through specialised formal education, specific training and experience whereas Project Manager role is the discipline of planning, organising and managing resources to bring about the successful completion of specific project goals and objectives.


By Venkatesh M, Warehouse Manager, Larsen and Toubro  | 05 12 2009 12:02:14 +0000
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Project Manager and Quantity Surveyor ----- No Comparision.....

Project Manager is leader and Quantity Surveyor is support staff .....Quantity Surveyor compiles the data in accordance with specifications, drawings and contract.....

Quantity surveyor can contribute in project-----but can not make it successful/failure.....Project Manager can make a project successful in all aspect....

Project Manager is smarter/hard working and more talented than Quantity Surveyor ........


By Yogendra Singh Chauhan, Civil Engineer-Highway Roadway, AECOM  | 05 12 2009 11:02:40 +0000
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I completely agree with Nitin.

Hats off man, wonderfull explanation


By Mohammad Shariq, Planning Engineer, Emirates Nuclear Energy Corporation  | 05 12 2009 10:13:17 +0000
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Quantity Surveyor - Manages & Handles Data in a Project

Project Manager -  Manages & Handles Project

A Good Quantity Surveyor but Bad Project Manager shall result in accurate documentation of errors and deviations  which resulted in Project Failures..

Where as  undoubtedly only a GOOD PROJECT MANAGER can lead to Project Success...!!!

Hard Work  / Smart Work are applicable for both cases


By M NITIN SHENOY, PMP, IPMA-D, CEng MICE, Manager  | 05 12 2009 04:09:37 +0000
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