I think Hinduism is the most scientific religion ever. But certain practices need to be evolved, the religious leaders have to change certain things, like child marriage etc. We had the concept of zero, all our shastras have planets, the moon, biology, physiology. Ask the Germans who practice Indology more than us.
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neha singh, Content Editor, Avestia Corp
| 03 25 2011 14:41:44 +0000
To all my friends Plz dont insert any other debated in to science vs god debates, dont try to change topic. I am not debating on life, on heat, no one can give life without our mom and dad. dr. only try to save others life. but i dont want to discuss on this questions. i am only requesting you for dont west time of your children and our next generation.
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sameer kamble, IT Manager, indsoft systems
| 02 05 2011 16:54:50 +0000
i think supporters of other side will never come to science side, because of thinking, but jst requesting , please dont west your children time. let them know what is the truth why heat is generating, allow them for watch discovery channel. allow them for read books of science. tell them god means only nature, parents and teacher tell me how you know that god created world. are you older than god, we never says science created world, but science trying to prove what is real, and how its created.
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sameer kamble, IT Manager, indsoft systems
| 02 05 2011 14:16:13 +0000
@ Revathy Nice working out all those examples of scientists and physicians giving their testimonials about their work and god. yeah they might have given absolute god connection to all their work, only to escape the wrath to completely understanding or popularize the beautifulness of this universe. i accept all, but u must understand they are just praising the creations of the so called god. indirectly they are trying to understand the inner structure of the complex problem. u must have felt about the feeling of something u have not solved, and through hard work when u solved it, the feeling is so good. and i am not saying i doesn't recognize the feeling of god. whenever i get the feeling of satisfaction, that is a god for me. yeah i have not seen god and cannot accept 'him' or 'her' as i cannot ascertain his or her physical presence or even some hint for that matter. I Can only see god in my feelings of daily life, further than that i have no experience, if u have some kindly spread information again. the last one was good!!
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Sri Krishna, B.Tech/B.E. student, Birla Institute Of Technology Science (BITS), Pilani
| 02 04 2011 04:26:00 +0000
we believe on nature. every thing happen on earth bye power of nature, gravity ,sun and moon, god is created by men "only men" other animals also live on earth they dont have god they never pray in mandir or church, human is the only animal who believe on god, but animal know the truth of life because they have extra sense, they understand nature, sun position, animals are totally depend on nature but only men believe in god. so please humans , learn from animals sorry if i hurt someone , but our next generation future is in our hand, dont west your children time like we wasted teach them about science. nature technology instead of arranging havan and pujas
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sameer kamble, IT Manager, indsoft systems
| 02 03 2011 17:13:16 +0000
@ Revathy U have a very wrong understanding of god and science. Let me tell u, where.. When we get hurt, we say 'oh my god', 'oh my mother'. You are right there, but you haven't studied how this came to being. Firstly why god was introduced in our lives?? The purpose of god is a good one by our ancestors but a hastily put forth entity. God makes us to get up in the morning, makes us clean our tooth, take a bath, etc in a proper manner, otherwise if u don't do and if you are a true believer of god then your conscience is hurt. God is Just an embodiment of good, thats what proposed by people of yore. then again the same concept of god was used to create fear in the hearts of others, and yet again god is used to kill people. Don't u think, something is going wrong?? :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: And now the concept of fear of god is used in every wake of life, particularly children; the torch bearers of humanity. life starts with lies, we are fed with lots of lies in our childhood, so that we can behave. "If u r not eating fast, god will not like you", "Devil is roaming in night, so sleep before it can get u r attention", blah blah blah. So Life Begins in Lies. Men who came from that childhood are so fed up, that they started wondering "what is happening??", this thought process is the genesis of science, as science is the Ability to produce solutions in some problem domain. Science is just a humble beginning to understand god, and u r misunderstanding that. obviously if u want to make an important decision, then will u consult god or will u think about it yourself?? God has made men wise, hence if used properly, it can create miracles else an impending doom, i don't think i need to give you examples in this direction.
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Sri Krishna, B.Tech/B.E. student, Birla Institute Of Technology Science (BITS), Pilani
| 02 02 2011 13:03:45 +0000
@ Mr. Vidhur sorry to say but u are wrong... Nature discovered science not science discoverd nature, because there was a time before science in that time people lived happily with nature only. Ther are certain places in Africa & India still people are living with nature....
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Revathy Venkitesh, Traffic Assistant, Global Aviation & Services Group
| 02 02 2011 09:41:57 +0000
Man may have been created by God. But God has definitely been created by Man. In the name of God I will support Science. Probably God Himself wants us to make that choice. That is the message of God -- do your Karma. Science is Karma.
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Rajeev Sharma, Strategic Analyst, Columnist, Publishing
| 02 01 2011 05:28:28 +0000
'God God God' as in One Piece, The anime pronounced by Ussop. Sorry i was telling things most people dont know, but god would ? The difference between discussing about god and science is like a study to understand infinity and a finity. all we know is science and all which is there is god? anyway if we go on talking about god and science, we are gonna go mad wth all limbo and jumbo. so just enjoy life and yeah if u see god, thank him for me yo.
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Sri Krishna, B.Tech/B.E. student, Birla Institute Of Technology Science (BITS), Pilani
| 01 31 2011 22:00:03 +0000
We can only compare those things thats we know there specification or properties but science and God they both are at starting level so right now we are not able to compare them .............wait for right time...
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Sandeep Chobey, Sr. RF Engineer, Wharf (Holdings)
| 11 23 2010 12:43:47 +0000
Science is dependent on proof and evidence whereas God is linked to factors that cannot always be based on proof and evidence and a comparison and debate on these issues is endless and will not yield a result. Thanks for your referral, Sameer....
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Badri N Srinivasan, Head - Quality, Valtech India Systems Pvt. Ltd.
| 11 02 2010 17:37:31 +0000
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god created man.He was happy. Man created money.God and man both are unhappy.for all of our disasters we are responsible. God never told you to conquer or make to conquer . There are living things in volcano also. cockroch dynasty lives in world from million years of ago.With science you can not reach god or you can not reveal the truth.Because Science found MARS is Red a thousand years ago.But HIndu Vedam told and described to the people at the age itself MARS is a red planet and forceful with waves and storms. THe chapter is along one and can not be detailed in this.Science Has no Match to God .
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pandianarjunan , project manager
| 04 08 2011 06:04:17 +0000
KEEP IT UP REVATHY GOOD GOING "CAN OUR SCIENCE GIVE BIRTH TO OUR GRAND PARENT'S" ALL THE BOMBS , EXPLOSIONS, WEAPONS ARE MADE BY SCIENCE ONLY WHICH CAN SPREAD ONLY HATE BUT GOD IS SPREADING ONLY HAPPINESS & LIFE
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monika computers, providing IT services, Vohra Industries
| 03 26 2011 02:52:10 +0000
i challenge you all the users who support science & believe that science is bigger then GOD "I M REALLY SORRY IF ANY ONE FEEL BAD AFTER STUDYING THIS QUESTION" BUT CAN OUR SCIENCE GIVE LIFE TO OUR EXPIRED PERSON'S OF OUR FAMILY AT PRESENT I MY SELF LOOSE TWO MEMBERS FROM MY FAMILY CAN OUR SCIENCE DO THIS "YES" OR "NO "
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monika computers, providing IT services, Vohra Industries
| 02 05 2011 15:41:04 +0000
I can see most of you in the heat of the debate already. Well, I would not have want to experience the heat because science tells me that I may get burnt. But even then I have opted to join this debate because I believe I can withstand the heat. Why? Not because science has created a heat-resistant material for me, but because I believe that one day the supporters on the other side will one day come over to this side of the debate. How? When? Dont ask me. Ask GOD, else ask Science who will anyway not have the answer or may try to give an answer that will lead to another question and then another until your hair turns grey and you turn pale. You are again born to question the same questions you questioned in your previous birth, wasting your time just as you wasted in your previous birth. Good luck! "God is not what you imagine or what you think you understand. If you understand, you have failed" - Saint Augustine
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Saibal Ray, Sr. Process Engineer, KPIT Cummins Infosystems
| 02 05 2011 10:22:16 +0000
@ Dear krishna, let me tell u in short, if u dont believe in god ,then think of a supreme power or nature,& see the topic nature vs science. This is for u to understand about this topic easily. Dont think that I am pressuring u but think positively & in cool mind... I dont have any intension to overrule u or make fun of u... I want to show u the fact... I am doing research in this topic...I hope as a student u will knw hw universe came/began. Astrophysicist Robert Jastrow, a self-described agnostic, stated, "The seed of everything that has happened in the Universe was planted in that first instant; every star, every planet and every living creature in the Universe came into being as a result of events that were set in motion in the moment of the cosmic explosion.The Universe flashed into being, and we cannot find out what caused that to happen."Steven Weinberg, a Nobel laureate in Physics, said at the moment of this explosion, "the universe was about a hundred thousands million degrees Centigrade...and the universe was filled with light. Can u proove this all things are done by science & scientists???? The very begining I was like u, after researchin it at last I believed in god nw...I didn't realize that the reason the topic of God weighed so heavily on my mind, was because God was pressing the issue. I have come to find out that God wants to be known. He created us with the intention that we would know him. He has surrounded us with evidence of himself and he keeps the question of his existence squarely before us. It was as if I couldn't escape thinking about the possibility of God. In fact, the day I chose to acknowledge God's existence, my prayer began with, "Ok, you win..." It might be that the underlying reason atheists are bothered by people believing in God is because God is actively pursuing them. I am not the only one who has experienced this. Malcolm Muggeridge, socialist and philosophical author, wrote, "I had a notion that somehow, besides questing, I was being pursued." C.S. Lewis said he remembered, "...night after night, feeling whenever my mind lifted even for a second from my work, the steady, unrelenting approach of Him whom I so earnestly desired not to meet. I gave in, and admitted that God was God, and knelt and prayed.... The universe has not always existed. It had a start...what caused that? Scientists have no explanation for the sudden explosion of light and matter. Richard Feynman, a Nobel Prize winner for quantum electrodynamics, said, "Why nature is mathematical is a mystery.The fact that there are rules at all is a kind of miracle.
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Revathy Venkitesh, Traffic Assistant, Global Aviation & Services Group
| 02 02 2011 22:09:38 +0000
@ sri krishna: This is the continuation of my previous debate,,,, Many examples showing God's design could be given, possibly with no end. But here are a few:..............The Earth...its size is perfect. The Earth's size and corresponding gravity holds a thin layer of mostly nitrogen and oxygen gases, only extending about 50 miles above the Earth's surface. If Earth were smaller, an atmosphere would be impossible, like the planet Mercury. If Earth were larger, its atmosphere would contain free hydrogen, like Jupiter.3 Earth is the only known planet equipped with an atmosphere of the right mixture of gases to sustain plant, animal and human life.. The Earth remains this perfect distance from the sun while it rotates around the sun at a speed of nearly 67,000 mph. It is also rotating on its axis, allowing the entire surface of the Earth to be properly warmed and cooled every day. And our moon is the perfect size and distance from the Earth for its gravitational pull. The moon creates important ocean tides and movement so ocean waters do not stagnate, and yet our massive oceans are restrained from spilling over across the continents... Take Water...colorless, odorless and without taste, and yet no living thing can survive without it. Plants, animals and human beings consist mostly of water (about two-thirds of the human body is water). You'll see why the characteristics of water are uniquely suited to life: Ninety-seven percent of the Earth's water is in the oceans. But on our Earth, there is a system designed which removes salt from the water and then distributes that water throughout the globe. Evaporation takes the ocean waters, leaving the salt, and forms clouds which are easily moved by the wind to disperse water over the land, for vegetation, animals and people. It is a system of purification and supply that sustains life on this planet, a system of recycled and reused water.
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Revathy Venkitesh, Traffic Assistant, Global Aviation & Services Group
| 02 02 2011 21:52:16 +0000
@ Sri krishna: I must say u are totaly wrong dear,Even thoug I am doing research in this topic,had collected lots of points & proof in this.... Just once wouldn't you love for someone to simply show you the evidence for God's existence? No arm-twisting. No statements of, "You just have to believe." Well, here is an attempt to candidly offer some of the reasons which suggest that God exists. But first consider this. If a person opposes even the possibility of there being a God, then any evidence can be rationalized or explained away. It is like if someone refuses to believe that people have walked on the moon, then no amount of information is going to change their thinking. Photographs of astronauts walking on the moon, interviews with the astronauts, moon rocks...all the evidence would be worthless, because the person has already concluded that people cannot go to the moon. When it comes to thepossibility of God's existence, the Bible says that there are people who have seen sufficient evidence, but they have suppressed the truth about God.1 On the other hand, for those who want to know God if he is there, he says, "You will seek me and find me; when you seek me with all your heart, I will be found by you."2 Before you look at the facts surrounding God's existence, ask yourself, If God does exist, would I want to know him? Here then, are some reasons to consider...
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Revathy Venkitesh, Traffic Assistant, Global Aviation & Services Group
| 02 02 2011 21:41:32 +0000
Give your argument...Despite knowing all the components of a human cell and the exact ratios in which each molecule exists, none of the scientists have ever been able to creat a living cell, the genesis of the universe is still debated from a " Steady State to Big Bang" but there is no conclusive emperical evidence for either... I have been a science student myself and I certainly give a considerable credit to science , technology and mathemetics for giving us knowledge and quality of life through material inventions... but how does science explain, emotions, ESP, telepathy, premonition, instincts and so many other facts which drive the human race to unimaginable achievements! I believe that Divinity start where science ends... yes it is important to have faith and belief in the Almighty power, nomenclature is immeterial - God , Allah, Christ or any Daiety...but not at the cost of being illogical and superstitious... it is God who had blessed the human race with intellect and so many creative faculties to learn, admire and know more about His creations... I am sure there is a lot that science needs to cover before you actually assume it to be even close to the super natural!
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Vishal Chitrey, Senior Manager - Bancassurance, Aviva Life Insurance Co ltd
| 02 02 2011 19:35:48 +0000
These are few questions to all who ever are supporting for science... Do your science can create love towards a mom,children? Does it create respect & care from bottom of your heart?.. Will it perform miracles? Will it fill water in coconuts? Will it listen to your prayers? Will it create mountais & oceans? Do it create stars, planets, Galaxyies? There is a lots & lots of question like this..If any one answer these questions then we agree with you..
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Revathy Venkitesh, Traffic Assistant, Global Aviation & Services Group
| 02 02 2011 09:49:30 +0000
Those who all are supporting science, I do respect for their way of thinking & believe. But there was a life without science... 2000 years back,, We lived in a world were ther was no science at all... In that ages too man survived & lived his live happily... Nature is a best friend of all living things,,,, It gives natural way of cure what is science do steal this nature & give their own name of medicines,, & now adays science itself creates harmful virus against human...
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Revathy Venkitesh, Traffic Assistant, Global Aviation & Services Group
| 02 02 2011 09:36:41 +0000
I do strongly disagree, because Science is good to give us knowledge. Science is developed it can do job like God(natures) do, it can creat cloning, it can take life of a man too. But will it create luv towards parents or respect from our heart or can it create another earth with land, water,oxygen, humans ,animals,etc... Then why do we are not saying Oh my Science instead of Oh my God. It itself shows how god is important to us & till what extent god is in our heart............
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Revathy Venkitesh, Traffic Assistant, Global Aviation & Services Group
| 02 02 2011 09:27:28 +0000
There is an eg: When we hurt we Indians say mom in that point of pain, why we are not saying science in that point.. like wise When we do any mistake we say oh my god ,not oh my science... There will be a place in our hear for god not science. What ever science do it is science only it cant take place of God..............
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Revathy Venkitesh, Traffic Assistant, Global Aviation & Services Group
| 02 02 2011 09:18:17 +0000
Ignorance often results in disbelief hence some persons refuse to accept the presence of GOD. I would like to mention some basics here. A concept in a human mind leads to an Idea. The mind works upon an idea or set of ideas to a definite conclusion and thus a hypothesis is postulated. A hypothesis when debated and accepted by a group of intellectuals transforms to a Theory. The theory when practically demonstrated and proved becomes an accepted Scientific Law. Many ideas remain in the intermediate stages due to lack of determination or pursuance by the originators. The ideas do not, however, cease to exist. The gestation period may be too large to be visible even in a lifetime or a span of a few centuries. Science states that energy precedes matter. Matter cannot be wiped off from the Universe. It dissipates and converts to some other invisible form which is a form of energy. REIKI (Universal Life Force Energy) is used for physical and mental healing, spiritual growth, protection from evil and removal of blockages leading to successful completion of tasks. In Hinduism we say Paar Brahm Parameshwar: Paar is Beyond, Brahm is Cosmos and Parameshwar is The Supreme. In other words the Supreme Power or God is Beyond the Cosmos also referred to as the Sacchitanand ie. the existence of eternal truth and happiness. Outside the Cosmos there is only Sublime Energy in its purest form or PURE CONSCIOUSNESS (Sacchitanand). This energy when it enters the Universe is acted upon by an element Kaal ie. TIME and manifests itself as matter: Vapour or gas in the rarest form and solid in the densest. This is the process of formation of all life forms. The Panch Tatva or FIVE ELEMENTS are involved in life formation. All that is formed grows and then decays with TIME. After decay as matter cannot be wiped off it is again broken up into its FIVE constituents and reconverts to different energy forms which may be again circulated in or Beyond the Cosmos. Re-circulation in the Universe is re-birth in some form whereas movement beyond the Cosmos is Moksha or ETERNAL BLISS. Science also accepts the theory of Dynamic Equilibrium ie. the sustenance of life by virtue of continuous motion. Everything in the Universe is in constant motion and hence changes with passage of Time. Every thing in the world is inter-dependant. Nothing can exist independently without being affected by the environment. Take for eg. Two Tuning Forks A & B placed close to one another. When A is struck it vibrates at its own frequency and induces a vibration in B, which is called resonance. The amplitude & frequency of B can be calculated at a particular time. If the process is extended to include a third tuning fork the equation becomes further complicated. Imagine what if a thousand or more forks are positioned together. This is exactly what happens with creation in this materialistic world. All forms that exist in this world follow the same principle. A form that exists on a higher frequency influences those having lower frequencies. This is how people influence each other or are able to perform extra-ordinary acts often called miracles. The good and the evil co-exist in this world. When there is excess evil leading to an imbalance a higher or more concentrated form of Cosmic Energy enters the Materialistic world which under the influence of Time Manifests into a material form. It vibrates on a higher frequency and has the sole objective of restoring the equilibrium between the pious and evil persons in society. Once the purpose is fulfilled it leaves the world. The incarnations of Lord Vishnu, Jesus Christ, Prophet Mohammad, Gautam Buddha, Mahavir, The Sikh Gurus are some such examples. If we realize the above there will be no conflict between Science and God.
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Pradeep Saran, Technical Expert
| 02 02 2011 05:16:48 +0000
Nice article u posted out here @Vincent! I would also like to share that Intelligent design concept goes to the minuscule level of RNA synthesis to say only one thing: "To find such intricacies, such perfections, such design, such detail, such beauty and the genuine thoughts behind all these- one will surely wonder- it has to be an intelligent being behind all these. It cannot all be by chance, coincidence or by lifeless physical forces" is what the theory says. We have to but simply think about this- Is it so difficult to accept the existence of the intelligence of an intelligent being?
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Anantha Shayana. D, CTO/CIO, RAYSITI
| 02 01 2011 17:46:01 +0000
Science is the discoverer of natures creations whatever name you want to give it God,consciousness ,Nature or us as the dreamer of this wild dream but the creator is always more important than the discoverer .
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Vidhu Dar, CEO/MD/Director, Shiva's Retreat
| 02 01 2011 16:30:25 +0000
Science is accrued knowledge of reasoning, logic, step by step thinking quest to know the unknown, God is belief, why are you comparing/contrasting/debating? It is like comparing/contrasting/debating which is good apple or banana. We are born unique with a code (Structure) that has an energy associated, how an individual is going to use it it’s his/her sole discretion. Does being knowledgeable make you better human then another being driven by belief? Human beings live is society, now that, science the knowledge of our “surrounding” and the “capability” to "tweak" it has given rise to communication devices, technology to reach to deep space, does it bring down belief; it’s a human function like passion, creativity, etc. Dear Sameer have you become a techno geek? Sameer started a debate on Science vs God, poor fellow got beaten so badly that he wiped out all his stupid conversation, don't do this kind of cheap things.
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Joydeep Dasgupta, Business Development, New Horizon
| 02 01 2011 05:55:26 +0000
Had to choose some side! If "God" is the encryptor, then "Science" is the decryptor! If "God" is the creator, "Science" is the discoverer! I can explain how Rayleigh Scattering is responsible for beautiful colors during a sunset, but I can never explain why it is beautiful or why I enjoy it!  When man was inventing tools to survive in the wild 10000 years before, his tools and skills were Science- his faith, love and fears were God! Can never ask my girl- "What's the proof that you love me?" Neither can I dip my finger in concentrated H2SO4 with a blind faith that it won't burn! Do I believe in God? That's very personal. :)
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Anantha Shayana. D, CTO/CIO, RAYSITI
| 01 31 2011 19:30:08 +0000
sicience is the technology that is created by god and used by god... so god is great scientist.... peoples are at the surface of science but god is at its core... so GOD IS GREAT
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ARUN SHARMA, OPERATION MANAGER, SECURITY COMPANY
| 01 31 2011 15:20:45 +0000
i am not a supporter of god. but mr.sameer please tell me what does "Sience" mean. A new word not found any dictionary.Did you mean "Science" if yes then please be kind enough to correct it immediately.
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KUMAR SWAMY H C, A.G.M. - Mfg.Engg.
| 11 23 2010 19:48:44 +0000
God is omni potent,omni present and it is absolutely immature to compare god with anything else.
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s.baalu , Consultant, XYZ LTD
| 11 23 2010 12:30:47 +0000
can't we think we are our knowledge in bad way how can we compare any thing on earth with GOD before also i receive debate in which people compare google with GOD now we are trying to compare Science with GOD can't we think we have make fun of GOD by launching this useless debate what is google or science this all things made with the help of GOD only today if any mother give birth to a child its by the help of GOD without we can do any thing then how can we compare any temporary thing with main part sorry to say but i know that nothing in this world is greater than GOD
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monika computers, providing IT services, Vohra Industries
| 11 08 2010 14:04:10 +0000
@ Sameer, Though I am not interested in an arguemnt after reading your explanation I was thinking How it relates to this debate... No God or religious books are telling you go to this temple or that church and gave money for prayers. If you believes in GOD you can pray even in your home...That is for your well being. There was serious debate in toostep about this topic. I will attach the link for that later.
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Manoj Kumar, Sr: Manager - QA, ARCHETYPE GROUP, INDIA
| 11 03 2010 06:44:18 +0000
Joydeep I agree with you at the same time in my opinion Science and God are two different things. I believe in science and a greater believer of God.
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Rathin Deb, Freelance Retail Consultant
| 11 03 2010 04:39:01 +0000
Thanks,Sameer,As a matter of fact, debating S v/s G will leave paranoia.God is paranormal entity and Science is curiosity born out of fear of our return journey. To be very frank,this R J is the only guiding factor of challenging the existing of God.i appreciate your argument which proved your bona fides that you are a scientist.
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Mohammad Bakhsh, Project Leader/Managing Consultant, Freelancer
| 11 03 2010 03:58:57 +0000
yes Joy, I also feel same...a meaningless debate created just for to create something....what is the relation between GOD and science...absolutely nonsence.......Something which is theory and other being something to prove...Sorry to say that useless...Sorry friends if I am wrong..
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Manoj Kumar, Sr: Manager - QA, ARCHETYPE GROUP, INDIA
| 11 02 2010 16:26:11 +0000
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