Right such type of sex is only when a Man promises marriage
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vijaya shanbhag, Proprieter, Vijaya Services( Logo Designer)
| 05 15 2013 07:49:00 +0000
ONE GUY IS ASKING ME " WHAT IS YOUR MISSION IN LIFE" I DONOT WANT TO REVEAL THE NAME....He is a very cunning and crooked man has sex with girls ...i said " TO SEE THAT NO DIVORCES TAKE PLACE" Some NRI Men are very crooked try to cheat girls fool them and make them wives and have FUN AND ENJOY WITH OTHER GIRLS ... and want wife only for getting children .. Bechari wife Pati ko Devata samajhti hai aur PATI RAJA DHANANAND OF CHANDRAGUPT MAURYA... Uses girls throws....enjoys...
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vijaya shanbhag, Proprieter, Vijaya Services( Logo Designer)
| 05 15 2013 02:31:34 +0000
No.because it understand MUTUALLY.
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Biswajit Mishra, B.Tech/B.E. student, Birla Institute Of Technology Science (BITS), Pilani
| 06 27 2011 15:26:30 +0000
Ofcoarse it is a rape and also cheating to the future partner.. But if the couples have agreed to marry each other and then they enter into any relationship , the act can be neglected
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Ashish Sureka, Assistant manager - Mergers & Acquisitions / Corporate Affairs, Ruia Group
| 06 27 2011 04:19:03 +0000
well according to hindu mythology Sex before marriage is totally wrong b'coz an Indian girl who is totally built up under her parent's fully guardian then she doesn't agree with her 99% confirm future husband to do sex before marriage. 1% is totally possible if his husband due to any reason if break that marriage even before 1 hour then its a very much hurted time for girl parent's & after if they come to know that their daughter is going to become mother of his unconfirmed husband then i don't think so that that GIRL or their parent's will able to servive a smooth life ahead In INDIA there is only 1 thing is good that this type of relation is still under covered but i think that members on toostep will now to open this relation openly that's y they always launch this type of debate & In other countries these relation are totally open So, according to my point of view Sex before marriage is totally wrong thing
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monika computers, providing IT services, Vohra Industries
| 06 27 2011 03:33:53 +0000
@Muralidharan sir: I agree with you. Indeed, how CAN a man prove that he had consensual sex. Earlier, I did not think about the woman turning hostile. As long as the woman goes along, there is no problem. The moment she becomes against the man - he's in a lot of trouble. In such cases, the woman doesn't really care whether what she is doing is right or wrong - she just thinks of her feelings. Take the case of a person I know: The wife wanted her husband to throw his parents out of the home - so she registered a case of "Dowry Harassment" against them when her husband was out of the country on an assignment. The poor parents were put in jail for quite a few days.
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Isaac Madhavan, R & D Manager, Test prep company
| 06 26 2011 14:59:44 +0000
absolutely not..when sex is between consent of both partners..no way sex is termed as rape before marriage....
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rajesh , MBA/PGDM student, Presidency college of management sciences
| 06 26 2011 07:29:45 +0000
Wel this is a trend wid youngistan first sex next success in married life so it does'nt matters to anyone us on "SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE BE TERMED AS RAPE" It is a fashion and trend we can call it as ....
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Sheethal K, Business Development Manager
| 06 25 2011 18:28:28 +0000
Rape is forced sex.Nowaday trend is living together. so nothing wrong if it is mutually accepted
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sheriff r mohideen, planning manager- engineering dept, FMG limited
| 06 25 2011 15:12:17 +0000
Sex with wife also becomes rape if it is done forcefully and when there are strained relations between them and when there is no mutual agreement for it.
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Srinivas suravajhala, Asst. Manager.
| 06 25 2011 07:34:38 +0000
Sex before marriage is surely rape, if: 1. It is done forcefully or 2. done by making false promises like to marry at later stage Sometimes consensual sex may happen due to the agreement between boy and girl to get married at a later stage. But it is wrong when someone break promise and deceive the girl. It should be treated as rape and the culprit should be punished to the maximum extent possible.
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M Sood, Manager, HCL
| 06 07 2011 20:13:09 +0000
Quite typical question. Yes it should be.
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phanindra , B.Tech/B.E. student, College Of Engineering , Andhra University, Vishakhapatnam
| 06 07 2011 13:50:47 +0000
Excellent topic. A little delicate though. This is NOT actually a matter of consensual sex. It is also NOT a matter of sex with underage persons. This is definitely NOT about seduction at all. This is a sort of rape. Some people do it with alcohol or drugs. This guy agreed in front of their society that he likes her enough to marry her. AFTER that he used her emotions & trust to have sex with her. This is NOT seduction. Finally, he cancelled the marriage on a pretext. Thus, it can be argued that he got engaged to her with the express purpose of having sex with her and then rejecting her. Though not painful physically, there would be a lot of negative and depressing feelings - the pain of rejection, the ego hurt by feeling inadequate & unattractive, the pain of betrayal, the perceived loss of "honor" & "prestige" in one's society, as well as the feelings of having been used/abused AND the awareness of people knowing that she has been used/abused. This should be called rape - whether done by man to woman OR woman to man.
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Isaac Madhavan, R & D Manager, Test prep company
| 06 06 2011 09:51:24 +0000
Pre-marriage sex is often a matter of consent and people often indulge in it out of curiosity and wanton desire.
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AMISH , Writer - Administrator
| 08 06 2010 07:27:47 +0000
Yes and No. Yes, because, there should be control on boys who uses girls. No, because it should not be considered as rape till date each girl on this earth is not ready to understand that 100% effect of live-in relationship, pre-maritial sex, affairs, one night stand, so called modern attitude is on girl. Boys has no effect of that. They just do and take quick exit.
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Vikram Gaur, State - Convener (IT), Haryana, Bharatiya Janata Party
| 03 26 2010 06:04:29 +0000
sex before marrige in the indian context ofcourse is rape because that activity hamper the indian culture.
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ajay kumar, insurance officer, cashpor micro credit
| 02 07 2010 12:04:55 +0000
First it was bye, bye morality; now it’s hai, hai morality!
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Shiuli Mukherji, Head Strategy Plan- , Region SEA
| 02 06 2010 08:50:49 +0000
Yes i agree with you that before marriage sex is rape because i think that if it happen and after sex any by leave alone that girl then she is very unhappy ............Apple Ipad
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jon lootashi, Accounts Manager, ACF agro lt.
| 02 06 2010 06:26:44 +0000
What is the difference between having sex and forced sex???
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Makrand Bhave, AGM - Corporate Business, E18, part of Network 18 Group
| 02 06 2010 05:55:58 +0000
my take is the law of the land cannot come in between two consensual adults in a bed room.but in cases such as stated above were the partner then broke the promise of marriage it is correct to term it as rape. and as punishment should be subject to chemical castration the same punishment should be extend for pedophiles and sexual predators as well without any gender bias
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R.SANJAY GREGORY WILLIAMS, HR-Admin MNager, CItrisys solutions
| 02 05 2010 07:39:45 +0000
yes definitely should be termed as a rape.it may control some crime may be.
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phanindra , B.Tech/B.E. student, College Of Engineering , Andhra University, Vishakhapatnam
| 02 05 2010 03:47:36 +0000
In that specific case, the accused has been having sex under the pretext of marrying her in future and finally, he refused to marry this complainant in favour of somone else, thus it amounted to rape. We cannot say of the same thing if both the parties were having sex knowing full well that they will ultimately marry someone else other than their pre-marital sexual partners. Only where there is a promise of future marriage against current sexual relationships and filing to marry this pre-marital sexual partner amounts to rape.
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M. Prabhakar Rao, Green Consultant: Green Buildings, LEED Certifications, GreenGuard, Energy Star, GreenCo Certifications, Energy Audits
| 02 04 2010 11:06:22 +0000
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I have no answer to this question. Some questions in a language deserve the answers in that particular language only. Why somebody want to have sex before marriage and wanted to call it a Rape later? Elementary my dear Watson !!!!
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Suryanarayan Murthy, Project Finance Advisor, Credit Line
| 05 24 2013 14:21:44 +0000
Once there is live in relationship, the lady or man looses the right to appeal for rape. The next way out is to walk out. It is impossible for jurisdiction to enter bedrooms and pass strictures. However in case of women trapped in relationship or even marriage, it is a dicy situation. Unfortunately, I do not have a workable solution for this. Maybe the social activists especially ladies empowerment groups could step in here and subtly convince the lady to walk out of bondage. Then maybe a proper assessment can be made and after giving due scrutiny to the severity of the crime, maybe action can be taken. As for consensual sex, well the buck stops there. You cannot have afterthoughts and complain for an act you were part of.
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Shameena W., Admin Manager, Wizcraft Inc.
| 05 17 2013 13:59:27 +0000
MUTUAL CONSENT GIVEN THEN THEY HAD SEX THEN THIS NOT THE CASES OF RAPE...
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Samik De, Entrepreneurship, ACIES HOSPITALITY AND TOURISM SOLUTIONS PVT. LTD.
| 02 26 2013 17:28:44 +0000
Consensual Sex between two legal adults cannot be termed as rape. However if the female alleges rape, the onus is on the male to prove otherwise and is quite difficult given our social apathy to this.
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Capt. V.S. Kartik, CEO/MD
| 06 29 2011 05:35:56 +0000
No. its a task taken place only after mutual understanding. First of all sex before marriage is something unethical. so what a term of usage will make the difference when it is going on....
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Ravanam naga durgesh, Junior engineer, Ericsson
| 06 28 2011 15:57:35 +0000
rape can be better known as forced intercourse...
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Vishnu Kumar, MBA/PGDM student, synergy school of business
| 06 27 2011 12:56:37 +0000
tough question to answer. if its consensual, then it cannot be classified as rape, if not, it can be claasified as rape
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srirang gollerkeri, Senior Recruitment Specialist with AimPlus Staffing Solutions
| 06 27 2011 04:57:31 +0000
This is the age old blackmailing technique used by women, first they tend to ignore you just like anything then they adore you like everything and finally they harass you like nothing. So in today's world the women are losing their once great dignity. In today's context when the women are inviting their own fate the rape must be rewarded rather than punishment, consider that if a good food exposed and unprotected is before your eyes how will you restrain yourself to eat, just to get the golden traditional society back. If we do this then these women will learn a lesson and will not be over egoistic because of advantages rendered as alms like the reservation and special consideration in law. If we want our golden India back then this is the only way.
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Ardhendu Pal, Technical Support Officer, Convergys India Services
| 06 27 2011 02:34:35 +0000
There are plenty of people who were able to use money and muscle power to get away with a rape while there are innocents who are "framed" into a rape - as long as Indians are hypocrites and the indian judiciary can be bought for a few hundred rupees, you can call a 'donkey' as a 'goat' and vice versa.
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Munshi Ramchand, Retired
| 06 27 2011 02:27:30 +0000
@Muralidharan, I disgree with what you have said. Give me some money and I will turn any women hostile and haunt you for life because that is how our society and people are - first class hypocrites.
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Munshi Ramchand, Retired
| 06 27 2011 02:20:33 +0000
MORALITY is a virtue! Your conscience will haunt you for life for such act! Consensual sex before marriage can not be termed as rape. CAVEAT: This can also land the man in trouble, if she reports to police otherwise. How can you prove you have had consensual sex? No woman would like to see another person in her place, if you are forced to marry out of family compulsions another person! You will be haunted for life if she turns hostile!
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S. Muralidharan, Executive Director, Knowledge Foundation & Campus Around the Corner
| 06 26 2011 05:27:33 +0000
Times have changed. Many women, like many men, now think it is acceptable to have have premaritial concensual sex. It is morally wrong for either to get into such a predicament, both are in the wrong. Both lack character. While such verdicts pronounced may protect a genuinely victimized woman it also sets a dangerous precedence for people to misuse. The process of producing evidence for any crime, in such matters, is only a complaint by the woman. Maybe in such cases the option of polygraph (lie detector) or a narco test (which the SC has now abolished unless the petitioner or defendant volunteer) should be considered - atleast to protect the innocent, either which way, and dispenses fair judgment to the perpetrator.
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Stephen O. Rajan, Technical Architect, Zenith Software Limited
| 06 25 2011 18:32:56 +0000
No. Sex between two mature persons and live in relations is common now a days. Actually rape is forcefully sex and mutual sex is not a rape.If that will be termed as rape I m sure that a huge amount of girls are raped everyday
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Krishna Bhardwaj, Lyrics Writer, Freelancer
| 06 25 2011 17:07:18 +0000
no, because consensual sex between two mature persons of opposite sex can not constitute a rape in IPC except in some conditions.
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Peeyush Chauhan, BANKER, GOVT BANK
| 06 25 2011 06:41:06 +0000
No!! if it happens with agreement of both then it cant be called RAPE! It can be considered as 'LUST' from both MALE & FEMALE sides.
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Rohit Thakur, Electrical Engineer-Industrial, Quality Engineering and Software Technologies
| 06 08 2011 04:00:20 +0000
this question is quite explicit.... so i will answer in a mild way by saying ...performance ..& ACR's count in the practical world..in all spheres.
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Ajay__Ziz , , jammu university
| 06 07 2011 11:04:25 +0000
If you still think that consensual sex before marriage to be termed as a rape then what is the point in living as there are people who doesn't believe in the institution of marriage so what will happen to them? and what will be the future of this sex market where the people are paid and earning their livelihood by this? And what trust has to play a role here I can't understand If both sexes agree to mingle then why on earth the law must stop it? it is indeed an education where each pf the gender is getting to explore new dimensions of pleasure and satisfaction...... I know this fuss is only happening in India and nowhere else as they have accepted their body's natural tendency
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Ardhendu Pal, Technical Support Officer, Convergys India Services
| 06 06 2011 06:29:21 +0000
Consensual Sex cannot be termed as rape. However, Coercive Sex can be termed as rape with high degree of punishment. It is the couple who need to come to an understanding whether or not, they have protective sex irrespective of their marriage plans. At the end of it, if they both consent to experience the sublime pleasure, whether or not protective, without the consideration of tying the nuptial knot, then why do you want to term it as a RAPE? It is ridiculous. "Seduction isn’t making someone do what they don’t want to do. Seduction is enticing someone into doing what they secretly want to do already."
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Saibal Ray, SQA, confidential
| 06 05 2011 14:12:39 +0000
If below age of 18 then is legally rape.. ELSE its simple breach of trust. Result of wrong investment of time and relationship with wrong man, who either lacks initiative or blunt liar. Its up to the woman to be inwardly detached and not be *crazy in love and have expectation* from the man she dreams of marrying.
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Aishwarya Kapoor, Freelancer, Radio, TV & Films
| 04 15 2011 17:53:19 +0000
No it is not rape if did with mutual consent & done with girl above 18 year. instead the case must be 420,that is cheating.& punishment should be given for 420. Some women are misusing this act by appealing men to indulge in sexual contact with them & later threaten them to fire case.Female should indulge in physical relationship with their husband.Why they first do a mistake & then blame men ?
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rahul p rinayat, Software Developer, Geometric Solution
| 08 06 2010 06:46:55 +0000
I do not agree on this as if the things are happening with mutual understanding then we should not consider it as in rape.... unfortunately majority of us have negative thoughts for SEX....while many of us have tendency to see such movies and all if am i not wrong...but when the things come on practical side we always think about our culture and our limitations. In this rapidly growing world our thoughts are also like that in very open minded and in very practical way.....
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Hinal Gandhi, Supervisor, Karvy Data Managment Service LTD
| 04 28 2010 13:47:14 +0000
If there is mutal consent then no criem but if during the intercourse if the lady changes her mind and is not ready and the man continues then it a crime
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Nikhil , Senior Manager, Insurance
| 04 28 2010 10:21:10 +0000
sex before marrige should be taken as crime for both because sexual act has been done on mutual agree from both . so it shud be taken as crime and punishment for both. law become more favorable in favour of female in any sexual crime rather if we see the present cenario both boy or girl shud be equally responsible of the act. we all can jugde from the culture and living of all metro/sub metro cities boy and girls whoms culture giving influnce more to village or backward area young generation to do such acts also,so it shud be fault n punishment for both.
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virender kumar, REGIONAL BUSINESS MANAGER, CELON LABS LTD
| 03 29 2010 16:16:47 +0000
Absolutely.The keyword here is "CONSENSUAL". Lets get this Big taboo that we have on SEX out.There are lot more sensitives issues at hand for two adult people think about before committing to a marriage. Its only foolish to think about sex in the context.I think its more to do with counseling the people involved. And for the court ,All I can say is that Our judiciary system should have understand the meaning of Free Will. The law cant just plunge into anything and everything . Once we are a define adult (above 18) , people should be responsible for their own acts done with mutual consent.As a citizen of India how much should I think before I do what I feel like. Please save my freedom and please dont create laws which would deny me freewill where I am not hurting anybody.I am sensitive enough to bring my moral police into action before I do certain act.
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Dipankar Kuanr, Business Analyst, KPIT Cummins Infosystems
| 03 27 2010 11:26:24 +0000
In India, we are shy even to discuss 'sex' in public ... !! Thanks for bring this debate here. This debate is incomplete without openion/s from the ladies, they are the half of the population. What is their take in a dispute ( ! ) like this ? I would like to put the episode in another angel : here a 'breach of trust' is established. Oral commitment is also an agreement. Here that has been broken. Is 'breach of trust' not punishable ? Recent ........... The Supreme Court division bench has given judgement that no law can prevent a man and a woman living together in Khusboo statement case. Details awaited.
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ASOKE KUSARI, Domestic Private Banking-Executive/Manager, A large leading PSU Bank - India
| 03 26 2010 15:23:30 +0000
I would agree on the reason and the differentiation given on rape and consensual sex. Even girls are also mature enough to understand and in the case reference given both of them were equally responsible and can't be termed as rape. Also live in relationship is becoming more common in India and any sexual activity before marriage can't be termed as rape unless and until it is not consensual and forcibly done.
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Rajiv Shekhar Bhandari, Presales & Business Development (U.S.), Magic Software Pvt. Ltd.
| 03 04 2010 07:05:27 +0000
How the Delhi Hightcourt says that before marriage sex is case of sex if male refused to married a girl even after engaged with her earlier?? Purely this is the case of foolishness and totaly transparent that both were ready for sex and their is differenr between forced doing sex and both attraction sex. Forced sex is to be legalised against male if he found to be criminal. But how it is possibel to pass a law that before marriage sex is to illigelaised and case of rape. if we go through the example given it they both went to Delhi and stayed at hotel and having phyisical relationship even after engaged but not married. The girl was ready to had a relationship with that guy and it is transparent that guy will also attract with her if girl ready with him. How she do that this is rape. This is pure called a foolish case against the guy. If that girl afraid to made any relationship with that guy, on the other hand guy do forced with her, thenit should be the case against him but if both are ready then what is base of the case. It is totaly opaque and having not sense of words.
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Neeraj Bhandari, Tour Management Executive, Divine Travel Connextions
| 02 27 2010 06:58:43 +0000
The case referred here into is a clear case of consensual sex where both partners were in agreement of intimate relation ship. I think court has taken an emotional view and termed this as a rape which is not true. I would have been happy if this would have been termed as a mental rape ( destroying ones mental status be playing with his / her emotions) and a case should have registered as "provocation that make a person to commit suicide" either IPC 304 or something like that. At the end i appeal to all the persons specially ladies to keep themselves away from these activities and remain safe. Jai Hind
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Santosh Sinha, Freelance Journalist, Free Lancer
| 02 23 2010 18:16:58 +0000
It's breach of trust in case marriage was agreed to between the two - but by definition I'd say rape is a wrong term to use. The sentence apparantly warranted in this case, but not the use of the word 'rape' is my opinion.
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Rajib Bose, Top Mgmt Manager/Sr. Manager, Sigma Consultants P Ltd
| 02 11 2010 13:53:17 +0000
In my view, sex is meant for pleasure between man and woman irrespective of they got married or still unmarried. If both are agreed and having it, then the act cannot be treated as rape. If a man is committing the act of sex with his wife against her willingness, then it can be called as rape. After all, women are well aware the truth that they should not allow the man to have sex with them unless they got married. In that way, woman is to be equally made responsible for the sex act before marriage. And if husband is having sex with his wife against her willingness, then she can go to court and file a case against her husband for his cruelty. Now how many women are ready to file cases against their husband for his inhuman act?
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Bangaru Murali Krishna, Manager - PMC, Ivrcl Infrastructures
| 02 09 2010 19:00:34 +0000
I can only "ditto" the comments of Mr. Jain. Gene Farley
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R. Gene Farley, Offshore Oil & Gas Production Specialist, Danos & Curole
| 02 09 2010 17:03:14 +0000
IN MY OPINION SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE IS NOT RAPE. IF THEY HAD SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE , IT'S MEANS BOTH ARE AGREE. THERE WAS NO ANY FORCE. DUE OF SOME REASON IF A MAN DENIED TO MARRY HER , THIS IS NOT RAPE. THIS IS A BIG MISTAKE IF THEY HAVE SEX BEFORE MARRIAGE.
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Sunil Sharma, Regional Manager Sales
| 02 07 2010 11:22:27 +0000
As per My Judgement sex before marriage is not Rape bq both persons are agree for do sex without any pressure
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sumit mittal, Client Servicing Executive, Kotak life insurance
| 02 06 2010 07:00:27 +0000
If we go through the law we find that sex with even life partner without consent can be treated as rape in books of law. Now if there is a sexual interaction between two major individuals where in consent from either is missing is rape. So this new Definition of Rape - Sex before marriage needs to be reconsidered.
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Prassan Kumar Sharma, Content Writer and Domain Consultant, FREELANCER
| 02 05 2010 22:14:51 +0000
Rape is that which is done forcibly , and here both had consensual sex, i e both agreed to do sex.So it is wrong to state that what happened was a rape.Yes ,the man must be punished for refusing to marry the girl on the ground that she belongs to other caste.Was the man not aware before committing to marry the lady that she belongs to other caste...if that was the reason for not marrying. This is a case of luring and misusing the girl...
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Abhilasha Pathak, Assistant Manager Operations, Reliance General Insurance
| 02 05 2010 18:03:26 +0000
If both are willing,it is not a rape but a fun. Definition, I think should redefined.
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mbhingnekar , Head/VP/GM-Production/Manufacturing, mahagenco,maharashtra
| 02 05 2010 15:55:35 +0000
I think you are right.
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Anil Agarwal, CMD
| 02 05 2010 14:41:46 +0000
I think it is not rape as the girl had sex with her fiance with her willing and not by force. Sex by force and against the will of opposite partner is termed as RAPE. In this case it is not rape & willing sex before marriage is not rape.
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Anil Agarwal, CMD
| 02 05 2010 14:12:15 +0000
Definition of sex and rape are different with each other.We can not joint it both.If a girl do agree to have sex with his boy friend to whom she is going to marriage.Then it is his own personal decision at that time every think is ok….but Due to some reason he is not able to get marry with her…so it should not be consider as rape.....this all episod are their personal matter
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MANISH SEHGAL, HR & ADMIN, Theplacementguru
| 02 05 2010 13:17:15 +0000
Well, sex before marriage can never be termed as rape, excpeting when it is a rape. However, it the present case, if a boy refues to marry someone even after engagement and luring her with explicit promise of marrying her and then abandones her, then the case has to be treated differently. He never had intended to marry her and all those facade of engagement n all was just to defraud her and have sex with her and abuse her trust. The case has to be treated differently but we can't throw baby out with bathwater......
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HASMUKH GANDHI, FILM AND TV PRODUCER, PROFESSIONAL
| 02 05 2010 06:59:08 +0000
when at the of having sex both had consent so how could you say it isa rape
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Thomas D' souza, field coordinator, shanti matri mission
| 02 05 2010 05:27:45 +0000
NOT AT ALL. But yes some sort of case for cheating can be filed as the man has dishonored his commitments. I think the Court / Police should ask the woman that why the complaint has not been filed immidiately after the so called rape..... Praveen
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Praveen varma, Sr Manager, Reliance Industries
| 02 05 2010 03:10:45 +0000
It's obviously concensual sex. But then, the Court wouldn't have given this verdict if there was not sufficient reason to do so. So I would leave it to the wisdom of the Court. There's certainly more to it, Yash if you could look into the verdict once more.
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Azhar Kazmi, Professor, King Fahd University of Petroleum & Minerals
| 02 04 2010 19:06:44 +0000
HC is trying to give an another weapon to victim (????). Poor man may be victimized for no reason; either married or behind the bar..may happen...in INDIA...
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Nitin M Aras, Head/VP/GM-Tech. Support, ODTIN Food Solutions Pvt Ltd
| 02 04 2010 11:45:26 +0000
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