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Created by : Yash Singh, Coresspondent, Star  | 12 24 2009 11:20:01 +0000
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At a time when demands for separate states are raking up much controversy in the country at the moment, the Justice Saghir Ahmed Working Group on Centre-State Relationship has recommended “restoration of autonomy to the extent possible” in the light of the Kashmir Accord reached between late Indira Gandhi and late Sheikh Abdullah.

And has told that "it is for the people of Jammu and Kashmir to decide for how long to continue with Article 370 in its present form and when to make it permanent or abrogate it. The matter being 60-year-old, should be settled once for all" is what the report says.  What do you think on this issue, should autonomy be given for Jammu & Kashmir?

 
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My dear brother when bhutan can survive on its own why not kashmir.and for ur information kashmir is an agricultural state please refer atlas.


By wasim mushtaq, Bad Debts/Workouts Manager, J&K Bank  07 14 2010 15:14:48 +0000
 
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The autonomy is given to a Nation who wants to live on its won. And autonomy means you determine the issues by yourselves and without anybody's help. But in the case of Jammu Kasshmir, this is not the case. The state cannot exist on itsown. It doesn't have a agricultural production that can sustain itself. Nor it has the natural resources where by it can meet the expenses of the nation. The realilty is that the life of the human being will be determined and controlled by the religious fantics. So it isnot the religion that controls the life of a person, instead it is the civil liberty that controls the nation. So the Kashmir should not and will not be indepedant. It is not hte Muslim fantaics who rule the Kashmir, instead the life of human is more important.


By Shibu Kalamparambil Pathrose, Teacher, MES Indian School  07 13 2010 15:30:19 +0000
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my arsenal is empty.. big brother :: i surrender to your brahm astara ::

god bless you bhai " if there is any "


By Ajay Ziz, Dy. Registrar,, University of Jammu  | 07 26 2010 10:52:33 +0000
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FEEL know what FEEL means? My brother Stalin. JUST FEEL FREE; if you feel bound you are  bound slave to that feeling. Look outside to the Beautiful Mother Nature and FEEL with the MOTHER


By Pramod P. Kaimal, Web Site Update, AN ACTUAL TRUE SCHOOL  | 07 26 2010 10:37:35 +0000
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AsalmValaikumVaRehamathulBarkathu, My Dear Brother Zizji. As mentioned prior if one catches a thorny tree and cry saying that the tree had caught you painfully, JUST RELEASE YOUR (repeat YOUR) HOLD and the PAIN is GONE. If you feel enslaved...??? Masalama Pranamam


By Pramod P. Kaimal, Web Site Update, AN ACTUAL TRUE SCHOOL  | 07 26 2010 10:06:27 +0000
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kashmiris do not even consider people from outside the precincts of the srinagar city area as kashmiris ...leave aside pok ,,,

islam is not a problem but an issue & is used as an attention diverter ..deflector !!for gains !!


By Ajay Ziz, Dy. Registrar,, University of Jammu  | 07 26 2010 09:21:04 +0000
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brother .. r u really sure ..kashmiris have sui cidal tendencies ..

or r just playing with numbers as is being done on other side of pir panjal..

if 10 numbers ( dead ) can influence public opinion swings ..numbers can be reproduced anytime ..but history swings are important & shud be effected in time !!just srategic warfare !!


By Ajay Ziz, Dy. Registrar,, University of Jammu  | 07 26 2010 06:46:09 +0000
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brother ..have u studied ..kashmiri people ..social fabric ...etc..

closely ....

or ...just your base is media reports ..


By Ajay Ziz, Dy. Registrar,, University of Jammu  | 07 26 2010 06:13:50 +0000
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kashmiri genome .. mental make up..dialect ..style of even relaxing ..behaviour ..etc.. is totally different from the communities across jawahar tunnel..

psychographical profiling of kashmiris is beyond the domain of psychatrist ( who has read the books ... but practically ill informed ..

at the end of the day ..books r just theory ::


By Ajay Ziz, Dy. Registrar,, University of Jammu  | 07 26 2010 05:33:37 +0000
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landlocked nation are surviving !!

even if kashmir is annexed ( has never been part ofunion )

kashmiri psyche can never be ..

politicians :: army can rule geographical spaces ..but not the collective minds of kashmiris !!


By Ajay Ziz, Dy. Registrar,, University of Jammu  | 07 26 2010 03:35:47 +0000
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Sorry all, Incase Kashmir becomes independent which is unlikely, the then scenario will be that you have lost a big brother who protects you...history will remain history and we can't just stick to it ........look further in future....what does it has ........its upon each Kashmiri individual to see what they wants....religious thoughts or progress with their own elected people ...Problem of Kashmir will never be resolved if kashmiris which are hindus and Muslims do not change thier mind set......just ready steady and go.................... no political talks will ever resolve the issue....only every kashmiri person have to change thier own destiny....for me all states are dear to me.... love you all....I am proud to be an Indian and lucky i was born here...
By Satinder Satsangi, System Manager (Group), Raj Kumar Goel Group of Institutions  | 07 15 2010 08:22:35 +0000
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wasim sadiq has practical view of things !!
By Ajay Ziz, Dy. Registrar,, University of Jammu  | 07 15 2010 06:22:49 +0000
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Kashmir is an part of India. Pakistan has occupied a part of it called POK. This problem should be solved by India along. Because pakistan is only interested in making an issue out of it pakistan is a failed state it will not be of any use in solving any problems.
By Shashi Kumar U, Manager accounts & commercial, Mazda Concrete Products Pvt Ltd  | 07 15 2010 03:52:14 +0000
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why???????? should not india fulfill its promise


By wasim mushtaq, Bad Debts/Workouts Manager, J&K Bank  | 07 14 2010 15:27:28 +0000
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yes brother i support ur argument

 


By wasim mushtaq, Bad Debts/Workouts Manager, J&K Bank  | 07 14 2010 15:25:48 +0000
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sarika ji pandits are our brothers we have always maintaned communal harmony,we welcome them if they want to come back,well kashmir issue is a problem which india must solve by giving us freedom which is our right,plz go through the history of kashmir


By wasim mushtaq, Bad Debts/Workouts Manager, J&K Bank  | 07 14 2010 15:23:52 +0000
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my dear brother kashmir is not a religious issue.y to target islam or muslims.we r proud to be muslims,kashmir is neither part of india nor pakistan.what we want is freedom.as promised by india u must go through history of kashmir god bless u

 


By wasim mushtaq, Bad Debts/Workouts Manager, J&K Bank  | 07 14 2010 15:19:21 +0000
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every kashmiri wants freedom as promised by india.india must fulfill its promise in nutshell


By wasim mushtaq, Bad Debts/Workouts Manager, J&K Bank  | 07 14 2010 15:11:02 +0000
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this is very much debatable topic for me no as it will create the anarchy in the state and people will get more effected
By prateek santoshq, Senior engineer, Nokia Siemens Network Pvt Ltd  | 07 13 2010 17:20:29 +0000
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i am agree .


By abhishek misra, Freelancer, Radio, TV & Films  | 07 13 2010 14:58:02 +0000
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Instead of spending money in the polls for selecting the government, there should be a poll for this and let the people of kashmir decide their faith.
By Aditya Kumar, Project Leader/Managing Consultant, Wipro  | 07 12 2010 16:48:32 +0000
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I think yes it will lead to strengthening relations between J & K and the Centre which deliberated on matters relating to the special status of the border state within the Indian Union, so in a way it will strengthen the democracy, secularism and the rule of law in the state.


By Yash Singh, Coresspondent, Star  | 12 24 2009 11:20:01 +0000
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i am no moslem . brother .so out of my grasp..this rocket science .


By Ajay Ziz, Dy. Registrar,, University of Jammu  | 07 26 2010 10:19:01 +0000
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The only solution of the Kashmir problem to get the area illegally occupied by Pakistan re-occupied and be merged as a State within Indian territory. When Kashmiris shall become in more strength then taking the benefit of democracy they may permanently rule Kashmir and this problem shall be solved for ever. Kashmir was part of Bharat, is of Bharat and shall remain as an integral part and no force of the world can change this settled issue.


By Raj Kumar Makkad, Private Attorney/Lawyer, makkad & Co.  | 07 26 2010 08:40:59 +0000
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i value ur bubblingly thoughts ..immensely ...capturing & deceptively "" engaging "

but brother here the ""roman coin has king lui xxx on both sides ""


By Ajay Ziz, Dy. Registrar,, University of Jammu  | 07 26 2010 08:26:36 +0000
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MY dear Brother Ajay (jay is win, ajay is beyond win) StALIN (a communist rushian name) ZIZji, you have not got what i was pointing to; when somebody extends a coin towards you and you turn your head to look only at the heads knowing that the tails too exist BUT declare that ONLY heads exist because you see only HEADs; IT is such ATTITUDE AND LINE OF thinking THINKING that was being pointed to (NOT the actual deaths taking place). THAT THINKING that I AM NOT FREE, I am BOUND by,,,india,,, is very same to a man thinking of suicide, getting drunk, smoking cigarette.... THE FREE THOUGHT PROCESS is what is being pointed to. I am busy at work now so cannot type long detailed messages  but cryptic short bursts of THOUGHTS. pramodkaimal@gmail.com / yahoo.co.in could be used for.....CHAT? i am surrendered (in ARABIC ISLAM) to in the ABSOLUTE (in Arabic ALLAH, in Sanskrit BRAHMAN) PRANAM (salutation... MaSalama) bye Namaste (Greeting ISALAM Valiakum in Arabic, Good day in English)


By Pramod P. Kaimal, Web Site Update, AN ACTUAL TRUE SCHOOL  | 07 26 2010 08:01:28 +0000
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Again dear brother Brother Ajay Stalin Ziz, Dy. Registrar,, University of Jammu, what has Media report to do with suicidal tendency in Human.Of the two choices available to a Human animal (Suicidal and Laughter) asking for separate selfish for oneself (state or autonomy) is suicidal and joining together and enjoy given life is cheerful. You make your free will choice just as a cigarette smoker drunkard makes a choice same way as a good fruit eater makes one. Cigarette smoking in Injurious to health Universally to both the smoker and around; lets joint together and take live happily together. do read my previous observations too please


By Pramod P. Kaimal, Web Site Update, AN ACTUAL TRUE SCHOOL  | 07 26 2010 06:32:06 +0000
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Brother Ajay Stalin Ziz, Dy. Registrar,, University of Jammu suicide is psychiatric any where and no sane HUMAN will support it; though among animals human alone can think and feel suicidal; laughter is also unique to Humans. Chose to be chearful my brother not suicidal. Peace be to you


By Pramod P. Kaimal, Web Site Update, AN ACTUAL TRUE SCHOOL  | 07 26 2010 06:08:02 +0000
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giving autonomy to kashmir will complicate the matter coz it will separate it from india and the India's fight for unity with kashmir for last several years will prove futile and the sufferes will be the residents of J&k
By sumita , BUSINESS MANAGER, IELTS  | 07 26 2010 05:27:19 +0000
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Are not Human (Genes) related to land of Birth, especially the individual characteristics.Bharatiya Subcontinent has its specific characteristic that is distinct. Because some human can think suicide doesn't mean all agree to it and allow. They asking for separate identity need to be treated psychiatric-ally

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By Pramod P. Kaimal, Web Site Update, AN ACTUAL TRUE SCHOOL  | 07 26 2010 05:26:06 +0000
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No autonomy to be given to J&K, because it will only complicate matters. The current situation in J&K itself is a matter of great concern. I am of the view that autonomy will only make all the more difficult.
By Shashi Kumar U, Manager accounts & commercial, Mazda Concrete Products Pvt Ltd  | 07 26 2010 05:11:10 +0000
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Jammu & Kashmir is the land of Vedas and Kalhan. Merely change of religion by maximum sons of land is not change to forefathers and so sons of land of J & K cannot be permitted to demand separate land than of their forefathers so the recommendation of justice is entirely against history and geography.


By Raj Kumar Makkad, Private Attorney/Lawyer, makkad & Co.  | 07 26 2010 03:29:46 +0000
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ONE WHO CLINGS ON TO A THORNY TREE AND CLAIM THAT THE TREE IS HOLDING THE PERSON (man or woman) is pretending; You can awaken a sleeping human but not a human hypocrit pretending to sleep. If you imposter children of mother Bharath pretend not to be free as we are in free Bharath GO TO MAD HOUSE ARABIA TO FEEL FREE. YOU ARE right it is not muslim or hindu KASHMIRI BUT.. look deepter ANd NOTE THE arabic cultured so called 'MUSLIMS' who are BAYING FOR MOTHER BHARATH'S POUND OF FLESH AND BLOOD


By Pramod P. Kaimal, Web Site Update, AN ACTUAL TRUE SCHOOL  | 07 25 2010 16:31:13 +0000
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Promise? to scoundrells thieves thugs killers; as Jinhaits were BUTCHERING HINDUS. scoundrels threatenning that if BOOTY IS NOT HANDED OVER, THEY(ARABIC THUGRY CULTURED IMPOTER CHILDREN0 WILL GO ON KILLING MOTHER BHARATHS TRUE CHILDREN. GO GO TO YOUR ARABIC ROOTS MR WASIM MUSTAQ AND PRAY 5 TIMES, AS TRUE CHILDREN MEDITATE AT EVERY BREATH MOMENT IN TRUE BHARATH


By Pramod P. Kaimal, Web Site Update, AN ACTUAL TRUE SCHOOL  | 07 25 2010 16:20:55 +0000
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Remember the Parable of judge ordering a child to be halved between two quarelling women as what this MUSLIM arabic cultured judge has decreed as what an arabic culture had Christ crucified. a child or "mother cannot be halved to a true child", so MOTHER BHARATH CANNOT BE CUT, the imposter child can go to its Arabic roots by all means and Arabia is just well spaced area for all rootless Arabic cultured whether KASHMIRI OR PALASTINIAN TO BE WELL ACCOMODATED but may be as second or third class citizens.peace be to them


By Pramod P. Kaimal, Web Site Update, AN ACTUAL TRUE SCHOOL  | 07 25 2010 16:08:33 +0000
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Bhutan has never been a part of India and Kashmir cannot be equatted with it. Kashmir is an integral part of Bharat and shall remain till this erth remains.


By Raj Kumar Makkad, Private Attorney/Lawyer, makkad & Co.  | 07 25 2010 11:16:28 +0000
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It is very dangerous recommendation of Justice Sagir Ahmad Committee to provide "maximum autonomy" to J & K. Kashmir is an integral part of Bharat without which the existance of Bharat cannot be thought of. Article 370 should be abolished at once so that J & K may also become as one of normal states of Bharat.


By Raj Kumar Makkad, Private Attorney/Lawyer, makkad & Co.  | 07 25 2010 11:14:34 +0000
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Pakistan tried to impose a military solution on J&K yet again in 1965, by instigating a war against India. The people of J&K resisted this new invasion.  Pakistan's failure to impose this military solution and the efforts of the people of J&K to thwart the aims and designs of the Pakistani invaders are well documented. 

In a diverse country like India, disaffection and discontent are not uncommon.  Indian democracy has the necessary resilience to accommodate genuine grievances within the framework of our sovereignty, unity and integrity. Government of India has expressed its willingness to accommodate the legitimate political demands of the people of the state of J&K.  However, Pakistan sponsored terrorists have terrorised the population and hindered political dialogue by intimidating or silencing voices of moderation that wish to engage in dialogue. The human rights of the people of J&K have been systematically violated by such terror tactics and the kidnappings and killings of innocent people by terrorists. 

The abve information is collected information.

The reason for sharing the same with all is simple. If India leaves kashmir, Kashmir will be doomed and will be taken over by pakistan. Its because of the fear of their invasion that kashmir come to India.

Kashmir is part of INDIA and will remain so, forever.

Regards

Kiran


By Kiran Nair, Head/VP/GM-HR, Petrochemical  | 07 15 2010 07:03:13 +0000
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Dear all

After rumours that the Maharaja was for the union with India, Muslim revolutionaries from western Kashmir and Pakistani tribesmen made rapid advances into the Baramulla sector. Maharaja Hari Singh of Kashmir asked the government of India to intervene, However, India and Pakistan had signed an agreement of non-intervention (maintenance of the status quo in Jammu and Kashmir.) Although tribal fighters from Pakistan had entered Jammu and Kashmir, there was no iron-clad legal evidence to unequivocally prove that Pakistan was officially involved. It would have been illegal for India to unilaterally intervene in an open, official capacity unless Jammu and Kashmir officially joined the Union of India, at which point it would be possible to send in its forces and occupy the remaining parts.

The Maharaja desperately needed military assistance when the Pathan tribals reached the outskirts of Srinagar. Before their arrival into Srinagar, India argued that Maharaja Hari Singh must complete negotiations for acceding Jammu and Kashmir to India in exchange for receiving military aid. The agreement which ceded Jammu and Kashmir to India was signed by the Maharaja and Lord Mountbatten of Burma.

The Accession of the state of Jammu and Kashmir to India, signed by the Maharaja (erstwhile ruler of the State) on 26th October, 1947, was completely valid in terms of the Government of India Act (1935), Indian Independence Act (1947) and international law and was total and irrevocable.  The Accession was also supported by the largest political party in the state, the National Conference.  In the Indian Independence Act, there was no provision for any conditional accession.  The Instrument of Accession executed by the Maharaja was the same as the ones executed by over 500 princely states in India.  There has been no complication in any of the other cases.  There would have been none in this case either, except for Pakistan's action in sending in tribal invaders first (in October 1947) and its own regular troops later (May 1948).

 

India made a reference to the United Nations on 1st January 1948 under Article 35 of the Charter, which permits any member state to bring any situation, whose continuance is likely to endanger international peace and security, to the attention of the Security Council.  The intention behind this reference was to prevent a war between the two newly independent countries, which would have become increasingly likely if the tribal invaders assisted first indirectly and then actively by the Pakistan army had persisted with their actions against India in Kashmir.  The Government of India requested the Security Council "to put an end immediately to the giving of such assistance which was an act of aggression against India”.  


By Kiran Nair, Head/VP/GM-HR, Petrochemical  | 07 15 2010 07:01:06 +0000
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Kashmir should be part of India. Pakistan is creating the issue in order to save herself in her own country. Emotional issues can overtake real issues and that is exactly what is happening.
By Srinivasa Varrey, Sr Architect, Peak Technologies  | 07 14 2010 15:31:09 +0000
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Autonomy should be felt within, HUMAN ARE BORN FREE. If crooked half baked muslims imagine that they have caught a tree the tree and the TREE is not leaving them, and because the imaginary tree is thorny their holding the tree tighter makes the TREE hold them tighter and more painful; unless the Senseless people claiming themselves to be following ISLAM (Absolute Surrender) so are Muslims; drop their IMAGINATION of being CAPTIVE nothing on this EARTH Can satisfy them. You can awaken a man who is asleep but not a man who is pretending to be asleep.Just be INDIFFERENT evolution will wake them.


By Pramod P. Kaimal, Web Site Update, AN ACTUAL TRUE SCHOOL  | 07 14 2010 10:48:31 +0000
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No not at all!!!due to this the situation will be slipped at the hand of Indian govt.First of all intellectual people must to go and talk with local citizens and try to resolve with supporting word.
By Arunabh Kumar, Operations & Maintenance Engineer, Nokia Siemens Network  | 07 13 2010 17:23:50 +0000
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There is no point giving autonomy to J&K. All efforts should be made and all steps should be taken to merge the state completely into main stream.


By Arinjay Kumar, Administration, BSF  | 07 12 2010 13:44:44 +0000
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How can we give them autonomy? Already that state is creating so much problems in spite of being ruled by the central government. Giving them autonomy would mean creation of more problems. They will pay taxes to their state government and that only will run the state. Moreover the "Pundit"  problems will increase since the religious fanatics will get more power to torture them. Kashmir government is not eligible enough to deal with terrorism, will we give them autonomy in that too? If not, then why should we take tax for that and what kind of state it will be which won't be in contact with the capital? In that case, it won't be less than any separate country just taking military support from India and not even paying tax for that...


By Sarika Singh, Assistant Professor, BIT  | 12 24 2009 12:26:04 +0000
 
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