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Created by : Jyoti Rath, Sr. Associate, Barclays  | 10 06 2009 10:26:58 +0000
Industry : Equity Research/AnalyticsFunctional Area : India(Markets)
Activity:  598 views;  last activity : 07 06 2010 20:18:09 +0000

Assocham recently suggested the trustees of the Employee's Provident Fund Organisation (EPFO) to favourably consider the Finance Ministry's recommendation to invest about 5 per cent of its corpus in capital markets.

The time has now come for the Central Board of Trustees (CBT) under the ministry of Labour to honour the recommendation of the Finance Ministry for nearly 5 per cent EPFO fund channelisation in indices-based investment strategy in equities. But then with all the fluctuations that one sees in the market don't you think this is a risky move keeping in mind that the money that they are investing is from the PF of employees.

The Employees Provident Fund Organisation (EPFO), which has a large corpus of about Rs 2.60 lakh crore has been paying aroiund 8 per cent interest to its subscribers.  So what do you think guys should EPFO be allowed to invest in the capital markets? Share your views people.

 
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I think EPFO the employees provident fund should allow and they are just investing only 5 % from its reserves, and earlier partly from its reserves they were hardly earning reasonable returns on its investments in government securities and bonds to sustain its operations effectively and profitably for future. And since the RBI and SEBI jointly keep strong watch on stock market fluctuations, it is highly unlikely that investors especially like EPFO could loose money in indices linked equities.  So it would be wise to invest in capital market, when US PF funds are heading towards Indian investment market why not EPFO.


By Jyoti Rath, Sr. Associate, Barclays  10 06 2009 10:32:44 +0000
 
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ni, am not in support for the same.person woking govt sec,below grade dosent have the knowledge of the market.they just know after retirement they will get get handsome amt of pf and gratutiy.he had dreams get married his daughter,sons education,house.w amrket conditons is worst,so it is not advisibe to invest pf amt in captial market.but there should be option while employee withdrawing pf whether he should go for investment or not.he should be given proper guidance abt his money where is invested or not


By pravin baile, Area Sales Manager, forbes infotainment ltd  10 06 2009 11:28:36 +0000
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The earning potential is substantially higher if invested in stock market with only rider of efficient and effective mechanism for accountability of the fund manager and at the same time vesting of necessary authority in  him to take timely and effective decisions of course within the broader framework and guidelines. The guard also has to provided for collusive transactions!


By Satish Chandra Tripathi, Admin/Facilities Manager, Indian Air Force  | 10 09 2009 14:37:23 +0000
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Yes, but with some riders, assuming that the aam-aadmi is having a risk appetite of 5% of his PF.  The govt machinery/bureaucrats make moves only if they get some incentives for there "regular work".  They are least worried about the aam-aadmi & his hard earned money.   The investment/portfolio manager must be taking a joint ownership for incurred profits and losses as well.  He should be allowed to do investments with stop loss which must be equal to his future 3-5 years salary+ PF. The review period must be defined.  The profit/loss must be shared on this/predefined rates/basis.  This shall help bureaucrat to achieve there extra income and will help aam-aadmi to earn bit extra on there lifetime savings.  Of course extreme conditions for profit/loss should be well formulated and considered.  The idea can be refined further.


By Nilesh Jain, Project Manager, A Leading Media/Telecom Co.  | 10 07 2009 07:15:04 +0000
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EPF money can be invested in equities after taking approval from EPF members and before investing in equities EPF trusties have to disclose the method of distributing the returns from the equities.


By Ramakrishna Perumal, Electrical Specialist Engineer,  | 10 06 2009 13:19:50 +0000
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A country needs capital formation which primarily comes from savings.    This savings  should get invested for further wealth creation activities and productive purposes.   The corpurs available in the EPF invested with pure intent of wealth creation in the market equities would have multiple benefits:  boost the economy, create more employment opportunities, uplift the standard of living, and many such other.   If we have a well regulated market, controlled effectively and prudently by the powers that be, no inhibition be harboured.   It is a good step; a step in the right direction. 


By T S Jyothiram, CFO, Pacetel Communications  | 10 06 2009 12:30:00 +0000
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Yes i believe that the EPFO must be allowed to invest in the capital markets upto 5%..

In developed countries the PF and the Pention funds invests heavily into the capital markets, so 5% in Indian Markets is ok.

Also i look it the other way, as 5% of corpus will be around 10-15 lack crores, if these funds are invested in our markets then this will help to stabilize the markets and also then with LIC, EPFO, Private Insurance Companies, AMCs, FIs, we will have healthy domestic investors and in long run the impact of the FII can be neuteralised...


By Japan Shah, H.O.D, Oxford School of Management  | 10 06 2009 11:41:34 +0000
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in my opinion..while filling EPF form there should be an option that which percentage of money employee wanna invest in different funds, govt. sec etc . If an employee wanna take high risk and high returns then equity is best. if he wanna balanced investment then 50-50 ratio in equity and govt sec and so on....

Switching of funds option is also required for the employee , if he wanna change in risk factor.


By Rajesh Khanna, Accounts Manager  | 10 06 2009 11:02:56 +0000
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pf money is only way of saving during rainy period of life .therefore ;each citizen must have right to get back with safe return and thus why not allowed.


By SHASHI BHUSHAN TIWARI, SR.ENGINEER, Jubilant Organosys  | 10 27 2009 19:13:10 +0000
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I think the provident fund's money is "Aam Adami Money" so, it should be manage in a batter way rather than invest in capital market. I agree that 5% is not much but still in equity market you gain great margins only when you invest for the long period of time so, if you see the secnario there are no. of PF. Savers who invest their money only for  the saving purpose and somewhere down the line it also help in retirement age. so, it should be mannaged in a batter manner. 


By Ankit Gandhi, MBA student, Omegan School of Business  | 10 07 2009 07:08:57 +0000
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No in the country like India where we have good growth and especially better interest rates..then other countries across the globe. The aam admi,s money should not be put into capital market...

What is followed in west need not always be the right way...and  Employee Provident Fund  money should be managed with prudence... 

 


By suchita Ambardekar, Director on Board, Vir Rubber Products Pvt Ltd, Vir auto enterprises Pvt Ltd  | 10 07 2009 05:53:41 +0000
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the propoerty of employees shall not be invested in capital market as there is huge volatility for which the employee shall be made scape goat


By MAJETY CHANDRA SHEKHAR, Construction-Residential, SINDHU INFRATECH  | 10 07 2009 03:08:11 +0000
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