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Created by : Ayan Choudhury, Sr/Principal Corespondent, Leading media House  | 07 03 2010 07:00:34 +0000
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In a recent news, All India Jat Mahasabha wants marriageable age of girls and boys to be lowered to 15 and 17 respectively so that couples don't elope and marry against the wishes of their families. According to Om Prakash Mann, Haryana president of All India Jat Mahasabha, the demand will be discussed at a sarv khap panchayat on July 17 at Meham Chaubisi Chabutara in Rohtak. The demand was raised at a meeting of khap representatives at Dhanana village.

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The panchayat will be attended by representatives of around 600 khaps of all castes and communities, including Jats, Rajputs, Sainis, Gujjars and Dhanaks. The Khap Panchayats says that by getting them married at young age, they can be stopped from eloping and marrying against their parent's wish and thus becoming victim of honour killing. He refused to comment on early marriage posing a hurdle to the education of girls and said, he is only concerned about young people getting killed by their families.

So users, should girl's marriageable be lowered to 15?

 
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Hindu girls cannot decide to do whatever they feel like. They must follow the orders of the men of the family , otherwise they bring shame to us and she must face the consequences.


By Prateek Singh Rathore, Actuary Manager, Tata Aig Insurance Solutions  07 03 2010 07:28:13 +0000
 
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More I hear this more I tend to agree with the view point that north-west of India is truley a place of backward people. Unfortunately Indian politcs is controlled by them. Thats why India is still so backwards. All our economic progress will be for naught and world will not take us seriously unless can control this peoplr and bring these regions under civilized rule of law. Otherwise India will always be compared with all the failed third world nations. The community should think of educating a girl child rather to make her a baby bearing woman at a tender age when she is not even fully prepared to look after herself. A hopeless idea!


By Ayan Choudhury, Sr/Principal Corespondent, Leading media House  07 03 2010 07:00:34 +0000
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No.... Please be a human.
By Apurv Bhagat, Project Executive IT, Fairfest Media Limited  | 01 21 2011 07:18:16 +0000
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Marriage is very personal thing..........It is between two people .........than between two families.........than society..........than state ...........than country..........marriage shall be arranged by the family in consent with their children................no body else shall interfere.........mother and father always thinks best for their children...............


By Yogendra Singh Chauhan, Civil Engineer-Highway Roadway, AECOM  | 08 20 2010 05:17:07 +0000
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No, this should not be happen atleast in India.
By Rohit Saboo, CA student, ICAI+CFA candidate  | 07 15 2010 17:51:49 +0000
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who is the person started this debet.. dont even know in which world he is living ..this is the advanced world and u thinking of the world which is ended back before 1000 of years ................
By mohan reddy, B.Tech/B.E. student, vidya jothi institute of technology  | 07 05 2010 19:23:34 +0000
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that is the child abuse. u are abusing the right of the child through early marriage. A case study of a former governor of zamfara in nigeria in person of Alhaji yerima now a serving senator got married to a thirteen (13)years old Egyptian.My question is what does a 13-15years old girl knows about marriage?The issue of early marriage should be look into in developing countries
By ojerumu ernest, Head, Client Service/Production, Michael Burnet Services  | 07 05 2010 14:10:03 +0000
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i beg to differ with mr.rathore.before passing such a biased and backward comment,please pause for a momet an think how wud u feel if you were forced to lead such a lifestyle as you want the women to lead?its a shanme to see men like youin the 21st century spcly when the world has moved so forward.plz cure ur backward mentality and learn to grow with the times.
By Nitya Ramachandran, Recruitment Trainee, Mindpower Consulting  | 07 05 2010 10:41:04 +0000
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NO.. A BIG NO... Discussion on this topic is in bad taste.. sorry
By Suryanarayan Murthy, Asst Vice President (Corporate Finance), A Hydro Power Project  | 01 21 2011 05:50:07 +0000
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I dont agree with this as girls are not fit, mentally as well as physically.


By Minhaz Khan, Safety Assurance Officer - GMR DIAL  | 08 20 2010 07:28:03 +0000
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Naushad sir you are really knows philosophy & literature

 


By rahul p rinayat, Software Developer, Geometric Solution  | 08 19 2010 13:30:36 +0000
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I fully agree with you George Sir..


By Dr.G.S.Rama Rao, Freelancer  | 08 18 2010 10:32:29 +0000
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NO ...

IT IS LIKE ASKING... SHOULD INDIA GO BACK TO THE 18TH CENTURY ?

For once, let us grow up & stop childish & medieval practices. The Girl Child has just started breathing... AND ... We want to scuffle Her throat ?

Let HER Mature, let HER Bloom, let HER get Educated, let HER be ready for the World... THEN & ONLY THEN MARRY HER.

PERIOD ...


By Naushad H.L., Creative Director, MAD COMMUNICATION  | 08 17 2010 04:56:35 +0000
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This is a sound we thought will never hear again, We have to educate a girl before she is starting her motherhood. She should be academically qualified to earn her means. I do not want to write more, it can go lengthy to a book. So let us not to think of it.   


By George Varghese, Proprietor, Jecyees  | 08 16 2010 13:00:52 +0000
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No, not at all. What is the rational behind this thought? Physically and mentally,at the age of 15, a girl is not matured and therefore this thought is not acceptable.
By Suresh Prasad Gupta, Freelancer, Pharmaceuticals  | 07 20 2010 13:22:50 +0000
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NO DIFFERENCE WHETHER MARRIAGEABLE AGE IS LOWERED TO 15 OR RAISED TO 50 YEARS

Unless there is any mechanism to spread the knowledge amongst the common people, specifically the rural India and illiterate urban people, you cannot expect implementation of the legal provisions of marriageable age for girls or boys. Even the media does not help in spreading such knowledge of the law of the land amongst the people of India. As a matter of business profit policy, the media tries to telecast even a single spicy story of a few minutes repeatedly by taking even hours together in a single day or even that is spilled over to next day also.

If a survey is made we can find even more than 99% people of India (even the most literate persons) are totally ignorant about even some of the most common legal provisions. In fact, the knowledge of law remains restricted to mostly the books, judges, police and lawyers. A common man comes to know only when he or she is trapped under some legal provision.

So, it is useless to create or expand a jungle of law to get the knowledge dumped in to the Acts of Law in the absence of an effective mechanism to spread the knowledge. Actually, there is the need to spread knowledge of the existing law rather than creating or expanding a jungle of law and vest police more and more powers to torture a common man. We can expect people to be law abiding citizens only when knowledge is properly spread at every nook and corner of the country.


By PS Dhingra, CEO & Vigilance & Transformation Management Consultant, Dhingra Group of Management & Educational Consultants  | 07 20 2010 12:06:30 +0000
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Pls dont blame the country for the mishaps happening in marriage, its people and the attitude of the society that forces young adults to elope and marry of their choice when they find that they have to part with whom they love most! Definitely such laws would cause more havoc in society and should never be allowed in India...


By Shree Dhanya BK, Client Servicing/Key Account Manager, Ikya Human Capital Solutions  | 07 20 2010 11:24:09 +0000
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Thinking in terms of reducing the age of  eligibility of the girl is in itself  a retrograde   idea.  One should clearly understand the reason,science,philosophy etc etc in fixing the age at 18.  Legality is one thing.  Physical, mental & psychological  maturity  is very very..... important.   There is no hurry.  Girl can comfortably wait till 18.  


By Dr.G.S.Rama Rao, Freelancer  | 07 20 2010 10:55:44 +0000
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i agree with mohan reddy who is the person who started this debate?
By CA Heena Sharma, Chartered Accountant  | 07 15 2010 18:54:03 +0000
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No, the age should be at least 21. Then only they will have the proper maturity to understand the life and how to run the family & other things. The age 15 is not at all suitable.

 


By NATTERAJA R. ARIKRISHNAN, GM-Projects, Bentec Electricals & Electronics Pvt. Ltd  | 07 15 2010 18:15:04 +0000
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As per the neo classical growth in economics, the growth depends on the oppurtunity cost of women of having a children. If the marriage age is reduced to 15, there will be more population and at the mean time, children is a great responsibility for wich a girl of 15 yrs of age is not too much matured. so i m against it
By Rohit Saboo, CA student, ICAI+CFA candidate  | 07 15 2010 18:00:58 +0000
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wat.....hu has started dis debate??.....k dere are some ppl in india hu r v narrow minded n don't allow deir girls 2 study....as dey r completely against it n dey want deir daughters 2 get married n get settled.....bt i think ppl hu live in urban areas hav nt devlped diz kind f thinking....n itz v shocking 2 see dat 8 ppl r saying yes....hello...let dem study...let dem make deir own identity...m sry but dere is no point of raising this debate.....
By lilangel , student, university  | 07 15 2010 17:58:42 +0000
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No, tis should not happen. Coz in t age of 15-17 boy or girl even can't think bout right & wrong


By Amit Ramji Mahakulkar, B.Tech/B.E. student, JDIET  | 07 15 2010 17:23:50 +0000
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The average age at marriage has risen in most industrial countries. Even countries with less development, or who have come lately to industrialization show a rise in the average age at marriage for women. These statistics may reflect a greater feminist stance in most countries, with more women working and completing college.Marriage, its purpose and meaning are defined by the individual.parents whose mind set think girl as a liability , marry them off quickly.The rising age of marriage contributes to family welfare,planning,better education for us.for gals,it decreases widowhood,maternal deaths  . for country it decreases population growth rate!!! historical background and several factors contribute to still existing child marriage in india. education, urbanization,legislation,social reform movement should put stop to child marriage. being child is best part of life,do not kill it in name of honour,selfish,ego,liability n marriage


By Rajapandian , Business Development Manager, Grene Studio  | 07 08 2010 07:57:09 +0000
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Prateek I was not aware that Hindu girls are slaves. The days of slavery has been abolised a long time ago before you and I was born. In this modern society will women really follow the orders of men? I don't think so. Who says Hindu girls do whatever they feel like? If they are brought up properly and are aware of their values, will they still go astray?


By Devi Kaladeen, Audit Manager, Health Sector Development Unit  | 07 07 2010 19:26:49 +0000
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Age 15 is still a child as far as I am concerned. Parents who  agree to this whether in or out of India are definitely illiterate and should educate themselves about the facts of life. Sad to say that this type of thing still happens in other parts of the world where Indians have settlled.


By Devi Kaladeen, Audit Manager, Health Sector Development Unit  | 07 07 2010 19:15:12 +0000
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Big NO. It should be around 20 years. 


By malladi madhukumar, AGM -MKTG, Andhra Cements Ltd  | 07 07 2010 17:13:20 +0000
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MARRIAGE AT SUCH EARLY AGE DEPRIVES THEM OF BARE MINIMUM EDUCATION AND THE WAY WORLD PROGRESSES, WITH SUCH LOW LEVELS OF LITERACY THEY WILL BE A BURDEN NOT ONLY TO THEIR FAMILIES BUT ALSO TO OUR COUNTRY.LET US GUIDE THEM IN THE RIGHT SO THAT THE FUTURE INDIA IS MUCH STRONGER.


By s.baalu , Consultant, XYZ LTD  | 07 07 2010 13:41:42 +0000
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Obviously Not. How can you think, she is child. mind is not develop to understand conditions after marriage.
By Vijay Nimkarde, Software Developer, Epicomm technology  | 07 05 2010 14:34:56 +0000
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Do we really need a debate on this topic. 15 year girl is a child........so no,no,no.
By Brij Kishor Mishra, Product Specialist at Alcon Laboratories India Pvt Ltd.  | 07 05 2010 13:22:11 +0000
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agreed with ravinder singh, but mr. rathore where it is written in hindu act or any book that hindu girls cant decide wht they want..not only hindu other religions also will not support this...where are u peoples standing...come on mammu...
By SUMIT TRIPATHI, Project Architect, Larsen & Toubro Limited  | 07 05 2010 10:59:59 +0000
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As life science suggests that maturity level of a girl reach height after 18 years of age... we must avoid to force them to indulge in social life in early stage.
By Ravindra Singh, Recruitment Consultant, ACH Management Consultants Pvt Ltd  | 07 05 2010 09:34:31 +0000
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Only people who are ant feminist will think of doing such henious task

 


By Nikhil , Senior Manager, Insurance  | 07 05 2010 07:06:35 +0000
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Rather it should be increased to 21 so that the families are left little but no option to ensure a minimum of college eductaion for the Girls of the nation and also so that there is a sufficient level of maturity to help the girl in her marrid life.
By Smita Mohta Agarwal, Senior Associate, Link Legal Advocates  | 07 05 2010 07:06:18 +0000
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This idea takes us to medieval age. Still some people fail to understand that caste, creed, sati, child widow and child marriage have no relevance in the modern society. By creating such misconceptions these people, disobey the universal principle mentioned by Krishna. He first mentioned the professionalism in life according to one’s nature and never say it as a hereditary property of human being. I request all my brother and sisters to fallow the science of Gita, educate the children in both science and morality, our true culture than thinking of lowering age limit. It is like creating another problem to solve the present problem of the region.

 


By Santosh Kumar Mohanty, Civil Engineer-Municipal, Sambalpur University  | 07 05 2010 05:26:12 +0000
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I support your views Ms.Ayan Choudhury.

I couldn't support the age for marriages.


By NATTERAJA R. ARIKRISHNAN, GM-Projects, Bentec Electricals & Electronics Pvt. Ltd  | 07 04 2010 15:48:09 +0000
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All such views, incidents of Honor Killings, Sati  etc. come from North (of) India ... cant understand why ?

The "fudal system" of society is yet prevailing there .. the male domination.

 So many intellectuals, freelancers, KPO/ BPO employees, political leaders, Bourocrats, Insurance Agents, CEOs etc have migrated to towns/ cities leaving their villages static and home of 'vested interests'. 

It is the high time that we, all take steps to correct the position when we visit our villages.

All bad and lame excuses have been placed for lowering marriage age. May not never be concede. The age should be increased instead.

Our bloggers here have posted below reasons why such demand may not be agreeable.


By ASOKE KUSARI, Domestic Private Banking-Executive/Manager, A large leading PSU Bank - India  | 07 04 2010 14:44:03 +0000
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I agree with Ayan's views.


By Sachin Kumar, Legal Adviser  | 07 04 2010 14:24:46 +0000
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i support Ayan,civil society makes the nation.The wide spread education is only tool to deal with such dictates.


By Mohammad Bakhsh, Project Leader/Managing Consultant, Freelancer  | 07 04 2010 04:12:27 +0000
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Hi Archana, well said and I am really appreciting your whole statement. I cant under stand till now wt all these means and how barbaric these punishmnets. Is it better to spend the life in jail than to allow the daughters or sisters or brothers to live with the one they likes..


By Manoj Kumar, Sr: Manager - QA, ARCHETYPE GROUP, INDIA  | 07 04 2010 02:56:49 +0000
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The girl becomes mature physcially and mentally around 18 to 21 and hence age should be kept at 21 only to give fair chance to females to decide and live happily thereafter.


By HASMUKH NANDLAL SHAH, ADVOCATE, Legal - Head, PITTIE GROUP OF COMPANIES  | 07 03 2010 13:05:02 +0000
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Alas, it is against Raja Ram Mohan Roy's vision to ban marriage at Childhood. By lowering the age to 15,

Firstly, their education is spoiled

Secondly, they are not mentally developed to the present India's development

Thirdly, it indirectly, explodes population

Fourthly, it is something like child labor (bonded labor)

Fifthly, it is a social evils

Sixthly, our North Indians' are moving backwards to cave-living

Seventh, against present law. All human resource going to dunk yard.

Eight, elders of the community need to change themselves to the requirement but  not  lowering age.

By hearing all these kind of news, I feel that I am among Andaman tribes.


By KALIYAMOORTHY , Oil & Gas Area Coordinator, Undisclosed  | 07 03 2010 12:01:47 +0000
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Yes this is unfortunate and on the contarary I think the marriageable age should be increased for girls of our country. Khap thought process is always Khap thought process and holding back the our country to grow faster.

Well there are fall out of democracy and vote bank.


By Rathin Deb, Freelance Retail Consultant  | 07 03 2010 09:33:43 +0000
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it happens every where , only degree/extent or methods differ... control women, children, any one vulnerable.. but forget thy self.... self control is key...but then  r all obssesed with idea controling other people's life.. such pronouncement r an indication to that..

 

 


By Priya Varadan, Independent consultant, Self employed  | 07 03 2010 09:29:58 +0000
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a good one for debate. The teen age is the prime age where parents can discuss with their siblings about the pros and cons which in turn help them to understand the complex phenomenon. i  for one will recommend the prime age for girls is 21 and for boys is 27.  


By sudhakar , BUSINESS CONSULTANT  | 07 03 2010 09:07:15 +0000
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Not at all, 15years is not the matured age.. The mind set of that age group will not be stable. They easily changes their decisions according to the circumstances. I think that the 15 years is not the correct age for girls to marriage.
By Ugandhar Vellanki, HR Executive, AppShark Software P Ltd  | 07 03 2010 08:35:18 +0000
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What's actually happening here is these guys can't really match up to the power and skill of the 21st century female- independent, working and doing all those things which many men still dream of. Hence, they want to get the girls married at an early age so that the family-in-law cages her from the broad day light.

I would request every person on this planet, and not only Indians, to oppose this plea by some chauvinists. Now, they have asked to reduce marriageable age to 15. Then they will start vouching to reduce it to 5. Then just-born babies. Then they will protest to make female infanticide and foeticide legal. We should oppose from now on itself as these wasted guys have the power to manoeuver the politicians. And the politicians hardly need anything to shift loyalties, at that.


By Tushar Naik, Copywriter, Think Whynot  | 07 03 2010 08:10:47 +0000
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HEY, U KNOW THAT, WE ARE LIVING IN AN INDEPENDENT COUNTRY...

EVERY ONE HAS THIER OWN RIGHTS TOWARDS THEIR MORALE ...SO, WHEN IT COMES TO MARRIAGE, ONE SHOULD HAVE RIGHT TO DECIDE THIER CHOICE BCZ, IT'S A QUESTION OF LIFE....

SOMETHING SHOULD NOT HAMPER WITH SOMETHING ELSE WHICH IS BCZ OF LACK OF KNOWLEDGE ...SINCE WE KNOW THAT, V SHOULD AGAINST THE FACT WHICH IS GOING NOW IN THE SOCIETY, SHOULD COME UP WITH SOMETHINGS ELSE...

BCZ, END OF THE DAY, EVERYTHING WILL BE ALRIGHT, WHEN EACH INDIVIDUAL HAVE SOME KIND OF RESPONSIBILITY AND WE SHOULD ABLE TO PROVIDE ALL INFRASTRUCURE TO EDUCATE THEM AT THE RIGHT AGE AS PER TRENDS...


By Nagraj Shetty, Independent Associate, LEADING MNC  | 07 03 2010 07:45:03 +0000
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15 is too high.5 or 6 is better.Even if they run away parents can easily catch up with them.Khaps can also think about starting cattle pounds where run away kids can be tied up before handing over to parents for a moderate fee.

The govt should make more mental hospitals to accomodate these crazies...otherwise they will keep on working in Khap panchayats.I am ashamed to be born as a Jat because of these people.


By Archana Singh, Relationship Executive, ICICI Bank  | 07 03 2010 07:25:41 +0000
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GOD  !!  WE ARE REALLY GOING BACK TO THE 18TH CENTURY.

 


By Naushad H.L., Creative Director, MAD COMMUNICATION  | 07 03 2010 07:19:48 +0000
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