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Created by : Sonam Kapoor, Software Developer, IBM  | 04 07 2010 07:08:17 +0000
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Education is nothing but giving knowledge to individuals, some grab it quickly some may take more time....Everyone need not have the same Zeal in every subject that is being thought, so, if he or she under-performers in a subject It never means he is DULL. Some authority (today education authorities are not doing it) in India should first make TEACHERS understand this concept. 

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I see lot of schools pushing and punishing students as it matters more to their capabilities and More over Schools like to filter students as it matters more to their reputation (afterall today schooling is business). The first job of teachers is to build confidence in youngsters that they can perform anything under the sun in this world. we need teachers who can build a confident force rather than a repeating Parrot.

In this regard, I would like to ask you all, should passing and failing class exams be abolished?

 
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There should be no examination up to class five.Above this class examinations are must,so is the concept of pass and fail. However, to make things easy for the children,it will be better if the percentage for passing an examination should be lowered from 30 to 20 percent.


By Sonam Kapoor, Software Developer, IBM  04 07 2010 07:12:44 +0000
 
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I don't think abolishing the exams is a pretty good idea. But I can't understand what the hell will the present exams going to make ? India is owns the oldest and richest culture in the world and we should be proud about that. At that time, the students got tested by their Guru to find out which student make progress in his studies. The tests are always a part of their studies and it tests how they apply their knowledge in practical life to find out solution for different problems they may face.

In the present situation students are like book eating worms, swallow the textbook whole and omit it in the answer sheet. Can we call that an education ? I certainly not. There is a chance for a good student perform bad in exams due to personnel problems. Will it make him a bad student or incapable for a promotion for higher level. The problem is in government schools teachers may or may not teach because they didn't mind about the future of student. For the private schools its only a business and spoon feeding is the simplest way to create results and more profit.

What the parents should think is his /her duty doesn't finish when they joined their kid in a well known school. They should be looking after the kid's performance and his knowledge level too.They have equal responsibility that of a teacher in building the next generation Indian. So stop blaming about the exam patterns, syllabus and lowering percentages. Ask your kid what he wanna to be and let give him all the help you can give with an eye on his activities and studies, make sure he is going right to his goal not yours. Then there will be results in the exams.


You can't change the entire system in one day, so try to achieve the goals going through that system with out compromising the thirst for knowledge inside you.


By jinesh vinayachandran, Assosiate Professor, Matha College of Technology  04 07 2010 17:06:41 +0000
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true only quality of brain shell be measured & not of parrot rants
By Ajay Blacksmit, administration, india  | 04 23 2012 10:52:24 +0000
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EXAMS-PASS & FAIL IS A MUST, BUT our educating system and method of examining students in our current system is not enough for assessing how much a student knows and understands conceptually and how much he can apply it practically.
By varunsangani , Freelancer, Freelancer  | 04 22 2012 04:31:27 +0000
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there should be examination but no fail pass only percentile should be decleared and student must be promoted to next standard. As now a days it is done in 10th central board.
By rakeshbhatnagar , GM Projects., wig brothers india pvt.ltd.  | 04 20 2012 09:47:21 +0000
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Yes also the focus should move away from exams to regular projects, case studies, class debates and on field work. Cramming for exams removes the joy from studies and kills deep understanding of the matter.
By Vinoy Scaria James, Tour Consultant., Guiders Mission Tours & Travels  | 04 19 2012 19:23:02 +0000
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examination are only tools to select performing students in stressed situation and rejecting the others on theirs marks scored. it is not the tool for student's or education benefit ,only for those who runs the system (for getting good colleges ,careers etc).examination like IITJEE makes students a computer ,a machine with no intelligence which can process information but can't create a new data on its own.no surprise when indian students score IInd last at PISA (Programme for International Student Assessment) .here at http://www.guardian.co.uk/news/datablog/2010/dec/07/world-education-rankings-maths-science-reading
By sujeet kr, Maintenance Engineer, Bharat institute of aviation  | 04 19 2012 18:40:59 +0000
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our life is based on 1,2,4,10 marks system,,if u get a good marks,HERO,else ZERO..This examination oriented approach to education is a short-sighted shortcut that nullifies the whole point of education. I mean, shouldn’t we be learning about how to practically apply these principles and knowledge to the real world rather than spending all our time ritualistically preparing for examinations? And the reason why “true learning” and “preparing for exams” are not the same is that students can pass the course simply by memorizing the answers to past years’ question papers and/or to that of the list of “important questions” offered by the professors just before the examinations. And this type of “learning” and “understanding” goes away as soon as it comes. In the end, the student would have a degree in hand without really knowing much about their field. I’m not saying that this is how everyone gets their degree but it is a possible way of earning a degree and that means that it is a huge hole in the system. Also, out of personal encounters, I reckon that this is a hole that a great many students exploit without second thought. Also, this way of “learning” turns education into more or less an undesirable chore to the student. It rarely gets seen as an enjoyable, self-driven attempt to widening the horizons of one’s wisdom.
By manish , My a/c is not showing ..help toostep  | 02 15 2011 12:24:29 +0000
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i think it should be always bcoz this is benefical for parents and child both of us.
By Deepak , M.Sc student, Ocean Net Technologies  | 07 26 2010 16:41:18 +0000
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i'm not supporting that the exams need to be abolished fully.the exams can be abolished still some primary level.the exams can't be abolished fully.


By satheesh , M.B.A student, VYSYA College,Salem  | 07 26 2010 12:13:42 +0000
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Passing or failing should not be set at exam level. Let the result simply state what the candidate has achieved. Let the colleges decide what the cut off mark for consideration is.

I also agree that pass or fail should not be based on marks. A student getting below a certain mark level need not be denied the ability to go to the next class. Other options can be allowed him/her. If is consistently a poor performer, then he should be assisted to perform better. Merely failing him/her and throwing them out of school eventually does not solve the need to educate him/her.


By RAMESH KANDADAI, Principal Consultant, ARM Consultants  | 07 26 2010 09:41:05 +0000
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Its necessary to avail the knowledge not just to pass or fail in the exams.But up to primary level it should not be so mandatory.
By Arpit Nigam, B.Tech/B.E. student, Mahakaal Inst. of Technology , Ujjain (M.P.)  | 07 02 2010 12:56:03 +0000
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Failing upto standard 6 shoudl be abolished

 let the knowledge be not just bookish knowledge if the school is giving wokr where the child has to use creative skill or do work in team then it is fine but home work leave child no time to spend with family, friends , they kill the growth of the child


By Nikhil , Senior Manager, Insurance  | 07 02 2010 09:07:48 +0000
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Yes I do because alot of students freak out when they find out there is going to be a huge exam or test (like me) and they end up failing. If there werent tests or exams it would be a whole lot better and students would be nervous thinking their going ot fail.
By ravindra shrivastava, Information Systems(MIS)-Manager, iifs pvt ltd  | 04 10 2010 10:08:21 +0000
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I feel, as the world has changed drastically, one should first standardize HOW the grading or passing and failing is decided. the current education system may be good in evaluating skills, but the focus should be on nurturing the talent and capacity building, and then, terms like passing and failing are meaningless.
By Sabyasachi Dasgupta, Asst. Manager/Manager -(NonTechnical), Chindia Trades Pvt. Ltd.  | 04 09 2010 04:28:06 +0000
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I recommend GRADING because if we are looking at marks and totals each mark differentiates a student from other. Even if there is not much difference in marks scored with this ranking  system makes the student inferior to others. like for example, if the top mark is 46 out of 50, the other person scoring 45 will be 2nd even though there is not much difference, this makes the latter student think he is inferior. So if there is Grading system both would have got same grade.This makes students to think about subject rather than scoring marks.


By L.V.KRISHNA SASANK, B.Tech/B.E. student, Jawaharlal Nehru Technological University (JNTU), Hyderabad  | 04 09 2010 04:10:30 +0000
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Hey Sonam. I think Kapil Sibal thought ahead of you. One of the things his ministry had initiated was CCE, which forbids the school to conduct EXAMS and FAIL a child. Now, I only hope you had not expected the tests to be exams. I think tests would be just fine and I'm sure of finding your agreement on this Sonam. Its just a matter of some time before CCE wold be implemented totally, and yu would be allglad to see your debate coming toa successful end. Thanks for the refer. :)


By Navjeet Sood, Business Head, ADI Media Pvt Ltd  | 04 08 2010 12:11:56 +0000
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Well i believe the concept of pass and fail creates a sense of fear and by no means we have any right to keep a student held back which the concept of fail does. I believe every student enjoys equal right to gain knowledge which abolition of exams would allow only. But this concept should be introduces till 5th standard.


By Abhishek Nag, Business Development Manager, e-Zest Solutions Ltd.  | 04 08 2010 11:12:13 +0000
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You are right Mr. Ali, But I thinks exams should be paperless and second  is I think their is no need of 10'th and 12'th exam when there are entrance exam for almost all further courses like medical,engineering, graduation


By Hemant V. Gore, Freelance Software Developer  | 04 08 2010 03:33:11 +0000
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Mr. Ramesh you are supporting  us , you should post your argument this side.


By Amit Pandey, Embedded Engineer, Electronics  | 04 07 2010 09:29:52 +0000
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Thanks for the referral Ms Sonam,

I think that examination system should be changed. It is not necessary that it should be abolished. A lot of developed countries have weekly/ monthly tests, which evaluate the student’s performance. They give grades and then children are moved to higher level. A system where exams are  completely abolished will create confusion.


By Dr Ali Ahmad, Independent Health Care Consultant, Hospital Management Consultant  | 04 07 2010 09:25:46 +0000
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in india all the exams from kindergarden to professional level is all based on memory. it is only a test of memory. how much a student can cook the subject in the brain and how much it can be reproduced at exam.  Test of memory will never give professionalism and master in the subject.  what it requires is practical exposure. what we study and what we apply at the job is totally different.  The theoretical experience is of no use at job, we all know that.  Hence the professionalism should be build at school level only.  Give weightage to practicality. give more real life problems, and solve it, grade the skill, based on this internal grading pass the student.  thus creativity, confidence enhances and professionalism will be developed.   hence in my view exams of no use should be abolished and practical based grading should be given.


By manikanta raj, Deputy Manager Finance, project financing, leading Financing company  | 04 07 2010 09:08:48 +0000
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Yes , much time of life is wasted in fear of passing exams and  learning  subjects which  we never like , why this nice  idea is   being limited to 5th standard 


By Amit Pandey, Embedded Engineer, Electronics  | 04 07 2010 09:06:46 +0000
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Upto standar 4 it should be abolished post that teh students shoudl be palced in classes as per their gardes, students with low grades in a single class where extra attention can be given than normal ones

 


By Nikhil , Senior Manager, Insurance  | 04 07 2010 07:20:00 +0000
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They should not be abolished but they should be restructured to better help the students succeed. There should also be more thorough tutoring help for students.

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By Business Management Consultant, : I can provide you with Management Consulting & Counseling Services  | 03 22 2013 12:54:55 +0000
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Abolish exams is not a good idea. But yes of course we can change the way of exam taken nowadays.
By MANISHA MANSATA, Software Specialist, eCinicalworks  | 04 22 2012 01:25:32 +0000
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No... its one of the chance to prove himself again...
By aniketskale , Insurance Operations Manager, Reliance Life Insurance  | 04 20 2012 16:47:43 +0000
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Microsoft Certification Examinations has the passing score to 80%. How can you expect to abolish this examination from the grass root level. I'd say the passing score and examinations are real necessity for a student moreover the score must be increased to at least 50% to ensure that the student knows at least half of the subject taught. Please correct me if I am wrong.
By Ardhendu Pal, Technical Support Officer, Convergys India Services  | 04 20 2012 00:20:06 +0000
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i think that exams certainly should not be banned. this is a current argument whether or not to have exams till class eight. to most parents and students it might strike as a wonderful idea that reduces the pressure of the studies this is necessary. but in the long run, it will affect the child. the pressure should be given from the childhood itself. otherwise those children who are relatively behind the others in their studies will face an extremely difficult hurdle when they reach the higher classes. they have to compete with the others, with numerous exams.. after some years they will go out into the world..and being a teenager in class 9 myself i think it is defenitely necessary. otherwise with this sudden pressure outburst in the higher classes the students will lose interest in studies, they will become lethargic, this will hamper their future greatly. ..having no exams will only POSTPONE THE STRESS..AT LAST THEY WILL HAVE TO DEAL WITH IT AT SOME POINT OF THEIR LIVES....a few years of pressure makes no difference when you have a wonderful future in front of you, the result of the hard work.
By Suparna Chattopadhyay, nothing, student  | 12 01 2011 15:11:39 +0000
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schools ,education mafia will be out of business india does not need more unemployment as of now.
By Ajay__Ziz , , jammu university  | 09 19 2011 07:01:47 +0000
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The idea of conducting exams is not bad at all. But then the main motive of conducting the exams should be to be able to make a comprehensive assessment of what the children have understood during the course of their study and HOW WELL THEY ARE ABLE TO PUT IT INTO PRACTICE rather than trying to judge what they do not know.Also having to take exams regularly would help them in being systematic throughout their studies which gradually can become a habit.It helps them to better revise and memorize concepts adding to their knowledge database,do more of research on topics which they do not know more about- making them research oriented and investigative.They also understand the importance of being competitive and well educated in today's world when they see students who do exceedingly well being encouraged and chosen over the others.Also passing and failing exams makes them psychologically better equipped to face the real challenges/successes/failures of life- provided the teachers and parents encourage children who fail to consider every failure as a stepping stone to success and children who succeed to set higher goals and targets for themselves without overburdening them and giving them time for healthy co curricular activities as well.


By Sony G.Tharakan, Human Resource Executive, DCKAP Technologies  | 02 15 2011 11:43:48 +0000
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It's a bad idea, as without written exam or practical exam one can not scale the progress of the student.
By SHRIKANT MANOHAR DANKE, Project Manager, Phadnis Infrastructur Ltd  | 02 15 2011 11:01:34 +0000
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Exams should be there,with different pattern.
By SHRIKANT MANOHAR DANKE, Project Manager, Phadnis Infrastructur Ltd  | 12 02 2010 10:09:56 +0000
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the results of the exams gives the capability of the students. It helps the students to improve themselves
By Lakshmi Sujatha Chekuri, MCA student, DRW PG& Degree college  | 09 10 2010 12:02:35 +0000
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passing n failing is just make the parents that their is up to the mark r not . I t will surely help the students to know where r they


By sai kiran M, VR SIDDARTHA ENGINEERING COLLEGE  | 07 26 2010 09:30:01 +0000
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Yes you are right for those who geniuenly love to study and study too. But for those who come to school just to have fun and consume what not things it isn't. The marking system is helps those study and not just stick to those activities.

The grading helps them atleast keep the minimum required knowledge intact.

Yes for those who study geinuenly and can't grab the content faster and can't perform well in exams then the requiters should see not only to their marks but also see to other requirements and performances.

So, lets not remove the grading system but educate those foolish recuiters who just see the marks.

Regards to readers and coment please.


By Tanka Nath Sharma, Assistant Finance Officer  | 04 09 2010 09:00:29 +0000
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Exams show how well you have mastered the material you are supposed to learn. If we did not have fail/ pass, many students will continue to go on from grade to grade without having even the basic knowledge they need in the world, esp. in math, reading, or language arts. Tests given by the state are used to make sure that each school is really teaching students what the state has set in their standards of education.
By prabin , Product manager, TooStep  | 04 09 2010 08:51:02 +0000
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No because more confusion will be there in college admission on basis of grading system. More so will affect transperency in admission procedures and in Right to information Act.Influential background and bribing will tk place.
By Amitabh , Medical Advisor, Walter Bushnell  | 04 09 2010 04:22:22 +0000
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great debate,

I fully agree with Jinesh. quiting from anything is not a solution. try to rectify the issue if one can.


By Brij Kishor Mishra, Area Manager, Alcon Laboratories India Pvt Ltd  | 04 09 2010 03:40:13 +0000
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It is ok, scrapping the exams in Kinder gardens as NCERT is alraedy implemented if I am right. But in no way it is a good move to completely change the system. For students to be serious in their studies some bench mark to acess thier knowledge is absolutely necessary which only examinations for each standard or course can ensure it. If there is no system to guage the extent of their study in college or school I am sure students wont show any seriousness in study. Thanks sonam for the initiative


By RAHUL SMITH, Freelancer, Radio, TV & Films  | 04 08 2010 15:31:59 +0000
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Sonam

Examination should be there.However ,you rightly pointed out that it can be abolished till a particular class.I really donot understand the logic of removing the concept of examination in senior classes.A person will have to clear the tests before getting into his line of field.Now at that particular time,if you tell him/her to give the test,it would be tough.It is a slow process and giving examination after a particular level makes the person prepare for higher levels.Already there is exam phobia in the minds of so many so, abolishing exams will undoubtedly benefit in the short run but in the long run,it would create more fear in exam.The best thing you can do in the system is that make children aware that exams have to be taken in light spirit.Nothing really changes if you perform bad under pressure.Life and career is so long and everyone gets his or her opportunities.I will give you an example.In my opinion,a person who scores in 70-80% range does well overall as he is spending time on all things but the guy/gal who is getting 95 % is totally in books.This so called average student leads the life more happily and enter the areas of leadership.In general life,if you observe this around you even in corporate life,you will realise this...


By Vikas Bhatnagar, Manager Finance, Tata Motors Ltd  | 04 08 2010 10:43:39 +0000
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Consider a child born to a classical musician/dancer or some other traditional art. They work upon the child to acquire those skills based upon his capabilities as his mentor. They test him with time without fixed year exams and fine tune his skills. The student is turn adopts the skill to become a master for others students.

Passing and Failing exams is a lot of mental trauma for sure. But the bigger question is how will the school take him to study more complex subjects. This is how it should have been started. Mr. Kandadai is right about the system but how can we break it? If you think as a parent, abolishing exams will not be a solution. Test and exams does help in parenting and child growth. Also having said that, present schools/curriculum cater to industrial requirement which consider the child as a human resource in making. They need the resource to grow in phases where tests and exams are quality assurance.

My point here is that, whatever school or education system we have, we need to provide mentors to our child or else become one for him/her. Mentor should help him on test and exams from the point of his career and wholesome life. Abolishing the exams altogether, is as absurd as forcing a child to compete and get close to 100% marks.


By Tanmay Gaur, Freelance Software Developer  | 04 07 2010 18:36:00 +0000
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No, it should not be abolished. We don't have any other system in place which is as competent. We have seen examples of some particular institutions. But they are examples and if applied to the whole of the education system are you sure that they will be able to give better results. Seeing an stand alone example is as good as ideating in your mind about applying it to the whole of the system. If we take that examinations are a waste of time and money than tell me which is a better option. This debate of abolishing examination has been there for quiet a long time. But we have not seen any other system which is as competent till now.


By Aditya Sharma, Insurance Advisor/Analyst, LIC OF INDIA, ICICI LOMBARD  | 04 07 2010 13:51:02 +0000
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Yes they should be abolished.

I have been a visiting faculty in various universities over 20 years and i have seldom seen exam performance represent anything more than the condition of the student's mind at that point in time and a lot of luck! It is a poor way to assess student's competence.

there are better methods such as the ones followed in Aurobindo ashram schools over the years. 

The present system has ruined children's life particularly in the 10th, +1 and +2 years.


By RAMESH KANDADAI, Principal Consultant, ARM Consultants  | 04 07 2010 08:15:06 +0000
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Its so strange to see people blindly following a movement to abolish the exams ,yes i agree our education system needs to be revised,but which system is perfect .

People trying to abolish exams should not forget that it also teaches a child to learn how to overcome and fight hurdles and imparts quality education and understanding too.

What i Beleive it just needs a  better infrastructure and evaluation scheme.


By SAURABH THAKUR, SOFTWARE TEST ENGINEER, QA InfoTech  | 04 07 2010 07:57:45 +0000
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                  It won't be good to abolish pass/fail in exams.First of all, exams helps to understand about bright students and weak students. special care can be given to weak students without hurting them so they can have a bright future. Then there is also a chance that lazy students may misuse abolition of exams and become even lazier


By Aswani.K.M , Software Developer  | 04 07 2010 07:56:31 +0000
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I don't agree. Whatever may be the class, pass or fail  should be existed. However, the way of calculation of pass or fail should be the matter. While making the pass or fail, every aspect has to be considered such as behavior in the class, sports, communication skills, extract or co-curricular activities along with the normal subjects. 


By Kumara Swamy, Project Associate, IIIT-H  | 04 07 2010 07:39:31 +0000
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How can one then gauge and assess that a student is fit enough to be able to handle the next upper level of studies. Exams are a must and the pass or a fail helps a student to know his weakness and strength.On the basis of it enough improvement can be made to study hard and makes oneself good in studies for the future. How can one know without all these about which is the stream that he is strong at to make a career out of it?


By Prasad Rajadhyaksha, Assistant Professor, BIT  | 04 07 2010 07:33:45 +0000
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